Topic: Cheddar steam plant (Read 13477 times)

kno3 · « **on:** October 06, 2008, 07:15:48 pm »

Hello, as discussed in this topic,
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=12832.new;topicseen#new
I'm trying to identify the model of the steam engine from this plant:

bogstandard · « **Reply #1 on:** October 06, 2008, 07:41:18 pm »

That is definitely a Cheddar design, my guess would be the Pipit, with a standard Cheddar lubricator attached.

If you look at the example that Proteus put a picture up of in the other post, you should be able to see it quite clearly.

A picture is worth a lot of words.

John

kno3 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 07, 2008, 10:53:35 pm »

I have gotten a copy of the Cheddar catalogue courtesy of Proteus, and there it was, listed as Pipit. The oiler seems to be an extra, because Cheddar doesn't show it fitted to the plant in the catalogue.
Thanks to everyone for helping!

Bernhard · « **Reply #3 on:** March 29, 2009, 08:27:37 am »

Hi......i have the same Boiler and engine on the road to me,,,,,how long runing time do you have with it,,,you did a reale nice rebuild to it,,,,,,,,,do you have it in a boat now...
Regards Bernhard

kno3 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 29, 2009, 09:17:15 am »

Hi Bernhard, did you buy it on Ebay?

Mine runs for about 15-20 minutes if I remember correctly. The boiler has a small water capacity and the small oscillator can eat up lots of steam if you leave the throttle wide open. It also turns very fast.

My impression about the boiler is that it can produce quite a lot of steam. Maybe coupled with another engine and a water pump it would give longer runs.

Bernhard · « **Reply #5 on:** March 29, 2009, 10:11:20 am »

Hey Thanks. Ebay 157£....ok.......yes i whas thinking the same, to get a smaller enginen.....i will try it in this boat
39.5 cm long...12.5 wide,,,so i think i can fit in there,,,hope so......
or one of the small midwest launch
like this......how much water can it take.........do you have a boat you will use.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1eIB8YV5Zk&feature=related

Regards Bernhard

kno3 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 29, 2009, 10:15:13 am »

Nice boat, the small Cheddar Pipit would fit it well.

Bernhard · « **Reply #7 on:** March 29, 2009, 10:17:17 am »

Thanks..........
or maby one like this,,,,,,
http://uk.geocities.com/rolywilliams/midwest_fantail_launch.html

kno3 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 29, 2009, 10:34:16 am »

I kind of like your wooden rowboat more.

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Since starting this topic I have also painted the Pipit engine. Here some pictures of the process and result.

Bernhard · « **Reply #9 on:** March 29, 2009, 10:57:52 am »

Woww it look real good now,,,great job you have don,,,what boat have you in mind for it,,,,,,,,yes i will paint mine to,,,look a lot better ,,and green is just right to it,,,,,,,,,
maby a enginen like this will be fine for the boiler.....do you think that all this small petit boiler are ready made fore water gauge,,i cant see that the boiler i will get can have it,,,,,,,,,

here is a link to se it working
http://www.hielscher-dampfmodelle.de/cms/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=1&category_id=81&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=38

kno3 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 29, 2009, 11:19:15 am »

To be honest, I find these Hielscher steam engines to be overpriced tin plate toys, and also ugly. Perhaps you could find another one?

Bernhard · « **Reply #11 on:** March 29, 2009, 11:26:56 am »

hi........yes you right ,,,it is to expensive...bot i will look around ...bot fore now i will just use the Cheddar,...maby ,,a smaller piston can be made??........it is 1cm, now i think...

kno3 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 29, 2009, 11:42:10 am »

I don't mean the piston of the Pipit is too big. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I'm just saying that if you allow it to rev up too much, it consumes steam fast.
The engine I have doesn't have an o-ring on the piston, so it doesn't seal perfectly, this also reduces performance.

Bernhard · « **Reply #13 on:** March 29, 2009, 11:50:48 am »

ok,,,,,,,,,,Thanks i understand,,,,,,,,,,,,,bot are they made without oring...

kno3 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 29, 2009, 03:38:31 pm »

Perhaps you could machine a deeper recess in the piston for an o-ring?

logoman · « **Reply #15 on:** March 29, 2009, 09:04:04 pm »

Kno3,
that's a lovely engine and boiler, I had my eye on the one that Bernhard won, great price

the green paint is perfect.

How does it compare in size to the Stuart ST1? it looks similar.

kno3 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 29, 2009, 09:06:49 pm »

Thanks! I like the way it looks too, kind of cute. But I don't know what to do with it...

I haven't seen that Stuart for real, so I can't tell. But judging from the pictures they look very similar.

logoman · « **Reply #17 on:** March 30, 2009, 02:40:57 pm »

how about the Kassner Mini engine? It looks better made than the Heilscher. Still expensive though.

http://www.kassner-dampfantriebe.de/Produkte/Nanus_-Einzelteile/nanus_-einzelteile.html

Bernhard · « **Reply #18 on:** March 30, 2009, 04:14:48 pm »

Hi......Thanks for the link...some nice steam plant there .....yes it look better thas true,,,,,,,

Bernhard

kno3 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 30, 2009, 06:27:22 pm »

Yes, it looks somewhat better than the Hielscher engine, but did you notice the price? For € 272 they didn't even bother to put a normal shaft in...

The boilers are looking very good though and could likely fit a very small boat.

Bernhard · « **Reply #20 on:** April 08, 2009, 12:23:18 pm »

Hi.........Got the Petit,,,,,,,and have be doing some work on it,,,,,,,firedoor,,,wood on,,oiler.water glass,,gas ,,and be ordre a water gauge,,.. ,,,,runing time around 25.--30 minuts,,

regards Bernhard

kno3 · « **Reply #21 on:** April 08, 2009, 08:08:56 pm »

Nice, what kind of burner are you using?

kno3 · « **Reply #22 on:** April 08, 2009, 08:53:15 pm »

I'm asking because the space under the boiler isn't high enough for the ceramic burners available here.

Bernhard · « **Reply #23 on:** April 08, 2009, 09:38:12 pm »

Hi......thanks........i did have one from Maccsteam,,,,,,i did cut down ,,,,,,Bot Mike can make you one in eny size,,,,,,

http://www.maccsteam.com/Burners/Burners.html

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