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Bernhard

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Re: Building a Graham TVR1A engine
« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2008, 06:43:49 pm »

hi.........So is it sun ready fore steam,,,,i have allso o.rings in all  mine,,,,and i have  allways run the enginens in,,,with steam.........never got a problem with that,,,Kno will you paint it,,,did you ordred the hex bolt,,,

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kno3

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« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2008, 07:25:01 pm »

Not sure about painting. Didn't order the hex bolts yet. Might do it next year.
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« Reply #27 on: December 23, 2008, 04:59:39 pm »



 Hi Guys,

 Nice thread this and very nice engine. Has anyone got the link to the Manufacturer?

 I'm new to this side of things and this looks sweet.

 Thanks

 Mark
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Bernhard

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« Reply #28 on: December 23, 2008, 07:49:38 pm »

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Bernhard

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« Reply #29 on: December 25, 2008, 11:09:47 am »

   hey great photos and vidio of the Tvr1A


http://cmnc.hippocampe.free.fr/page.php?lang=FR&id_page=trv1a


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kno3

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Re: Building a Graham TVR1A engine
« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2009, 02:14:56 pm »

Just to have this thread complete, I'm adding the video of the Graham TVR1A running on steam. The boiler is a Cheddar return-flue (old style Puffin) with a Saito pressurized alcohol burner.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv05K6qeTkk

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« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2009, 02:53:09 pm »

There have been a couple of shops selling these engines on ebay. I notice today that Miskin models have just put their price up by £20  :((

I KNEW I should have bought one earlier....what's the phrase, 'he who hesitates is lost'.

Neil
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kno3

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« Reply #32 on: December 18, 2009, 03:15:22 pm »

Well, that happens if you wait too long  ok2

That being said, my impression after building and running it is that the engine is worth every penny. Even if some have commented negatively on the use of aluminium, I have only heard positive comments from people who actually own them.
I have only run mine a couple of times and can't say much about the longevity, but I can say this:
The fit and finish of the parts is outstanding, I didn't have any problem putting the kit together. Following the detailed instructions book made everything clear. The only operation that needs more care, in my opinion, is the mating of the cylinder port faces and slide valves.
After running it in (described previously) it performs very well now: no leaks to speak of, reliable slow speed and impressive high speed and power.

The only drawback I could notice is that the reversing lever, while perfect for manual control, has no provision for connecting a servo. It's not hard to make one yourself but it would have been nice to have it included in the kit, because I think that most people who buy this engine want to use it in an r/c model.

With the Graham TVR1A one gets a a complex and well-performing engine for a price that would buy you only a simple twin oscillator from other manufacturers. Now if this sounds like an advertisement for Graham, let me state that I don't know the manufacturer and have no connection with him, other than buying his product. And I'm really happy with it.


By the way, if I were to put another TVR1A kit together now, I wouldn't use the supplied gaskets (which are fine, by the way), only some high-temperature sealing paste. To this end I have used Hylomar (on other engines) and it allows perfectly tight seals even when mating isn't perfect. With paper gaskets the job isn't that easy.
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Re: Building a Graham TVR1A engine
« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2009, 03:31:49 pm »

direct as of ten min ago they where $245  =£151 so postage is not that dear.Go direct

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« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2009, 03:40:06 pm »

I have been sitting on the side lines regarding this engine, but recently found out that Cheddar Models were agents before they closed. That means the engine has been in production at least four or five years, I think if there were any fundamental problems, they would have come to the surface by now.

I must confess the reversing lever and the lack of a throttle valve are two areas I have considered, as modifying one and making the other add extra cost to the engine, as does the addition of a lubricator. All of that said, it is still a very inexpensive set up.

I'll keep watching prices, as I have no immediate need for another engine.

I would like to see more videos of TVR1A's actually installed in models AND working.

Peter don't forget the flywheel, postage and VAT.

Engine $245 = £153
Fly wheel $20 = £12.50
Postage estimate $20 = 12.50
VAT @ 15% = £26.70
Post office handling = £8
Total =212.70

Made £215 post free from Wales look pretty good  >>:-(

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« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2009, 03:56:11 pm »

over the last 4 or 5 years I have bought lots from the states only last week spent a good few hundred pounds as well as the normal China stuff and have NEVER paid VAT or been asked for it, the postage is £12.50 so that is still nearly £90 cheaper the flywheel is with this one if you give me the shaft size ill make you one for postage, it's a bit like some cheddar engines it does not really need one. I know what I would do,

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« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2009, 04:14:51 pm »

Well, I could be persuaded.

You have been incredibly lucky with VAT. I bring a lot of archery equipment in from the US, and even little things like fibre optics I always seem to get caught for VAT, and if there is a VAT charge, then the Post Office charge for the paperwork that goes with it.

Like I said, I need another engine like I need flu, but the TVR1A is a fascinating little machine.

Neil
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« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2009, 09:54:19 am »

Robert Graham has been making these engines for quite a few years, I have seen an add in a Model Steam magazine from the very early 90's. It is a small sideline business as he has a regular job too. He makes nothing except the engines. I have always thought they were good value so over the last few months (since being made redundant) I have imported a few and sold them on and everyone that has one is happy with it. I am currently running a single version which I assembled without gaskets and with only minimal lapping. It runs really well, no leaks and it will go down to very slow revs. I use a Bruce Engineering throttle valve (wish I could still get the ACS ones though) and a lubricator from P & M in the States as they are a fraction of the price of any made in the UK and nice looking units. The single is in a 36" river launch, originally electric, from an old Model Boats plan called Ritalea and it pushes that with a 2 & 1/2" prop really well. I think anybody with basic mechanical knowledge could assemble one of these and be relly proud of the result. Cheers, Ian.
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Re: Building a Graham TVR1A engine
« Reply #38 on: December 19, 2009, 12:56:40 pm »

Re the R/C-able valve Kno3, most of the kits sold in the country of origin to the home market are likely to be destined to be "Bling Queens" connected to a compressed air supply so it's easy to play with the control while the engine is fastened to a polished wooden block. It's only us mad Europeans that connect them to kettles in wooden troughs and play with them at a distance. O0  :-))

   Regards   Ian
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« Reply #39 on: December 19, 2009, 06:31:27 pm »

Great thread, can't wait to get mine, only have to wait till Friday now!!!
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« Reply #40 on: December 25, 2009, 06:14:14 pm »

Put one on my Christmas list with nil expectation underneath the socks and hankies - opened an envelope on the Christmas tree - printout of despatch note from Graham Industries - SWMBO and eldest daughter have got me one!!!! Wow. Now I'll have to save up and contact Mr Maccsteam. A happy (whats left of) Christmas and New Year to all mayhemmers.
 
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Bernhard

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« Reply #41 on: December 26, 2009, 10:28:13 am »

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1082073

LOOK WHAT HE HAVE DON,, WITH A GRAHAM.....with waterpump on,,,,,,,reale a well don launch to......take your time to go over the photos,,,,,,,,,,

Regards Bernhard
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« Reply #42 on: December 26, 2009, 07:17:32 pm »

Can anyone tell me the size adapter required for the prop coupling on a TRV1A.

Will post pics of mine here, now its built.
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3755.0
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Re: Building a Graham TVR1A engine
« Reply #43 on: December 26, 2009, 07:34:49 pm »

I think they are 3/16"  they are on the the plan as 0.188.


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kno3

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« Reply #44 on: December 26, 2009, 10:13:45 pm »

Can anyone tell me the size adapter required for the prop coupling on a TRV1A.

Will post pics of mine here, now its built.
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3755.0


4 mm couplings fit it too.
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« Reply #45 on: January 06, 2010, 05:58:56 pm »

HELP TRV1A doing my head in. Cannot get the timing sorted, have followed the book to the letter, stripped vavle gear, re set every thing , tried setting it 180 degrees removed, still no luck, any pointers anybody.
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kno3

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« Reply #46 on: January 07, 2010, 01:47:03 pm »

I answered on your other thread...
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« Reply #47 on: January 07, 2010, 02:04:51 pm »

I answered on your other thread...

Maybe the mod's could merge the threads (or whatever the technical term is)

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kno3

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« Reply #48 on: January 30, 2010, 01:00:33 pm »

Hi!

I have changed the stock cylinder covers with custom ones which a friends turned for me, with half-domes on them. Also received the hex bolt kit which I will add over time.




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Bernhard

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« Reply #49 on: January 30, 2010, 01:37:07 pm »

hey That look real great....................tip top........and with hex bolt now....

Regards Bernhard
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