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MCR

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Borderer
« on: February 28, 2009, 10:24:00 pm »

So far so good
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kno3

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Re: Borderer
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2009, 10:33:09 pm »

Looking good. But do you have clearer pictures?
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MCR

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Re: Borderer
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2009, 10:47:26 pm »

Hope this is a bit better ,made from stock material using mini lathe.
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Bunkerbarge

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Re: Borderer
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2009, 10:49:49 pm »

A very nice job there MCR.  Lovely bit of machining.  Justv shows what you can do with a bit of thought and a small lathe.
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MCR

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Re: Borderer
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2009, 11:04:21 pm »

I have never made much  more than a pulley wheel before but with help from a club mate I have dramatically increased my engineering  understanding and a tutorial each week has allowed me to make steady if at times painful progress.
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logoman

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Re: Borderer
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2009, 11:43:26 pm »

That is fantastic! well done, I'm really envious. :o
I would love a Borderer, but I'm so far from being able to make one.
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MCR

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Re: Borderer
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2009, 11:55:30 pm »

I would not be so sure.
I have approached each part as a project in its own right the result is that I can now see the light at the end of the tunnel.
 Started the project about May last year.

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bogstandard

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Re: Borderer
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2009, 01:42:27 am »

Very well done MCR, a real credit to your abilities.

You are also doing it the correct way, concentrating on making one good part at a time, that way you don't get overwhelmed by the complexity of the whole.
 :-))

John
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Roger in France

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Re: Borderer
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2009, 06:13:58 am »

Well done MCR you have done something I planned to do 40 years ago but have still not started!

Roger in France
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Bernhard

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Re: Borderer
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2009, 08:21:18 am »

great,,wery nice  it is,,........,,,,,,,,,,make a video on your tube when it ready to run,,,,,,,,,,,,,



Bernhard
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kno3

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Re: Borderer
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2009, 09:49:56 am »

Hope this is a bit better ,made from stock material using mini lathe.

This shows it much better. I like the classic marine engine look.
Is it just the tricky perspective that makes it look like a compound engine or does it really have different sized cylinders?

What plan did you use?
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wideawake

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Re: Borderer
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2009, 11:25:02 am »

What plan did you use?

I assume that MCR got the plans directly or indirectly from AJ Reeves Engineering.

https://vault1.secured-url.com/reeves2000/shop_item.asp?sub_cat_id=163

The engine was originally described in Model Engineer a good few years ago and is a design by John Bertinat.   Reeves carry plans and a set of castings for the engine and water pump, though as MCR has shown, it can be built from stock very well.    A bit later Bertinat described (again in ME) a smaller version off the engine called Marcher There's a link between the names, the Marches is the name given to the Border area between England and Wales.

I have a Marcher part finished but have b********d the main cylinder block.   The steam passages and porting on the smaller engine are tiny and defeated my abilities a couple of years ago.  I ran a 1/16th drill through the side of the block while drilling a steam way.   Given the cost of a replacement casting, I might well try machining one up from a block of gunmetal now that I've just got my ME workshop set up again.

Cheers

Guy

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Ian Robins

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Re: Borderer
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2009, 12:45:28 pm »

Hi,
 cant you solder a piece of bar in the hole or tap it and fit a screw and file the screwhead flush

ro88o
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Bernhard

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Re: Borderer
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2009, 01:03:27 pm »

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wideawake

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Re: Borderer
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2009, 01:16:10 pm »

Hi,
 cant you solder a piece of bar in the hole or tap it and fit a screw and file the screwhead flush

ro88o

Sadly no.  I've done that before when i've made a mistake but on this occasion I made a real mess.   I needed to drill 2 x 1/16th angled steam passages from the cylinder tops down to the inlet ports.  I managed to drill through the port and out of the steam chest face.  Not recoverable I'm afraid.
Basic lesson in checking the set up and then checking it several times more before starting the drill  :((

Cheers

Guy
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MCR

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Re: Borderer
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2009, 02:36:45 pm »

Looking for a project on which to learn basic engineering my mentor suggested the borderer using the article mentioned earlier.
He has finished his engine which he built one step ahead of me instructing as he went along. He has run it on compressed air at the club everybody was very impressed.
Its not a compound ,twin cylinder double slide valve.
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MCR

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Re: Borderer
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2009, 05:05:04 pm »

This should give some idea of scale
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ian kennedy

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Re: Borderer
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2009, 06:50:08 pm »

Hi MCR,

Very nice engine indeed, I knew action mans eagle eyes and gripping hands would come in usefull some time {-)

What boiler are you using to provide steam to this engine?

Cheers

Ian
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MCR

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Re: Borderer
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2009, 07:40:44 pm »

This is a boiler I purchased on Ebay at a rather good price (better than the cost of the raw material,have you seen the price of copper?).
Its a triple pass scotch marine boiler I believe.
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logoman

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Re: Borderer
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2009, 04:15:04 pm »

that's a beast of a boiler, you're going to have one gem of a steam plant when all done. looking forward to following the build.
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MCR

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Re: Borderer
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2009, 10:39:47 pm »

Almost finished pleased with the progress I am starting to forget all the head scratching bad temper and the overflowing swear box!
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MCR

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Re: Borderer
« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2009, 12:27:41 pm »

Oh joy of joys she lives she lives. After a couple of frustrating days setting up the timing I could not resist and had to try air through the engine.
Without any seals and with air coming out all over the place  (only had two screws in the cylinder covers I did say I could not wait) I linked it up to the compresser.Would it or wouldn't it ? With air blowing everywhere it twitched then sprang into life.Throwing the linkage over the engine stopped then changed direction.
I don't think I have ever smiled so much.
Now on to the boat!
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logoman

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Re: Borderer
« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2009, 03:52:07 pm »

CONGRATULATIONS! :-))

the feeling must be amazing, llike giving life to something.
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MCR

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Re: Borderer
« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2009, 04:11:53 pm »

If you look at the thread on copper nails you will see Wide a Wake a model owned by Guy. I have made a start ,the keel is complete and the hull shadows and jig constructed. By the way did I tell everybody it RUNS IT RUNS.
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MCR

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Re: Borderer
« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2009, 10:41:42 pm »

Hope this works:
http://s734.photobucket.com/albums/ww346/phosphatetangjade/Fishing boat/Steam/?action=view&current=Videoborderer.flv
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