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The birth of the Cirrus V-Twin
« on: April 27, 2010, 04:07:15 am »

Hi Everyone,

So I'm starting a new build thread to share with you a behind the scenes look at the production run of a new engine we developed some time ago called the Cirrus V-Twin. I thought some of you might be interested in seeing a new engine build from start to finish, so here it goes. I will up date this thread with new pictures and hopefully some machining videos as time permits me to do so.

I should start out by saying that I have already prototyped this engine sometime ago and this build will be covering the production run of the parts for the final design. I don't want to post any pictures of the finished prototype because I feel that would defeat my purpose of sharing this build with all of you.

Build log as follows:

Well after three 14 hour days of messing with the setup on one of the CNC milling machine's and only after many countless program edits, the body count is 4 broken taps, 2 busted end mill cutters and one completely destroyed part which was grabbed by a end mill cutter and ripped out of the second vise destroying the fixture it was in, then winged at light speed into the inner wall of the mill's sheet metal enclosure. Needless to say the part died on impact. The good news is the machine is finally dialed in and making perfect parts now. Man, the things I go through in the name of steam.  %)

So here you go, one of the first perfect parts.

Nick
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benjaml1

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Re: The birth of the Cirrus V-Twin
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2010, 07:49:20 am »

Looks lovely...  :-))

I always wondered about a program/s that "plugs in" from CAD direct to CNC & if one were available....
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Bunkerbarge

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Re: The birth of the Cirrus V-Twin
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2010, 08:52:23 am »

Beautiful Nick.  Most of it is obvious and I'm particularly interested in seeing how the control valve goes together but what is the additional hole for alongside the crankshaft bore?
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Re: The birth of the Cirrus V-Twin
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2010, 09:40:52 am »

I see that Nick still has permission to photograph & post his truly brilliant quality components on the Rose Wood lounge room cabinet table top  O0 {-) ...Derek
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Re: The birth of the Cirrus V-Twin
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2010, 10:38:00 am »

Well, the front view has certainly killed any fear of a one off casual copy Nick. What caused the crash??

  Regards  Ian.
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Re: The birth of the Cirrus V-Twin
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2010, 03:49:31 pm »

Thats really nice, would like to see more of it. Oh, that bit of engine's not bad either :-))

Ian
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Re: The birth of the Cirrus V-Twin
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2010, 04:43:30 pm »

Thanks guys,

Hi Benjaml1,

There are many Cam software's available which will work with CAD designed parts. I've used some of the best ones on market but I still prefer to wrote all my own programs by hand, line by line. This way I know exactly what to expect when the machine is running. This part so far took over 60 pages of code. I also write all the code by hand for our 8 axis machines.

Hi Richard,

Great question but I don't want to ruin the surprise.  O0

Hi Derek,

The Misses wasn't around when the photo was taken.  %)

Hi Circlip,

The crash was caused during a facing operation. I'm running two vises in the machine currently. In the first vise (LH side) I machine almost everything you see in the rear photo including the profile. When this operation is done the part still has about an 1/8" of material attached to it which was being held in the vise. The part then gets flipped over and laid face down in the second vise (RH side) and the excess material is faced off and all the other work is then preformed on that side. So I'm basically machining both part simultaneously.

The parts start out as 1/2" thick, 2" wide by 3" long blocks of brass. When the crash occurred it was during the facing operation in the second RH vise. I was taking multiple light surface cuts to remove the excess material. When there was about a 1/16" material left to remove it the over hanging material would peal itself up into the cutter causing a snag. I now just take almost the full 1/8" depth surface cut in one zigzag back and forth pass. Then I take the last final light surfacing cut.
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kno3

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Re: The birth of the Cirrus V-Twin
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2010, 07:57:47 pm »

Very nice Nick, I'm glad you decided to post pictures of all manufacturing steps.
Could you share the dimensions and weight of the finished engine?
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benjaml1

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Re: The birth of the Cirrus V-Twin
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2010, 09:21:54 pm »

And the program pleaassse...  :}
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Re: The birth of the Cirrus V-Twin
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2010, 10:01:03 pm »

And a free sample for independent unbiased review!  :} :} %)
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Re: The birth of the Cirrus V-Twin
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2010, 08:04:26 am »

Hopefully that's the only one Nick. Interesting to note though that despite the capabilities of CNC, the perenial problem of effective workholding always rears its head.

  Best regards  Ian.
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Re: The birth of the Cirrus V-Twin
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2010, 04:00:22 am »

Now that the Milling machine that is producing the Engine frames is dialed in and can be left to do it's thing, I had some time both yesterday and today to focus on getting another one of our CNC machines up and running.
 
For today's menu we are serving Bronze Cylinders.  O0

The cylinders have been another one of those tricky time consuming parts to get set up properly on the 8 axis machine.  >>:-(  Although they may look some what simple it takes a lot of machining to get what you see here from a solid piece of bronze billet. The cylinders are designed to allow both the upper and lower cylinder covers to be threaded into the part. There is a small stepped recessed area at both the top and bottom of the cylinder's open ends to accept an o-ring to ensure a steam tight seal once the cylinder covers are threaded into the cylinder. I chose to use threaded in cylinder covers because it allows for quick and easy servicing to be preformed to the piston o-rings if ever needed. Most similarly designed small engines I've seen over the years with small sized cylinders have almost always had press fitted cylinders covers which makes it almost impossible to ever remove them to service the piston's o-rings. I chose to sand blast the exterior surfaces with a fine media to give the cylinders a scale casting look. Plus there's already going to be so much shiny stuff on this engine as it all comes together, I think that having a different texture on the cylinders will give a nice contrast.
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Re: The birth of the Cirrus V-Twin
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2010, 07:24:32 am »

Nick know How   :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))

Regards <<Bernhard
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Re: The birth of the Cirrus V-Twin
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2010, 07:48:35 am »

Threaded both ends is an excellent arrangement and allows a neater finished shape than a bolted cover without the limitations of a pressed cover.

I do like the look of the blasted finish however it may prove difficult to keep clean.
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kno3

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Re: The birth of the Cirrus V-Twin
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2010, 10:48:48 am »

Looking good, I hope the covers are going to be slightls larger in diameter to give a scale look to the cylinder.
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benjaml1

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Re: The birth of the Cirrus V-Twin
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2010, 02:03:00 pm »

Lovely...  :-))
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MONAHAN STEAM MODELS

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Re: The birth of the Cirrus V-Twin
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2010, 06:59:08 am »

Thanks everyone for you thoughtful comments.

It's about time for a progress update isn't it?  %) I can't let you all to think that I've been just kicking back with my feet up on the desk or something like that.  {-)

So the first order of business since the last build update was to drill and tap the bottom of the engine frame to accept the engine's base plate. Then it was on to milling out the engine base plate itself. Another simple but yet critical part that needed to be made was the brass crankshaft bearing support tube. Once this part was made it was then pressed into the engine frame. The crankshaft is supported by two stainless steel sealed ball bearing which get press fitted into either end of the bearing support tube.

Now that the bronze cylinders have been made it was time to make the upper and lower cylinder covers. The upper (or top) cylinder cover is turned and milled from brass while the lower cylinder cover is made from bearing bronze since the piston rod will be passing through it. The lower cylinder cover is bored and tapped to accept a o-ring gland seal and a adjustable gland nut which will be made at a later date. Both the upper and lower cylinder covers thread into the cylinder and in the photos you'll notice the o-ring seal which keeps them steam tight. I've rubbed steam oil onto the sand blasted surfaces of the bronze cylinders and then wiped away the excess with a clean towel. I've found that this improves the look while preventing finger prints showing up on the surfaces.  

The next interesting and somewhat tricky part that needed to be made was the brass manifold cover which bolts to the front of the engine frame thus sealing off the internal steam passages ways. I've dubbed this part the brass bat wing. I like to think that Batman would be flattered.

You can't have a manifold cover without a proper throttle valve/direction valve so that was the next part to be made. I also decided it was a good time to make the intake and exhaust manifold extension which thread into the rear of the main engine frame. So by this point I started getting impatient as always and decided to go ahead and paint the engine frame to see what it was going to look like since the prototype version of this engine I made earlier was never painted. After painting it I of course accidentally put a few small chips in the paint shortly afterward.  >>:-(

The two ridiculously long bolts holding the cylinders in place are only temporary until I get around to making the real trunnion shafts.

The engine is really starting to take shape now but there is still a ton of other parts that need to be made still to before I can even come close to calling this project done. Hope you enjoy the progress photos.
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Re: The birth of the Cirrus V-Twin
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2010, 06:17:00 pm »

I should add that I'm not completely sure what the final retail cost will be yet. This can only be completely nailed down once we have added up all the time it takes to make each part and assemble an engine. Our target retail price for the completed ready to run engine including the oil lubricator which we are trying desperately not to exceed is $499.00USD. If anything we would like to offer it for an even lower price than that. However, this is the same price simpler, less complicated V-Twin oscillators retailed for 8 years ago. Currently with no real great number of choices available to steam enthusiasts who would like a small light weight high quality steam engine for smaller boats we have decided to produce this engine. The whole complete ready to run steam plant will be under $1000. This is the boiler which will be included with the complete steam plant: http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=23128.0
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Re: The birth of the Cirrus V-Twin
« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2010, 06:23:34 pm »

Great one,,,,, :-)) :-)) :-))........Will there be a waterpump to it,,,and a gastank..

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MONAHAN STEAM MODELS

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Re: The birth of the Cirrus V-Twin
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2010, 06:29:04 pm »

Thanks Bernhard,

Great question, yes there will be an optional water pump and a optional mini refillable fuel tank for this steam plant but those will be add-on items since not everyone will need them. The price for these items will be very reasonable too.
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kno3

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Re: The birth of the Cirrus V-Twin
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2010, 06:38:17 pm »

Hi Nick, are you going to use banjo fittings for the exhaust and steam intake? The screws look that way. Anyway, banjo fittings restrict the steam flow, normal pipe unions might be better in this case.
Too bad you didn't make the cylinder covers a bit wider...
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MONAHAN STEAM MODELS

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Re: The birth of the Cirrus V-Twin
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2010, 06:59:15 pm »

Hi Nick, are you going to use banjo fittings for the exhaust and steam intake? The screws look that way. Anyway, banjo fittings restrict the steam flow, normal pipe unions might be better in this case.
Too bad you didn't make the cylinder covers a bit wider...


I'm still scratching my head as to why I would have made the cylinder covers a bit wider? Every single full size steam engine we have owned or worked on over the years has always had the same diameter cylinder covers as the cylinder blocks themselves. Are you thinking for wood lagging? It's true that banjo fittings can restrict flow but the fittings that I've made in the pictures flow adequate for this sized engine otherwise I would not have used them and taken the much simpler route of normal tube unions.
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Re: The birth of the Cirrus V-Twin
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2010, 07:17:57 pm »

To look more like the flanged ends of full size cylinders, that was the idea.
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Re: The birth of the Cirrus V-Twin
« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2010, 07:28:21 pm »

Okay that makes sense now. :-))

 However usually the flanges on a full sized cylinder block are the same diameter of the cylinder covers. What gives a full sized cylinder block the appearance of flanges is the recessed area in between either end of the cylinder. On full sized cylinders this recessed area cuts weight or the mass of the casting itself and it's typically filled with insulation or lagging of some sorts. Although it seems that almost every steam cylinder block has these recessed areas or flanges, I can tell you from first hand experience that a number of the cylinders on our full sized equipment do not, nor do they have lagging wrapped around them. I'll try to take some photos of this maybe tomorrow when I'm at the other shop where we keep our big steam toys at.
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Re: The birth of the Cirrus V-Twin
« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2010, 07:30:39 pm »

Sure, please do. I know cylinders can be made in almost any shape and size (I've even seen curved ones, and working, honest!).
It's just that flanged-ended ones look (to me at least) particularly nice.
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