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[Peter Fitness]

Hungarian modeller, Laszlo Winkler, is also building a model of the Armidale Class. He contacted me for any information I could give, which I was happy to do.

He has sent me some photos of his model under construction, and given me permission to post them on the forum. He also included 2 photos of his model of a Fremantle Class patrol boat, predecessor to the Armidales in the Royal Australian Navy. His model depicts HMAS Gawler, and I'm sure you will agree that he has done a wonderful job 

Peter.

[Shipmate60]

Peter,
Was the Freemantle class the AJP kit?

Bob

[Peter Fitness]

Bob, as far as I'm aware, the Fremantle is scratch built by Laszlo.

Peter.

[spenyo]

Hi for All here,

We build everything on Fremantle and any other boat too. The hull and the deck made of resin-fieberglass, the cabins part is made of styrol, the smal parts made of alu, copper, wood or any other material.
The boats hull's core made of wood - you can see this the Armidale's on pictures - after this we make a template - this will be the next step - and get out hulls from this template. In fact 3 hull - and hope 3 boats -  will be built in Budapest - this is the plan at this moment . The pictures come soon.

Laszlo

[spenyo]

Hi,

Here are some new pictures about the core .....
It looks like a boat.

Laszlo

[spenyo]

Hi for All,

Here are two new pitures about "hungarian" Armidale. We just now finished the half part of the temlate. Yoou can see that ....

Laszlo

[spenyo]

Hi,

We have finished he first "Hungarian" Armidale hull.
Here are some pictures about template and the finished hull.

Laszlo

[spenyo]

Some pictures again ....
The fleet are being built.

[Peter Fitness]

They are looking good, Laszlo  . You are going to have a whole flotilla of the Armidale class They should look good together on the water when they are all finished.

Peter.

[Hilux5972]

Will one of those be the HMAS Hammersley?

[Peter Fitness]

Will one of those be the HMAS Hammersley?

I resisted the temptation to call my Armidale class Hammersley, as it only exists in the TV show, "Sea Patrol". Instead  called her HMAS Bundaberg, which does exist, mainly because of family connections to the city of Bundaberg.

Peter.

[sjbatche]

Laszlo

Great work on the hulls that you have produced. I am looking forward to seeing your progress in the coming months.

I think the Armidales are a great looking ship and it seems that they are starting to become more popular as models. I have been running a 1/72nd scale Armidale for a couple of years now and I am currently building four others in various scales one of which is in 1/50th scale similar to your models.

Steve.

[spenyo]

Hi All,

Peter, can you tell me your propellers diameter cause we have no agrement for 35mm or 40mm propellers will be the best for the 1/50 Armidale ... ?
Today was the my club's last action this year. Here are some pictures about it .....

Laszlo

[bassplayer1]

You're very good my friend! I really enjoyed the photos with the molding busines!!!

[Peter Fitness]

Peter, can you tell me your propellers diameter cause we have no agrement for 35mm or 40mm propellers will be the best for the 1/50 Armidale ... ?

Laszlo, the propellers on my 1/50 Armidale are 30mm 5 blade props from George Sitek, his web site is here http://www.gsitek-props.co.uk/products.asp?cat=13 They give a very realistic speed.

Peter.

[spenyo]

Hi Peter,

Thanks for the info.
We are thinking about this : http://www.hobby-lobby-modellbau.com/onlineshop/product_info.php/info/p2877_5-Blade-Propeller-35-mm-M4-right----168-13.html with graupner 500 motors and a raboesch bow-thrushter : http://www.hobby-lobby-modellbau.com/onlineshop/product_info.php/info/p2422_RABOESCH-Bow-Thruster-G2-19-mm----108-02.html

Laszlo

[Peter Fitness]

Laszlo, those props look great, and the bow thruster is the same as the one I used.

Peter.

[RaaArtyGunner]

Peter,

I take it that the props in photo are inwards rotating, that is they both turn towards the keel.

[Peter Fitness]

I take it that the props in photo are inwards rotating, that is they both turn towards the keel.

Yes, they do

Peter.

[RaaArtyGunner]

Thanks.

[brianB6]

Pardon my 'higerance' but why do they need to be inward turning?

[Peter Fitness]

Pardon my 'higerance' but why do they need to be inward turning?

It makes for more precise steering. If both props rotate in the same direction the boat tends to steer favouring one side. This is also more pronounced when going astern.

Peter.

[brianB6]

Thanks for that Peter, it makes sense.
Is there any reason for both turning inward towards the keel at the top (as yours appear to do) or to the bottom?
I can only think that turning inward towards the keel at the top might combine the washes better and give more speed.

[Tug-Kenny RIP]

It directs the water flow into the rudder area from low down, which then rises up through the blade and gives better steering performance.  If the water was pushed out above the blade it would go over the top with the wash and steering would be weaker.

Hope this helps

ken

[brianB6]

Hi Ken
It's an interesting thought, but if Peters props are turning in towards the keel then would not the water be moving down the rudder shaft?
I suppose it might depend on how far the rudders are from the props and their pitch as to which way the water moves.   Also how close the props and rudders are to the hull.
It might be worth experimenting with.   Change motor direction and props over to see which combination gives the best steering and / or speed.
Regards
Brian B6