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KBIO

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STUART Guernesey.
« on: October 08, 2011, 05:54:58 pm »

Good evening!
Has anybody heard that STUART is shuting down???
Or is it a bad joke???
Cheers!
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america12mj

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Re: STUART Guernesey.
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2011, 06:17:40 pm »

it's always Nessy :embarrassed: :embarrassed: :D
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Re: STUART Guernesey.
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2011, 08:12:39 pm »

it's always Nessy :embarrassed: :embarrassed: :D

sorry don't understand ?

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Re: STUART Guernesey.
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2011, 09:11:03 pm »

neither did I....just put it down to humour I didn't understand,...... %% %% %% %% {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
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Re: STUART Guernesey.
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2011, 09:58:44 pm »

I also read in Model Boats that Myford (lathes) are in trouble...
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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2011, 10:21:55 pm »

Re Myford Lathes. Sadly yet another case of a good product, but undercut by cheaper Chinese etc, imports sadly to many people wont spend the extra to buy British.Then moan that theres no jobs. Im not sure what the answer is. Who remembers the im backing Britain campain? John.   
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Re: STUART Guernesey.
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2011, 10:58:27 pm »

Myford have closed down been sold off and will soon be re made in the uk (they say)  by RDG TOOLS  http://www.myford.co.uk/  It did have to happen just as I bought one

Peter
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Re: STUART Guernesey.
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2011, 11:25:23 pm »

i guy's
when i say "it's always Nessy ",
i think about the Loch'ness monster , who the username is Nessy!!!  %% so sorry for this bad joke, it's a french joke <*< <*< <*<
regards
good nignt!

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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2011, 11:42:46 pm »

pascal ...French jokes are not funny :embarrassed: ......   garlic snails?......... >>:-(

But is OK as you are a colleague of KBIO ....& he is a good Model Mayhem member   %)

By the way .... KBIO had previously posted a link to some images of your vessel & engine build.......

Excellent work  :-)) ...........we hope you enjoy Mayhem & please post more steam images.........Derek
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Re: STUART Guernesey.
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2011, 11:54:14 pm »

Myford have closed down been sold off and will soon be re made in the uk (they say)  by RDG TOOLS  http://www.myford.co.uk/  It did have to happen just as I bought one

Peter

you won't need spares for years Peter...bought mine ( an ML7) donkey's years ago, abused and misused before I got it, and it still gives me faithfull service.

doubt whether a chinese one will ever last as long.
It cost me more, 20 years ago than a chinese one would today....and I'd spend it all again just for the sheer pleasure of a robust and superb machine.

neil.
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Re: STUART Guernesey.
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2011, 12:13:41 am »

I was lucky to buy an unused ML10, still in factory grease with a lot of spare parts Chucks etc I have always fancied the ML10 don't know why everyone says the 7s are better and they probably are but this is came along , the only thing I have done is change the motor to 3 phase and get an inverter. I managed to buy all the bits I wanted before they closed (Just) proper risers with the motor Mount combined and a dog clutch . I think ill be happy, It's ironical that RDG have been undercutting Myford for years bringing in coppied parts then they buy the remains of Myford.

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Re: STUART Guernesey.
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2011, 12:06:25 pm »

Myford has suffered from the mentality that many fine British manufacturing institutions have; that quality will always be held preferable over cheap, however what they didn't bank on was that the far eastern imports may one day match the quality of their own products- you name it cars, motorbikes, electronics etc etc etc.

Instead of our manufacturers demanding subsidies from the government (as Germany does, as well as paying qualified engineers a wage that compares to high level professionals over here and demands that companies invest in training the next generation) they have had to keep putting their prices up- brought into a starker relief as raw materials prices ramp up as the far eastern manufacturers are buying in such massive bulk that supply to EU becomes ever more costly! So while China throws out cheaper and ever better products, UK produces more expensive machines of the same fantastic quality.

Over the last couple of years Myford has brought in the accountants to sort out their business, and this was evident as the mainstay of the business stopped being the supply of new machines and instead became the re-supply of factory re-con'ed machines, as well as introducing a credit account for potential customers offering the option of paying over a period of months for that dream lathe.

That said, and I am sorry to say it, I bought a Chinese SIEG C3 lathe from Axminster, and have to say that with some attention to the slideways, DRO's and general fettling the lathe is a quality little machine, ok so that would have been abhorant to Myford engineers who prided themselves on the production of .0001 accurate bedways and slideways, but I didn't have to pay for quality, I just had to put a bit of time into the lathe to get it right before attempting to do accurate work on it, the actual construction of the lathe really isn't that bad, newer machines in the last 5-6 years showing more and more European quality in their construction.

I am not at all sorry that I bought the Chinese machine, what I am sorry about is that I simply couldn't afford a Myford...

My next decision is what milling machine to get- I would love to be able to get a Tom Senior Universal, but even well used secoind hand are way more expensive than the equally capacious Chinese models....!

Greg
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america12mj

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Re: STUART Guernesey.
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2011, 12:15:41 pm »

hello guy's
and about the first question off KBIO
what happens about stuart,
that is the end or not!! <:( {:-{

have a good sunday
, in france it's raining again
regards
pascal
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KBIO

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Re: STUART Guernesey.
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2011, 06:43:06 pm »

Hello!
I shall call tomorow and I'll let you know! ok2
Regards!
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KBIO

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Re: STUART Guernesey.
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2011, 09:16:26 am »

Good morning! :-)
I had Roy from Stuart on the phone this morning, and he informs me( & you)  that Stuart is for sales.
It will take some time before the deal is made (sometime next year)  , and the business will go back to UK.
I remember that the casting has stopped in Guernesey due to environment regulations, and has moved to UK, already.
Some casting are out of stock (ie : the most popular  D10) and has not been re-ordered. It will be put back in production when the new owner take over.
This storry is 1/2 sad as it will be another move for Stuart , but 1/2glad as there is some buyers on the bid and it will go on.
That's all I got from Stuart Guernesey and I deliver the information, the way I got it.
I wish a long, long life to Stuart as I am an inconditional of there manufacturing.
I hope that they will be competitive though, because what kills a business is the price , above all.
Kninds regards. ok2


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livesteam

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Re: STUART Guernesey.
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2011, 10:21:50 am »

Thanks for this info KBIO! I wonder if there will be a horizontal Puffin boiler available... Wrote to Roy yesterday, as it's not listed anymore on their website. However all the best to Stuarts future!
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« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2012, 04:16:03 pm »

I believe everybody is aware..

From Stuart Models website (News chapter) :

"Stuart Models are pleased to announce that they will be returning to the mainland in July 2012. The company has be brought by BRIDPORT FOUNDRY,who also back in 2006 brought the Plastow traction engine range. The new owners will soon have all the Stuart range available and will also be reviving some of the older engines to production. Please see website for updates and availability. As of the 1st July the new manager will be Andy Meakin who will be only to pleased to hear from you"

http://www.stuartmodels.com/news.cfm/archid/54

Alain
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