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PCF (Patrol Craft Fast) Vietnam Swift boat build
« on: July 04, 2014, 09:13:00 pm »

Anybody fancy a build blog (well as usual with me its a restoration) with one of these boats,. I have just started it after spending two years in the loft :embarrassed:
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Re: PCF (Patrol Craft Fast) Vietnam Swift boat build
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2014, 09:44:15 pm »

YES!!!.........it would be a nice change and a journey back into the past.

brushless weren't around when I built mine 20 odd years ago. lol.

cheers, neil.
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Re: PCF (Patrol Craft Fast) Vietnam Swift boat build
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2014, 10:37:13 pm »

Depends which one!!  I still have nightmares of my Caldercraft build.  Worst kit I ever invested in.  A total pile of junk.  Threw all the ply away and built from scratch but even then the plans were not good as they used a unit of measurement I was unfamiliar with being neither imperial or metric. Allegedly die cut wood but not one part had an actual cut mark.  Die lightly scored in places possibly and nothing fitted.  Fittings were decent I will accept but that was about all. 
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Re: PCF (Patrol Craft Fast) Vietnam Swift boat build
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2014, 10:55:02 pm »

yeh............seem to remember that myself, lol....................how memory fades the mind until reminded, lol
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Re: PCF (Patrol Craft Fast) Vietnam Swift boat build
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2014, 11:07:31 pm »

I'm having a go at the1/48 scale Monogram kit...amidst re-doing the garden.

Robert
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Re: PCF (Patrol Craft Fast) Vietnam Swift boat build
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2014, 11:30:40 pm »

Well we will do it then!
its 3 and some foot long will be twin  screw brushless. May be belt drive.  I was thinking one motor driving two shafts. Not sure yet.  Glass hull. The ply deck and cabin wants a lot of work. Pics to follow. Got a cool idea for a sound d unit but thats way off!
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Re: PCF (Patrol Craft Fast) Vietnam Swift boat build
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2014, 07:07:17 am »

Afraid mine may not be as impressive, comes out about 12" in length and the kit isn't spectacular, just fancied it for a try.
Robert
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Re: PCF (Patrol Craft Fast) Vietnam Swift boat build
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2014, 11:26:56 pm »

so here is what I have, a mess really, but it has potential :-))
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Re: PCF (Patrol Craft Fast) Vietnam Swift boat build
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2014, 11:27:37 pm »

and the parts
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Re: PCF (Patrol Craft Fast) Vietnam Swift boat build
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2014, 11:33:11 pm »

Its a wonder how this boat ever ran. The shaft supports are just floating in the hull, the only thing supporting them is a white metal tube support, and a load of gunk in just the thickness of the hull. The rudders are the same, so it all has to come out
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Re: PCF (Patrol Craft Fast) Vietnam Swift boat build
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2014, 11:38:02 pm »

Lots of potential there. Good luck!

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Re: PCF (Patrol Craft Fast) Vietnam Swift boat build
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2014, 12:03:26 am »

...just tagging along, hope to pick up some useful tips on the way - good luck with the build :-))
 
Regards,
 
Ray.
 
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Re: PCF (Patrol Craft Fast) Vietnam Swift boat build
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2014, 02:07:47 am »

Its a wonder how this boat ever ran. The shaft supports are just floating in the hull, the only thing supporting them is a white metal tube support, and a load of gunk in just the thickness of the hull. The rudders are the same, so it all has to come out


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Re: PCF (Patrol Craft Fast) Vietnam Swift boat build
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2014, 02:05:14 pm »

your rudder supports may be a little messy but look fine and stable o me...they are locked into a wooden plinth for support...........you might damage the hull more by trying to fix them than actually making them better.....

as for the prop shafts........I have seen many worse fitted.........some even on my own models, lol.

if they are water proof, in line and sturdy enough I would leave those too, as you could really damage the hull's integrity and gell coat by trying to get them out..........the rest will come out well with just a little hard work and some repainting.  :-))

neil.
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Re: PCF (Patrol Craft Fast) Vietnam Swift boat build
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2014, 03:48:15 pm »

I was given a tatty Perkasa.   I threw away the superstructure and built my own version.   Went for a brushless motor in the first instance, lots of problems, reverted to a Graupner 600 brushed motor.   Goes well.   Will try to attach photo on its maiden voyage.   Pete
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Re: PCF (Patrol Craft Fast) Vietnam Swift boat build
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2014, 04:40:57 pm »

Hi. I have a semi scratch PCF. and a scratch PBR mk2.
If you would like some pics to help you along ?.
Regards sub.
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Re: PCF (Patrol Craft Fast) Vietnam Swift boat build
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2014, 06:09:29 pm »

Is your pibber "Street Gang"? 


I've often considered a PBR or PCF build.  Interesting subjects.
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Re: PCF (Patrol Craft Fast) Vietnam Swift boat build
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2014, 09:25:25 pm »

Hi. It could be. I did a lot of reasearch into the pcf and pbr and managed to enlist the help of real US Navy vietnam vets...not an easy task to do its still a sore subject.
I also scratch built a bell sk5 assault hovercraft used by the us army on the plain of reeds very succesfully the VC  thought they were dragons. All my models are 1/16 scale will put some pics on if any one is interested.
Regards sub.
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Re: PCF (Patrol Craft Fast) Vietnam Swift boat build
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2014, 09:38:38 pm »

Street Gang is the PBR in Apocalypse Now.  I have seen some clever models of it with thatched canopies, and crew with arrows through there head.

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Re: PCF (Patrol Craft Fast) Vietnam Swift boat build
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2014, 10:33:56 am »

Hi, to all and Red181
Thatched canopies not a good idea.... as the correct canopy is more than that.. as it is a ballistic protection canopy,
As PBR are made of Fibreglass with ceramic reinforcement on the vital areas the only thing that can really trigger an RPG round is the radar dome above the canopy on the mast hence the reinforced ballistic canopy to protect the crew from shrapnel.

I will post some pics up on a different thread in Warships Navy of my Vietnam selection so as not to hijac this thread. :-))
Regards Sub. :-))
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Re: PCF (Patrol Craft Fast) Vietnam Swift boat build
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2014, 07:35:23 pm »

Hi all!

what a film eh Essex!, that was the inspiration for the PCF, I like models with "history" but when I looked closely at the pibber, it was a bit boring, so went for the PCF which is a bit of an ugly duck really imo! Im really looking forward to he paintwork, as at last a build without fussy finish, and I have a coiuple of great things to work with, but they will remain a secret for now!

Neil, all those crappy bits have been ripped out now, I just couldn't leave them in, I'm too fussy with how things look! OCD really :embarrassed: Sub, any info you have, the more the better, I do have quite a bit, and plans etc but bring it on! 

I have decided that it will be twin motor, direct drive, by that, the prop shafts will go into the brushless motor, the motor shafts will be removed, a driveline I did on the last build, my 4 foot aerokits fireboat.

Started to fit a bulkhead with support for the shafts, and plates for inside the hull to ensure that are bonded in properly. I spent ages thinking about the shafts, hopefully it will be ok, and enough clearance for the size of props I intend to use
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Re: PCF (Patrol Craft Fast) Vietnam Swift boat build
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2014, 10:52:46 pm »

Bulkhead cut out, ready to fit
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Re: PCF (Patrol Craft Fast) Vietnam Swift boat build
« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2014, 12:14:40 am »

Bulkhead in and position of shafts, with plates to locate shafts to hull
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Re: PCF (Patrol Craft Fast) Vietnam Swift boat build
« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2014, 12:17:29 am »

The motor mounts are done, the shaft will be removed from the motors, and the 4mm propshaft will go straight into the motor, with a cooling block, and a brass sleeve that will be soft soldered onto the outer shaft, this will need to be cut to length first, then I just need a simple "l" shaped mount to locate to the hull, to stop vibration, well that's the theory anyway!
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Re: PCF (Patrol Craft Fast) Vietnam Swift boat build
« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2014, 01:22:04 am »


So there will be no u joint/connectors on the motor, as the inboard end of the prop shaft will be integral to the outrunner?  Or am I reading this all wrong?

Would you mind including lots of photos of this?  I find this very intriguing as I am just getting back into the hobby after nearly 30 years, and still wrapping my head around all the changes in motors, batteries and electronics.
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