Model Boat Mayhem
Mess Deck: General Section => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: Peter Fitness on November 16, 2008, 06:01:09 am
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I've just been reading the Guardian on-line, and it appears that Northern Hemisphere sporting teams have done poorly this weekend.
In Rugby Union, Australia 28 England 14; South Africa 14 Scotland 10; New Zealand 28 Ireland 3; Argentina 22 Italy 14.
In Rugby League, New Zealand 32 England 22.
England in particular have had a bad sporting weekend, losing by a 158 runs to India in the first One Day International <:(. The Indian team is coming off a 2-0 test series win against Australia, so their confidence is high, but India is always hard to beat at home. BTW, I do know that India is also in the Northern Hemisphere, but I thought I'd mention the cricket in passing ok2
Peter.
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Peter,
Largely down to our sportsmen thinking they are better than they really are.......excepting the cricket that is. India are simply a very good team and as you say very difficult to beat at home. All we can expect is to perform as well as possible, winning is not likely.......
Now next year we have THE ASHES........ :-)) :-))
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Footski,
They might be played for in Blighty but will again return to Aust........
Roy
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Any one in Oz care to remind us how Team GB did in the Olympics :-))
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Any one in Oz care to remind us how Team GB did in the Olympics :-))
It's gone quiet on this thread all of a sudden!!! :-)) :-))
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Any one in Oz care to remind us how Team GB did in the Olympics :-))
It's gone quiet on this thread all of a sudden!!! :-)) :-))
I was thinking that ;)
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peter loves to rub it in about the poor sporting prowess of the Brits compared with the true blue Ozzie guy.
But I'd still take him on and stake my "reputation" in a "boat race"
Something that the ol' "bruce" just can't hack with his ice cold "middie"
I'll show ya who's the sports man amongst us then. {-) %% :D :o
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It's gone quiet on this thread all of a sudden!!! :-)) :-))
Mainly because we are 11 hours ahead of you. Yes, Great Britain (not England), did very well in the Olympics, as they should, but I'm speaking of the really important sports, like Rugby (both codes) and cricket ;) :}
Footski, the Ashes will be very interesting. Australia has come back to the field somewhat, since the retirement of Gilchrist, McGrath, Langer, and the "Text man", Shane Warne, and are in something of a rebuilding stage, but we will still be very competitive.
nhp651, who is "bruce"???? :o
If you are referring to a drinking competition, then I'm sure you would find plenty of Aussies (NOT Ozzies), who would take you on, but my hard drinking days are long behind me. BTW, middies are something you will only find in NSW. As far as I am aware, most of the rest of Australia refers to that size (285ml or about half a pint) glass as a "pot", for some strange reason.
Peter.
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Peter,
I am sure the next Ashes series will be good, but nothing can beat that series of 2005. Every match bar the first was close, exciting and everything that cricket lovers around the world could want.......Can't be that good again......Can it?
Barry
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Can't be that good again......Can it?
Barry, one can always hope.
Peter.
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"bruce"
i.e. refering to the architypial OZ couch potato with the enormous "chip" on his shoulder, who blusters through life trying to cast off the fact that he is possibly a decendant of our transportees..lol %% O0 ;D :embarrassed: :-))
Question: What is the rarest form of life in Australia?
Answer: A geneologist !!! lol {-) {-) {-)
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"bruce"
i.e. refering to the architypial OZ couch potato with the enormous "chip" on his shoulder, who blusters through life trying to cast off the fact that he is possibly a decendant of our transportees..lol %% O0 ;D :embarrassed: :-))
Never heard of him. :o There was an ad on TV some years ago using a cartoon character called Norm, who was supposed to be a couch potato. Maybe you're thinking of him?
It's fashionable these days to be able to trace one's ancestry back to a convict, but unfortunately, I can't. My great, great, grandfather migrated here of his own free will, with his wife and 4 sons, in 1855.
BTW, England flogged in the cricket - again - by India O0
Peter.
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You have a sad life, norm, :} oooops sorry, Peter........picking on us poor defenceless hard up, downtrodden poms.... :(( .....just you wait till 2012 in London..........we're putting ourselves into hock, just for you and yours %% <*<
....or perhaps the 2009 Edinburgh comedy fringe fest...........
OOOOOOOpss sorry, again, you don't do comedy down under, ;D ;D
too busy trying to inflate your egos at the expense of our under developed sporting ability. %% {-)
We can't be winners all the time..........have to give some encouragement to those who stamp their feet and through the rattle out the pram and give them a win sometimes.......keeps up the interest O0 :} %) :-))
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Interesting byplay NOT, Sport i think not It's just an excuse for spectators to get drunk. I enjoy seeing these fools spending a fortune to get s**t faced then making idiots of themselves and they won't remember it next day. Mind you I only see it on the news don't see it otherwise rather read a book or be modelling.
D.
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Any one in Oz care to remind us how Team GB did in the Olympics
Nail hit firmly on the head there I reckon, ozzie's still smarting from their dismal performance
Anyway we only win the important games :-))
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You have a sad life, norm, :} oooops sorry, Peter........picking on us poor defenceless hard up, downtrodden poms....
I don't have a sad life at all, nhp651, in fact, it's quite a lot of fun picking on (some) Poms O0 . I have lots of Pommy friends, and they are all great people - and some of them still live in England, too. :-)
I was wondering, do you actually know any Aussies? Or do you just believe everything you read? We're not a bad lot, you know, we're really quite civilised (we stopped eating people some time back), we don't use our fingers to eat any more either. The country itself is quite modern, too. We actually have electric power now, and some houses even have running water - but only if they are near a river.
If we get bored with picking on Poms, we can always go and chase a kangaroo, or wrestle crocodiles. However, at my age, I find chasing cane toads exciting enough; anyway, crocodiles are becoming too hard to find where I live. ;)
We do love beating the Poms though, at anything, and can become quite depressed if they beat us. <:( Mind you, that doesn't happen very often :}
Peter.
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Brilliant Peter....
I must just take you to task on one little point though......India did beat us...yes...because they are a very good side, playing at home and straight on the back of a good test series win.......OVER AUSTRALIA..
Barry
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"and can become quite depressed if they beat us. " :(( {:-{
The sad thing about that statement Peter is, that it is genuinely true, and it shows desperately in your own comments <:(.
Of all the aussies I know and have ever known, most ARE really poor loosers, especially if us poms beat you. ok2
I note from the increasing needling from you that you, as a person don't like to be wound up either especially by someone like me, and a pommie too. %)
I spent nearly 3 years in Canberra, teaching "industrial arts" a posh word for woodwork and tech drawing some years ago and do in fact have a number of friends that I still keep in touch with, down under, and all true blue aussies, and I took a lot of stick when I first arrived because I WAS a pom.............but coming from a background where this was the "norm" I could take it, and more to the point give back better than I gave.
Stood me in great stead..........my Aussie mates soon learned from my sense of humour for the better, and realised that you don't have to be cutting to the bone to have fun!! :embarrassed:
I have enjoyed this "friendly" banter with you, but if you are afraid of loosing ( as most aussies are) don't play the game. ;D
After all, in our hay day we were invincible at rugby u and l and also at Cricket............and you possom chasers had to cheat at that didn't you.....now look at Don Bradman and his bodyline series..........couldn't bowl 'em out fairly so knock the b*****s out..
As for rugby and soccer........yeh!! cheeting again.you went and invented Aussie Rules so us dumb brits couldn't understand the game and you could win ad infinitum?? {-) {-)
Lasty, getting back to the subject of boats...........didn't you lot even cheat at playing the America's Cup in the 80's..........in fact you outcheated the best cheaters in the sport...the Yanks, and cheated them at their own game, to win....now that takes some doing.!! {-) %% {-) ;D
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NHP651,
Yes you are right we beat the yanks, and they were not impressed..... {-) {-)
Roy
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Firstly, it's not soccer, it's called football >>:-( soccer is a word invented for use by girls & those from the US of A
Secondly, I love Aussie Rules :embarrassed: though there aren't enough punch-ups these days, sanitised by the TV companies i guess
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Roy, a man after my own heart ! :-))
"Yes you are right we beat the yanks, and they were not impressed....."
As for "soccer" or "football" depends on which demented commentator you take notice of? Don't watch the sport myself....would rather watch my Humbrol enamel dry {-) i stand corrected though, and wouldn't want to cause you stress, andy! <:(
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No stress taken at all, anyway i watch real football, not the premier rubbish on TV so I don't have to listen to commentators
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The main problem with the Aussies is they cheat like hell at all sports.
THEY PLAY TO WIN.
Whilst we Brits concentrate on being
GOOD LOSER'S.
Colin H.
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At least there's no one to touch us for Dwarf throwing.... GB, World champs :-))
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come to think of it......I've never seen an Aussie shot putter...
they can't fit the shot under their chin for fear of the chips on their shoulders falling off and hurting their fallen egos, lol {-) {-) %% :}
ohh Sorry Peter..Just can't help myself.you leave your self so wide open. {-) ;D
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The Indian team is coming off a 2-0 test series win against Australia, so their confidence is high, but India is always hard to beat at home.
Absolutely right Barry, as I mentioned in an earlier post, and they beat us deservedly, and comprehensively.
Peter
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After all, in our hey day we were invincible at rugby u and l and also at Cricket............and you possum chasers had to cheat at that didn't you.....now look at Don Bradman and his bodyline series..........couldn't bowl 'em out fairly so knock the b*****s out..
You certainly were invincible once nhp651, you had some great sides in all 3 sports you mentioned, and it's not long ago that England won the Rugby World Cup - and beat Australia in the last one.
I haven't actually got to the point where I like losing, but can happily accept it when beaten fairly by a better side, as happened in the RU World Cups I mentioned.
I think you need to check your facts about the Bodyline series though, it was the England bowlers who bowled bouncers, and stacked the leg side field, in an attempt to unsettle the Aussie batsmen. They succeeded too, and nearly killed some of them. However, you're delving into ancient history to bring Bodyline up. These days, bouncers are an accepted part of the game, although the number in an over is restricted; also, the number of fielders on the leg side is now limited as well.
You mentioned that you spent 3 years in Canberra - perhaps that explains why you talk so much hot air, Canberra's full of it :} , it's all those politicians there, you see. Someone once said that if all the hot air emanating from Parliament House in Canberra could be collected, it would heat half the homes in that city :-))
Never mind nhp651, I'm enjoying all the verbal sparring as much as you are, but I just wish the fish would bite as much as you do {-) {-)
BTW, we do have some shot putters, perhaps they use small shots to fit alongside the chips on their shoulders ok2
Peter.
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It just came to my mind that some one on this board could possibly explain the game of CRICKET? I tried to watch the other day and came away completely confused !!!!! {:-{ :embarrassed: {:-{ :embarrassed: <:( <:(
Andre
confused in Portland Oregon
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Andre, cricket is rather like baseball.......only different {-) {-) it's something you grow up with. To try and explain it to someone who knows nothing about it is only slightly less difficult than trying to explain the theory of relativity (not that I know anything about the theory of relativity) :}. It started in England, and the countries that play it at international level were mostly former British colonies.
As you may have gathered, England and Australia have a long standing rivalry, going back well over 100 years, and each country just loves to beat the other, but it's all good, clean fun - really. ;)
Peter.
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It just came to my mind that some one on this board could possibly explain the game of CRICKET? I tried to watch the other day and came away completely confused !!!!! {:-{ :embarrassed: {:-{ :embarrassed: <:( <:(
Andre
confused in Portland Oregon
Taking the lead from Peter's comment here's a link for you, an explanation in baseball terms :-)) http://www.seattlecricket.com/history/crick.htm (http://www.seattlecricket.com/history/crick.htm) or here is a slightly less simplified version http://www.squidoo.com/cricketfordummies (http://www.squidoo.com/cricketfordummies)
Haven't seen a game of cricket since I moved to Sweden 17 years ago and even worse, very little rugby :(( My Swedish friends find it hard to believe that I don't like football but continue to encourage me to watch hockey. This in itself causes problems as to me hockey is played on grass whilst they insist it is played on ice!!! I do however believe that the northern hemisphere rules the roost as far as (ice) hockey goes.
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Peter,
I did forget to remind you that we have recently won the cricket Hong Kong 6's, beating Australia in the final.....
Cricket is a game with two teams of 11 a side.. One in and the other out.
The team that is in has 2 batters out on the field and the team that is out has 11 players fielding.
When one of the batters is out he goes in and another batter comes out.
This goes on until 10 batters are out, leaving one in and then they are all out and go in.
The team that was out now goes in and the team that was in now goes out and fields.
The whole process repeats itself until either the second team, who are in, are all out or until they score more runs than the first team.
Now scoring runs is very simple.................... <*< <*<
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Now, Footski, I was trying to remember that explanation, ( a very famous one and can't remember who quoted it in the first place) but it sums the game up explicitely, and extremely amusing. {-) do you remember. %)
What I remember most about the cricket at "enjoyable level" in aus was playing on concrete pitches at such places as Captains Flat, and every few overs, one of the fielders would bring a wheel barrow around the pitch filled with ice and tinnies.......a most civilised way of playing the game in my mind........who cared who the winners were.....I certainly didn't after an innings. %% {-) %%
Peter, you are of an ae to remember the body line series in person.......I am a mere youngster and have to go off the propagander that you guys have printed over the years, dubious as it is? {-)
As for Canberra and hot air.......most definately agree.......Full of it......It's the only thing, apart from modelling I'm good at. :D :-))
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nhp651,
Having as you said been to Captains Flat, what else could you do there,
Its a bit like the land that time forgot.............
I know I lived there for 6 long months ....
Roy
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didn't see much of the place, Roy, and after the cricket match I could see even less, after gawd knows how many tinnies. I didn't know that a one day friendly could last so long into the night. {-) {-) {-)
Mind you I went back for a second time to apologise?? :o :}
In fact I bought an old classic 1951 MG from the estate of a deceased chap from C.F. after he had been killed racing another MG. that's about all I can remember of the sleepy little place. %%
I must state though, catagorically.Contrary to what Peter might think. I love the aussies and the australian way of life, and only wish I had the dosh to go back and visit for a while. I had a ball of a time for three very good years. Just enjoy the banter, without the risk of being thumped. {-) {-)
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nhp651,
No worries mate, if you get back here call in anytime.............
Roy
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cheers, Roy. mabe one day, hopefully I will. neil. :-))
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Peter, you are of an age to remember the body line series in person.......I am a mere youngster and have to go off the propaganda that you guys have printed over the years, dubious as it is? {-)
Neil, I'm not quite that old, :-) the bodyline series took place on 1932/33, I was born in 1937. It's not propaganda either, but historical fact :-)). However, I think that modern fast bowling is not far removed from the bodyline days, just the field placements are different.
Barry, I had heard that explanation (?) of cricket too, but I couldn't remember it. After reading it, I'm sure our American friends will now have a clear understanding of the game O0
Peter.
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sorry, Peter.......must have been wrinkled paper you had the photo put on? or perhaps too much australian sunshine.........you know what it does to the skin.....thank gawd it peee's it down in blightey all the time....I don't have to ruin my babyface complexion {-) {-) %% {-)
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I was once in a bar watching rugby between SA and NZ, and tryin g to explain the rules to some americans. They were picking it up quite well. Many of the decisions appeared to be going NZ way, and during one of the scrums an SA fan wearing a SA shirt and jeasn came runnin gaccross the screen and took the Ref out. The scrum collapsed and the NZ front row started on the SA Fan. The Americans looked at me and asked how this fits in the rules. They didnt realsie the SA fan wasnt a player and assumed it was part of the game %%
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must have been wrinkled paper you had the photo put on? or perhaps too much Australian sunshine.........you know what it does to the skin
I knew I shouldn't have used that old paper for the photo :}
Neil, I think "weather beaten" is a better description O0 {-) , and I do know what the sun does to skin, I have had a number of small skin cancers taken off in recent years.
Peter.
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All joking and friendly banter aside, for a moment, Peter.
Did the Aussie TV stations show any of the recent rugby world tournament for the wheel chair players, which I believe took place in Australia.
It was shown briefly( all too briefly) on our local North west News this evening, and was unbelievable.
These guys who play, know no fear. I would have loved to see more, and one can only look in humble amazement at their dedication and will to perform at what looks like an even harder sport than what I used to play. Brilliant.
Now back to the task...we brits actually won the tournament. :-)) :-))
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You think you have it bad, living in the UK and trying to stay up til 230am on Saturday night just to watch the Toronto Maple Leafs, lose yet again. But as with die hard footy fans, your born to love them, even though they have not won the NHL Stanley cup since I was 8 or 9! That is dedication...Go on Leafs.
But on a happier note , I was strolling through the town today, and walked by a charity shop and found a table top ice hockey game similiar to one I had when I was a kid, Four quid in mint shape, the staff didn't even know what it was...my 9 year old step son will love it, as he plays it on the ps2....can't wait til Christmas...he shoots, he scores! {-)
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Neil, like you, our TV stations only showed snippets. They are indeed amazing people, who don't let their disability stop them.
rem2007, we get the Stanley Cup on ESPN. I enjoy watching the game, even though I don't know much about it - (I'm not sure what "icing the puck" means) - but it's very fast. The old joke - I was watching a fight when a game of ice hockey broke out - seems appropriate at times, they can get quite aggressive <*< <*<
Peter.
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Hmm..icing the puck.....almost like explaining the offside rule in footy. Icing the puck is when you shoot the puck into the offensive end of the rink past the goal crease line but not going in the net and the opposing team touches the puck first, but not the goaltender. It took many cold nites on the rink and many warm nites watching the television to figure that one out. I get NASN here in the UK, but it is an American channel and they are always glorifying their teams. Drives me nuts to hear a defecting Canadian colour commentator broadcasting for the NY Rangers from Maple Leaf Gardens, oops Air Canada Centre, and feigning allegiance to an American team >>:-(
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Oh Dear Peter, what happenned to your Rubby League team today?
Not in mourning are we??? {-) %% :(( :(( :(( :(( :embarrassed:
I can hear a wailing and a gnashing of teeth from here?? <:( <:( <:(
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Neil, I'm in shock :o. Everyone thought that Australia was unbeatable in Rugby League, everyone except the Kiwis, that is. They outscored us 22-4 in the second half for a very well deserved win. Maybe the New Zealand cricket team can come back from the dead and beat us in the first Test in Brisbane :-)
I'm hoping Australia can beat France in the Rugby Union, now being played in Paris, but I'm not confident {:-{
Peter.
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don't worry peter, we lost too, against SA, mind you we're used to it.
never forget attending a friends wedding in deepest Llanwryst, Wales many years ago, and England were playing Wales at Cardiff Arms. the chaps were strategically places at the rear of the church and kept nipping out to listen on the radio for the state of play.
well, the english gave the welsh a stuffing, O0 and at the end of the service the minister gave out the score, and the welsh lassie had her first argument with her english groom. :embarrassed: :D
that night all the welsh party goers wore black arm bands. I kid you not.
i just kept trying to convince people that i had welsh extract with my welsh name. :embarrassed: {-) {-) {-)
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Neil, I have just watched a replay of the England v SA game, not a pretty sight :embarrassed: Now they have to face the NZ All Blacks %)
We did gain some revenge for our Rugby League loss by beating New Zealand comprehensively in the first cricket test; and our Rugby Union side (The Wallabies) beat France in Paris :-))
Peter.
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Now ya talkin' Peter.anyone who beets france...well!!! {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) :-))
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Neil, Australia loves beating England; England loves beating Australia, but everyone loves beating the French O0 {-) {-)
Peter.
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I must confess, though, Peter....the French do have good reason for disliking the brits so much. :(( :((
You see, they've never forgiven us for cheeting on them at Agincourt in 1415.
There they were, playing the game, and we had to go and stuff it up by shooting at them from long range with our long bows.
They didn't stand a chance of winning with the puny little cross bows that they were using.
Jolly poor loosers, I'd say!! {-) {-) {-)
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Thats ok, the Brits don't like us much either, offer them a 5 goal lead in ice hockey match at the Winter Olympics and their response....Eddie 'the Eagle' {-)
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Fellow Australians and those who are surprised about the RLWC win by NZ. Those who have followed the coarse of the coaches of Australia and NZ would realize the irony of this win by NZ. Wayne Bennet was replaced by Ricky Stewart as Head Coach of Australia and there was a war of words between them. No real love lost there. Wayne Bennet (who I think is the best RL coach ever) became assistant coach of NZ and has had sweet revenge. As we know Stewart spat the dummy at the officials after the game, he is just a sore looser and I have always thought so. NZ just wanted the win more and played like they did. Good on them I say. Don't get me wrong I love Australia but I love a good competition more :-)) :-)).
Regards David
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As we know Stuart spat the dummy at the officials after the game, he is just a sore loser and I have always thought so. NZ just wanted the win more and played like they did. Good on them I say. Don't get me wrong I love Australia but I love a good competition more :-)) :-)).
Couldn't agree more, David. Ricky Stuart's post match behaviour was appalling, and while I agree the refereeing was dreadful, to complain after being well beaten reeks of "sour grapes".
Neil, remind me never to upset the French, if they can hold a grudge for nearly 600 years {-). Your comment about the French disliking the British reminds me of a line from a song, (don't ask me which one, and I'm not even sure if I've got it right), which goes something like - "The British hate the Germans, the Germans hate the French, and the French don't like anyone very much". ;)
Peter.
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Be careful, be very, very careful, mes amis!
Roger in France
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The heads of the English broadhead arrows used at Agincourt and Crecy were the width of a man's hand (the English specification in those days). It must have been terrible for the French to have that lot raining down on them.
The French don't seem to be able to have a good battle without moaning about it forever more. Most unsporting... {-) {-)
Malc
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Correction
The French don't seem to be able to lose a good battle without moaning about it forever more. :D
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Now come on guys, leavre the poor old French alone, after all if you take a quick look back at history, we have been at war with each other for most of the last 600 years, during most of which they have been losing.......Not a nice thing to accept that...
Barry
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I think you all miss the point. As I understand history, The Normans were french and they certainly united the Brittons into one land one king. What has happened over the years does not change that. I think you would be hard pressed to not find a connection to the French in most English family trees.
Regards David
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Now the next target on the radar is the Welsh,
look out boys here comes the Aussies.............. :-)) <*<
Roy
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Nah, we prefer a real challenge.. {-)
Malc
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Oh dear Peter......your lads seem to have bumbed out at the rugby yet again {-) {-) {-)
you'll be transporting them back here for their sins, next.
the ignominy of it??? %% %% {-) {-) :-))
Never mind..........there's always synchronised swimming.......we're not to good at that one.....the water's too coold to practice in? %) ;D :-))
Oh Yeh, what was that one CBR900, lol O0 O0 {:-{ :((
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Oh dear Peter......your lads seem to have bombed out at the rugby yet again
Yes Neil, Wales were always going to be hard to beat. However, I don't call beating Italy, France and, of course, England :-)) "bombing out". The score in the Wales match was very close, 2 tries each, the difference being 1 penalty goal, and given the fact that Australia lost its captain after 2 minutes, and a winger later in the match, they didn't do too badly. I haven't seen the match so I can only go on news reports.
Oh, by the way, I see that England suffered another heavy loss, this time to New Zealand - I noticed you didn't mention that :embarrassed: New Zealand have now completed the "Grand Slam", having beaten England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales, without having a try scored against them. England, on the other hand, have been beaten by South Africa (heavily), New Zealand, (heavily), and Australia (not so heavily).
Peter.
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peter, I've given over relating the number of times that England loose to someone or other. :(( {:-{ :((
to read that list would take me longer than reading Tolstoi's War and Peace. {-) {-)
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WALES v AUSTRALIA:
Sorry, Peter but if you watched the match you would have seen Wales outplay Australia.
To attribute this (even in part) to the loss of their Captain is nonsense. You could also blame it on losing a player who committed a deliberate and blatant penalty offence and spent 10 mins, in the sin bin. The score would have been rather different if Wales had scored with two badly missed penalty kicks. I would add that the Welsh lineout (which performed badly) also gave away one try by allowing a stupid intercept.
Lets forget all that, it was one of the best, fastest games I have seen in a long time.
Roger in France
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And to all the better team won ;) ;)
Roy
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And to all the better team won ;) ;)
No argument from me there.
Peter.
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I think you all miss the point. As I understand history, The Normans were french and they certainly united the Brittons into one land one king. What has happened over the years does not change that. I think you would be hard pressed to not find a connection to the French in most English family trees.
Regards David
Non non non, the Normans were Vikings, ok the average soldier was French but William et family were vikings at heart
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Correct, Norman = Northman/Norseman