Model Boat Mayhem
Shows, Events, Club websites and Club Events => Mayhem at Wicksteed ! => Topic started by: bikerdude666 on June 22, 2011, 07:04:23 pm
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So from my bath duck thread, I'm wondering if there'd be any interest to start a fun racing league at the next Mayhem Wicksteed?
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=30857.msg304799#msg304799 (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=30857.msg304799#msg304799)
I'm provisionally thinking, limiting the basics to the giant bath duck as bought from Hawkins bazaar, allow minor mods to the 'hull' shape, nothing too major, and limit it to electric only but not restrict the size of motors/voltage/prop/jet.
Very vague just now, just want to see if it's worth considering or not. Thought it might give the public and families a bit if a laugh and show it's not all about professional quality scale models.
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It would be a laugh if you restricted the colour to the standard yellow {-)
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Lol although standard would be a laugh it would pose a huge problem, but we could restrict it to bright colour schemes only!
A few ideas suggested by a fellow mayhemer (though he is from the north... Lol)
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It's grim oop north tha knows...how about each duck being issued with a 3 (4?!) digit race number, or the builder designing their own battle flag to a standard size, which can be flown from a pennant say 3 or 4 feet above the water and aid identification amidst the mayhem...there will be mayhem won't there?!
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Sorry but I just cant resist this
NO ic ducks ...cos IC is BANNED .....lol
Stav....now running for cover
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So it could be duck egg blue or mallard green with a nice boat tail, powered by eider twin paddles or a nice brushless with a feathered prop! Or even a submersible duck with just its head sticking out of the water - that's Peking duck ;)
Sorry, just plucked those out of the air .....
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- that's Peking duck ;)
sounds a bit fishy to me
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Fish would have to be scale only !
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Sadly I never made it to Wicky this year due to financial difficulties (skint), but I wondered, how many of you did make it along or would like to take part in the Great Wicky Duck Sailing/Racing Champs 2012? Even a glacially slow builder like moi might manage...if I start soon...and work really hard...
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No other takers? Not just for a bit of fun?
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Collected the duck the weekend just need to sort out what to do. Not sure what will stick to it adhesive wise any suggestions appreciated
Regards
Colin
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Mines gonna be Motor Mouth powered!
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I am up for a duck race next year at Wickstead :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Brian
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nhp651 said "sounds a bit fishy to me"
Would that not be Bombay Duck...
...Best Regards...Norry...
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Martin how about using duck tape that might stick it
Jimmy
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Used a hot glue gun in mine.
Martin is it ok for next year?
Suggest not starting til some rules are decided, are we using a standard duck with powerplant of our choice (electric as no ic at wicksteed) or do we allow hull mods?
I'll pm Martin tomorrow, gotta get to work now.
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OK by me... and you are in charge of the race and chief judge! :-))
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Judge? I'm thinking 2 or 3 laps round the lake, 1st past the post wins, I'll be busy racing! Lol
Those who voted yes and maybe can you make yourselves known, then I can let you know what's happening. Plenty of time to be making and fine tuning those ducks!
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How about a a small steering element in the race, eg. in or around a couple of buoys so it's not just a
duck(club)-500 race where 'he who has the most powerful motor' wins!
'Rules! Rules! I need rules to live!'
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just my 10p's worth.... Rules...
for our Club500 all the motors are in a bag.... and on the day of the race, everyone picks a motor out of the bag... that way no one has time to tamper with the motors and if they do, they might not get the same motor at the next race...
that would solve the motor problem..!! :-)) :-))
which your just left with the speed controller and Batteries/accumulator (lipo or Sub C nicad cells)
some speed controllers don't give the full wack of power to the motor...!!
some batteries are better than others...!!
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You're all quackers!
Sounds like fun. I'd say speed 400 (or brushless equivalent) on 2s lipo would be more than sufficient power wise. 2.4ghz radio would enable lots of entants without worries about frequency clash. It would be best to make this a stock class, with everything the same for all models.
My only concern would be stability, as the duck is almost as high as it is long. Do they need a keel, or a bit of lead in the belly to make them stay upright? Anyone with experience of R/Cing these care to comment?
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Hi All
OK OK lets race but remember DUCK paddle O0 O0 O0 O0
Timo2
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You would have to start the race with a duck call!
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This sounds like a fun idea. :-)) This could be one coming from Glasgow, meet Donald MacDuck :D
(http://s4.postimage.org/232i90ftw/donald_Mac_Duck.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/232i90ftw/)
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If we are registering names can i have Odd Job as it will fit the end result.
Colin
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Thats the duck on order. :} not sure if we're getting to register names yet Colin, I just put that up for a laugh, has anyone decided what motors yet? or is it what ever you want to put in?
David
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OH.....Ok then, I suppose I`ll go along with this one %%
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Well done Big Bri, :-)) Just have to get big colin on board. {-)
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Your work is cut out on that score matey %%
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Hi all
Paddling Duck will Visit Knightswood M.B.C. Gala Day on Saturday 9th July
Timo2
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So The race is on :-)) O0
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Well done Big Bri, :-)) Just have to get big colin on board. {-)
BT mate !! Will discus this further at the weekend <*<
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Right firstly, sorry for the slow reply, no sleep in 36 hours meant just about managed to send 1 pm yesterday morning then fell asleep until 20 mins before work last night. So...
Some basic rules, I want it to be as simple as possible, and a laugh rather than a serious race so the rules are (I feel) very slack.
1: electric only but no restrictions on size of motor/s, batteries, prop, water jet. But please remember this is a fun thing not a serious race.
2: no major mods to the hull, ie no mounting the duck on a powerboat hull. Restricted to the fitting of a keel or some small fins to help keep it straight. I was personally thinking of a longish keel with a fishing weight on the bottom, but that's your decision.
3: each duck will need to be easily identifiable whilst on the lake, so a custom flag needs to be flown from the top of the ducks head, if you want something specific, pm me with a description or picture and I'll make a list.
4: the duck needs to be either the 1 from Hawkins bazaar or 1 the same though I don't know who else sells them.
I think those 4 rules should essentially cover the basics, if I've overlooked some glaringly obvious decisions please let me know.
The winner will get a 'prize' but don't get excited, I can guarantee it will be cheap and tacky, to match the 'vessels' taking part!
As for names, if anyone wants to reserve a name thats fine, just add it to the thread and I'll make a list.
I'd like to reserve 'queen quacker' for myself and 'duckzilla' for my gf.
Not sure of the course, only been to the boating lake at wicksteed for about 5 mins last Saturday, there were some cones in the water, maybe a race around these? But it will be around corners aswell as straights so you'll need to try and get it to turn ok.
(another long night at work last night so please forgive any typos or omissions.)
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Rules look good, can we have paddlewheels as well as there are some good cheapish geared motors out there and I did fancy a sidewheeler...although a sternwheeler may be best for simplicity %)...decisions decisions...liked the 2.4GHz suggestion too for avoidance of frequency clashes, Giant Cod are doing a 4 channel set for £25 at the mo and I can always use it in my other builds...when I build them! :embarrassed:
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Paddle wheels are fine, and the 2.4 ghz is a good idea I just didn't want to insist on it, as some people may not have the money to go eating new radio aswell, I'd rather say 2.4 ghz is strongly advised, but if you really haven't got the money or really don't want to be buyin more radio gear the use the older sets, but be prepared for a bit of trouble if someone else has the same frequency as you.
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Thanks dude, have just had a quick Google check on 'giant bath duck' and you can buy them on InternetukShop for £11.99 and a good few other places too, they are described as being 32 x 23.8 x 18.2cm, I trust that this is the right one? If it is or if anyone finds them much cheaper do let us all know...let the building commence!
PS You can also buy a pink version with white love hearts for the ladies in your lives! ok2
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Lol, i have literally about 30 secs ago done the exact same, as i know hawkins bazaar postage is a bit pricey (though I'm lucky and have 2 of them local, 1 in bath and 1 in bristol)
by doing the same as you and googling 'giant bath duck', i found a place called 24retail, who do a bright pink 1 with little white hearts on it, anyone got a daughter who wants to take part? lol
and mods please delete this if its deemed inappropriate but theres a selection of colours on ebay aswell, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330577435358 though it does state that they are only 10 inches long.
AA: yes the correct size is the 32cm long ducks, so yes as stated if anyone else finds them cheaper, let us all know. I'll try and email the above ebay seller and see if these are infact the correct 32cm long or not.
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Hi dude the InternetukShop duck has length given as both 32cm and 26.4cm which latter dimension is 10.39 inches, so methinks that the "10 inches" ebay duck shown is very probably the right size, colour options a good idea here to contribute to quick identification in addition to the flag, The Race is on folks How Will You Power Yours!
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I baggsy "Sir Francis" for my duck!
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hawkins bazaar duck is listed as 32cm long, and 27cm high, so unsure, to be honest as long as they're much the same size it shouldn't matter.
ok got a little list of reserved names on my laptop now, i'll post it later.
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I'll take donald macduck, not if i'll do a tartan one or not might be a bit tricky painting.
David
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As previous message ODD JOB for me please.
Colin
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I'll take donald macduck, not if i'll do a tartan one or not might be a bit tricky painting.
David
I thought something with Duck Tape in the title would have suited you better David ;D {-)
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How about Peeking Duck for name, someone can claim that if they want.
Jimmy
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I did think about that, was just waiting for you to say it. {-)
David
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You can call mine.... Leftenant Soggybottom %%
Knowing me , the damned thing will sink anyway {-)
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Mine will most probably be "yellow submarine"
Brian
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Thats a good one bri, dose that mean we'll get to see you in the water at wicksteed? {-)
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Its about the only pond I hav`nt been in yet O0
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Theres plenty time to sort that out, {-)
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Quick list of names as I think they stand:
Davidsg1a: Donald Macduck
Colin: odd job
Martin: sir Francis
Big bri: leftenant soggybottom (dunno if you really wanted that 1, just scanning through the thread spotting the names)
Chingdevil: yellow submarine
Me: queen quacker
My gf: duckzilla
If any of you were joking and want to change the name let me know and I'll amend the list.
This morning I tried several different glues on the duck, 1st being hot glue gun, it works for sealing around things but doesn't hold anything well, then I tried some humbrol precision glue, which was completely useless (shame cos it's normally really good on the Revell kits), last thing I tried was loctite super glue, which is really good!
So I'd recommend the loctite super glue (but go careful with it, managed to glue my fingers together about 5 times in as many minutes)
Taking the duck for a test run this weekend (provided I can get hold of a battery charger) I'll try and get a video of it's maiden voyage.
Anyone else got any further with their planning? Or are you all keeping it top secret? Lol
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Can it be a twin motor duck? :-))
David
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When I built my bath duck way back in 1987 (it sounds so grand when you put it like that,eh?) I found the best way to install stuff into what I have christened 'Rubber Duck Plastic' i.e. nothing sticks to the cursed stuff, was to bond a plywood base into the inside bottom of the duck with silicone sealant and put stainless tapping screws through the bottom of the duck to hold the whole lot in place. I could then bond to the plywood with ease.
My model had a steerable pod hanging under the model with the motor in it. The designers of the Queen Mary 2 later copied my idea, only on a larger scale <*<
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Wish they would coat the wife's frying pan with what ever they are moulded from would save me a fortune, have tried the evostick sticks like S**t but it doesn't will keep trying.
Colin
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Hi
Names
The one or only " Q " Duck
Timo2
Duck's paddle OK O0 O0
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Added a name and I've gone for a name change:
Davidsg1a: Donald Macduck
Colin: odd job
Martin: sir Francis
Big bri: leftenant soggybottom (dunno if you really wanted that 1, just scanning through the thread spotting the names)
Chingdevil: yellow submarine
Me: ducks of hazard (if I can fit it in it may be complete with Dixie air horns)
My gf: queen quacker
Timo: Q
Yes twin, triple, quad motors, whatever you want, as long as it's electric.
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Well, took the duck out for a trial run yesterday, half decent speed and manouverability (sp?). However did find a couple of small issues, the battery pack got ridiculously hot, too hot to touch, and there seems to be a small leak somewhere but can't find where, nothing major though after an hour on the water there was only a tiny puddle inside
However, it seemed stable enough, so wouldn't have thought a keel is necessary. Have got a short video and will post it soon.
Anyone else got any progress?
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I have brought the duck
Brian
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Working long hours at mo but postie kindly delivered my chosen radio, a cracking 2.4 gig 4 (6?) channel Radiolink T4EU from Giant Cod for £25ish which bound with the 6 channel Tx included literally at the push of a button, am well pleased both with the Cod service and with the kit, now for the powerplant and choice of drive...come on folks How Will You Power Yours? %)
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Added a name and I've gone for a name change:
Davidsg1a: Donald Macduck
Colin: odd job
Martin: sir Francis
Big bri: leftenant soggybottom (dunno if you really wanted that 1, just scanning through the thread spotting the names)
Chingdevil: yellow submarine
Me: ducks of hazard (if I can fit it in it may be complete with Dixie air horns)
My gf: queen quacker
Timo: Q
Yes twin, triple, quad motors, whatever you want, as long as it's electric.
Yep! leftenant soggybottom for me....knowing my luck, it will sink anyway O0 {-)
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Hopefully this link will work, the maiden voyage of queen quacker...
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=GB#/watch?v=_SFyfC59mPM
As for propulsion, I've decided to go for a water jet. And my gf's is being kitted out with random bits I've got lying around, think the motor is a speed 500 or something, driving a single prop.
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nope link didnt work
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Link does not work
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Hmmm... Shall try again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SFyfC59mPM&sns=em
Hope that 1 works, if not it'll have to wait until I get back to my laptop.
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Odd both links work on my phone, 1st link takes me to YouTube site but I think it's the mobile version, 2nd link takes me to YouTube iPhone app.
If neither work for you search rc duck on YouTube, added within the last 7 days.
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Link on post 64 works for me :-)) :-)) :-))
Ned
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Link on post 64 works for me :-)) :-)) :-))
Ned
Me too think it is totally quac {-)kers
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Is this a legal way to race. :-))
(http://s4.postimage.org/2tbhbhko4/duck.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2tbhbhko4/)
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Lol as imaginative as that is I have to say no lol could tow a duck with another duck though, my gf is planning on navigation a whole family of baby bath ducks following along behind....
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Anyone found a glue that works properly on these ducks yet?
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Hi all
glue = hot melt O0
timo2
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I tried hot melt glue, it was ok for sealing around the rudder and things but to actually get things to stick it was useless, however loctite multipurpose superglue worked brilliantly, just be sure not to get any on your fingers!
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Hey electric only, thats not fair....wot about my steam duck (Oh yes it can be done--remember my springer ;) )
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Hey electric only, thats not fair....wot about my steam duck (Oh yes it can be done--remember my springer ;) )
Well it's an extra challenge for you, link your steam engine to a mini dynamo to power an electric motor!
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Thanks to local boot sale now proud owner of a large duck........of to workshop......(or oven whichever comes first) O0 O0
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Oh dear, Phil !!! Where are you going to put the steam exhaust ? {-)
ken
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Just wondered how people are getting on with the ducks Odd Job nearly complete just need to sort out how to post pictures. Have you decided on a date and location for Mayhem next year yet Martin?
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I bought 1 of the ducks, decided on how to power it/what prop rudder system etc, but I'm still unsure as to how I'm going to cut it open. Bit stuck for parts at the moment.
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A few shots of Odd Job
Need to sort ballast out now to stop the sumersaults at full power and finish painting.
(http://s7.postimage.org/448i0oy5j/IMG_0278_Large.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/448i0oy5j/)
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Regards
Colin
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Just curious, if Steamboat Phil is going to 'steam power' his duck, is he going to call it 'The Mallard' :} :}.
I am just considering all the names possible, if I can get my grubby little hands on a duck I'm thinking of fitting him with a fake jet exhaust with suitable burn marks and calling him a 'Crispy duck'. %%
Nick B
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Well I've ordered my duck, just wondering about drive system... Waterjet, gas turbine, nuclear, hydrodynamic propulsion??? O0
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Well I've ordered my duck, just wondering about drive system... Waterjet, gas turbine, nuclear, hydrodynamic propulsion??? O0
Rubber band?
%% %%
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Hmmm, simple is best. Must admit I've got a very nice powerfull brushless motor sitting in my garage waiting for a home... O0
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Got a couple of Graupner speed 600 motors spare that I'm tempted to put in but I got a feeling they might be a bit too much lol
Keep having new ideas and deciding that's definitely how I'll do it then think of a different way again! Can I enter a fleet of ducks?
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The
Eagle Duck has landed... :-))
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Hi all,
We have ordered our duck and we are going to name him Maffi duck but don't call him scar face.
regards
Alan and Debs
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Does that mean Alan is doing the Al Pacino role??? :-))
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Well, my duck is coming along, and as he has eye sight like mine he shall of course be called.....wait for it....
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Peeking Duck
(although if the chosen powerd method does not work............Steamed Duck / Crispy Duck)
O0
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Well I've made a start on my duck. Anyone making one needs to be careful there are no cracks in the underside, see pic 3. These weren't visible from the outside but only apparent when cut open. This is why I had to cut the bottom out completely and replace it with a styrene section. Still not thought of a name yet... More to come soon, Dave. :-))
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Right firstly, sorry for the slow reply, no sleep in 36 hours meant just about managed to send 1 pm yesterday morning then fell asleep until 20 mins before work last night. So...
Some basic rules, I want it to be as simple as possible, and a laugh rather than a serious race so the rules are (I feel) very slack.
1: electric only but no restrictions on size of motor/s, batteries, prop, water jet. But please remember this is a fun thing not a serious race.
2: no major mods to the hull, ie no mounting the duck on a powerboat hull. Restricted to the fitting of a keel or some small fins to help keep it straight. I was personally thinking of a longish keel with a fishing weight on the bottom, but that's your decision. This means flat bottom hulls, with the addition of keels are acceptable, NO MOUNTING ON ANOTHER TYPE OF HULL!
3: each duck will need to be easily identifiable whilst on the lake, so a custom flag needs to be flown from the top of the ducks head, if you want something specific, pm me with a description or picture and I'll make a list.
4: the duck needs to be either the 1 from Hawkins bazaar or 1 the same though I don't know who else sells them.
I think those 4 rules should essentially cover the basics, if I've overlooked some glaringly obvious decisions please let me know.
The winner will get a 'prize' but don't get excited, I can guarantee it will be cheap and tacky, to match the 'vessels' taking part!
As for names, if anyone wants to reserve a name thats fine, just add it to the thread and I'll make a list.
I'd like to reserve 'queen quacker' for myself and 'duckzilla' for my gf.
Not sure of the course, only been to the boating lake at wicksteed for about 5 mins last Saturday, there were some cones in the water, maybe a race around these? But it will be around corners aswell as straights so you'll need to try and get it to turn ok.
(another long night at work last night so please forgive any typos or omissions.)
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The above post is not aimed at 'number 6' or Colin, both of which are perfect examples of how to do them.
Number6 how did you cut your duck so neatly?
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The above post is not aimed at 'number 6' or Colin, both of which are perfect examples of how to do them.
Number6 how did you cut your duck so neatly?
He was a game dealer in a former life
Ned
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Used a very sharp new titanium coated stanley knife blade, was a bit nerve wracking to say the least. :o Followed the curves of the wings and other lines marked out with fine masking tape. It's not the easiest thing to cut open and there are a few rough edges but it'll be ok.
As for game dealer, well I have butchered a few models in my time I guess. :P
More to come soon, Dave. :-))
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Wow, i used 3 new very sharp modelling knives, the duck blunted them all and its really not cut well. It was easier after pouring boiling water over the duck to soften it up, but clearly you have a steadier than me!
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I never thought of softening it up with hot water, good idea that. I decided to swap the end the Schottel drive is located as it may be better pulling it thorough the water than trying to push it along, we'll see how it goes. There will be a detachable keel too that I can put a weight on if a bit unstable (the duck not me). I'll be doing some trials soon, so that should be intersting!
Has anyone found a good paint for them? I've used Halfords primer on the 'bottom' of mine for now, seems to stick well and hasn't cracked.
I'm thinking of black/white dazzle camouflage finish, 'Dazzle Duck' maybe? More to come soon, Dave. :-))
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I think this guy should be actively discouraged from entering...
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We could host the whole race inside that duck! {-)
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Well, I took delivery of a parcel from 'cornwall model boats' (excellent service, had an email about my order, immediately followed by another apologising for spelling my name wrong!) so now I have (almost) all the bits to do 2 ducks, 1 running twin 385's with twin rudders and 3 blade 25mm props, and the other with a graupner hydro propulsion unit, with a hydro prop and a graupner speed 500 race motor.
Hopefully they'll work, otherwise I've just wasted my next 2 months modelling budget....
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I've actually managed to get round to doing something today as my brief bout of 'man flu' has gone. Got Dazzle Duck primed and base coat of white on. I then spent around 2 hours masking the stripes on it (thanks Russ for the masking tape). I just got it done in time for the heavens to open. >:-o
Hope it's nice tomorrow and I'll get the black paint on. Could do with a nice hat to put on it... Dave. :-))
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Must be the original 'Ugly Ducky'
if it needs a bag over it's head
Ned
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Must be the original 'Ugly Ducky'
if it needs a bag over it's head
Ned
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It's got bad breath too... O0
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Got the black done while it's still dry, Dave. :-))
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A Dazzle DucK! :o
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Thought Dave was masking the body with one of your shirts Martin
Ned
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Blimey I'll be glad when Dazzle Duck is finished! It had first proper 'bath' trials today and it handles very well and seems quite stable. The only issue I did encounter was that when I tried to go backwards too quickly it lurched forward and sometimes water came in at the 'bow' where I'd it cut for access.
I strongly suggest that anyone building one should try to leave as much of the 'bow' intact as possible. I've modified mine now by re-cutting the front and putting a shield in place to hopefully stop as much water getting in, have yet to try it though (see pics).
It's pretty much done now, just some more bits of painting and it needs a hat or bandanna. How's everyone else coming on with theirs?
Dave. :-))