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Title: France 19
Post by: wullie/mk2 on October 08, 2011, 11:02:41 am: Poor England,...no better than their footie counterparts,.....and before you all come down on me like a ton O, s***e, {-) {-) I know Scotland went out earlier,
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: DickyD on October 08, 2011, 11:09:47 am: Were Scotland in it then ?
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: Xtian29 on October 08, 2011, 11:46:38 am: Hello

Le rosbiff je l'aime en tranche :}

Such a great pleasure today !! As Breton it will be the same for me next week with Wales and France. Bretons are Celtics and have ancestries coming from Wales and Cornwall and my mame for exemple is an old welsh word meaning brave warrior O0

I support France, Wales and anyone playing England ok2

Xtian
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: DickyD on October 08, 2011, 12:10:13 pm: Seeing as the rest of my family are nearly all Kiwis I suppose I had better support the All Blacks now.(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/498_sml.jpg)(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/newzealand.gif)
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: Xtian29 on October 08, 2011, 12:25:29 pm: nice way to be the winner Dicky D :-)) ... but here, TV specialists are talking about South Africa as most impressive team ! Wait and see !

Xtian
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: DickyD on October 08, 2011, 12:48:46 pm: Behave yourself xtian or we wont lend you our new aircraft carrier when we get one.[you supply the planes.] (http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/tumb.gif)
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: BarryM on October 08, 2011, 01:41:20 pm: Listening to the hysterical commentater today, you realise what a loss Bill McLaren is to the world of really good commentary.

Barry M
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: Xtian29 on October 08, 2011, 02:06:59 pm: {-) Dicky D the main problem is that you will be equiped with a helo carrier when we will need your ship for our aircraft %% Politicians are so nice actually on both side of the channel !

Anyway it's better to give power to stupid polititian than to hysteric ones like Napoleon ... Then hopefully it still rugby to fight our best ennemy but that time just to have fun at the pub : some time fun is for you some time for us.

Xtian
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: Marks Model Bits on October 10, 2011, 10:47:00 pm: An Englishman, Irishman and Scotsman walk into a bar.

The Englishman says "where's the Welshman"?

The bar man replies......

Still in New Zealand!!! {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: Shipmate60 on October 10, 2011, 10:54:38 pm: So were you the "Englishman" Mark?

Bob
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: BarryM on October 10, 2011, 10:57:44 pm: Wasn't that part of the problem? - The Englishmen stayed in the bar when all else had gone to bed?

Barry M
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: Marks Model Bits on October 10, 2011, 11:01:26 pm: Quote
Wasn't that part of the problem

Most of the problem I think......

The Welsh team were very humble in victory...... I suppose they aren't used to winning!!!!!
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: pugwash on October 10, 2011, 11:21:26 pm: I know that on the day we were beaten by a far better team - but the really annoying part is when you think back to
what we did to the Aussies last year and what they did to the Franch you know the team is far better than it played all during the World Cup.
They are getting as bad as the football team who can never perform on the big occasion
Still look on the bright side Leicester Tigers will have all their team back soon and hopefully will start winning again
Geoff
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: carlmt on October 10, 2011, 11:22:24 pm: Quote from: xtian29 on October 08, 2011, 12:25:29 pm
nice way to be the winner Dicky D :-)) ... but here, TV specialists are talking about South Africa as most impressive team ! Wait and see !

Xtian

So much for 'specialists' {-) {-) {-) - South Africa are on the same plane out of NZ as England....

The stats point to an NZ / Wales final, although with a lot of the top NZ players out through injury, it must be touch and go if they beat the Wallabies!!!!!

Allez les Rouges!!!!! cymru am byth!!!! I will have an 'interesting' day on Saturday : I am Welsh and the missus is French!!! Domestic harmony? You have to be kidding {-) {-) {-)
Carl

PS - Perhaps NOW the UK TV and press will talk about the other teams in the competition instead of just blatherin' on about England. It makes me laugh sometimes - I can clearly remember the English rugby standard of the late '60s and '70s. Wooden spoon anyone?
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: pugwash on October 10, 2011, 11:45:36 pm: Carl hark your mind back to February this year - your beloved team only just got a win over ITALY and if they had had a decent kicker
you would have been down and out. Everybody can have a bad game. Personally I hope the French win as we will never hear the last
of it if Wales get to the final.

Vive La France

Geoff
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: carlmt on October 10, 2011, 11:56:37 pm: Dont write Italy off so easily............they are a bit like the French - VERY unpredictable!!!!

I would lay money on the Italians vying for quarter final honours in 8 years time (not the next world cup - the one after). Look at how Argentina have come on over the last 12 years or so....now 8th in the world rankings, above Scotland (10), one behind Ireland (7) and two behing England (6).

Anyroad - at least we can all have good natured banter following rugby..............if it was football, knives would be drawn and violence almost guaranteed.

How is it?

Rugby is a game for hooligans played by gentlemen and football is a game for gentlemen played by hooligans....

C
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: Marks Model Bits on October 11, 2011, 12:32:23 am: Gatland has put a huge amount of faith in a predominantly young team.... For instance, George North, 19 years old and has played for Wales more times than he has played for the Scarlets....
Choosing Rhys Priestland at 10 instead of Hook worked and Steven Jones not even in the starting 22, risky but it worked well....... Warburton, Faletau, Lydiate, Halfpenny, Jonathan Davies, Scott Williams have all played exceptionally well with a maturity belying their age....

He has managed to put together a team with a good mix of youth and experience and the team has worked well together.

Most important of all there are no major injury issues in the Welsh camp, it must be a good feeling for Gatland to be spoilt for choice instead of "having to make up the numbers"

Go Wales.....

Mark.
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: brianB6 on October 11, 2011, 04:38:52 am: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A Jones living in Australia for the Finals.
France vs. New Zeeland. Unthinkable!
I cannot loose. %%
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: mikearace on October 11, 2011, 09:01:11 pm: [quotePoor England,...no better than their footie counterparts][/quote]

To borrow the same phrase, poor Scotland no better than their rugger counterparts. Viva Espania 3-0 with ages to go for more goals. {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) %% O0 :-))

Pass me the peruvian whisky to pour in my costa rican coffee to wash down my faroe isles fish to celebrate!

ABS

:-))
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: Peter Fitness on October 11, 2011, 10:28:19 pm: Quote from: DickyD on October 08, 2011, 12:10:13 pm
Seeing as the rest of my family are nearly all Kiwis I suppose I had better support the All Blacks now.(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/498_sml.jpg)(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/newzealand.gif)

Don't write off the Aussies just yet, Richard, however, I have to admit that the All Blacks are the team to beat. If they don't win the World Cup in their own country, the whole of New Zealand will be absolutely inconsolable <:(

The French blew England off the park in the first half :-)), and even Jonny Wonder Boy couldn't save them this time. Wales were very impressive, but I don't believe that they can win the final - assuming they get there, that is. I think whoever wins between NZ and Australia will lift the trophy.

Peter.
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: carlmt on October 11, 2011, 11:28:52 pm: Peter - ordinarily, I would agree with you that the AB's would be the team to beat.............however, they have a few injury worries to a few key players (as do the Wallabies!!!), and that WILL affect their game plan. Both Wales and France do not have this issue.

France have chosen to field the same team that beat England - history does not foretell that this is a good move for them (they lost each time they did this before!!).

Patriotism aside, I genuinely believe that, so long as the boys keep their heads, Wales really DO have their best chance ever of pulling off an incredible feat.

France will put up stiff resistance, but will sucumb to frustration and indiscipline should things not go their way. Yes - Wales have a mass of expectation on their shoulders............but the team is on the other side of the world and not in Cardiff........so the immediate 'clamour' will not be quite so noticable to them.

Roll on Saturday......................oh boy!!!!!!!!!
Carl
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: Xtian29 on October 12, 2011, 12:49:29 am: Hello

Quote
Roll on Saturday......................oh boy!!!!!!!!!
:-))

When I was in the Navy (French Navy) during a port of call at Portsmouth I buy a t-shirt with "I support Navy and anyone playing the Army" Then when I was in New Caledonia I made a port of call at Aukland NZ and I buy another t-shirt "I support New Zealand and anyone playing Australia" I still have it I will wear it saturday

So : Saturday I will watch the play Wales France but I don't care about the result, just enyoying the play. Then Aussie versus Kiwi I will support the NZ, with australian I like to watch australian football I have a great souvenir with a play St Kilda vs I dont remember

Xtian
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: wullie/mk2 on October 12, 2011, 10:41:26 am: Quote from: mikearace on October 11, 2011, 09:01:11 pm
[quotePoor England,...no better than their footie counterparts]

To borrow the same phrase, poor Scotland no better than their rugger counterparts. Viva Espania 3-0 with ages to go for more goals. {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) %% O0 :-))

Pass me the peruvian whisky to pour in my costa rican coffee to wash down my faroe isles fish to celebrate!

ABS

:-))
Was that on a Rock,...or in your case Under it,BTW,does anyone have a Recording of England V Germany,from last years Footie World Cup, {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: Xtian29 on October 15, 2011, 10:48:53 am: Hello

Poor Welsh ! My deep respect to them. They are brave warriors, it was a hard play.

Now : I support new Zealand and anyone playing Australia ... Wait and see !

Xtian
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: DickyD on October 15, 2011, 11:03:41 am: I actually felt sorry for the Welsh, robbed by the ref. <*<

I'm with Xtian now come on you (http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/498_sml.jpg)
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: Xtian29 on October 15, 2011, 12:51:11 pm: No excatly robbed by the ref, the fault was strong and non acceptable for a world cup team. By the way : a try with playing at 14 :-)) it's a pity for them, Welsh deserve to win !

I'm crossing my fingers for a New Zealand / France final. Humm a Australia / France means we have a chance ! otherwise : no chance for a final versus the black in "Kiwi land" :embarrassed:

Xtian
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: Peter Fitness on October 15, 2011, 10:08:43 pm: I feel extremely sorry for the Welsh team; they played most of the match with 14 men but, in many ways, were their own worst enemies. They missed 5 out of 6 shots at goal - 4 penalty attempts and a conversion, any one of which would have won them the match. They scored the only try of the game, even though they were a man short, and should possibly have scored another. The French, on the other hand, were uninspiring, and are no chance of winning the final. (Sorry Xtian)

As far as the send off itself goes, the referee was abiding by the letter of the law, but I felt that a yellow card would have been sufficient as there was absolutely no malice in the tackle. Such decisions ruin matches, and that was the case in this particular game. Referee Alain Rolland has a French father an Irish mother and lives in Ireland, but I don't think he should set foot in Wales any time soon :o <*<

Peter.
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: Xtian29 on October 15, 2011, 10:24:20 pm: Hello

I fully agree with you, and as I said the welsh deserve to win. Sport is also a question of luck and Welsh don't have that time with so many shots I do not agree with you about the re
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: Peter Fitness on October 15, 2011, 10:28:44 pm: Quote from: xtian29 on October 15, 2011, 10:24:20 pm
I do not agree with you about the ref

I'm sure you wouldn't, Xtian, but the 65,000 Welsh supporters who watched the game on big screens in the Millennium Stadium, Cardiff, probably would agree with me O0 :-)

Peter.
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: hopeitfloats on October 15, 2011, 10:44:24 pm: tonights game is the true final. hopefully the AB's wont do their usual choke but even if they do at least we can claim a win in that the aussie coach is a kiwi and a cantab at that. :-)) in the opinion of a lot of kiwis, deans should be the AB coach anyway. especially after the grahan henry ' judge me on my results' fiasco of the last cup.
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: Xtian29 on October 15, 2011, 11:15:10 pm: Hello

I was not supporting French or Welsh this morning (european time), it was the same for me if the winner is Welsh or French. In my mind I'm mostly Kelt and my name is old welsh, this morning the good play was welsh only the luck was french ... and luck is part of the game...

I almost fully agree with you (except referee decision), as I also said before, the welsh deserve to win. Luck is also part of sport and Welsh don't have luck that time with so many bad shots at goal and try not converted. On the other hand the only french actions are these 3 drops ... Believe me no one in France is happy with this game : some time only the result is nice

One thing is about the de referee decision, yes this is the letter of the law. I think it's not nice to think about because his father is french and so on ... It's like an insult to talk like that about a referee. In the past this referee have always applied this law with red card and it was the case last february with the French Florian Fritz. This referee was many time on the 6 nations cup without any talking like that !

Then talking about the law is not a good way to play, the law is supposed to be well known and must be applied - I used to play rugby when I was young and is was an important point. By the way as I said, playing with only 14 : Welsh score the only try of the game, really they deserve to win ...

Now I'm really affraid for the final {:-{ . If it's versus Australia we have a chance with the 16th player as all Kiwi in stadium will support French :embarrassed:

French best enemies are the Rosbeef (french nickname for the English - like Froggies on the other way) and the best kiwi enemies are the Australians <*< So : French and NZ are like friend versus English or Australian :}

Anyway wait the NZ/Australia game !!! (Tomorrow morning her in Europe)

Xtian
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: pugwash on October 15, 2011, 11:44:39 pm: Before the match started I was rooting for France but after that decision to send off Warburton even I was supporting Wales.
I follow rugby all through the season and though the tackle was not the best I have seen just a bad get off with
a blast from the ref or at worst a yellow card. the problem was the legs were lifted above the hips though in this case only just.
I dont think Wayne Barnes or most of the other refs would have sent him off and it really spoiled the match.
The better side certainly did not win.

Geoff
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: Xtian29 on October 16, 2011, 12:13:53 am: Yes the better side certainely did not win.

But I don't want to blame the refereee, the law is the law and must be applied properly - Then the welsh play was better but such a the bad luck with so many shots to goal and the try not converted - really bad luck as welsh were the best team on the stadium.

Xtian
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: Peter Fitness on October 16, 2011, 04:37:14 am: Quote from: xtian29 on October 15, 2011, 11:15:10 pm
I think it's not nice to think about because his father is french and so on ... It's like an insult to talk like that about a referee.

Xtian, please don't misunderstand me, I was not suggesting that the referee was biased in any way, I just think that he was too strict in his application of the rules.
He also missed some very obvious infringements, most notably when a Welsh player played the ball with his hands while on the ground after being tackled, not once but twice. He then awarded a penalty to Wales when it should have gone to France. He also made a number of other decisions which were "puzzling" to say the least.

Now the big question - who will win between Australia and New Zealand? Australia won the last time these two teams played, but have a bad record against the All Blacks at Eden Park. My heart says Australia, but my head says New Zealand :(( Both teams have injuries to key players but, as Xtian says, most of the crowd will be supporting the home team, and that's a big advantage. Australia is capable of winning, but I am not at all confident that they can. We will know in a few hours.

Peter.
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: hopeitfloats on October 16, 2011, 09:12:24 am: 5 - 0 to AB's at the moment. 9 mins. gone. please feel free to say if you dont want or need score updates.
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: hopeitfloats on October 16, 2011, 09:51:43 am: 14 - 6. half time
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: DickyD on October 16, 2011, 09:53:34 am: Quote from: hopeitfloats on October 16, 2011, 09:12:24 am
5 - 0 to AB's at the moment. 9 mins. gone. please feel free to say if you dont want or need score updates.

C'mon mate we do have TV over here now you know.(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/498_sml.jpg)
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: hopeitfloats on October 16, 2011, 10:13:26 am: believe it or not i did know that. just didnt know if you were getting it live hence asking if anyone wanted to know the score
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: Xtian29 on October 16, 2011, 10:48:03 am: Hello

Humm ... The blacks are 2011 world champion : ou alors on a le cul bordé de nouille ok2

Xtian
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: DickyD on October 16, 2011, 10:48:14 am: 20-6

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Title: Re: France 19
Post by: Peter Fitness on October 16, 2011, 09:43:16 pm: The All Blacks outplayed Australia in every department of the game, and the 20-6 scoreline flatters the Wallabies. New Zealand is a complete team, their attack, defence, kicking, ball handling and general strategy is on a different level to other teams, and I think France will be completely overwhelmed in the final.

Go the All Blacks :embarrassed: O0

Peter.
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: DickyD on October 16, 2011, 11:15:01 pm: Quote from: Peter Fitness on October 16, 2011, 09:43:16 pm
The All Blacks outplayed Australia in every department of the game, and the 20-6 scoreline flatters the Wallabies. New Zealand is a complete team, their attack, defence, kicking, ball handling and general strategy is on a different level to other teams, and I think France will be completely overwhelmed in the final.

Go the All Blacks :embarrassed: O0

Peter.
Steady on Peter, you are becoming to sound like a Pomme, not what we expect from an Aussie.

Still I think you are right, I'm sure the All Blacks can beat a team whose national insignia includes a chicken.

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/image.gif) (http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/image2.jpg)
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: irishcarguy on October 17, 2011, 06:19:34 am: Hi guys, I was watching at 3 am in the morning just after the Korean F 1 race( Vettel just drove away from the rest, he is quite brilliant & the best since Senna) I had forgotton what a great game Rugby is. I agree the AB's were by far the better team in all departments & deserved to win. They will not be stopped in the final. Mick B.
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: Peter Fitness on October 17, 2011, 06:29:17 am: Quote from: DickyD on October 16, 2011, 11:15:01 pm
Steady on Peter, you are becoming to sound like a Pomme, not what we expect from an Aussie.
Still I think you are right, I'm sure the All Blacks can beat a team whose national insignia includes a chicken.

{-) {-)

Richard, as Australia is out of the Cup, I will support our Tran Tasman cousins who, I believe, can beat any team at the moment, regardless of its emblem. New Zealand is a small country, with a population similar to that of Sydney or Melbourne, but they produce great Rugby players (and race horses).

Peter.
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: irishcarguy on October 17, 2011, 08:22:18 am: Hi Peter the Irish are the best with race horses, you heard it here first LOL. Mick B.
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: Marks Model Bits on October 17, 2011, 01:22:04 pm: Roll on the 6 Nations now, revenge will be sweet!!

If Wales field roughly the same squad who would want to bet against a Welsh Grand Slam win!

Mark.
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: BarryM on October 17, 2011, 04:16:01 pm: RE. Wales v. France.

"The letter of the law" which has been quoted also permitted a Yellow Card for the alleged offence or none at all.

Common sense says that instead of immediately jumping in with both feet and whipping out the Red Card the Ref should have consulted with the Line Judges and seen a video replay before coming to a decision that had such a major effect on the game. I noted at least two similar incidents in the Oz v. Kiwi match and they went unremarked by the Ref.

Finally, whoever thought they could put a half-French Ref into that game without causing controversy needs their head examining. The standard of reffing is often poor and you have to question if some appointments are political and made just to keep particular RU's happy.

Barry M
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: pugwash on October 17, 2011, 04:36:07 pm: Barry I agree with most of what you say except about a half frenchman in charge. Alain Rolland has been a frequent ref at Leicester Tigers especially
during the Heineken Cup. He isn't popular because he can be really pernickity and he never seems to have any idea what is going on in the scrums
but you could never call him biased towards the french teams.
I don't think they will have him reffing in Wales for the foreseeable future though.
Geoff
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: BarryM on October 17, 2011, 04:55:50 pm: Geoff,

I'm not saying that Rolland is biased %) just that putting him in charge of that game immediately laid him open to the charge. A bit more thought on the ref scheduling would have avoided this.

If Sam Quade turned to reffing and was put in charge of a NZ/Aus game ............ :o :o :o

Cheers,

Barry M
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: BarryM on October 17, 2011, 07:21:32 pm: Sorry, Senior Moment

Paul Quade = Quade Cooper

BM
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: Peter Fitness on October 17, 2011, 10:34:41 pm: I would not accuse Alain Rolland of bias, (I don't believe any top class referee is biased), but I agree with Geoff that he is not a good referee. It seems to me that referees from different countries have different interpretations of the rules, which is extremely confusing for players and spectators alike. Scrums are a lottery, and many times referees seem to see what no one else does, mentally flip a coin and give a penalty, the reason for which is incomprehensible to everyone else.

Before the World Cup started, a journalist in one of our major national papers had a wish list for the competition. One of the items on his list was that all the referees' whistles be confiscated by customs officers at the airport :-) Unfortunately his wish did not come true <:(.

Peter.
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: Xtian29 on October 17, 2011, 10:45:20 pm: Quote
Before the World Cup started, a journalist in one of our major national papers had a wish list for the competition. One of the items on his list was that all the referees' whistles be confiscated by customs officers at the airport Unfortunately his wish did not come true .

(http://nsa21.casimages.com/img/2011/10/17/111017115313315746.gif) (http://www.casimages.com)

Then we can this sport free fighting ?

Xtian
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: Peter Fitness on October 23, 2011, 09:38:20 pm: Well, the Rugby World Cup has been run and won, and the red hot favourite got home....just. I could not believe the difference in the French side compared to their earlier performances, they were magnificent O0 In previous matches France looked very ordinary, and were extremely lucky to beat Wales to get to the final. I honestly thought that the All Blacks would win by 20 or more points, but Thierry Dusautoir's men proved me wrong, and the Kiwis were lucky to get the prize. Having said that, however, New Zealand was consistently the best team throughout the tournament and are worthy winners.

Australia had to be content with Bronze, after beating a plucky Wales, although the score did not reflect the difference in the two teams. One of Wales' tries was from such a blatant forward pass that even the Welsh were surprised that it was allowed, then Australia was pulled up for a pass which was ruled forward even though it clearly went a metre backwards. These and other decisions reinforced what most Rugby fans already new, that referee Wayne Barnes is not competent to officiate at such a high level, something he has demonstrated on many occasions.

Congratulations New Zealand :-))

Peter.
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: brianB6 on October 24, 2011, 02:20:39 am: Bring on the Quiddich World Cup. %%
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: BarryM on October 24, 2011, 11:14:11 am: Peter,

It's not just Wayne Barnes that needs to come under scrutiny; there are others of equally poor judgement. I believe that referees are allocated on a per country basis for IRB political reasons and competence comes second. How you get round that easily I don't know but the supporters deserve better after paying £75+ for an international game.

Barry M
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: Xtian29 on October 24, 2011, 11:51:55 am: Hello

I fully agree with you Peter
Quote
the Kiwis were lucky to get the prize. Having said that, however, New Zealand was consistently the best team throughout the tournament and are worthy winners.

Next time in England :-)

Xtian
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: pugwash on October 24, 2011, 12:26:00 pm: Well the French surprised me - they really made a game of it, as the commentator said "it isn't a classic but totally compelling"
and on another day they may have scooped the prize
Wonder which French team will turn up for the Six Nations

Geoff
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: BarryM on October 24, 2011, 01:10:36 pm: Quote that I read today sums it up, "The Kiwis deserved to win but France made them work for it".

Barry M
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: Peter Fitness on October 24, 2011, 10:21:14 pm: Quote from: BarryM on October 24, 2011, 11:14:11 am
It's not just Wayne Barnes that needs to come under scrutiny; there are others of equally poor judgement.

I agree wholeheartedly, Barry, the standard of refereeing throughout the tournament was quite low. One of the problems with refereeing, as I see it, is that refs from different regions use different interpretations of the rules, which causes confusion to players and spectators alike.

Peter.
Title: Re: France 19
Post by: BarryM on October 24, 2011, 11:11:47 pm: Which points to a problem with the wording of the rules. If a rule has more than one interpretation the it cannot be properly drafted in the first place. Poor drafting = ambiguity.

Barry M