Model Boat Mayhem
Mess Deck: General Section => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: BFSMP on June 05, 2016, 08:40:01 pm
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just watched half an hour of the second edition of the new Top Gear, and all I can say is why does the eejit chris evans have to shout all the time, and thank god for the TT highlights after it to dilute the rubbish.
I won't be watching again.
wonder what the ratings will be next week.
I reckon Points of View would get more was it still running.
Jim.
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When Clarkson, et al took over it was terrible, it'll take time to bed in.... I have high hopes for it... as it doesn't have Hammond in it now! O0
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I understand they had to put in canned laughter to cover the grim reality of being in the audience, that was according to an audience member who watched the show when it was screened.
Never been a fan of Mr. Evans and hope this is a wake up call for the BBC, I hate to think what salary they are paying him.
Roy
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When Clarkson, et al took over it was terrible, it'll take time to bed in.... I have high hopes for it... as it doesn't have Hammond in it now! O0
The three were top Gear and the BBC should have just let it end and moved on, I can not see it lasting as long as the past presenters did.
C.E should have stuck with his various tv shows he does, and as for the Yank , nuff said..
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I can't stand Clarkson in any way shape or form . . .
Matt Le Blanc seems knowledgeable & a petrolhead ,we'll see . . .
I'd give the show a couple of weeks and see what happens . . .
Evans is out of his depth . . .
The format is the same , showing us cars we cant afford & doing stupid things with them . . .
Sabine Shmitz would've been better as lead presenter but she does the German top gear . . .
Bill
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I loathed it before and I still loath it. Why oh why can we not have a program about cars we can afford? <*<
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Clarkson and co made top gear . Remove Evens and the new TG will be ok
John
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I loathed it before and I still loath it. Why oh why can we not have a program about cars we can afford? <*<
It's called 5th gear
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It's called 5th gear
And if I remember correctly it flopped in the ratings because it didn't have the x-factor of combining excitement with facts, which the revamped Top Gear with Clarkson achieved.
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The old Top Gear morphed from a boring middle-of-the-road car show (remember when Noel Edmonds used to be the lead presenter?) into a modern-day Three Men in a Boat where the cars were largely irrelevant. Folk watched it more for the interplay between the three middle-aged delinquents - a bit like Last of the Summer Wine for petrolheads. It was slickly scripted and very well edited. Like him or loathe him, Clarkson made the show what it became. James May came over as a slightly geeky old duffer while Richard Hammond was the yapping little dog you just wanted to kick. All clever stuff and very successful - until JC started to believe his own publicity. They are all very rich men and I've no doubt that their Amazon Prime adventures will be even more lucrative, if nothing like as widely viewed.
I see that Matt LeBlanc is more popular with viewers than Chris Evans is and it's not difficult to see why. He personifies 21st century American TV "cool" while Evans is a loudmouthed yahoo from 90's radio and TV with far more money than his talent warrants. The trailers alone convinced me that TG2 was doomed from the start, and I can't see the Beeb selling it around the world like TG1. Liz has my permission to shoot me if she ever finds me watching it!
DM
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The whole thing about programmes like TopGear is the cars we all dream about owning, the mainstream boring stuff we can afford and do drive everyday you can go see, touch and test drive at your local dealerships.
Admittedly the new programme's lead presenter has the ideal face for radio and that's where he should stay the scriptwriters shouldn't give the carrot top similar lines to Clarkson then people would be less inclined to draw a compariso , leBlanc has a wooden charm about him and his ignorance of British ways and the language divide is quite endearing.
I shall watch it again next week, hopefully it will get better if Chris EVans ever gets over his childish over acting excitable self and realises he's not Clarkson.
Besides for a Sunday evening telly it was the best of a bad bunch.
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I loathed it before and I still loath it. Why oh why can we not have a program about cars we can afford? <*<
As said above 5th Gear might fill that need, though I doubt it (gave up on it some time ago).
However things have changed hugely since the days of the original TG. Cars are largely commodities or tools and few people would watch a purely factual programme about them - would you watch a programme about domestic appliances? (No, The Gadget Show doesn't count :-) )
So a 'car' programme audience is likely to be petrol heads and/or people seeking entertainment. Whether you (or anybody for that matter) happened to like JC and co, they hit the right buttons and the BBC are trying to keep that going. Shame CE persuaded them he was the man for it.
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I agree that C.E. has the face for radio but I think that he may be too tall.
Roy
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I never liked the original series. Overpaid nutters doing irresponsible stunts in expensive cars.
No intention of watching the new series. Can't see it lasting long.
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I loathed it before and I still loath it. Why oh why can we not have a program about cars we can afford? <*<
'cos then Barry it would as boring as watching paint dry. (I was going to say "hell" but on second thoughts, that could be quite interesting) What's needed is aspiration 'yer know if I work hard enough, con dealers into thinking that I'm famous just for being famous, defraud the state or the shareholders, I too can have one of these to make lots of smoke and demonstrate what a little willie I have.
I the meantime I'll just have to make do with my Volvo diesel estate (a wonderful work horse BTW) and putting the TR6 back on the road and drooling over an XJS drophead.
I can't stand that ginger nut at he best of times either, but the Yank wasn't to bad, I have to admit though that's only after the first half hour last week.
LB
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It's called 5th gear
and it's as boring as watching paint dry.
Jim.
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drooling over an XJS drophead.
I wouldn't recommend drooling too much, it will rust & fall to pieces.. {-) {-) {-)
As for the new Top Gear, watched 5 minutes of the first one, that was more than enough of "Shouty Evans"..
Paul
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Could be worse
Could have been Ant & Dec :P
Ned
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www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36458510
Lost a third of its audience between the 2 episodes , Evans trying to say they've more views using catch up is something that cannot be independently checked and I think the BBC knows this is a disaster , personally I can see this being the last series and it'll be stopped until the 3 old dodgers contract with Amazon ends when I fully expect them to be taken back to restart TG once again ( it earns the BBC far too much money for anything else to happen )
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But will they go back, I bet they get more at Amazon than they would at the Beeb
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But will they go back, I bet they get more at Amazon than they would at the Beeb
I can't imagine a likely scenario that would get them back there. And I think it would be a mistake for either party to attempt it. Too much history, the BBC being 'changed', TG in this form reaching its use by date, ...
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I have watched both programmes of the new series will give it one more try before making my mind up. Not impressed with Matt so far :o
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On the other hand, how many of us liked the old Top Gear?! {:-{
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On the other hand, how many of us liked the old Top Gear?! {:-{
I did, 3 blokes having a mid life crisis & cocking around in cars most of us can only dream of owning..... Brilliant..
Paul..
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I certainly did, I knew perfectly well it was scripted as I had read the books. It was three blokes showing us how to have fun with cars that wasn't everyday normal :-))
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The person who is quids in over all this is Clarkson. Not only was he getting paid mega money by the BBC for appearing on TG, the production company who produces is on behalf of the Beeb is part owned by him as well! So he now gets a slice of cash via the prod company for TG even though he no longer appears!
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I did, 3 blokes having a mid life crisis & cocking around in cars most of us can only dream of owning..... Brilliant..
Paul..
I think from the revinue it generated more than you could ever imagine and that is fact not fiction.
Sadly those who didn't and in the minority.
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On the other hand, how many of us liked the old Top Gear?! {:-{
Stopped watching it after Hammonds jet dragster crash . . . someone was pushing for more & more outlandish things to do . . . . that STUPID Falklands reference No. plate in ARGENTINA could've got them shot, & the SLOPE references . . . the list just went on & on.
I do believe the same folk are doing their Amazon thing , just hope it doesn't end in a tragedy . . .
Bill
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This 'show' faintly reminded me of the misdemeanors and misadventures of the crew of HMS Troutbridge in The Navy Lark, but without any of the humour. Incompetent nerds let loose playing with expensive cars instead of warships.
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To be fair to Messrs C,H and M, the formula of Top Gear hit a sweet spot, it still is the BEEBS biggest earner so it must have been doing something right.
Evans is just a little boy trying his hardest to be heard, if he doesn't get his way the toys come out of the pram and he hits the bottle. Nice pic of him yesterday sat on the floor downing wine as the viewing figures plummeted even further, how long before he can't handle it AGAIN and go off the rails AGAIN! At least C,H and M didn't lower themselves to drinking wine in the gutter, yes one of them had a fracas with a producer and paid the price. Nothing said or filmed on TG, couldn't have been that offensive to be allowed air time on the BEEBS flagship programme, few people took a few items beyond the context it was written (rather large tongue in cheek). As usual a number of people take things to heart, I remember Whithouse banging on about morals and decency on TV, fair enough, but what about freedom of speech? If you know you will be offended by the content of a program, don't watch it, simple. But no, people like to watch things they know will offend them or offend certain people, then, and they are entitled to their opinion, complain! Why????? I don't like Eastenders, so I don't watch it.
So all in all TG1 = Brilliant.
TG2 = Pants
Love them or loathe them Clarkson and Co where funny, pure escapism from everday life,,,,, that's all it is.
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Clarkson reminds me a lot of this bloke
(http://cdns.yournewswire.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Alf-Garnett-620x350.jpg)
Both were very opinionated and sailed very close to the wind at times
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Clarkson reminds me a lot of this bloke
(http://cdns.yournewswire.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Alf-Garnett-620x350.jpg)
Both were very opinionated and sailed very close to the wind at times
difference is, although Clarkson sails close to the wind and a lot of his banter is add lib.........alf garnett [forget his real name] was scripted to say what he did by BBC script writers and he himself was of the same behaviour out side his acting roll, and both he and the script writers would today be prosecuted for racism, without a question of doubt......and how things have changed........and yet the BBC have never apologised to anyone for this appalling sitcom.
Jim.
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difference is, although Clarkson sails close to the wind and a lot of his banter is add lib.........alf garnett [forget his real name] was scripted to say what he did by BBC script writers and he himself was of the same behaviour out side his acting roll, and both he and the script writers would today be prosecuted for racism, without a question of doubt......and how things have changed........and yet the BBC have never apologised to anyone for this appalling sitcom.
Jim.
I wouldn't say it was appalling.... I rather liked it and from what I have heard is was very popular with many of our coloured friends as well
It was actually rather clever as he was almost always made to look the fool
The actor was Warren Mitchell, who has said the thing he hated most was wearing the West ham scarf as he was a Devout Spurs supporter
Anyway we digress... Back to "new" top gear
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The previous TopGear was the highlight of my T.V. week. After all the melodramatic soaps my wife watches, the testicle television that are 'reality' programmes and depressing news and Simon Cowell, TG was the only prog' I truly looked forward to and made a point of putting an hour aside for.
The cars, the stupidity and the banter, never took it too seriously just enjoyed three aging blokes doing the dumb things I could never afford to....pure escapism.
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Jim
It was Warren Mitchell, a very fine character actor, who played the central character. I can find no reference to him being as objectionable in real life, although being a Jewish, Labour-voting Spurs supporter wouldn't have endeared him to everybody.
The writer was Johnny Speight, who was born and raised in the area where the show was set (they call it Tower Hamlets these days).
The whole point of the show was that it was the character of Alf Garnett who was the racist bigot. WM was such a fine actor and Speight such a clever writer that many people believed Alf Garnett was real. Interestingly Alf's son-in-law Mike was played by Anthony Booth, whose daughter Cherie went on to marry another (in)famous 'Tony B'. That the whole joke of the program had to be explained to narrow-minded lunatics like Mary Whitehouse just made the purpose of it more relevant. It's a shame that the current EU Referendum campaign has revealed more than a few real-life Alf's still around.
There was scandal at the time about allowing Michael Bates to black-up as Rangi Ram in "It ain't 'arf hot, Mum" and Spike M's comedy "Curry and Chips" was universally vilified (deservedly so, IMHO). Another of Croft and Lloyd's classic comedies had John Inman camping it up 110% as a sales assistant in Grace Brother's store, which also played on the seaside double-entendres about Mrs Slocombe's pussy. Like Donald McGill's naughty postcards these were regarded as "British humour" and largely harmless fun. Compare the ridiculous ranting of such an obvious tyrant as Alf or the knowing silliness of McGill with the so-called "comedy" of a show like "Love Thy Neighbour". That was truly horrible. Google Rudolph Walker and Jack Smethurst for the full SP on this loathsome trash.
As you say, things have changed. These shows were of their time and probably wouldn't be commissioned now, but neither would Monty Python, Not the Nine O'Clock News or Blackadder. The BBC has never apologised for any of those either. Nor should it.
DM
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The third show's definitely better, the trip round London's mind boggling , must have been early morning, Sabine's ride in the R8 had Evan's PUKING :-)) more of that . . .
Don't write it off yet . . . . .
Bill
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Sabine's ride in the R8 had Evan's PUKING
How very entertaining that sound's. Carrot's?
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Don't write it off yet . . . . .
Bill
sorry but I did after the first episode.............bit like tripe n onions in vinegar.........like it or loathe it.....
Jim.
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sorry but I did after the first episode.............bit like tripe n onions in vinegar.........like it or loathe it.....
Jim.
But tripe and onions in vinegar cannot change its flavour. TV programme commonly do change their formula.
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Seen the first three shows and that's it for me.
Also watched the 2016 Dad's Army movie and that's in the same class(c***p).
Back to boat building!!!!!
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Gave it a chance and now liking new Top Gear. Gave it a chance and was so bored of it I was working out how they covered the modern road markings in the new Dads Army film..much disappointment ( also, how did that U-Boat get inside that little cove, tugs, bow thrusters, artistic licence??).
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Can Evans communicate without shouting, he must be driving the sound engineers mad, and can LeBlanc even communicate, evrything he says looks like its been scripted to within an inch of its life. Come on BBC, do us all a favour and bury it.
I did catch the piece on Prof. Cox and Bear last night and I think both of them looked quite embarresed, especially Bear.
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Can Evans communicate without shouting, he must be driving the sound engineers mad, and can LeBlanc even communicate, evrything he says looks like its been scripted to within an inch of its life. Come on BBC, do us all a favour and bury it.
I did catch the piece on Prof. Cox and Bear last night and I think both of them looked quite embarresed, especially Bear.
Totally DISAGREE with you , the show's improving week by week , their using cars we can AFFORD now . . . Le Blanc's style is just laid back , maybe not to your taste?
Sabine is well suited to the show & the electric car slot (? %% ) is showing what must come in the future wether we'll be able to afford them's another story . . .
Bill
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Can Evans communicate without shouting, he must be driving the sound engineers mad, and can LeBlanc even communicate, everything he says looks like its been scripted to within an inch of its life. Come on BBC, do us all a favour and bury it.
In defence of Matt LeBlanc, he is an actor and they generally do need a script. It's a fact that Clarkson and Co were much better at making their script look like it was all ad lib.
As for the Ginger Gob, he's a former commercial radio DJ and they are all irritating and loud; it's unfortunate that he happens to be the loudest and most irritating.
I suspect the Beeb might just let TG2 die quietly by delaying a decision on commissioning another series until everyone (except maybe Evans) has forgotten about it. Either that or they will cut the budget to the point where making another series isn't feasible.......at least with the reported fee that Evans is being paid.
Bring back Angela Rippon, Noel Edmonds and the Allman Brothers' "Jessica"!
DM
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It was the banter and obvious friendship between May, Hammond and Clarkson, that made Top Gear so enjoyable, IMO, the new Top Gear will never replicate that, the BBC lost a jewel and all because of Today's political correctness, and LeBlanc ! ? Ho please!
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I'm not altogether sure that Clarkson, May & Hammond actually do like each other all that much - they just work well together.
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"Sabine is well suited to the show"
Perhaps theGerman version, but i actually felt quite embarrased for her on the English version.
"In defence of Matt LeBlanc, he is an actor and they generally do need a script"
Trouble is, I never rated him as much of one of those either!!
But you're right it is NOT to my taste, and I do hope it dies a quick death rather than a slow lingering one ok2
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Sorry, I don't see that getting fired for assaulting another member of staff, when you have already been the subject of disciplinary action, is about PC. I know people who have been fired for much less than that.
It was a classical management dilema. Like the case study in management workshops, of the new boss who is insulted by an insubordinate salesman, who happens to be the company's top salesman.
Does the manger fire him? Y/N
The usual answer is yes.
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Me neither, Clarkson had a screen persona that seemed to encroach into real life while he was unable to see the difference. I feel that Mr Evans will start where Clarkson left off.
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I'm not altogether sure that Clarkson, May & Hammond actually do like each other all that much - they just work well together.
Well they liked each other well enough to stick together and leave the BBC, whether friendship or loyalty good luck to them, and who knows why Clarkson did what he did we weren't there, it always looks worse for the person who looses it no matter how much provocation they are subjected to.
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The other two realised that they were second fiddle to Clarkson so it made sense to hitch themselves to his wagon, I doubt if they could have worked with anyone else.
I used to like Clarkson once, his newspaper column was often funny and perceptive as were his car reviews but in recent years he seems to have got a bit up himself and is just recycling old stuff in a different wrapper. Such is fame.
Colin
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More like "Reverse Gear" IMO. Abandoned it after ten minutes of the first airing.
Is he worth £143,000 ? No.
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Interestingly if you read Hammond's first book leading up to his crash which almost killed him one of the first people who was there for him was clarkson. Reading the books by all three of them gives a very strong impression that they are mates otherwise they wouldn't talk and socialise in their own time.
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Either here or Fathers day
This is workforce
Ned
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Perdictv text turns wotigot into workforce >>:-( >>:-( >>:-(
Ned
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It is a sad fact that some of these personalities do start to believe their own publicity and think they're untouchable. It's a great pity that there wasn't an alternative to sacking Clarkson, offhand I can't think of one, but I think we have lost one of the best entertainment shows on the TV.
There is precious little els on unless you like football, cooking or reality shows. I don't like any of them!!!!!
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There is precious little els on unless you like football, cooking or reality shows. I don't like any of them!!!!!
I'm with you captain, :-)) why is it that the TV programmers think every sole in England is a football fanatic, we've been recording stuff and saving it so we can get away from it. >:-o
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There is precious little els on unless you like football, cooking or reality shows. I don't like any of them!!!!!
My wife is an expert at flicking through channels for forensic drama's. Did you know that by adroit channel swapping you can get 3 hours of NCIS a day, 2 hour of Criminal Minds, Bones, or Poirot, Miss Marple, Hawaii 5-0, etc. If she gets stuck there is always CSI, Midsomer Murders, Death in Paradise, a new Morse series ... Often there are so many pathologists on at the same time she is spoilt for choice.
Retreating to the workshop is the only way of avoiding dead marine autopsies.
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You forgot Silent Witness Bob :D :embarrassed: {-)
Ned
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I must have been in the workshop when that was on Ned %%
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I'm not altogether sure that Clarkson, May & Hammond actually do like each other all that much - they just work well together.
And where did you find that illuminating information, Mr Bishop.
I think that that is a misnomer on your part just to provoke discussion.
Mr. Clarkson and Mr. May didn't spend three days as a sitting vigil at the hospital where Hammond was taken after his horrendous crash, lying in a coma, just because they work well together.
Do you. Or perhaps you are privy to inside information which we would all be interested in.
Jim.
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Well said Jim :-))
Behind the scripted banter you can see
a bit of chemistry that has evolved over
the years they have worked together.
The three like to cock a snook at the
establishment and it shows.
Ned
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No need to get ratty BFSMP, I just read the papers that's all and there have been hints from time to time that they are not always just one big happy family. As close colleagues I would expect them to look out for each other anyway. I'm not that interested either way as I don't watch the programme. I did enjoy James May's recent mini series on reassembling things though.
Colin
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There is precious little els on unless you like football, cooking or reality shows. I don't like any of them!!!!!
I'm with you captain, :-)) why is it that the TV programmers think every sole in England is a football fanatic, we've been recording stuff and saving it so we can get away from it. >:-o
thank goodness for free view. I can watch new tricks and Dalzeil and Pasco any time over football lol.
Jim.
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I just read the papers that's all
Ahhh, I have wondered where you glean all you infinite wisdom and knowledge from, and you BELIEVE what is written in the newspapers then, Mr Bishop.
Fair enough, but I stopped reading fiction and fantasy many years ago. I believe there is more truth in the Dandy and Beano. ha ha ha!
By the way, I am far too old to get "ratty"
Jim.
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I just knew you would say that Jim, and so you did! No, of course I don't believe everything I read in the papers, my Dad never let me read the Dandy or Beano, it was Eagle or nothing. If you stopped reading fiction and fantasy years ago then you've missed an awful lot I'm afraid, including Terry Pratchett.
You are very kind to attribute infinite wisdom and knowledge to me but I'm afraid I still have some way to go yet. I still trail well behind Inertia. However if you do read a lot then you pick up a lot, most of it probably useless but interesting nonetheless and sometimes useful in answering people's questions.
Colin
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I just knew you would say that Jim, and so you did!
I just hate to disappoint people, was brought up that way.
Jim.
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BBC: Top Gear: How much do overnight TV ratings matter?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36487069
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BBC: Top Gear: How much do overnight TV ratings matter?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36487069 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36487069)
I have to agree with the article, in that a lot of viewers are watching programmes using on demand streaming, or catch up programmes. And some types of programming are getting a lot of viewers that do not show up in the current system of overnight (live TV) ratings.
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There is an alternative to new TG......I have started watching older editions of Fifth Gear, and although it is a car programme in essence, they do have some fun and natural exuberance, and far far better than the new tg............sadly not the fun of the old trio, but easy to watch without the screaming idiocy of evans the eejit.
Jim.
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I quite like the new Top Gear.... anything with Hammond is a good thing!
Yes, everything Matt LeBlanc sounds scripted, but at least it's well scripted!
Eddie Jordon, of whom I quite respect in F1... is just a puppet idiot is this show! >:-o
Yesterdays review of the new Rolls Royce 'Dawn' was quite well done I thought.
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It seems as though young Mr Evans (50) is still having trouble in growing up to be a real live boy, but being petulant and self-absorbed has always been his hallmark https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1342259/get-chris-evans-off-top-gear-or-im-out-warns-friends-star-leblanc/ (https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1342259/get-chris-evans-off-top-gear-or-im-out-warns-friends-star-leblanc/)
I can't seem to find anyone refuting this story, despite the fact that it's in The Sun. Maybe they got it right this time? Who knows?
Who cares?
DM
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I followed the link, scrolled down the comments. Liked the one about "has a face for radio".
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My wife asked if someone has a tight grip on CE's scrotum?
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There is an alternative to new TG....
Jim.
There certainly is...it's called an 'on/off button'.
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BBC: Chris Evans stepping down from Top Gear!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36707266
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I dunno. First Cameron, then Bojo, then Nigefarge - now The Big Red Gob. Must be something in the air.
Are you sniffing it yet, Jezza? %)
DM
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Give it 1 more season, then it will be gone..
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Give it 1 more season, then it will be gone..
I read somewhere today that the US version has been cancelled.
As to the UK one ... if they move it a little bit further away from the CMH format, then with the current presenter's (less CE of course) I think there might be life in it still.
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We will see but I doubt the BBC will keep throwing money at it
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We cant jezza have the right tory ******* back he over stepped the mark , who the hell did he think he was.
>:-o >:-o >:-o >:-o >:-o
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We cant jezza have the right tory *******
I actually can't understand what you are saying in that sentence.
could you please expand on it.
Jim,
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Allow me to attempt a translation for you, Jim:
I think "Jezza" in this case refers to Clarkson, who is a Tory supporter and allegedly has other unpleasant personal habits (hence the *******). Mr Cook doesn't think that thumping a production assistant over a small matter like cooked food could be described as reasonable and so he should not be invited to return to host the program.
As an example of correct grammar, syntax and punctuation it certainly wasn't one of the best (more like throwing Scrabble tiles up in the air and writing down what they say when they land), but I have seen worse on Internet forums... 8)
Bon voyage, Mr Evans! Now you have more time to spend with your money, your ego and your Ferrari collection.
DM
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Thank you for the translation Dave.
I had been listening to the news and politics programs all weekend and Jeremy Corbyn has been referred to by many through out some programs as Jezzer and I wondered what Jeremy Corbyn had to do with Top Gear, unless he fancies the job when he leaves the one he has at the moment.
Jim.
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Thank you for the translation Dave.
I had been listening to the news and politics programs all weekend and Jeremy Corbyn has been referred to by many through out some programs as Jezzer and I wondered what Jeremy Corbyn had to do with Top Gear, unless he fancies the job when he leaves the one he has at the moment.
Jim.
No, I saw the other three quitters mooted for the top job - Farage, Johnson and Cameron.
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It's quite simple really. Jeremy Clarkson as Prime Minister, Roy Hodgson to run the Labour Party, Chris Evans to take over UKIP, Boris Johnson as England Football Manager and David Cameron for Top Gear. That just leaves Jeremy Corbin. Any Ideas?
John
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Milk monitor.
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Milk Monitor >>:-(
He would be skimming off the cream {-)
Ned
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Jeremy Clarkson as Prime Minister, we could do worse and probably will. %% {-) {-)
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Steady on, chaps! This is creeping inexorably towards politics and we don't want to spoil a perfectly good model boat forum with ordure like that.
The consensus seems to be that The Great Ginger Gob doesn't need replacing and that the current team can do better without an obvious front man. I might even be tempted back (as long as Liz is out of the house, that is....) :o
O - and put The Stig back in the dump.
DM
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We could replace Matt LeBlanc with Jensen Button. Now that would be a really good line up.
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I would replace Matt LeBlanc with someone who knew something about the subject they were talking about instead of clearly reading it from an autocue. %%
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I would replace the whole silly programme with something of more interest, like model boats. I am sure we could find many genuinely interesting and authoritative experts to bring the subject alive for the general public.
Suggestions please O0
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Despite what I said above I think it's probably time to acknowledge that Top Gear WAS Clarkson, May and Hammond and that the cars were of secondary importance. Take away the three of them and you have nothing left except a procession of eye-wateringly expensive cars, a dumb geezer in a full-face racing helmet and an empty airfield. Retaining the same old format and just changing the faces will eventually result in something along the lines of 'Last of the Summer Wine on Wheels'.
Kill it before another series is commissioned; send Matt Blancmange back to the USA and let's have some original thought. O0
Bob
You cannot be serious! :o :o
DM
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Bob
You cannot be serious! :o :o
DM
I was, and was thinking of you and Martin to head the new 'boating' line up :-))
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Bob
You cannot be serious! :o :o
DM
Episode three Sanding
Episode four Extra Sanding
Episode five priming
Episode six more sanding
Episode seven first coat
Episode eight watch first coat dry
Yeah Rivetting stuff :D :D :D
Ned
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Episode three Sanding
Episode four Extra Sanding
Episode five priming
Episode six more sanding
Episode seven first coat
Episode eight watch first coat dry
Yeah Rivetting stuff :D :D :D
Ned
lol. I'm falling asleep already.
Jim.
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A regular slot could be part works, like - You know who builds the Bismark. ok2
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Didnt the Germans build the Bismark ?
Ned
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Didnt the Germans build the Bismark ?
Ned
TIGERTIGERS little dig a bit subtle eh? (MARTIN <*< )
Bill :P
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Martin is not a German :D
Ned
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Martin is not a German :D
Ned
Oh. Is he not royalty?
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A Series on Model boats would fit into the new phenomenon of Slow TV. I am sure that some of the closet modelling celebs could be persuaded to contribute to add an extra incentive to watch.
I can see 'Modellers World' rekindled for the modern age.
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Who do you think would make good presenters for the next series?
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Episode three Sanding
Episode four Extra Sanding
Episode five priming
Episode six more sanding
Episode seven first coat
Episode eight watch first coat dry
Yeah Rivetting stuff :D :D :D
Ned
Painting is Stavros' department. I just do soldering, but not quite so much of it these days. ok2
DM
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Who do you think would make good presenters for the next series?
The only way it will ever succeed is if they move to a completely new format, with new presenters and most importantly a new name!
As for the Model Boats show.... I think if you didn't limit it to boats, so include model railways, RC planes etc then it could be a possibility.
I think James May would be good for something like this as he does have a genuine interest in these kind of things.
Maybe also Martin Clunes.... A very accomplished woodworker
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The Radio man's gone , the presenter's that's left are more than capable of doing the show properly.
As someone posted earlier "TOP GEAR" was really the JEREMY / JAMES / & richard show . . .
A Modelers show ? Don't think that would take off these day's , you haven't got the people that could do a proper job , from the dim & distant past I remember Vic Smeed / Bob Symes Shuman and a couple more doing a sterling job , all gone now alas.
Bill
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You would think that a Model Show on Tv wouldn't work but last night I was astounded to see Trainspotting Live on the BBC!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03xx9tx (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03xx9tx)