Model Boat Mayhem
Sales, Wants & TRADERS => Traders Section => Topic started by: gingyer on February 19, 2017, 11:49:52 pm
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Hi All,
A couple of friends and I got together and have pulled our resources and decided to sell hulls from our collection of moulds.
we set up a Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/alba.mouldings (https://www.facebook.com/alba.mouldings)
we are a small time operation and are doing this for getting more "modelling tokens" for other models %)
if you are interested in anything we have please get in touch :-))
1:96 scale USS Arizona
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0172_zpsclnh0pc0.jpg) (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/gingyer/media/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0172_zpsclnh0pc0.jpg.html)
1:96 USS Iowa
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0162_zps0c7v7f7u.jpg) (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/gingyer/media/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0162_zps0c7v7f7u.jpg.html)
1:96 USS North Carolina
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0166_zps5voqfmcf.jpg) (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/gingyer/media/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0166_zps5voqfmcf.jpg.html)
1:96 USS South Dakota
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0177_zpsmog4b7ga.jpg) (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/gingyer/media/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0177_zpsmog4b7ga.jpg.html)
1:96 USS Atlanta
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0197_zps7z22vsod.jpg) (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/gingyer/media/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0197_zps7z22vsod.jpg.html)
1:96 USS Brooklyn
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0201_zpsapv8uder.jpg) (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/gingyer/media/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0201_zpsapv8uder.jpg.html)
1:96 USS San Fransisco
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0181_zpsynyvpr9u.jpg) (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/gingyer/media/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0181_zpsynyvpr9u.jpg.html)
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The reason We did a Facebook page was that it was free and also easy as I have no idea how to do a website.
Hopefully as we update the faceache site we can also update on forums such as this :-))
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So you are going to NEED a Stand at the Blackpool model show then aren't you
Dave
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OH for heavens sake lads and lasses WHY are YOU trashing a traders thread....so if you dont like FB then simply get over it....NOW LETS GET BACK ON TRACK HERE.
Those look like great hulls Ginger
Dave
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So you are going to NEED a Stand at the Blackpool model show then arnt you
Dave
Never miss an opportunity .. lol
Nice one Dave.
Colin / Alba Mouldings ... Nice hulls.
Welcome to the internet ... lol
Pity we couldn't all see the hard work done and opportunity you are offering the modeler ....
Best of luck in your venture!
Regards,
Kim
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Topics about Facebook removed.
The thread is about Alba Mouldings NOT Facebook.
Bob
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Thanks everyone, what I will do is post over the next few days the pictures if the hulls.
Dave I will speak to you at ellesmere regarding Blackpool :-))
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You need some tug hulls !!!
See you at Elsmere
Dave
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Give me a break.
There are more of us out there not using facebook than there is.
My valid point was and is, unless I join facebook I cannot view this traders prices, availability, etc without first joining facebook.
Whereas if they were on the internet it is available to ALL.
So as I said Give me a break. I am still on thread about what is available and that I can't view any details.
However it is their prerogative to only want to sell to Facebook customers.
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Agreed. Surely it is a valid point that without a Facebook account you cannot see any of the images and you cannot get at a list of what is available? If Alba, Stavros etc have Facebook accounts they might not even have realised this. Facebook users seem to assume that everyone has an account.
I expect that this will be removed but hopefully Alba will have read it first.
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You can easily contact Gingyer via PM: http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=846 (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=846)
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I have Facebook,
However I don't assume that everyone else has it.
I used it to keep in touch with a friend in China.
Can you blame Alba for using FB? It's free advertisement for them and no doubt they
do not want the cost of setting up a web page
After all it's by modellers for modellers.
I'm sure a pm to any of the people involved in Alba mouldings
Would get you an email address and then perhaps they could send you a list of hulls available
Or
Maybe they could list the hulls here
And anyone interested in a hull could be sent an email with pics etc.
We wonder why model shops and independents vanish/Give them a chance to get off the ground
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Give me a break.
There are more of us out there not using facebook than there is.
My valid point was and is, unless I join facebook I cannot view this traders prices, availability, etc without first joining facebook.
Whereas if they were on the internet it is available to ALL.
So as I said Give me a break. I am still on thread about what is available and that I can't view any details.
However it is their prerogative to only want to sell to Facebook customers.
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There is about 3.2 billion people who can use the web . In the last quarter of 2016 Face Book had 1.86 billion user of 58.1% of Global internet use , Damn good I say . Mayhem has 7054 users . I think you need to check your facts . If you dont want to use Face book for what ever reason thats fine . But more and more traffic is going the way of Face Book .
John
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Those are excellent and crisp hulls and you have the benefit of a ready range. Kudos to you both and I hope you do brisk trade wherever you market them. Perhaps in the future you will do a set of turrets and major superstructure components as 'Semi kits' to further enhance your hull range.
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Those are excellent and crisp hulls and you have the benefit of a ready range. Kudos to you both and I hope you do brisk trade wherever you market them. Perhaps in the future you will do a set of turrets and major superstructure components as 'Semi kits' to further enhance your hull range.
They are Ian - as far as I can make out.... Details on their FB page O0
I am sure the guys will be along in good time to post up some images of some lovely modelling soon :-))
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Gents thanks for the replies.
As stated at the begining we are a small time operation. I am not a multi Billionaire, I am down to my last few millions so we need think smart how we spend the money. I would love to do websites and every show going but we don't have the resources so we need to think smart on how best to use the limited resources we do have. So Im sorry you feel your getting ignored but I am sure you can understand the problem we have and the decisions we made.
Can we now put the Facebook issue to bed? :-))
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thanks Carl, you beat me to replying to Ian,
Yes some parts are becoming available. with companies such as John Haynes and Shapeways, we feel it would be daft to go up against them for quality and costs.
Our ultimate goal is to be able to supply the hull, rudder and main armaments.
I will start posting some of the pictures shortly of all the bits ok2
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USS San Fransisco
Drawing of the actual ship, this was a pre-war design and rather elegant looking ship I think.
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/Alba%20mouldings/uss-ca-38-san-francisco-1944-heavy-cruiser_zpsllx698fd.png) (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/gingyer/media/Alba%20mouldings/uss-ca-38-san-francisco-1944-heavy-cruiser_zpsllx698fd.png.html)
the picture of the Hull showing the Propshaft exit points, bildge keels, portholes, armour belt all moulded in
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0181_zpsynyvpr9u.jpg) (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/gingyer/media/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0181_zpsynyvpr9u.jpg.html)
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0207_zpse7aytzoq.jpg) (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/gingyer/media/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0207_zpse7aytzoq.jpg.html)
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0183_zpszu4tncct.jpg) (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/gingyer/media/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0183_zpszu4tncct.jpg.html)
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0182_zpstc68zgbf.jpg) (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/gingyer/media/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0182_zpstc68zgbf.jpg.html)
We have also started the main 8" guns
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0330_zps2avzwmb3.jpg) (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/gingyer/media/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0330_zps2avzwmb3.jpg.html)
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0331_zpsx7i7kebz.jpg) (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/gingyer/media/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0331_zpsx7i7kebz.jpg.html)
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USS South Dakota
drawing of the actual ship
(http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo207/Teitoku_Yamamoto/uss-bb-57-south-dakota-battleship-3_zpsumimq61z.png) (http://s376.photobucket.com/user/Teitoku_Yamamoto/media/uss-bb-57-south-dakota-battleship-3_zpsumimq61z.png.html)
the hull showing the bilge keels, propshaft outlets
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0177_zpsmog4b7ga.jpg) (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/gingyer/media/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0177_zpsmog4b7ga.jpg.html)
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0179_zpsffap7s9j.jpg) (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/gingyer/media/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0179_zpsffap7s9j.jpg.html)
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0180_zpsxwsk4uns.jpg) (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/gingyer/media/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0180_zpsxwsk4uns.jpg.html)
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0209_zps3rinfmiz.jpg) (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/gingyer/media/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0209_zps3rinfmiz.jpg.html)
Some of the superstructure parts
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0332_zpscyc6y8or.jpg) (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/gingyer/media/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0332_zpscyc6y8or.jpg.html)
The South Dakota class has the funnel and the mast coming from it
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0333_zpsui3l28tg.jpg) (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/gingyer/media/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0333_zpsui3l28tg.jpg.html)
the indentations show where catwalks and stair ways are
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0338_zpsqx7jh3rr.jpg) (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/gingyer/media/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0338_zpsqx7jh3rr.jpg.html)
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USS Atlanta
Drawing of the original ship, these ships were designed after seeing the British Dido class %)
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa471/Ariecho/Atlanta/1_zps171f648b.png) (http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Ariecho/media/Atlanta/1_zps171f648b.png.html)
the hull showing Bildge keels, propshaft exits and armoured belt
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0197_zps7z22vsod.jpg) (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/gingyer/media/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0197_zps7z22vsod.jpg.html)
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0198_zpsgmfdn7ag.jpg) (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/gingyer/media/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0198_zpsgmfdn7ag.jpg.html)
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0199_zpsmmrabsmr.jpg) (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/gingyer/media/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0199_zpsmmrabsmr.jpg.html)
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0205_zps2qimw5ex.jpg) (http://s251.photobucket.com/user/gingyer/media/Alba%20mouldings/IMG_0205_zps2qimw5ex.jpg.html)
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Some very tidy work on those hulls guys!!! Very impressed that you managed to mould in the bilge keels and not have them break off when removing the hull from the mould.
Very best of luck with trying to recoup your investments :-)) - those hulls are a good start for a lovely model.
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Very impressed that you managed to mould in the bilge keels and not have them break off when removing the hull from the mould.
to be honest so are we :}
some of the hulls had some slight bubbles alone the edges, nothing a small bit of filler can't put right.
for future hulls we are seriously considering going back to the old fashioned way of a bare hull......
thanks Carl for the nice comments :-))
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As long as you use chopped ends available from Glassplies in 4kg boxes in there it will be fine you shouldnt really then get voids....we used to use this on any area that was tight on rally bits
Dave
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Thanks Dave :-))
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Gelcoat as normal......spread resin as a normal lay up.....sprinkle loads of chopped into void....stipple down...repeat then lay up as normal.....if you really worried about it....use the old 1oz matt well soaked in resin before the usual lay up....if you do it right then you wont get any extra heat build up in the mould
Dave
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Hi ya gingyer
The mould for the USS South Dakota is it a 3-way Split Mould? As I noticed, as well as protrusions, such as the bilge keel and the prop-shafts there are also recesses along the deck edge - just out of curiosity that's all - as the mouldings themselves, going by the photographs, look like they have been moulded by professional laminators. I cant see any evidence of any resin rich areas on the bottom of the mouldings in the areas of the bilge keels.
The only thing that does concern me - is - if you have a good team of laminators, who are building their experiences up - try to avoid moulding on items such as the bilge keels to the moulds, due to 2 facts - one that has already been explained i.e. pure resin has the habit of chipping and breaking off easily - the other one is that polyester resins tend to shrink a lot, when they have no glass structure behind them to support. So, you may find (if the bilge keels are pure resin) you may get distortion there over a period of time.
Long time ago when working in the moulding industry, we used to spray, using a fibre glass chopped spray gun and this gun was fed by roll material - that is chopped up by the machine and sprayed on to mould. One of the cheats we used to do, if we had a tight area such as you have in the bilge keel would be to (after the gel coat had set) put a small layer of tissue in - gently stippled into the area; then roll some of this chopped strand up from the machine into a string and lay that into the area - then wet out with resin. I have had a look at the website for fibre glass based here in South Shields and they now supply a string which might help you out. I noticed that the price of the roll for the machine is a bit on the pricey side, compared to the string. Somehow, though, looking at these mouldings; I am trying to teach me granny how to suck eggs here :-)
https://www.ecfibreglasssupplies.co.uk/category/cloth-fabric-and-tapes
John
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thanks John :-))
every little tip helps
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I think your work is up there with the established companies, and your efforts to supply the superstructure units for customers to detail is a big thumbs up, as this makes the build a lot easier as we can then concentrate on making detailed bits. I completely appreciate you are on a budget and remember the experience when trying to set up a couple of ranges in the last twenty years, you have to make sure your outgoings do not eat more than your income even if you are ploughing it back into the company.
The Atlanta is fun, How many turrets can you stack up on one hull!
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thanks for the kind words :-))
The superstructure for the South Dakota mast has been cut where there is a deck level, to make it easier for building.
hopefully this will aid the builder
The Atlanta.... %)
8 Twin 5" guns, but they were top heavy...... so later ships were cut down to 6 Twin 5" guns <:(
We have built a master 5" gun too, but I am unsure best way to proceed with this at the moment so have stopped to think about it.
If we made it just out of a big lump of resin then we have a weight issue, not a problem for the battleships but the Atlanta we need to be careful.
yes the buyer could core it out but think of the waste, hassle and DUST (its bad enough to have our better half moaning about a wee but of dust {-) {-) )
The other option which I am looking to explore a bit further is using a light weight GRP structure with a resin base, but this is all to be thought out further before proceeding
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Manufacturers of resin military model kits manage to cast hollow hulls and (on larger scale kits) turrets so it is definitly possible to hollow cast such things. One method you could try that does not require resin injection systems is to sluch cast turrets. You make a two part mould that effectively has no ingate and you pour an amount of resin deemed enough to give a thick enough skin to the whole item in and then roll the mould in all directions so the resin coats all surfaces. If you can make a simple automated system to do this for you then it saves standing about rotating the mould when you could be doing other things. Do not rotate it too quickly as it will encourage bubbles in the resin >:-o
If you are comfortable with using GRP then that is certainly a proven way to do it. I beleive Deans do larger turrets in GRP these days. Ron or Nick can probably tell you.
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thanks for the info :-))
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If you are comfortable with using GRP then that is certainly a proven way to do it. I beleive Deans do larger turrets in GRP these days. Ron or Nick can probably tell you.
I can confirm that Ron Dean uses GRP turrets most notably in the Dreadnought kits and as a recent upgrade to the Hannibal/Magnificent kits too. They are moulded very cleanly with a lot of detail incorporated with minimal tidying up at the base. They are a perfect mix of lightweight of the vacform principle but have the detail of resin items without the weight issue.
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Picked up this well detailed 1/48 scale Oto Melara turret in Dortmund last year, layed up with epoxy resin and fine mat, it weighs in at only 11 grams.
Might be something worth considering mate?
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/IMG_0736.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/IMG_0737.jpg)
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I know Bri, thats where I got the idea for the lightweight turret.
thanks Nick, I knew Ron does the GRP turrets what I need to do though is really watch the weights.
An Atlanta Cruiser has 8 turrets on it so CofG will come into play especially at about 68 x 6.5" its more
destroyer size