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The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Lifeboats => Topic started by: ajb63 on January 14, 2019, 11:30:48 am

Title: Tamar Cabin Colour
Post by: ajb63 on January 14, 2019, 11:30:48 am
Hi
I am building my first boat , a Modelslipway 1/16 Tamar and at a point ready to spray paint the cabin. I intend to paint the inside grey and outside VW orange. What would be the best undercoat colour for the orange cabin. Have had a bad experience with the Halfords white undercoat, which was explained in a previous post  so was thinking of grey undercoat. Does the difference in undercoat alter the final topcoat colour of VW orange . Thanks for any replies.
Not spraying until weather warms up.
Alan
Title: Re: Tamar Cabin Colour
Post by: nemesis on January 14, 2019, 04:42:43 pm
Somewhere on this site is the correct colour chart for RNLI boats, nemesis
Title: Re: Tamar Cabin Colour
Post by: Cornishman on January 14, 2019, 05:48:59 pm
    Inside should all be matt black.

Title: Re: Tamar Cabin Colour
Post by: gregk9 on January 14, 2019, 06:32:10 pm
You could also use white primer undercoat, would also give a slightly lighter/brighter shade of orange once fully painted, remember the darker the under surface, the darker the top coat. ;)
Title: Re: Tamar Cabin Colour
Post by: minimariner on January 14, 2019, 11:01:34 pm
Alan,

        Some of the Shannon builders are using Tamiya Fine Surface
        Primer L Pink under the VW Orange. Have yet to try it myself.
         
Title: Re: Tamar Cabin Colour
Post by: nemesis on January 15, 2019, 03:30:54 pm
Can you please tell me why, after spending hours building a scale lifeboat and knowing fine well that the RNLI use international / ral colours you go and use a spray can of a car colour???. The other paint is readily available.Nemesis, ex crew.
Title: Re: Tamar Cabin Colour
Post by: kinmel on January 15, 2019, 06:43:08 pm
These are the colour shades recommended by someone who sprays real lifeboats.  I and others have found they closely match the actual paints on modern lifeboats

Blue      BS 381c Oxford Blue #105
Red      BS 381c Currant Red #539

Orange   BS 381c Orange #557
p.s. There are 7 different shades of " Volkswagen Orange" and none match #557



Title: Re: Tamar Cabin Colour
Post by: Model_Slipway on January 15, 2019, 06:52:50 pm
ajb63,
In our prototype model we used Halford's yellow primer with VW Brilliant Orange.
ModSlip
Title: Re: Tamar Cabin Colour
Post by: Colin Bishop on January 15, 2019, 07:08:52 pm
I don't think it is worth getting hung up about 'accurate' shades of RNLI orange. In reality the perceived hue will differ according to ambient lighting conditions so all of the shades mentioned above would be correct depending on the lighting conditions. Plus, the colour perception of individuals can greatly differ so what you see isn't necessarily what somebody else is seeing.

Same applies to the various shades of 'warship grey'. Its appearance differs according to the lighting conditions. There is no absolute right or wrong as far as most people's visual perception is concerned. Just not worth agonising about really.

If you display your model in a show the apparent colour will depend on the colour temperature of the lighting and the extent to which your individual eyes adjust.

Colin
Title: Re: Tamar Cabin Colour
Post by: ajb63 on January 16, 2019, 08:12:57 pm
Thanks for all replies regarding undercoat colour influencing top coat colour. I intend using spray cans of VW orange for the cabin as recommended by Modelslipway and other lifeboat builders on the forum. Don't want to venture into the field of spray guns.
I will go ahead myself and test with grey/ white undercoat with final cabin colour and hope the difference is negligible. Will post results later.
Alan