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Title: Shortages 2021-Fuel and other.
Post by: warspite on September 29, 2021, 10:18:48 am
Oh - I thought hell had frozen over, since getting fuel is apparently only for the idiots who panic buy  <*<
Title: Re: Re: Jokes &amp; Humour - 2021
Post by: jaymac on September 29, 2021, 11:14:35 am
well this idiot got petrol an hour ago at Sainburys' normal queue
Title: Re: Re: Jokes &amp; Humour - 2021
Post by: Baldrick on September 29, 2021, 03:23:47 pm
There was no queue at our local Sainsbury's PFS , in fact no queue's at any local petrol stations .. No fuel either !
Title: Re: Re: Jokes &amp; Humour - 2021
Post by: warspite on September 30, 2021, 01:28:52 am
well this idiot got petrol an hour ago at Sainburys' normal queue


Your not an idiot if the fuel is needed - it's those who fill up after using less than quarter of a full tank i.e. the panic buyers
Title: Re: Re: Jokes &amp; Humour - 2021
Post by: Tug Fanatic on September 30, 2021, 09:27:12 am
Even if you exclude the idiots it makes sense in a shortage situation to run your car nearly full rather than nearly empty. I am not surprised that the mental point on the fuel gauge where you think of refuelling is now higher than it was a couple of weeks ago. If every vehicle has just 3 or 4 more gallons in it than it usually does then that alone would surely account for much of the problem. 40 million vehicles on UK roads x 3.5 gallons = 140 million gallons or nearly 16000 tanker loads.

Having said that the long fuel consuming queues that have featured in news reports are both plain daft and panic inducing.

.......and no I haven't purchased - nor tried to purchase - any fuel in the last couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Re: Jokes &amp; Humour - 2021
Post by: Del-69 on September 30, 2021, 10:03:28 am
What queue filled up today. :}
Title: Re: Re: Jokes &amp; Humour - 2021
Post by: Colin Bishop on September 30, 2021, 10:23:03 am
Quote
What queue filled up today.

Forget petrol, scour your local supermarkets for turkeys to store in your home freezer for Christmas!

Colin
Title: Re: Re: Jokes &amp; Humour - 2021
Post by: mogurnda on September 30, 2021, 10:30:58 am
Colin...

Beat you to it..... got 2 already in the freezer together with 2 of Aldi's 3 bird roasts..... not going to get caught out.
David.
Title: Re: Re: Jokes &amp; Humour - 2021
Post by: jaymac on September 30, 2021, 11:07:56 am
No prob Warspite  :-)
Title: Re: Re: Jokes &amp; Humour - 2021
Post by: Baldrick on September 30, 2021, 12:07:12 pm



   Best just put a sticky note over the fuel gauge so you don't look at it every ten seconds.
Title: Re: Re: Jokes &amp; Humour - 2021
Post by: warspite on September 30, 2021, 12:52:01 pm
I currently dont have any full bird chickens, turkeys, goose or any type of foul stored for Christmas, although that said, my kids and the lodger consume copious amounts of chicken breasts  :P


As far a fuel goes, I am running at just over half a tank having since my last fill up done dead on 300 miles (had the vision of sitting in a confessional box asking for forgiveness then), tomorrow getting to and from work will take another 40 miles and hopefully I will still not have hit the half tank mark, I am seeing if I can get 400 miles as I get to the mark, as I know that the last half of the tank will do nothing like the same distance - I think its 150 miles at the most.


As I have to put E5 in or better known as premium and the only decently priced fuel is at Tesco, then as I do 40 miles each work day that means that a week today I have to see if I can fill up then, as I should be close to the last quarter mark, I could go the remaining week but I cannot guarantee the CRISIS will be over then (had to shout that as everyone else appears to be panicking)  {-)

Martin - can we split the Topic so that fuel discussions are kept separate
Title: Re: Shortages 2021-Fuel and other.
Post by: Circlip on October 01, 2021, 10:02:55 am
Probably going to have to fill up in November, that'll be the third time this year.   O0


  Regards  Ian.
Title: Re: Shortages 2021-Fuel and other.
Post by: Howard on October 01, 2021, 10:55:44 am
Wifes doing 3 weeks to the Gallon at the moment and am doing 120 miles on my bike £10 quid's worth so no panic.
      Regards Howard.
Title: Re: Shortages 2021-Fuel and other.
Post by: Tug Fanatic on October 01, 2021, 12:25:15 pm
Probably going to have to fill up in November, that'll be the third time this year.   O0


  Regards  Ian.

Got my new MOT last week -we have done 700 miles since last year. As we are getting out groceries delivered and have been shielding we really haven't been anywhere! The office lady at the local garage said it wasn't unusual.

Thank goodness we never put the car in the garage wet and the garage is heated. That little mileage could be very bad otherwise.
Title: Re: Shortages 2021-Fuel and other.
Post by: RST on October 01, 2021, 08:26:48 pm
Got my new MOT last week -we have done 700 miles since last year. As we are getting out groceries delivered and have been shielding we really haven't been anywhere! The office lady at the local garage said it wasn't unusual.

Thank goodness we never put the car in the garage wet and the garage is heated. That little mileage could be very bad otherwise.
My Mothers Aygo was MOT'd last month, about 500 miles from last one owing to cancer treatment this past year and me just keeing it moving, did about 80miles in between last MOT last month and found the hazards lights don't work.  I actually needed them a few night ago.  I'm betting 100% they never checked them at MOT.  Our garage we've used for 40 years has gone really downhill -they're just interested in saying whats wrong these days, no way of fixing anything -everything is too difficult for them from a 23£ ball joint to a proper fix it job.  I've heard all kinds of guff from the mlast year or so.
Title: Re: Shortages 2021-Fuel and other.
Post by: raflaunches on October 01, 2021, 08:38:06 pm
I was fuming last Sunday evening after such a fantastic weekend sailing with my local club and Geoff Dixon at Wicksteed at War. I had struggled to find fuel all weekend and was down to the fuel trip saying I had 18 miles left before I was out of diesel. Eventually I found a station that had some but with a restriction of £30 per person. The first time in my career my position actually meant something as I explained to the attendant that I’m in the RAF and £30 wouldn’t be enough to get me to base if things went wrong. A quick flash of my ID to prove it I was given permission to get a full tanks worth but the looks on people’s faces seeing me brim my tank was awful wondering why I had special treatment. I’m glad they did because there is no fuel at my end and there are lads trapped on camp or miles away from work struggling to get fuel. Can’t believe how the ignorance of the morons get mess everything up so quickly. >>:-(
I couldn’t imagine the phone call to my Flight Sergeant explaining how I couldn’t get to work because I didn’t have enough fuel in this age!
Title: Re: Shortages 2021-Fuel and other.
Post by: RST on October 01, 2021, 09:47:20 pm
It's strange times when you are used to working on wellheads, manifolds and export lines and seeing the chaos at the fuel pumps.   While some pretty strange and enifficient things happen offshore, the costs are just far bigger than most can comprehand in getting fuel to the pumps at the end of the day and every single person at the fuel pumps should be darn grateful of every single drop they get.  I want to know who leaked that first report which supposedley sparked the "panick".  What ever happened to that person after the first couple of days.  It appararently wasn't a problem before that!?  I guess it's nbot a good news headline anymore.
Title: Re: Shortages 2021-Fuel and other.
Post by: Baldrick on October 02, 2021, 09:02:40 am
It's strange times when you are used to working on wellheads, manifolds and export lines and seeing the chaos at the fuel pumps.   While some pretty strange and enifficient things happen offshore, the costs are just far bigger than most can comprehand in getting fuel to the pumps at the end of the day and every single person at the fuel pumps should be darn grateful of every single drop they get.  I want to know who leaked that first report which supposedley sparked the "panick".  What ever happened to that person after the first couple of days.  It appararently wasn't a problem before that!?  I guess it's nbot a good news headline anymore.


     It was sparked off by Shell who reported to the media that they had to close some forecourts because of the driver shortage. This was picked up on by the Road Hauliers Association (RHA) who had been trying to raise awareness of the problem generally for some time and BOOM , the nitrogenous deposit hit the ventilation unit.
Title: Re: Shortages 2021-Fuel and other.
Post by: frogman3 on October 02, 2021, 09:54:03 am
HI ALL well what happened to super unleaded as thats what ive really got to put in my car as its a turbo sport injection an it says on the petrol flap use only SUPER U/L  but now in all my garages around me the petrol is U/L an ultra U/L WHY change the bloomin name  >>:-( <*< an i was lucky i filled up before this shortage started an im retired so me an the missus dont go to far longest journey was to see ma in law last wk an go the five miles or so shoppin
chris
Title: Re: Shortages 2021-Fuel and other.
Post by: BrianB6 on October 02, 2021, 10:01:47 am
Get your cleaning supplies whilst you can. Our son in law whose firm makes all sorts of cleaning and water treatment chemicals, has been waiting 9 months for some basic ingredients and is having to source them from any country that might have them.   Even hand sanitizer ingredients are affected.
Title: Re: Shortages 2021-Fuel and other.
Post by: justboatonic on October 02, 2021, 10:56:28 am
HI ALL well what happened to super unleaded as thats what ive really got to put in my car as its a turbo sport injection an it says on the petrol flap use only SUPER U/L  but now in all my garages around me the petrol is U/L an ultra U/L WHY change the bloomin name  >>:-( <*< an i was lucky i filled up before this shortage started an im retired so me an the missus dont go to far longest journey was to see ma in law last wk an go the five miles or so shoppin
chris
Your car will run on 'ordinary' unleaded. The 'only use' super unleaded is to get the best \ maximum performance out of the engine especially under harsh acceleration which if fuel is in short supply, you'd best be avoiding anyway.
As all ordinary unleaded is now E10, provided your car is post 2010, there will be no problem using E10 unleaded if premium unleaded is unavailable.
Title: Re: Shortages 2021-Fuel and other.
Post by: frogman3 on October 02, 2021, 11:45:06 am
Your car will run on 'ordinary' unleaded. The 'only use' super unleaded is to get the best \ maximum performance out of the engine especially under harsh acceleration which if fuel is in short supply, you'd best be avoiding anyway.
As all ordinary unleaded is now E10, provided your car is post 2010, there will be no problem using E10 unleaded if premium unleaded is unavailable.



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Title: Re: Shortages 2021-Fuel and other.
Post by: Colin Bishop on October 02, 2021, 05:56:04 pm
Desperate measures...
Title: Re: Shortages 2021-Fuel and other.
Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on October 02, 2021, 06:17:03 pm
 {-) {-) Ahh, good one.... O0
Title: Re: Shortages 2021-Fuel and other.
Post by: RST on October 02, 2021, 07:27:34 pm
Hi Chris, exactly what make and model of car do you have?  I'm guessing you don't have the kind of cars I used to have which really needed the higher octane fuel (high performance, turbocharged. "Regular" petrol was a no-no or you had to limp about without the turbo kicking in).  There's also a government website you can find on Google which puts all the regular make and model numbers on a database and you can check if E10 is suitable.  I checked for my mother's Aygo a few weeks back and there's literally just a couple of UK Toyota models on one or two years that won't like E10.  That said 99% of UK high performance cars will be mapped for default 95RON so to should be OK but worth checking as the info is out there.
Title: Re: Shortages 2021-Fuel and other.
Post by: Martin (Admin) on October 02, 2021, 07:47:57 pm
 
I was down to quarter tank today, hoping it would have eased off by now but here in Peterborough,
I had to go to six petrol stations before I found any diesel.... and then it was because it was cash only.... and very, very  expensive!  >:-o


Title: Re: Shortages 2021-Fuel and other.
Post by: KitS on October 02, 2021, 09:23:00 pm
Naturally some operators are cashing in on this, despite the fact that they're selling every drop they've got.


Corporate Greed Rules OK....  :((
Title: Re: Shortages 2021-Fuel and other.
Post by: warspite on October 02, 2021, 09:33:58 pm
After yesterdays trip to work, now at half a tank and 339 miles on the odometers trip meter, so on track to fill up sometime next week, the wife filled hers up today on the way home from dropping my sons girlfriend off at her sisters and they were limiting everyone to £35, her tank only took £34 and some pence before it was full so a win for her.
Title: Re: Shortages 2021-Fuel and other.
Post by: RST on October 03, 2021, 02:02:35 am

     It was sparked off by Shell who reported to the media that they had to close some forecourts because of the driver shortage. This was picked up on by the Road Hauliers Association (RHA) who had been trying to raise awareness of the problem generally for some time and BOOM , the nitrogenous deposit hit the ventilation unit.


Everything I read  from the start says it was a leak from BP.  It was brushed under the carpet after the first day or so.   Brexit to blame since apart from utter rediculous people

Title: Re: Shortages 2021-Fuel and other.
Post by: warspite on October 06, 2021, 01:44:49 am
Well took a diversion and went and had a look at the station I will be using from now on (it sells the premium E5 whereas Asda only sells the E10) a Tesco stores station, it has 8 points with 3 nozzles on each point, it had 3 cars and no pump not in use and there was no limit so I filled up 40+ litres at 1.40.9 per litre (I normally fill up at half a tank anyway), well I was under half a tank at 373 miles and the third quarter empties faster than my bank account, Just couldn't resist filling up  >>:-(
Title: Re: Shortages 2021-Fuel and other.
Post by: Circlip on October 07, 2021, 09:52:49 am
And the latest panic, Petrol prices to hike before Christmas. I can hear the screech of tyres now, let's all panic again.  :((


  Regards   Ian.
Title: Re: Shortages 2021-Fuel and other.
Post by: warspite on October 07, 2021, 04:38:34 pm
Probably as they have to pay the drivers of the tankers for all the overtime they have had to do, will be running on conservation of fuel type driving for the remainder of this vehicles life by the look of it.
 >>:-(
Title: Re: Shortages 2021-Fuel and other.
Post by: TheLongBuild on October 07, 2021, 06:30:55 pm
There was a lorry on fire on the M6 yesterday transporting Potato Waffles , so better get out there and buy some up in case there is a shortage.. %%
Title: Re: Shortages 2021-Fuel and other.
Post by: Baldrick on October 07, 2021, 07:00:08 pm
Listening to the BBC news this evening it appears that they are trying to kick start the bog roll hoarders again by saying that the coming gas supply famine will halt production of this essential commodity. Anything else they want pull our legs over  ?
Title: Re: Shortages 2021-Fuel and other.
Post by: Netleyned on October 07, 2021, 07:45:37 pm
The BBC have stopped news bulletins.
They now send out messages of doom
and gloom to help the Supermarkets
clear their shelves of overstocked
Products.
Title: Re: Shortages 2021-Fuel and other.
Post by: derekwarner on October 07, 2021, 10:44:30 pm
Next Monday [11th October] NSW in OZ is coming out of Lock-Down @ 70% double vaccination........then 80% a few weeks late


You guessed it O0  ..... fuel prices are predicted and expected to peak  >>:-(


'The Laws of fuel pricing'


1. lockdown = low demand = surplus supply, so prices must rise to maintain profitability 
2. lockdown finished = higher demand, so the surplus supply immediately becomes a shortage and so dictates that prices must rise to maintain profitability

BP [British Petroleum] , and the Royal Dutch Schell.... the real names for the Fuel Co's :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: are beyond being suitable to print


Derek....[Mum told me that shells were near the sea, so added a c to the shell]
Title: Re: Shortages 2021-Fuel and other.
Post by: Baldrick on October 08, 2021, 09:33:47 am
Something the petrol companies have not mentioned before;   Due to the changeover from E5 to E10  the fuel companies had been running down the storage being held in their on site tanks pending the change and when panic hit a lot had not been replenished . Also many of the smaller petrol stations (like two round here) have had to be taken out of commission for refurbishment as their tank and pipework seals were rubber and E10 eats rubber.