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Dry Dock / Shipyard: Builds & Questions => Yachts and Sail R&D: => Topic started by: Arrow5 on January 13, 2009, 12:46:13 PM

Title: Manned model Square Riggers
Post by: Arrow5 on January 13, 2009, 12:46:13 PM
A couple of nice sailing ship models for sale in the U.S.  Seems fair price at $6000 for the pair. Can supply vendor details if interested.
Title: Re: Manned model Square Riggers
Post by: Martin (Admin) on January 13, 2009, 12:58:17 PM
That reminds me a a yacht I saw when going to France a few years back ....

(http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/Gallery/Portsmouth/images/Portsmouth080.JPG)
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/Gallery/Portsmouth/Ferry_to_France.htm
Title: Re: Manned model Square Riggers
Post by: Arrow5 on January 13, 2009, 01:17:28 PM
The vendor of the two square riggers is launching a live-aboard "Big-un" similar to that one Martin, launch in spring.
Title: Re: Manned model Square Riggers
Post by: tigertiger on January 13, 2009, 02:14:59 PM
A couple of nice sailing ship models for sale in the U.S.  Seems fair price at $6000 for the pair. Can supply vendor details if interested.

Those are so cool.
Title: Re: Manned model Square Riggers
Post by: Colin Bishop on January 13, 2009, 02:24:44 PM
I would imagine that these boats are quite difficult to manage. Just coping with the rigging of the usual two or three sails is bad enough, not to mention that on small boats square rig is inherently less efficient than fore and aft arrangements.

OK if they are just a bit of fun but not practical for serious boating.

Colin
Title: Re: Manned model Square Riggers
Post by: tigertiger on January 13, 2009, 02:52:02 PM
I would imagine that these boats are quite difficult to manage. Just coping with the rigging of the usual two or three sails is bad enough, not to mention that on small boats square rig is inherently less efficient than fore and aft arrangements.

OK if they are just a bit of fun but not practical for serious boating.

Colin

Probably why they are for sale.

I am sure that lying/sitting on the deck gets tedious. No real comfort.

Still cool though.

I would guess if you can run a boat on 3 channel RC you only need to a good pulley system to simplify the controls. But even in real life square riggers were difficult. I read somewhere that many ships did not tack, it was too difficut. They would wear/ware, and this could take up to 3 miles.
I guess auxillary power is a must.
Title: Re: Manned model Square Riggers
Post by: Arrow5 on January 14, 2009, 04:21:18 PM
Another manned square rigger, in UK this time. Nelson era ship. http://festinalente.org.uk/belleisle/belleindex.html
Title: Re: Manned model Square Riggers
Post by: dreadnought72 on January 14, 2009, 04:35:18 PM
Second to burning it, that's not a bad thing to do to a GP 14...

Andy, Enterprise sailor and occasional owner since 1976ish...
Title: Re: Manned model Square Riggers
Post by: Arrow5 on January 14, 2009, 06:32:16 PM
Did you enjoy the pictures Dreadnought ? I counted about eight at the regatta.
Title: Re: Manned model Square Riggers
Post by: dreadnought72 on January 15, 2009, 10:05:02 AM
Very much - it'd be interesting indeed to see a group of them attempting fleet manouvres.

Andy NA553568B
Title: Re: Manned model Square Riggers
Post by: Jimmy James on April 16, 2009, 08:26:03 PM
Never sailed a mini square rigger but have bin on a lot of full size ones... I think because the sails are so small ( Main sail isn't much rarger than a large bed sheet) and the sail area is broken down into small bite size chunks ,,,the spars look very light  and the rig is low that they would be fun to sail and a handy tool for teaching youngsters about real ships. The real trouble is very few people these day know any thing about sailing and handling square riggers and are frightend of them... they forget that most seamen tend to be simple, logical people and so rigged things in a simple logical way it's a differnt learning curve to Fore and Afters but these mini jobs could be great fun.
Freebooter :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Manned model Square Riggers
Post by: JMB on July 27, 2009, 07:11:33 PM
That looks brilliant fun, just my size too as I am only five foot tall! I would just love one.   :-))
Title: Re: Manned model Square Riggers
Post by: Jimmy James on July 27, 2009, 09:02:34 PM
JMB
 I need a mini cook for  my new model ! ---
1) Can you boil ice water with out burning it
2) can you cook salt beef, dried peas
3)  can you  make a plum duff using hard tack
  If you can answer yes to these questions you are hired ---wages are 2s 6d per month +all the duff you can eat AND  all the small beer and grog you can drink
Freebooter :-))
Title: Re: Manned model Square Riggers
Post by: JMB on July 27, 2009, 09:09:19 PM
I was going to say no, I don't cook but the offer of Beer and Grog is too good to turn down.  I'll take the job.  {-) ( btw, you can keep the duff)
Title: Re: Manned model Square Riggers
Post by: gondolier88 on July 27, 2009, 09:19:37 PM
Has anyone seen this replica in Whitby harbour- you can take trips on it too.

http://www.endeavourwhitby.com/ (http://www.endeavourwhitby.com/)

Greg
Title: Re: Manned model Square Riggers
Post by: Jimmy James on August 01, 2009, 10:28:47 PM
Whent on board in Gt. Yarmouth 3 or 4 years ago. I wasw very impressed Twas well done
Freebooter
Title: Re: Manned model Square Riggers
Post by: rob on January 20, 2010, 10:51:25 PM
I seem to remember a Mould , stood up against a shed wall, in Bradford on Avon, belonging to Mr Underwood. That was for a manned Galleon of some sort.

If they  turned out as well as his other hulls, they must have been very good indeed.
Title: Re: Manned model Square Riggers
Post by: Wasyl on January 21, 2010, 10:20:00 AM
If,Graupner can Rc an Alexander von Humboldt,then i,m sure you could rc these


Wullie
Title: Re: Manned model Square Riggers
Post by: RickF on January 25, 2010, 07:34:43 PM
Here's HMS Kent (1760), built on a 42 foot  service boat during the '20s. This photo appears in the Chatham Navy Week programme for 1933.

(http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee59/RickF_photos/Kent.jpg)

Rick
Title: Re: Manned model Square Riggers
Post by: Arrow5 on January 25, 2010, 07:50:16 PM
Nice find Rick. :-))
Title: Re: Manned model Square Riggers
Post by: Garabaldy on February 26, 2010, 12:29:27 AM
If,Graupner can Rc an Alexander von Humboldt,then i,m sure you could rc these


Wullie

"Sailing the model in wind strengths above 1 Beaufort is not recommended!
Since the model is not fitted with a variable rig, it should be operated as a powered boat with sails."

quoted from the Graupner website.