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Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on January 07, 2010, 09:17:26 PM
Hello from sunny Germany *coughing* :)

I was following this thread for a long time. I think this Springer-thingy is a fabulous idea. I love the varieties you guys produce. There is no one like the other.
Sadly the idea has not taken off too much over here so far. So my buddy Torsten and I want to see if we can help to change this.

As we have a nice laser-cutter at hand, we thought we use this to build our first springers.
The idea grew more and more. And the plan was developed further and further, even before the first laser-cut was made.

Now we have version 1.1 and are quite happy with the first cutout. See what you think.  :-)
Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: oldiron on January 07, 2010, 09:24:04 PM
Nice job. Do i see a kit emerging here?

John
Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on January 07, 2010, 09:24:51 PM
As the parts fit like LEGO, the build is very straightforward. After only 45 minutes we have this:
Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on January 07, 2010, 09:31:36 PM
Nice job. Do i see a kit emerging here?

John

At first we only had planned to make this for ourselves. We only wanted to make the basic hull with deck to try out a lot of different versions because we could not decide which look we liked the most.

If there would be any interest we could think about making a real kit out of this
Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Martin [Admin] on January 07, 2010, 09:52:59 PM
Wow!  :o

Great job Aurigarius, can we see a completed one yet?


"Hello from sunny Germany " Huh!  <*<

Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on January 07, 2010, 09:58:55 PM
We are building as we speak...err...type...
this is from a couple of minutes ago.
Sorry for the shaky pics...we are so exited... :}
Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: hollowhornbear on January 07, 2010, 10:03:01 PM
cool
Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Martin [Admin] on January 07, 2010, 10:11:23 PM

 Do you have your ow laser cutter or access someone else's?
Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Bradley on January 07, 2010, 10:14:02 PM
Reckon this would sell well as a 'flat-pack' kit. :-)) :-))  You already have a 'captive' market among us Mayhemmers. ;) :-)

Derek.
Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on January 07, 2010, 11:08:39 PM
@ Martin: the laser belongs to a friend. We may use it whenever he doesn't. We can make the parts in Corel Draw and feed the data straight into the laser.

@ Derek: ok, we will check if we can use the laser often enough to think about selling it as a kit. But I am not sure if I would be allowed to talk about selling it here. I am not familiar with the forum-rules at the moment. :embarrassed:

To the admins: Sorry  - if this is going into the wrong direction for you, please be so kind to tell me. I don't want to misuse this great forum. 
Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: craftysod on January 07, 2010, 11:08:48 PM
Not just Mayhemmers Derek,
This could be a great kit for beginners,if priced right,this could be a big hit.
Look where lego/Ikea are now
Flat pack springer excellent
Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Bill D203 on January 08, 2010, 04:24:54 PM
Nice Job ! The burning  (get it burning) Question  is How much do i have to pay to get a kit?????
Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: des321 on January 08, 2010, 11:38:35 PM
This is a great thread. A good effort at a kit also. But hang on a minute. A couple of months ago I downloaded the side profile from this site. Surely that is all anyone needs. I have just finished my build (pictures to follow when the ice has melted) which cost almost nothing. It is made from scrap materials and bits borrowed from boats no longer in service. I only started this hobby one year ago and already have a couple of boats I won't be saiing much anymore.
I'm all for getting more people to build Springers and perhaps have club Water Polo events and the like. I consider the construction in the prototype kit to be way over the top. It can be kept much more simple. No need for all those cross members. For me the appeal of Springers is the variety of above deck constructions. Lets not standardise that.
Hope this doesn't sound too critical. I just wanted to add what I consider valid comment.
Good sailing.
Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: andyn on January 08, 2010, 11:42:32 PM
Couldn't agree more.
Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: omra85 on January 08, 2010, 11:42:43 PM
Ah, but Des - some are just too "busy" to build their own ...  %) :-))
Danny
Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Martin [Admin] on January 09, 2010, 08:26:33 AM

A Springer "kit" works for me!  :-))
Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Bill Harris on January 09, 2010, 09:09:45 AM
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This is a great thread. A good effort at a kit also. But hang on a minute. A couple of months ago I downloaded the side profile...
I agree, more or less.  The beauty of the Springer is that the basic hull can be pieced together out of scraps in an afternoon.   But on the other hand, a Springer is all about innovation and I rather like the architecture of the laser-cut parts.

As the phrase goes, whatever floats your boat...   :-)

--Bill
Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: hollowhornbear on January 09, 2010, 09:46:04 AM
I agree too, but also think a kit is a good idea as it may encourage some less able to build their own. also nice and quick for a child to build with assistance, Go for it! :-)) :-))
Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Bradley on January 09, 2010, 10:11:07 AM
I fail to see what the argument is about.  You make your own choice to either build from bits and pieces or, if a kit is available, use it. :-))  Why knock one or the other???????? {:-{ :((

Derek.
Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on January 09, 2010, 01:57:37 PM
Des I am completely with you on nearly all your points. I am in the hobby for many years now (most of the time RC-Car Racing, not boats though) and I don't see many problems finishing a model car, plane or boat. I enjoy building and finding my own solutions. But did you notice how many kits are sold compared to ready to run models? How many people prefer a complete all-in-box to a basic plan?

People may have a lot of reasons not to be able to buy themselves some pieces of wood and glue, some basic tools, print out a plan and so on. May it too little time (that one goes for me as well) or they think they don't have the ability to do it. So to make the start even simpler could bring even more people into the hobby and I think this is a good thing.

Even some people here in the forum, who surely have got the ability to finish a springer without a kit like this, like the idea. That encourages us to go ahead with the kit. Surely this will cost more than buying some pieces of wood in the DIY and when we come out with a price, some guys will disagree with it. But that's the nice thing about the hobby. The ones who like the kit will be very happy with it and the ones who like doing it all by themselves will also be happy with their own work and even may save a few bucks.

We will also be happy if our work is appreciated and we may even get a small payback for what we do (no one will get rich in modelling I am sure ;))

News on the kit: we have version 1.2 now and want to change one or two small things. Because of course it makes a difference making this just for ourselves or making a kit which we can sell.

We will do only the wooden parts. So some additional parts will be needed. So we want to make a list what parts are needed to finish the boat and of course we will make a small pictured manual (which now will be needed in two languages of course).

It's a lot of fun doing all this and it is even more fun to see that you guys like the idea.     (http://www.JU-Racing.de/smilies/winke.gif)

Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Bill Harris on January 09, 2010, 03:20:39 PM
There are good reasons why someone may not want or be able to build their own boats.  If you live in an apartment and don't have a shop or the tools to cut the wood.  Or you don't have a supply of wood scraps.  Or have never built a boat before.   A Springer is not difficult, but gettting the drivetrain to line up and the hull to be watertight and all the little details takes some experience.  A kit, and especially a laser-cut kit with an accurate fit on all the parts, makes it a lot easier for the new builder and indeed can be a rewarding experience.

Go for it.

--Bill
Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Arrow5 on January 09, 2010, 04:37:49 PM
I like the idea of a kit. I do think however that a couple of options for differing tops might be worth considering, perhaps based on the suggestions on the first few pages of the RCGroups Springer pages.    Do a typical US style but also typical  German(?) or even imaginary European styles out of the basic wheelhouse parts giving options and a little customisation so that no two look identical.  Maybe even an optional just wood for the hull only kit to prompt the imagination as someone suggested.   A simple propshaft/motor lining-up device should be incorporated.  1/16th sheet is only sold in UK model shops in expensive 3ft lengths. The kit should include a piece correct size for the hull bottom so that a new builder isn`t forced to buy a whole model shop piece. I wonder if our French club in/near Paris is reading this?  My personal opinion is that Springer sides, bow and stern pieces should be at least 1/2" thick wood, ply or solid.
Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: des321 on January 09, 2010, 04:52:37 PM
Good luck to the kit makers I say. I'm sure there is room for one in the market and anything to get more Springers on the water has to be good. I  guess those who would rather scratch build will continue to do their individual designs and the kit will appeal to others.
I hope that makes everyone happy.
Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on January 09, 2010, 05:18:15 PM
I do think however that a couple of options for differing tops might be worth considering,
We are considering this a lot  :-)
It may well be that we offer kits with various wheelhouses. We even thought about a special "soccer-version". As this forum clearly shows: Modellers never run out of ideas.

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Maybe even an optional just wood for the hull only kit to prompt the imagination as someone suggested.

Yes, this was our first idea. But the wheelhouse we have now would not make the kit much more expensive, so we thought we make one complete with wheelhouse to see how it takes off.

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A simple propshaft/motor lining-up device should be incorporated
Already done  O0

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The kit should include a piece correct size for the hull bottom so that a new builder isn`t forced to buy a whole model shop piece.
Jepp...done!  O0

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My personal opinion is that Springer sides, bow and stern pieces should be at least 1/2" thick wood, ply or solid.
I'm sorry but I have a metric brain. ;) It is made of 4mm plywood all around and it is very solid.

Version 1.2 in the making...
Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Arrow5 on January 09, 2010, 06:33:24 PM
Well done :-))  My mistake on sizing 1/2" = 12mm. :embarrassed:   Yes a Soccer version would be an idea, need 12mm for that I think.  Maybe a "flavour of the month" new top every now and then ? 
Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: toesupwa on January 10, 2010, 03:23:01 PM
As a bit of a Springer builder  %) , these are a few of my thoughts...

The construction of the hull looks to be over complicated, with too many cross braces along the bottom of the hull.

I like the wheel-house, but make sure there is enough provision for a good 1"(25mm) coaming under the wheel house to stop water ingress.

I dont see any push knees in the pic, make these from something solid (3/4" (20mm) material) and make sure they are securely fitted to the hull, not just stuck to the bow / deck.

I'm assuming you have the blessing of the designer and / or the Pacific North West (PNW.. USA) group that came up with the original design.. before you start thinking of marketing someone's design as a kit?

If the kit comes to fruition, make the price in the region that a beginner (as the design was originally intended for) can afford.. ie: under $100, 100 UK pound's. There are glass hull's available, so you have to make the price competitive with the glass hull's.

I would go with Arrow5's suggestion and make the sides, bow and stern from 3/4" material.. Beginners are not known for their 'finesse' when it comes to boat handling and if the boat is to be used for football, thinner material may mean the boat ends up at the bottom of the pool.

In the instructions, give a History of the Springer and it's origins.. as well as links to this thread and also the RC Group's thread.
Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: mike_victoriabc on January 10, 2010, 03:28:58 PM
Well said there Toes!

A big plus goes out to the PNW guys - you can see from the posts that it is a great 'get your feet wet' project.
Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: steamboatmodel on January 10, 2010, 03:44:18 PM
A kit would be a good idea for some of my fumble fingered friends, who I dare not let loose around power tools for fear they would be my fumble fingerless friends. for myself I have salvaged some 3/4" plywood that once I scrape the paint and tar off might be good.
Regards,
Gerald.
Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: toesupwa on January 10, 2010, 04:06:32 PM
Looking at the pictures...

I also don't see any provision for attaching / securing the towing bitts...  {:-{

If the hull construction is to be simplified, incorporate at least one bulkhead to attach the towing bitts to.

... or at least strengthen the deck, maybe a doubler, to attach the bitts to...
 O0
Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Martin [Admin] on January 10, 2010, 04:27:54 PM

I would go with Arrow5's suggestion and make the sides, bow and stern from 3/4" material.. Beginners are not known for their 'finesse' when it comes to boat handling and if the boat is to be used for football, thinner material may mean the boat ends up at the bottom of the pool.


If it's too much work to inconsiderate doublers, then extra infill pieces could be cut  and glued in place.

$100??? I don't think you would get many customers at that price..... I would say nearer $50-60 (35-45) to make it attractive.
Also, look in the costs of supping running gear or arranging another suppler to make up a running gear kit for you.  :-))
Title: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on January 10, 2010, 04:38:35 PM
As a bit of a Springer builder  %) , these are a few of my thoughts...

These are very welcome - thank you!

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The construction of the hull looks to be over complicated, with too many cross braces along the bottom of the hull.
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I would go with Arrow5's suggestion and make the sides, bow and stern from 3/4" material.

We chose the 4mm plywood because of the abilities of the lasercutter. We would have chosen thicker material, but the laser has some limits. That is the reason for strengthen the hull with these cross-braces. It may look complicated at first (at least more complicated than a simple wooden-box setup) but it all goes together quite logically. Maybe this lightweight-construction has something to do with our heritage :-) (Torsten flies/constructs model-planes and I am the RC-Racer) Maybe we learn, that we went wrong. But before we sell the first boats we will put our boats through a very hard test. If they survive that - they should survive anything.  :D

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I like the wheel-house, but make sure there is enough provision for a good 1"(25mm) coaming under the wheel house to stop water ingress.
That has already been built in. You don't see in the pictures, but it is there.

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I dont see any push knees in the pic, make these from something solid (3/4" (20mm) material) and make sure they are securely fitted to the hull, not just stuck to the bow / deck.

The knees  are made of three identical pieces of 4mm ply, which is glued together. They are not shown in tha last pic, because that's a part we are still thinking about a bit.

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I'm assuming you have the blessing of the designer and / or the Pacific North West (PNW.. USA) group that came up with the original design.. before you start thinking of marketing someone's design as a kit?

We will get in contact with them to get their blessing. That's a good idea.
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If the kit comes to fruition, make the price in the region that a beginner (as the design was originally intended for) can afford.. ie: under $100, 100 UK pound's. There are glass hull's available, so you have to make the price competitive with the glass hull's.

We are wanting to keep it below 50. I think that should be realistic.

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Beginners are not known for their 'finesse' when it comes to boat handling and if the boat is to be used for football, thinner material may mean the boat ends up at the bottom of the pool.

We will have a lot of fun on our first test-drives, because we want to make this as 'idiot-proof' as possible. ;)

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In the instructions, give a History of the Springer and it's origins.. as well as links to this thread and also the RC Group's thread.
That's intended, of course.

Thank you very much for your input. This is much appreciated.

Jorg
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on January 11, 2010, 08:37:56 PM
ok - so we have given the first kit to Ulrich - one of our club members. If there is something wrong with it - he will find it. And he will build it beautifully, I'm sure.
A second kit will be handed out to someone tomorrow. So we will have 4 or 5 boats in the making and we will test-drive them very shortly.
Torsten will make a first prototype soccer-version as well...

For the time being I let you have a look at Ulrich's build. Some of his decorating work will not ne part of the kit.
(http://www.modellbauvideos.de/board/wbb/index.php?page=Attachment&attachmentID=1753&h=097fdaa2fe9af7f29bf97b6be8fde6f444328888)
The box arrives

(http://www.modellbauvideos.de/board/wbb/index.php?page=Attachment&attachmentID=1754&h=2ad9596faf53c029b38acc220a7f9e66dbe1ace4)
The boat's rest-place

(http://www.modellbauvideos.de/board/wbb/index.php?page=Attachment&attachmentID=1755&h=78cdb9754fcfa7687697dd88ad04f7bf505efb7e)
The battery-braces. We stick two 7,2V stickpacks here with velcro. So the center of gravity can easily be moved

(http://www.modellbauvideos.de/board/wbb/index.php?page=Attachment&attachmentID=1756&h=ec09ef48527ecec2d9742e9e535a4e50ace0c980)
The wheelhouse

(http://www.modellbauvideos.de/board/wbb/index.php?page=Attachment&attachmentID=1757&h=3c0939973b9d4916c0d8f9d42f9061b311850e33)
Parts of the inner frame which stiffens the hull

(http://www.modellbauvideos.de/board/wbb/index.php?page=Attachment&attachmentID=1758&h=2b53484434ae544047acc9f0fda343cdc6186f6f)
Little bit of work done to the wheelhouse

(http://www.modellbauvideos.de/board/wbb/index.php?page=Attachment&attachmentID=1766&h=7be7d404b1157d7fb4b6ea0acb70670871cfbb0c)
Downstairs to the machine-department

more to come...
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: andygh on January 11, 2010, 09:01:13 PM
SOCCER?  >>:-(  <*<>>:-(
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Post by: Aurigarius on January 11, 2010, 09:04:18 PM
yes...did I hit a nerve there?  :}    (http://www.JU-Racing.de/smilies/undwech.gif)
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: andyn on January 11, 2010, 09:08:43 PM
SOCCER?  >>:-(  <*<>>:-(

Not exactly football if the players don't have feet is it?
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: des321 on January 11, 2010, 10:22:48 PM
I think its Water Polo. No worries about 4mm ply construction if its braced properly.
That how mine is constructed and in its short life its taken quite a bashing. Mine is the one with the helicopter on top.
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on January 12, 2010, 11:04:34 PM
I have some more pictures from Ulrich's build. So you can see that it is braced properly.
(http://www.modellbauvideos.de/board/wbb/index.php?page=Attachment&attachmentID=1768&h=f6faac11f44beedf50a94c2b84d60c08d48cc8fc)

Wheelhouse is on.
(http://www.modellbauvideos.de/board/wbb/index.php?page=Attachment&attachmentID=1769&h=cbe004194a4f457de194b505ceef2eefd64b941e)

Inside the Wheelhouse
(http://www.modellbauvideos.de/board/wbb/index.php?page=Attachment&attachmentID=1771&h=acd6971df212e75e9c18edbec061c39122bec44c)
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on January 12, 2010, 11:12:13 PM
We are experimenting with different wheelhouse-versions. The hull is always the same.
Do you think we went a bit over the top here?
(http://www.modellbauvideos.de/board/wbb/index.php?page=Attachment&attachmentID=1775&h=2bd6045b4ef11b68292a4bcb0b3ef22927fda4a7)

This could be our "soccer-version" with reinforced front and smaller wheelhouse with open backside. I think we will call this "Wembley"  %%
(http://www.modellbauvideos.de/board/wbb/index.php?page=Attachment&attachmentID=1780&h=7b3097bc185fd087fbf084880d8c4b8cd6e9fc88)

The wheelhouse accommodates a playmobil-sized driver figure
(http://www.modellbauvideos.de/board/wbb/index.php?page=Attachment&attachmentID=1783&h=0a2c0c4e59442fe88aec81e17a6086dadc0e1221)

We are not really running out of ideas. But if someone else has a good idea - now is the time to come forward  ok2
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Martin [Admin] on January 13, 2010, 08:36:56 AM
Fantastic!!!!  :-)
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Arrow5 on January 13, 2010, 09:06:31 AM
You certainly are getting full use of the laser-cutter.  Wooden railings don't look as good as wire.  Not over the top with elevated wheelhouse at all.  Wembley is the ENGLISH football stadium...that one wont sell in other (non English) parts of the UK !   You might need access to steering gear at stern.  I would add two full width bulkheads. Careful with Snoopy !!!!!
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: craftysod on January 13, 2010, 05:48:24 PM
To make life a bit easier for you guys.
Looking from the front of the hull,you will not need the first and third brace,it will be strong enough.
You could insert a slot,like you have done for the motor brace,further rearwood,where the bottom bends,and add a brace there.
This will help with stopping the wood trying to spring free.
Brilliant idea though,i would get one to play with
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: toesupwa on January 13, 2010, 06:28:43 PM

We are not really running out of ideas. But if someone else has a good idea - now is the time to come forward  ok2

Once you have an 'experienced' builder build one of your kit's, give a kit to a beginner.. say a 10 -12 year old, and see if they can do a build without any problems. Of course they will need assistance along the way (try to let them do as much on their own as possible), but that should highlight any corrections you need to make with the kit and instructions.

Like the wheelhouse variations by the way!...
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: craftysod on January 13, 2010, 06:41:47 PM
Good thinking there Toes  :-))
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on January 13, 2010, 06:56:36 PM
Instructions are on the way. We will do it by showing the build with some pictures.
Our "typical 13 year old beginner" will get a kit this week.

Seems like we have quite similar ideas.  :-))
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: SteamboatPhil on January 13, 2010, 10:03:21 PM
A great idea, anything that might bring new comers to hobby can't be all bad, its a sort of one up from the ezzebuild kits.  :-))
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: fooman2008 on January 14, 2010, 06:18:43 AM
If you are looking for a guinea pig (victim) to try your kit on I have an 8 year old little girl (with about 200 Barbie's seemingly, for pilots) who would love to try one!  I have a spare three channel stick radio, and a couple of motors from a broken down off-road truck.  Even have a step speed controller (which was replaced by and ESC in my wife's R/C truck).  Sounds like the start to a good springer!  This time of year (in Idaho) the water is either solid or falling from the sky frozen into little crystals (snow), so this is a good time to build.  Drop me a line, please
Foo
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on January 14, 2010, 08:02:38 AM
ok, you've got a PM, Foo.

The instructions are not ready yet. But if anyone is interested please drop me a line (PM)
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Arrow5 on January 14, 2010, 10:41:02 AM
Advice on where to fit foam flotation blocks (styrofoam) would be wise.  Dont ask why I know this :(( <:(
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: norry on January 14, 2010, 01:11:04 PM
...Hi Guys...  Wait till i get my Sporran sitting properly on my kilt...

Why is the Football Springer to be called "WEMBLEY" does that mean it wont work in Scotland....

...Scotland....Home of arrow5 The instigator of the Springer Craze this side of the Atlantic puddle...
...Why not call it "PELE" or "BECKENNBAUER"[b]or even "MARADONNA"[/b]

...Och Aye The Noo...Norry...

P.s Please excuse the spelling of "BECKENBAUER"
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on January 14, 2010, 01:44:49 PM
Hi Norry!

your spelling of BECKENBAUER is perfect  :-))

Don't take that name "Wembley" too seriously. We leave the name-giving to you guys. I think you're much more creative than us.  ok2

"Wembley was a reference to a certain historic world championship footy-match in the 60's between England and Germany with an outcome some old germans still argue about.  {-)
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Arrow5 on January 14, 2010, 05:33:40 PM
Covered that Norry , post #39  8).  I`m wonnering if this guy IS German, perfect English, Wembley {:-{ Hmmmm. 
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Arrow5 on January 14, 2010, 05:43:33 PM
"Wembley was a reference to a certain historic world championship footy-match in the 60's between England and Germany with an outcome some old germans still argue about.  {-)
         Who said the Germans have no sense of humour ! {-)
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on January 14, 2010, 06:57:40 PM
Thanks Arrow. This guy IS German. Sadly I've never even been to the UK. It's about time...
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: norry on January 14, 2010, 07:13:22 PM
...Hi Aurigarius...

Was that the same world champions that got beat in their next game at Wembley against Scotland...I think the score was also 2 - 3....Quite ironic really...

Back to the main subject...This kit is a fabulous idea and it looks fantastic...Keep the reports and pictures coming...

I have moulded several Springer Hulls in GRP and they are now scattered around the Uk...

...Best Regards...Norry
...

Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Arrow5 on January 15, 2010, 09:44:37 AM
...and very stout hulls they are Norry. :-)) Thank You !  Now we have commercial interest on the continent we should be thinking seriously about the Moissy Cramayel (France) club`s invitation to their Springer Only event on April 11th 2010.   Aurigarius how about a German Team ?  Any Brits fancy Paris in the Springertime (oops)?   Norry a Scots team if the sassenachs dinnae fancy it ?  Ryanair from Prestwick for a fiver if we book now ?   Have a look at www.moissycramaylmodelisme.org for details and regulations etc.
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: norry on January 15, 2010, 10:07:40 AM
...Good Morning Duncan...

I.m afraid there are no Springer Tugs in our current fleet...Wee Johnny was fed up because there was never anyone else to play football with so his Springer Tug was sold in a recent clearout of our Workroom...It was replaced by a Damen Stantug 1906 for Tug-Towing...
"TIBER" is now down south performing heroic acts as a club rescue boat...

So in order to take part in this French competition I would have to build at least 2 more Springer Tugs...I,m afraid there are 4 more projects in front of that...

...Best Regards...Norry & Wee Johnny...
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Arrow5 on January 15, 2010, 12:23:09 PM
Jings man , ah,ll gie ye a couple fur an International !   {-)
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on January 19, 2010, 08:49:10 AM
The first springer-kit is on it's way to the UK.      (http://www.JU-Racing.de/smilies/dance.gif)
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Arrow5 on January 19, 2010, 10:07:05 AM
So who is the ....... lucky recipient ?    Just so we can torment him/her {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: bosun on January 19, 2010, 12:20:49 PM
So who is the mug....er lucky recipient ?    Just so we can torment him/her {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
Right lets get something straight from the start, I have in my fleet,,
Tugs
!.. Imara
2,,, Ironsider
3.. Northsider
4,,,Envoy
5..,Dutch Courage
6.. Lady Jan
7 Flying Drake   ( to be Started)

Fishing Boats
!... Boston Typhoon
2,,, Scratch built crabber on a Cygnus hull
3...Cygnus SF  33 just started
various other hulls that will be built, when I am ready to do so.
I consider myself to be an experienced modeller, as others who have seen my boats will testify, certainly not as good as some on here, but certainly not a novice.
Other people who have a good standing within the modeling fraternity, have posted on this thread regarding this kit built Springer, there observations generally favour the springer kit, and the fact that it could be used to bring young modellers, and those who may not have tha facilties, or woodworking skills  into our hobby. ( God knows we need the youngsters)
I have a young grandson, who is the world to me, but I would certainly not let him near any of my boats untill he is older, and I would certainly not let him near any sharp, or power tools,  but then again, guess what, he could sit at the kitchen table, get all and sundry covered in glue, but he could, also with guidance build this little Springer, apart from the electrics, and you never know, we could have another future modeller, surely that is,nt a bad thing.
 I see over your many posts that you like to build springers, you also take some great photo,s, but that doesnt give you the right to take the proverbial, and as for being a mug,,, lets just say you would,nt say that to my face. As you have probably guessed,I am the guy who bought this little Springer.
I apllaud Auriigarius, for at least  trrying to do something positive within our hobby, and I suggest that if all you can do is make snide remarks, it would be best to keep them to yourself.
Bosun
PS , To the Moderaters
 I mean no offence in defending the fact that I bought the Springer, but I am offended by bigotry and the use of the term ..... in relation to what was previously posted
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: hollowhornbear on January 19, 2010, 12:34:21 PM
I'm sorry to see you take what was obviously to me unless i mis-understood arrow5 a bit of banter, a joke if you will. it is something that happens on here frequently. I hope you and your grandson have many happy hours getting the glue of him as he builds his first boat, a memory he will treasure, as i do mine when I built my first with my fatner, now sadly passed. And i was in my late teens then.
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Martin [Admin] on January 19, 2010, 01:19:58 PM

PS , To the Moderaters
 I mean no offence in defending the fact that I bought the Springer, but I am offended by bigotry and the use of the term ..... in relation to what was previously posted


Duly noted and corrected.

 That reminds me, must get on with my new Springers!
    Martin  :-)

Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on January 19, 2010, 02:21:28 PM
News from this side of the channel.
We have made this very nice missisippi-style version of our springer and we like it very much.
I hope we are able to make better pictures soon.

Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: omra85 on January 19, 2010, 02:25:50 PM
You ARE having fun  :-)) Very nice, I expect the prop wash will drive the paddles in an entertaining manner -
unless you're making it paddle driven  :o  {-) {-)

Danny
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on January 19, 2010, 02:41:23 PM
We have not made it paddle-driven. But I am curious to see, when the first kit builder manages to do that. ok2
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Arrow5 on January 19, 2010, 04:38:10 PM
Bosun I am sorry that you are offended.  It WAS intended as a joke. I ask the moderator to remove said post and remind myself to keep my mouth shut in future. :-X
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: kiwi on January 19, 2010, 05:52:51 PM
HI,
Very well done, however your paddles on back-to-front.
Keep up the good work
kiwi
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on January 19, 2010, 06:20:16 PM
Hey Duncan,

I don't feel offended. So no need to remove anything from my point of view.     (http://www.JU-Racing.de/smilies/winke.gif)
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Arrow5 on January 19, 2010, 06:44:16 PM
danke , no problemo Jorg   :}
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: bosun on January 19, 2010, 07:07:08 PM
Hy Arrow5
No problem this end, just standing up for myself. Let,s just get back to the Springer thread and enjoy all the build methods.  :-))
 bosun
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: craftysod on January 19, 2010, 07:15:24 PM
Bosun,
Look forward to the pics of your grandsons build,and a very good explanation,as to why these kits are favourable.
Please remove said grandson from table,before glue has set,for first test float. :}
Mark
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: bosun on January 19, 2010, 08:05:10 PM
Hy mark
How are you.
Thanks for the comment, we only get to see him about once a fortnight but it,s a good place for him to start, as with all kids, it,s keeping the interest going is the problem, but as it,s an easy build, he should see quick progress and that should Gee him on.
Cheers
bosun
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: portside II on January 22, 2010, 10:15:39 AM
HI,
Very well done, however your paddles on back-to-front.
Keep up the good work
kiwi
That's what i thought  :-)) .
daz
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on January 22, 2010, 08:18:01 PM
Aaahh...now I see.
That is the version for motors running backwards.  {-)
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Flying Sparks on January 23, 2010, 10:47:57 AM
Dear Aurigarius

I've been following your Springer design with interest, I must say youv'e done a super job. I have buit a few areoplanes from laser cut kits but not a boat. Will your Springer kits become available to purchase? I'd love to buy one.

Keep up the good work.

Phil.
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on January 23, 2010, 10:56:47 AM
Hi Phil,

they are available and ready for 'shipping' ;) already.
As I don't wart to spam this forum with adverts just drop me a PM and I give you the details.
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Flying Sparks on January 23, 2010, 11:20:41 AM
PM sent  :-))
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Martin [Admin] on January 23, 2010, 04:14:17 PM
Hi Phil,

they are available and ready for 'shipping' ;) already.
As I don't wart to spam this forum with adverts just drop me a PM and I give you the details.

For understanding the "spirit of Mayhem" and contributing to the forum first,
 please feel free to post any details of your Springer kits, prices, conditions, etc.

    
     (Don't abuse the privilege. Martin )   ;)  
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on January 25, 2010, 11:13:37 PM
ok, thanks a lot, Martin. I will post more details, when I have the English shop ready.

For the time being - here's another Version: The Springer-Ferry
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on January 27, 2010, 10:09:56 PM
And here it is where it belongs...

(http://rconkel.de/shopx/images/product_images/popup_images/892_6.JPG)
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: portside II on January 27, 2010, 10:28:36 PM
now that looks nice and sits well on the water, top marks  :-)) .
daz
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Arrow5 on January 28, 2010, 03:19:42 PM
Very nice, are the "salon" windows glazed ?
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on January 28, 2010, 03:32:15 PM
not yet. But they will be, of course.
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: SteamboatPhil on January 28, 2010, 10:26:33 PM
I have to say (again---- alright) this is a great idea. Although it is quite simple to make a springer from scratch, to give a youngster "a kit of parts" and a tube of glue (cyno if you are really brave) they can build their own boat in a very short time. More to the point they can see it happining before their eye's. These days they all seem to want it "NOW". This is a great start for them, and a great learing curve. I have bought a couple of GRP hulls from our very own Norry just to speed up some of my springer builds  :-)) (oh the dark springer side has got me) I had a lot of intrest at the recent London Model Engineer Exhibition with my springer collection and could have sold the kit many times over.........to beginners and long established modelers alike, so it just shows you.

Are you allowed an advert Aurigarius, or some details as I'm exhibiting soon at the North west Show, and I know I'm going to get asked again  O0
(go on Duncan you know you want to build one  {-) {-)
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on January 28, 2010, 10:48:20 PM
Phil I want to put all the versions we have now on a pictured list, together with a shop-link, which I could send you as a PDF-File. If you would like to hand that to everyone interested at your exhibition, that would be fabulous. Maybe you'd even like to take one or two examples with you.
Wen now even have quite some kits in stock.

If I only would have a little more time to make the English shop-version...I hope I can to it this weekend.
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: andyn on January 29, 2010, 12:54:28 AM
give a youngster "a kit of parts" and a tube of glue (cyno if you are really brave)

You need to be brave to give Phil cyano  ;) {-) ;D

I think the kit's a fantastic idea, just a thought though, how are you sticking adhesive to the burn marks? Cut laser ply is notoriously difficult to glue...
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on January 29, 2010, 07:44:56 AM
Quote
how are you sticking adhesive to the burn marks? Cut laser ply is notoriously difficult to glue...

Yes, we learned that also  :embarrassed:
But only when using cyano
You can sand the surface a bit, which makes it easier. But it's best to use white glue like Ponal.
I use that and it works great without sanding - so far...
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Arrow5 on January 29, 2010, 08:26:09 AM
builds  :-))

Are you allowed an advert Aurigarius, or some details as I'm exhibiting soon at the North west Show, and I know I'm going to get asked again  O0
(go on Duncan you know you want to build one  {-) {-)
       No not me Phil, I`ve still got a few old drawers from the dump...er re-cycleing depot, to get through yet.  As for glue I`d only use 5 minute epoxy......and I`d still fill as much space as possible with polystyrene foam blocks. Tell us more about North West Show...that`ll be NW England of course. %)
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: SteamboatPhil on January 29, 2010, 12:52:45 PM
I will PM you Aurigarius as some leaflets would be great.

Its the "A Model World" show at Temple Park, John Reid Road, South Sheilds, Tyne & Wear
10th & 11th April

 :-))
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: tigertiger on January 29, 2010, 01:19:02 PM
Hi Phil,

they are available and ready for 'shipping' ;) already.


I think you are on to a good thing. If I were you I would also think of approaching some of the traders who advertise on here.

If you do this you may need to revue you pricing policy, to allow traders to make money, and you not undercutting them. You also have to remember to allow for shiping and any customs duty.

Are you also considering doing a complete kit, with motors, prop etc. (but perhaps not RC Tx Rx). This would be a one box solution for new modellers.

Perhaps even consider a base pack plus choice of superstructures, including novelty superstructures (e.g. aircraft carrier, battleship, Sherman tank).
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on January 30, 2010, 12:22:18 PM
We have thought about these things. But if we'd do that, we would have to approach the whole project in a completely different manner.
We are prepared to talk to interested traders and I am sure we will can make them an interesting offer. But in times of online-shops and trouble-free online banking, Paypal and stuff, it doesn't matter so much were a shop is located these days.

We are far from having an industrial mass-product. It is a project from two guys who put in a lot of ideas, effort, work and love. We think we are on a good way. But it's not like a 'Graupner-Kit' and was never intended to be like that.

We are on the nuremberg-toy fair next week and we will talk to some manufacturers about all those things we need to make this into a complete kit. We will see where we end up.

For the time being we are very happy with all the great feedback (and orders) we receive from you guys here. Feedback from the U.K. is stronger as from our own country at the moment. We never thought it could be like that. It is great fun.

Thanks a lot to all of you so far!  :-))
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: tigertiger on January 30, 2010, 03:38:33 PM
You don't need to consider mass production.

There are other small manufactureres, who sell direct to public, but also sell to other model shops as well.

There are lots of small model shops who are also family businesses.
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: chingdevil on January 30, 2010, 07:31:37 PM
Aurigarius

Let me know how I can order one, the kits look superb.

Brian
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on February 01, 2010, 08:19:56 AM
Brian you've got a PM  ok2
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: des321 on February 01, 2010, 02:31:53 PM
Aurigarius, would you PM me about obtaining a kit.
Thanks
Des
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on February 01, 2010, 03:33:54 PM
*Done*  ok2
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: bosun on February 01, 2010, 05:44:30 PM
Hy Guys
Recieved my Springer on Saturday , it was a bit late in the posting due to slow maIL but there you go,. I had a quick look at it last night, there are a lot of parts, all nicely cut with the CNC, although I will probably have to sand the burnt edges before I let the nipper and the glue get at it. There were no instructions in the kit, maybe a bit daunting for a youngster or a beginer, but I e,mailed Aurigarus and he very quickly sent me a link to the build. I think it,s a nice little kit, timber quality is good, you could sit down at the table and put it together while you watch the tele in the warm, it,s that easy. Any one thinking of getting one, I would say go for it. I dont Know Aurigarius, but he seems a decent guy, all in all a proper job.
check this link
                          http://www.jutech.net/uploads/Springer-instruction.pdf (http://www.jutech.net/uploads/Springer-instruction.pdf)
Cheers
Bosun
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on February 03, 2010, 06:08:02 PM
Hi Bosun, thanks for your kind words and your patience.
All the boats we send out now have the instructions ready with it.
I'd love to see some pics, when it's ready. ;)
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: SNOOPDOG32 on February 03, 2010, 07:12:11 PM
Hi there Aurigarius, would you PM me about obtaining a kit please
Many Thanks
Clive
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on February 03, 2010, 08:23:16 PM
Done!

 ;)
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: SNOOPDOG32 on February 04, 2010, 11:25:19 AM
Thank you looks very interesting :}
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Cyberdan on February 09, 2010, 04:10:21 PM
Aurigarius,

Please send me a PM re aquiring one of these kits.

Thanks,
Hany
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on February 10, 2010, 09:24:31 AM
Done!

Back from the Nuremberg Toy Fair now.     (http://www.JU-Racing.de/smilies/ko.gif)
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on March 29, 2010, 11:14:13 PM
It took a long time but I have finished a small PDF-leaflet which lists all the different springer kits we have now.
It can be downloaded here: http://www.jutech.net/RCO-Springer-Kits_engl.pdf

More versions may be added later. The best selling version so far is our 'Wembley' kit.
All the kits only contain the wooden parts for the body and superstructure. No hardware, no glue, no electrics.

If you need any more information or pictures, don't hesitate to ask. ;)
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on April 06, 2010, 11:04:48 AM
It's time to show my Kit-Springer named PU(ni)SHER  :D
My own build had to wait so long because we were busy making the kit in different versions and developing it further top be able to sell it.
It is never really ready of course. It will get some more additional parts. Lighting, antenna, exhaust, towing-equipment, maybe sound and some more small bits and pieces.
And of course it will be aged and weathered, because that 'new-look' is much to clean for my liking.

Tech:
Model: RC-Onkel-Springer Tug, Version Standard - old Version (we made a simplyfied version of this one now)

Prop: 45mm 3-Blade, Graupner 2308.45
Shaft: Graupner 321
Rudder: Graupner 430.55
RC: Planet T5 2,4ghz 5ch.
Battery: 2x Panasonic 6V 3400mah lead, parallel
Motor: 600
Speedo: LRP Marine 12V
Servo: Graupner 505

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_d7TQLYNMGUQ/S7sBhcAOFpI/AAAAAAAACKk/DeUKPVDUruc/Punisher1.JPG)
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_d7TQLYNMGUQ/S7sBdnfiNzI/AAAAAAAACJs/wI_U7RCRUnM/Punisher4.JPG)
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_d7TQLYNMGUQ/S7sBeiO6_PI/AAAAAAAACJw/ps-bjZPr_xA/Punisher3.JPG)
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_d7TQLYNMGUQ/S7sBfBEP2RI/AAAAAAAACJ0/6VZTK7Vg5Rk/Punisher2.JPG)
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_d7TQLYNMGUQ/S7sBdH4WNVI/AAAAAAAACJo/woS7SVH_x9o/Punisher5.JPG)
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_d7TQLYNMGUQ/S7sBcV2ypWI/AAAAAAAACJk/25xYm33kuDg/Punisher6.JPG)

To be continued...
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on April 24, 2010, 07:25:10 PM
Still not ready, but it finally has seen the water.

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_d7TQLYNMGUQ/S9MzPdfM6EI/AAAAAAAACfA/yCjrbvAjF5g/s912/Punisher1.JPG)
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_d7TQLYNMGUQ/S9MzMqRc87I/AAAAAAAACe8/jKmw-2hMbxY/s912/Punisher2.JPG)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_d7TQLYNMGUQ/S9MzLRLwQ9I/AAAAAAAACe4/0ofzBt-JEMw/s912/Punisher3.JPG)

And it showed it's muscles
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_d7TQLYNMGUQ/S9MzJ6U1u0I/AAAAAAAACe0/3sUFuCAwiHw/s800/Punisher4.JPG)
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Martin [Admin] on April 24, 2010, 07:29:48 PM
Look powerful! What the motor setup?
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on April 24, 2010, 07:35:11 PM
It's a Standard 600 Type Motor from one of my Airplanes with a 40mm Raboesch brass prop.
2x 3400 6V pb-Batteries in parallel.
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Patrick Henry on April 25, 2010, 04:17:05 PM
I have to ask this...are these Sprhrunger Shrunger Vorschrunger Spring thing kits still available?


Rich
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on April 25, 2010, 06:52:18 PM
Yes it is. Although we need a couple of days at the moment to make the kits because we cannot use the laser-cutter every day.
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on April 26, 2010, 08:41:54 AM
Wow - it can make biiiig waves... :)

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_d7TQLYNMGUQ/S9U8egMHczI/AAAAAAAAChc/mareQYZVDHY/IMGP5436.jpg)
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: springer3 on May 20, 2010, 04:48:18 PM
My scratchbuilt Springer Mk 1
Autodock-mode enabled:
(http://s1.postimage.org/TbQo0.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxTbQo0)
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: springer3 on May 20, 2010, 04:53:27 PM
And my newer, bigger one from the kit Aurigarius wrote about.
No brushed motor anymore, but a smaller brushless one now.
I had to glue a part of a clear plastic card between the bumpers to
avoid the waves from cleaning the deck house... :}
(http://s2.postimage.org/MmU10.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsMmU10)
Easy to build, easy to paint. Riggid and lightweight. I like it. :-))
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on June 02, 2010, 05:33:21 PM
Have had my first experiments with aging my Springer Tug (dry brushing)
Never did it before. Not too bad for the first time I think.

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_d7TQLYNMGUQ/TAVsJjbYM6I/AAAAAAAADUA/pHMCodd_7s8/s800/P1250059.JPG)
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_d7TQLYNMGUQ/TAVsFDuhrmI/AAAAAAAADT8/LiE018HIjYQ/s800/P1250063.JPG)
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_d7TQLYNMGUQ/TAVsEO1FuPI/AAAAAAAADT4/0cHwNOH8Cn8/s800/P1250065.JPG)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_d7TQLYNMGUQ/TAVsDNPr7jI/AAAAAAAADT0/BnSyhJ-al6k/s800/P1250068.JPG)

Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on June 07, 2010, 09:03:47 AM
Done a little more detailing now. Flag, Mast (has to be painted) and exhaust (muffler from one of my old RC-Cars - doesn't need the aging-treatment, because it has lots of 'real-life aging'. :D

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_d7TQLYNMGUQ/TAyZ2ROKj0I/AAAAAAAADfM/zoBQZ_pdutQ/s912/SDC11164.JPG)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_d7TQLYNMGUQ/TAyaEcwPdzI/AAAAAAAADfM/iYlBkyQC5FI/s912/SDC11159.JPG)

Next is the electronics department.

By the way: I would love to see what became of the springer kits I sent to some members of this forum. Do you have any pictures of your build to post here?
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: CaptVos on July 14, 2010, 04:10:25 AM
Hey Aurigarius i live here in the states and ive been reading the thread how much is your kit in dolllars? and what would it cost to get it here? plus is there any particular way i can just get the hull and i can do the deck and wheel house?
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on July 15, 2010, 07:56:00 AM
Hihoo,

it is no problem to send a kit to the USA. I did that before.

But at the moment I am not able to make new kits, because I have lost the opportunity to use the lasercutter I was using up until now.
I am looking for something new. But this should take a little time.

I hope to be back on track very soon. Any news will be reported here.

Aurigarius
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Sharky1dk on July 16, 2010, 01:19:50 PM
 :-)
Is there anny possibility to buy a kit or two?

Robert
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on July 16, 2010, 08:46:16 PM
Hi Robert,

please see the posting above. ;)
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Sharky1dk on July 17, 2010, 05:10:10 PM
oooh   yer   sry, only read first line.

Il just wait until you get your tools up  :)

Danke..

 %%
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: pugwash04 on July 20, 2010, 08:19:14 PM
Hi there,
              great looking kit, just what I am after, are you producing them for sale ?  If yes I want one

Lou (pugwash04)
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Albion on October 01, 2010, 09:41:38 AM
Any news on a new laser cutter source?
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Foggy bottom on October 17, 2010, 04:40:01 AM
WARNING!!!
DO NOT let your wife, Daughter, or girlfriend see the springer kit!  (mine saw the kit, I tried to order one.) But now they are unavailable! So now the pressure is on to build HER one.  And she wants it NOW! >>:-(

Foggy
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Netleyned on October 17, 2010, 06:53:23 AM
Wife, Daughter or Girlfriend?
Or all three??  %% %% %%

Ned
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Arrow5 on October 17, 2010, 08:47:21 AM
There were a couple or so sold in the UK. Are any on show ?
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: sumo74 on September 30, 2011, 10:38:43 PM
any kits still available ?
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: ben hall on December 05, 2011, 06:35:47 PM
if the kit was under 50 i would buy one
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: The long Build on December 05, 2011, 06:45:16 PM
any kits still available ?


Think things changed so full production never happened.
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Bryan - G4CVF on January 19, 2012, 03:18:54 PM
Hi - a long time ago Arrow5 asked if any of the kits sold to the UK were on show.  Judging from the reponse I guess the answer was no. Well, I need to practice sending pictures to this forum so here are pictures of mine which is still a work in progress  - might even finish it one day.

The quality of the kit was first class. It's a pity their manufacture came to an end.

As you can see, mine is the basic model - same as the one built by Aurigarius himself.

Bryan
(http://s16.postimage.org/er4z3dy6p/SAM_0047_1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/er4z3dy6p/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/8epttjv4h/SAM_0048_1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/8epttjv4h/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/j1ta9tyyb/SAM_0057_1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/j1ta9tyyb/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/58u3vmkqv/SAM_0058_1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/58u3vmkqv/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/gotq1se2v/SAM_0060_1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/gotq1se2v/)
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Aurigarius on February 01, 2012, 02:07:13 PM
Nice to see another Kit-Springer again :)

I get asked quite regularly, where to purchase one of these Aurigarius Springer-Kits.
They are no longer available and most probably will not get into production any more.
The reasons for this are mentioned in this thread.

So it's probably a good idea to turn this thread into a normal one and no longer have it pinned in this forum. (Admins are you reading this?) ;-)

But there is hope for everyone, not willing to scratch-build one.
German manufacturer Aeronaut just announced a Springer-Kit on this years toy-fair in Nuremberg.

http://www.aero-naut.de/produkte/schiffsmodellbau/schiffsmodelle/kommerzielle-schifffahrt/ramborator.html

I don't know anything about prices and availability and the page is all in German, but I can tell you it is according to the international rules. It will be available in the shop and online shop I work for now as soon as it is available from Aeronaut.

I am at the Aeronaut-booth in Nuremberg on sunday and hope to get more details then.

tadaa
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: georgo on February 22, 2014, 12:57:30 AM
 :-)) good little model & looks fun to build & no clutter..



Hi - a long time ago Arrow5 asked if any of the kits sold to the UK were on show.  Judging from the reponse I guess the answer was no. Well, I need to practice sending pictures to this forum so here are pictures of mine which is still a work in progress  - might even finish it one day.

The quality of the kit was first class. It's a pity their manufacture came to an end.

As you can see, mine is the basic model - same as the one built by Aurigarius himself.

Bryan
(http://s16.postimage.org/er4z3dy6p/SAM_0047_1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/er4z3dy6p/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/8epttjv4h/SAM_0048_1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/8epttjv4h/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/j1ta9tyyb/SAM_0057_1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/j1ta9tyyb/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/58u3vmkqv/SAM_0058_1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/58u3vmkqv/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/gotq1se2v/SAM_0060_1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/gotq1se2v/)
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: boaterjim on December 03, 2015, 06:48:26 PM
Hello Aurigarius,
 
fantastic, what a brilliant idea for both beginners and experienced model boat operators and builders.
At last an entry or quick build kit aimed directly at all levels of model boaters.
I wish you great success in your future production venture.
Could you please let me know the cost of one of your kits.
regards
Jim
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Stavros on December 03, 2015, 07:55:27 PM
Jim....sorry to be the bearer of bad news but Aurigarius but he is not a member of this forum anymore......One of the best Kits that is available for a beginner is the Aeronaut Ramberator and is around 70


Stav
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Martin [Admin] on December 04, 2015, 01:14:20 AM
 
https://youtu.be/2iZUFBaeib8
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: PeachyPM on December 04, 2015, 04:00:57 PM
If you cut & paste this;
Ramborator Springer Tug Aeronaut Aero-Naut NEU&OVP 

eBay item number:
401031734523

into google search you will get a German company selling them on the German e-bay. at about 55 for the kit & 11 for the shipping, much much cheaper than the 100 plus that I've seen them for sale in the UK I bought 2 (1 for a friend) to split the shipping costs.[/size]  :-))

Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Netleyned on December 04, 2015, 04:04:18 PM
74.95 at Cornwall Model Boats.


Ned
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: TheLongBuild on December 04, 2015, 04:34:08 PM
SHG do a Springer kit.
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: PeachyPM on December 04, 2015, 04:38:14 PM
78.90 at Cornwall Model Boats checkout :police:
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Netleyned on December 04, 2015, 04:45:43 PM
The nice people at CMB give our association a discount  %) %)


Ned
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: PeachyPM on December 04, 2015, 04:51:46 PM
I stand corrected Ned :-))
Title: Re: Aurigarius Springer Kit ?!?
Post by: Netleyned on December 04, 2015, 05:38:13 PM
Andy Griggs at Models By Design does a semikit in grp/plasticard for
around fifty coins of the Realm
I have one and can recommend.


Ned