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Title: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: Number 6 on September 23, 2010, 08:27:46 AM
Hi there everybody. Well I've started my first pusher tug. Always fancied one for a change, and a good size to carry about. I saw the hull at the Warrington show and had to have one. It's from Models By Design and for 20 a bargain I think, could've made one from ply but for 20 why bother?? Up to their usual excellent standards. I also purchased the 'pushers' from them and steerable kort assembly, cast in resin and also of excellent quality. Decided to go with a single kort for ease and want to keep it as light as possible.  Here are the pictures so far...
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: 6705russell on September 23, 2010, 08:28:43 AM
Is it me or have the pictures no come through Dave?

Russ
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Post by: Number 6 on September 23, 2010, 08:31:09 AM
You're quick off the mark today!! Just doing it now, keep watching!! O0
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Post by: Number 6 on September 23, 2010, 08:33:21 AM
More photos...
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Post by: 6705russell on September 23, 2010, 08:46:59 AM
Another good build Dave, well done mate  :-))

Russ
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Post by: Number 6 on September 23, 2010, 08:55:22 AM
Cheers mate, can't decide what colour scheme?? Fancy something bright, bit of fun?? Any ideas??  ok2
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: Double D on September 23, 2010, 08:57:22 AM



PURPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Number 6 on September 23, 2010, 08:59:46 AM
That would definitely standout I suppose!!  O0
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Post by: Arrow5 on September 23, 2010, 09:04:27 AM
WW1 dazzle camoflage %%
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Post by: Number 6 on September 23, 2010, 09:08:15 AM
Could do, got plenty of masking tape!!  :-))
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Post by: RaaArtyGunner on September 23, 2010, 09:25:27 AM
WW1 dazzle camouflage %%
Why not Purple Dazzle camouflage %% %% O0 O0
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: Double D on September 23, 2010, 12:05:59 PM


Just a thought but why not just look at all those aerosol cans of spray that you've already got and use some of them up?????  That way it will cost you less and free up some more space in the front kitchen, sorry I mean your work room :}  O0 {-)
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: grasshopper on September 23, 2010, 01:00:11 PM

Just a thought but why not just look at all those aerosol cans of spray that you've already got and use some of them up?????  That way it will cost you less and free up some more space in the front kitchen, sorry I mean your work room :}  O0 {-)

I've just caught on.......Double Diamond and NO.6 are somehow related? That last comment could be regarded as quite 'wifely', you know stick the knife in, wait, wait, OK twist it now!
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: Number 6 on September 24, 2010, 03:35:51 PM
The penny's dropped. Double Diamond is my better half, she puts up with me and my boats, and the 6ft Russian sub in the bedroom!!  %) %)
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Post by: mattycoops43 on September 24, 2010, 03:49:27 PM
"6ft Russian sub in the bedroom!!"

Oh My!  :o
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Post by: Number 6 on September 24, 2010, 04:10:16 PM
Think I'm going have to make a better home for it... %)
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: Double D on September 24, 2010, 05:30:52 PM
"6ft Russian sub in the bedroom!!"

Oh My!  :o

It lies up the middle of the bed between us {-) {-) {-)
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: dreadnought72 on September 24, 2010, 05:48:44 PM
A Dazzpringer would be awesome.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_NpINLHeo8rM/RugHtP5flhI/AAAAAAAAGl0/XItUKbCR-zk/s400/daz1.jpg)

Andy
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Post by: Arrow5 on September 24, 2010, 06:09:33 PM
Loads Springazzle  ideas here http://www.bobolinkbooks.com/Camoupedia/DazzleCamoflage.html  some in colour. or try a search, good stuff.
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: Number 6 on September 24, 2010, 06:16:30 PM
I might go for dazzle scheme. Would have to be careful not to lose it on the lake, it's only little!! Would certainly be different!! Does that mean I can enter it for Navy Days?? {-) {-)
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: Arrow5 on September 24, 2010, 06:48:31 PM
I`ll try again with the link.... http://www.bobolinkbooks.com/Camoupedia/DazzleCamouflage.html  Edit, my spellkig gets worserer annd warserer. Link working now.
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Post by: RaaArtyGunner on September 24, 2010, 09:40:02 PM
It lies up the middle of the bed between us {-) {-) {-)
Good to see that priorities are alive and well  %) %) 8) 8)
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: Number 6 on September 25, 2010, 06:54:48 PM
Done some more work to it today, nearly ready for some paint me thinks... O0 O0
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Post by: hollowhornbear on September 25, 2010, 08:03:01 PM
looking good :-))
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Post by: 6705russell on September 25, 2010, 09:23:13 PM
Fantastic job Dave.    :-))
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: Number 6 on September 28, 2010, 12:41:40 PM
Cheers Russ. Started spraying her today, chickened out of dazzle scheme. May do that with another project I've got in mind. Using Halfords acrylic aerosols, my usual choice these days. Doing her in similar scheme to my other tug, Jojo Hull black/red oxide, superstructure/funnel Ford Ivory. Still undecided about deck colour yet, I'll have to see what's in the cupboard like the boss says! Another thing, why does it always try to start raining as soon as you start to shake the aerosol cans?? Is there some hidden link in the great scheme of things??  Dave   O0 %% O0
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: Number 6 on September 28, 2010, 03:46:43 PM
Most of the painting done now, managed to dodge the odd shower. Getting a better idea of how she'll look when finished now. I'll leave it for a couple of days to dry out properly then start on the more detailed work. Hoping for a maiden voyage this Sunday if the weather complies! %) Dave
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: Foggy bottom on September 29, 2010, 03:17:14 AM
Just a thought. Too high an ambient humidity is easier to fix than too Low!  The paint dries en route to the subject and can result in any thing from dry powder to "orange peel"! (ever try to put retarder in a spray can?) Thats why we moved to Boise!
 Dave
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: octo on September 29, 2010, 12:13:17 PM
Hi Dave, Could you tell me what scale the man, liferaft and the whinch are? and where you got them from. Yours Tony
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: Number 6 on September 29, 2010, 01:37:04 PM
figure is 1.24 scale from george turner,raft canister 1.24 from macs mouldings i think,winch is 1.32 from mobile marine models. not going use winch as takes up too much deck room i think. dave
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: octo on September 29, 2010, 03:32:24 PM
Thanks a lot Dave, much appreciated, bye the way boats looking good, Tony
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Post by: tt1 on September 29, 2010, 03:58:10 PM
Hello Dave, obviously another modeller who doesn't hang about - you on piecework?  {-) {-)
      Lovely little boat, what material are you using? looks like (plasticard), I assume you are building scratch from plans and if not is it your own design? if the latter how do you dimension everything?
Sorry if the questions seem dumb but I'm a late starter and have only built one model from a kit, don't have the knowledge to build from scratch but maybe one day.

      Looks great,

                                  regards Tony.  :-))
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: Number 6 on September 30, 2010, 10:13:12 AM
Hi there, thanks for all the comments, much appreciated.  :-) The only thing spent anything on were the hull, pushers and kort nozzle. Rest of fittings out of the bits box, never throw anything away! The superstructure's made out of 2mm plasticard, nice and strong. She's not made to any plan, I usually have a vague idea of what I want and look at other peoples builds, pics on internet etc. This one I wanted to do on 1/24 because got a fair few spare parts on this scale and didn't want anything too tall. I'll then sketch few ideas out, when got a design I like I'll raid the kitchen cupboards, recycling for cereal boxes (get a telling off usually) and mock a rough structure out of cardboard! I keep a scale figure handy so can ensure it all looks in proportion, especially doorways, windows, access footways, steps etc. If the scale figure could use them then that'll do for me. If it's a tug then windows are big for better vision so I'll make them big. When I'm happy with the card mock up I'll transfer the dimensions to the plasticard and off we go. It only takes an hour or so to mock something out of card, not got to be perfect. Cheaper to make a mistake with cardboard than plastic, learnt that one the hard way!  %) I use a really sharp knife (very carefully  :o) to cut the plasticard, changing the blade quite often. Still got time on my hands as still off work after busting my Achilles tendon in July! Was supposed to go back work next week but getting made redundant mid October so been told I've not got to go back as I'm owed holidays! Got my job as retained Firefighter at least so not that bothered about being out of work for a while. Keep watching for more pics soon...Dave  :-))
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: chingdevil on September 30, 2010, 10:50:50 AM
Dave
I thought the management wanted it purple, does not look very purple to me {-) {-) {-)

Its a great looking model, well done :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))

Brian
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: Number 6 on September 30, 2010, 11:22:33 AM
Got no spare purple paint (shame).  O0  I've got ideas for another of my boats repaint in dazzle scheme, got a Paula 3 might change...again...  {-) I'll put a post on it if decide to go ahead with it, stockpiling masking tape from now on!! Dave  :-)) :-))
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: Number 6 on October 03, 2010, 06:00:25 PM
Well pouring rain all day put pay to the maiden voyage so done some more work on her. Had to ditch the green deck as ran out of paint and didn't fancy 20 mile round trip for another can, so it's red oxide now!  %) Just got some more to do in the wheelhouse, glazing, lights, towing bollards and some more detail work then she's done. Maiden voyage this Wednesday or Sunday, hopefully...Dave  O0 O0 O0
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: debssnal on October 03, 2010, 09:15:23 PM
Hi Dave,looking good.Looks like you will have to go to blackpool and see Andy to get a new build lol.
Are you and russ going ??? If you are let me know as i found the bolts for russis tamar
kind regards
Alan
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: Number 6 on October 04, 2010, 07:38:18 AM
Hi Alan, I'll be up Blackpool with the better half. Going Friday til Sunday, staying at Norbreck, might take a boat for the pool. Not sure if Russ is going, am sure I'll see you up there. Would've come to the Model Airshow down south but leg still not good enough for driving that far. Should be back work Thursday on light duties. :(( I've got that 8ft supertanker to start soon that I got from Andy at Wicksteed so that'll keep me busy a while! Mind you I don't normally go home empty handed!!  {-) {-) See you soon, Dave.  :-)) :-))
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Post by: Dreadstar on October 04, 2010, 10:36:41 AM
I might just see you there Dave,I'll be going down there with my other half too. This will be my first ever visit to the Blackpool show,I'm looking forward to it.

David.
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: Number 6 on October 04, 2010, 11:54:18 AM
The more there the merrier! Usually a good weekend with plenty to see and do, Dave.  :-)) :-))
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Post by: Double D on October 04, 2010, 12:24:43 PM
Mind you I don't normally go home empty handed!! 

 <*< <*< <*< <*<
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: 6705russell on October 04, 2010, 12:43:06 PM
But then again he doesnt keep buying motorbikes neither!!   ok2

Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: Number 6 on October 10, 2010, 07:17:48 PM
Maiden voyage time. After a test in the domestic test pool (waking up my better half doublediamond in the process-sorry) it was off to Westport Lake near Stoke-on-Trent for her first outing. I had a minor problem with a little water getting in through the shaft. More grease and sorting out a tiny bit of play in the shaft soon cured that. I had a good hour on the water with no problems and no leaks. I'm glad I put the angled piece on between the pushers as this seemed to stop a lot of water washing over the deck. Turning circle was good but I might try to improve it further. Overall a very satisfying first voyage. I just need to finish her off now. I might take her to the Blackpool show next weekend if I get her all done....Dave  :-)) :-))
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: Number 6 on October 15, 2010, 09:37:25 AM
Finished off the cabin interior, not going over the top with detail as it's a fun boat not based on any specific boat. Done glazing and put some more bits of fendering on as will be using it for lake 'rescues' too and don't want to damage her or whatever going to help. Just need to do lighting and fit towing bollards which I'll be getting this weekend in Blackpool hopefully. Will make some wiper blades for her too...Dave  :-))
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: Dreadstar on October 15, 2010, 12:22:53 PM
I like it Dave,she looks the business. :-)) :-))
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: Number 6 on October 17, 2010, 06:22:12 PM
Thanks for all the comments guys and gals, much appreciated.  :-)) She spent most of the weekend residing on the Models By Design stand at Blackpool. (fame at last  :D) Managed to get nearly all the bits I was after to finish her off, so I'll be back at work on her soon with more photos coming up. Hopefully be taking her to Warwick next month...Dave.  :-) :-)
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: Number 6 on October 21, 2010, 09:55:54 PM
Pretty much finished now. I might put a couple of spotlights on the cabin roof? Some pics down the lake yesterday too. Dave. :-)) :-))
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Post by: toesupwa on October 22, 2010, 08:55:27 PM
Very nice Number 6  :-))
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Post by: Mr Andy on October 23, 2010, 11:32:34 PM
Very very nice build, she looks the part.

Andy.  :-))
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Post by: octo on October 24, 2010, 11:25:22 AM
Nice one Dave, very original. Tony :-))
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: Number 6 on October 24, 2010, 08:21:29 PM
Thanks for the comments guys. Out on the lake again today with her and 2 more rescues under her belt, a Sydney Star caught up in overhanging branches and a MTB out of power! That's 3 rescues in 3 outings, not too bad! Dave.  :-) :-)
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: Number 6 on October 26, 2010, 09:22:11 PM
Pic taken by friend of one of the Sunday rescues. Will have to start charging recovery fees... O0
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Post by: sailorboy61 on October 26, 2010, 09:42:49 PM
Where's the light on the back of the funnel from Dave??
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Post by: Number 6 on October 26, 2010, 10:07:02 PM
They're from Robbe, R1375 Deck Lamp 14x10mm, 2 in a set for 4.50. Got to put some more on the bow. Dave.  :-))

http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/robbe-deck-lamps.html (http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/robbe-deck-lamps.html)
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Post by: sailorboy61 on October 26, 2010, 10:10:13 PM
OK, right, tnx...actually think I have a couple on one of the boats I bought..
Have just got some nice hand cast LED ones from Umi, nav lights too, very realistic.
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: Number 6 on November 23, 2010, 09:52:54 PM
Made some more modifications to the springer. She's already got a fair few rescues under her belt so had the idea of fitting a working crane on the stern. So I've now got fitted the spring loaded gantry off my Paula III and the working winch! Made use of it first time on the water with it fitted when one of our club members got his PT15 caught up in branches overhanging the lakeside. Gantry was swung out and hook lowered to snag railings to pull stricken vessel out. Going to charge recovery or claim salvage soon! Dave.  :-))
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Post by: The long Build on February 16, 2011, 12:56:40 PM
Firstly , what a great Build.

I have Question, looking at the picture below is the Kort Nozzle the correct way around ?.  its just I thought and probably wrongly that the smaller opening was towards the bow with the larger outer area towards the stern ?.  or does it make no difference  (Its just I am fitting one and can not make up my mind which way it should be..as others I have seen are the same both sides.

Be-Seeing You..

Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: Number 6 on February 17, 2011, 08:23:38 AM
Hi there, cheers for the compliment. The wide opening of the Kort faces towards the bow, narrow to the stern. It forces the water through the slightly narrower opening giving more 'thrust'. You'll also notice on mine that the Kort mount is on the outside of the hull, usually they're inside but I was limited with the amount of room I'd got to play with. The gantry on the back has been a great addition too, very handy for rescuing other boats as I can just hook onto the railings, also good for removing big branches out of the lake!
I'll probably be taking her to Ellesmere next month for a bit of a play on the water. Cheers, Dave.
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Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on February 17, 2011, 09:50:36 AM
The deck crane is a nice addition.

 8)
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: The long Build on February 17, 2011, 12:40:15 PM
Hi there, cheers for the compliment.
You'll also notice on mine that the Kort mount is on the outside of the hull, usually they're inside but I was limited with the amount of room I'd got to play with.

Well us Citizens of The Village have got to stick to together.. :-))

I did wonder about the mount but it looked so right I never really questioned it.. :}

Larry R
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Post by: Number 6 on February 17, 2011, 01:08:01 PM
Well I've been stuck in The Village for years and only get out on good behaviour. Andy from Models By Design has commented on the Kort too but after he saw it at Blackpool he agreed it works well. Runs for hours and hours on a 7.2v 4500mAh battery too, Dave.
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: The long Build on February 17, 2011, 01:09:10 PM
Well I've been stuck in The Village for years and only get out on good behaviour. Andy from Models By Design has commented on the Kort too but after he saw it at Blackpool he agreed it works well. Runs for hours and hours on a 7.2v 4500mAh battery too, Dave.

What Motor is it running ?
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: Number 6 on February 17, 2011, 01:19:27 PM
Hi there, it's a Graupner Speed 600-Eco (No 3323) or Graupner Speed 600 7.2v (No 1793), the sticker has come off so I'm not 100% sure which! Dave.  :-))
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: The long Build on February 17, 2011, 01:21:52 PM
Cheers , will look forward to seeing it run it at Ellesmere Port..  :-))
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: offshore1987 on July 19, 2012, 12:03:52 PM
Looks ace  :-))

Dan
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: steamshed on July 19, 2012, 07:19:36 PM
Hi Dave
Do you have more photo's of the internal layout please
Mike
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: offshore1987 on July 20, 2012, 03:43:38 PM
Hi Dave
Do you have more photo's of the internal layout please
Mike

Would also like to see a pic or two of the inside if pos?

Thank you

Dan
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: Netleyned on July 20, 2012, 05:27:24 PM
Heres a general view of a models by design hull using 2 6V4.5AH gel cells for long running and ballast.
540 watercooled motor,mtronics 15A plugnplay esc and a Radiolink 2.4GHz Rx
with the two gel cells it will run all day!

Ned
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: steamshed on July 20, 2012, 06:22:26 PM
Ned
Thanks for that
Mike
Title: Re: My First Springer/Pusher
Post by: offshore1987 on July 20, 2012, 09:48:26 PM
Thanks also, looks tobe more room than i had thought

Thanks

Dan