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Title: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on April 24, 2012, 06:20:40 pm
Good news just in. The Portsmouth Model Boat Display Team have secured the contract to refit HMS Victory.
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on April 24, 2012, 06:43:51 pm
No, not THAT HMS Victory, obviously...
We were contacted by a nice lady from the Shore Establishment HMS Collingwood in Gosport ( Or Fareham, one or the other!), asking if we would be interested in having a go at a restoration job. We have done a couple of these in the past for the navy and actually came highly recommended {-). So we tootled off to Collingwood, through security and to an old drill hall, replete with rope equipment, old tents and that smell of old drill hall. Lurking at the end of the hall was this....
(http://s18.postimage.org/ei1nn77np/IMG_4217.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ei1nn77np/)
It was 12' long on a base 38" wide, clearly it was not going to fit in our clubhouse and the work would need to be done on site. Quite a lot of work in fact!

(http://s16.postimage.org/zg2roblsh/IMG_4204.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/zg2roblsh/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/q8fl4ql1t/IMG_4208.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/q8fl4ql1t/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/csskfack1/IMG_4211.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/csskfack1/)

(http://s17.postimage.org/odt3c2a17/IMG_4212.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/odt3c2a17/)

(http://s17.postimage.org/lxr9y7ryj/IMG_4213.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/lxr9y7ryj/)

(http://s17.postimage.org/ej1y5u62z/IMG_4214.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ej1y5u62z/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/c24fn8zkh/IMG_4215.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/c24fn8zkh/)
The masts had been damaged and patched up a number of times, spars were missing, bits of ship were rolling around on deck, it had an 'interesting' interpretation of the real ships 'black and buff', plus it had stern decoration straight off of a wedding cake!
We said yes, a bid was made and we sat back and waited...
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: Footski on April 24, 2012, 07:02:55 pm
Ah an early version with open stern. Beautiful. A big job though, but could be superb when done.. :-)
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on April 25, 2012, 09:39:18 am
It seems to be a bit of a mish mash of old Victory and new Victory. We have decided to go with a bit of a compromise finish, representing her as she is now, with an enhanced stern as is, in the pictures.
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: essex2visuvesi on April 25, 2012, 11:58:40 am
are you going to RC it? :D
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: TailUK on April 25, 2012, 01:11:14 pm
Hope you'll post some hi-res pics of your progress, nice project!
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on April 26, 2012, 05:13:30 pm
Well, we won the bid and the work began..
(http://s16.postimage.org/m1ne3aztt/IMG_5105.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/m1ne3aztt/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/knvr800kh/IMG_5107.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/knvr800kh/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/ql4olxo0x/IMG_5108.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ql4olxo0x/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/6rskt8an5/IMG_5109.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6rskt8an5/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/cn44xoyxj/IMG_5115.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/cn44xoyxj/)

(http://s17.postimage.org/4cmgk9twr/IMG_5110.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4cmgk9twr/)

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Following a look over the model, and a brief vacuum up of many years of muck, we attacked it from a number of directions.
The Cathead was adrift on the bow, this was refitted with a 4mm stainless steel pin epoxied into it.
One of the spars had a new section spliced into it with beech dowel.
The standing rigging and ratlines are actually braided steel and have survived well, the cordage, however is much more rotten and will need replacing in many places.l

Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on April 26, 2012, 05:16:59 pm
The model has been stored away for many years partially de-rigged. Fortunately, most of the rigging still existed when we started. A fair amount has been chopped off and disgarded. We felt it better to start afresh than patch up old and potentially weak rigging.
(http://s16.postimage.org/yyxcdb65d/IMG_5112.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/yyxcdb65d/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/k48qz4wkh/IMG_5113.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/k48qz4wkh/)

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Colin and Helen discussing the best bits to keep and the best bits to hack off. result-much hacking.
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on April 26, 2012, 05:22:31 pm
Initially we were told the model had been languishing up country for many years. It was the lifes work of a gentleman who donated it to the Navy. This tempered our initial plans to repaint it in early colours to match the stern decoration. lots of varnished woodwork, plus a bit of black and white. However, as it was his lifes work, we decided to present it in a 'representation' of its colours at Trafalgar and as preserved to the present day. We had to do something about the 'Starsky and Hutch, A-Team Van' style upper yellow stripe at the stern though!
(http://s17.postimage.org/c3l9j8lgr/IMG_5133.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/c3l9j8lgr/)
Chairman Graham for scale..
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on April 26, 2012, 05:28:29 pm
The latest information relating to the history of the model is as follows;
It was presented to HMS St Vincent by the RN Barracks, Portsmouth around about 1935. It could have been built on site as there was a Shipwrights Department within the barracks, or it may have been commissioned by the barracks and built in the Victory Workshops. So ,it may well not be anyones lifes work after all. It has had a refit possibly in the 70s or 80s, indicated by the plastic decoration around the stern gallery.
(http://s11.postimage.org/40bdhyycv/IMG_5124.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/40bdhyycv/)
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on April 26, 2012, 05:51:45 pm
The build up of the model is pretty impressive. It is 'bread and butter' construction with a hull wall thickness of 3" on average. We think it is oak. there is a 3" square batten running down the centreline, with two similar battens athwartships at 1/3 and 2/3 hull length.
The model has authentic looking rigging, which might point to the Victory Workshop being responsible for its construction, but some other points which come up later in the refit pointing another way completely....
(http://s16.postimage.org/yy1n8hpep/IMG_5118.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/yy1n8hpep/)
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on April 26, 2012, 05:54:53 pm
We are letting our members excel in the production of beatifully scarfed joints, accurate rigging throughout, and the use of more 'modern' methods to advance the build!
(http://s14.postimage.org/b5xdu56kd/IMG_5120.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/b5xdu56kd/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/ku7m5mvyf/IMG_5126.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ku7m5mvyf/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/kwrhsgzlz/IMG_5131.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/kwrhsgzlz/)
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on April 26, 2012, 06:11:03 pm
The decoration round the bow was a bit on the heavy side, in both appearance and actual weight of timber.
(http://s13.postimage.org/ocdn29v8j/IMG_5128.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ocdn29v8j/)
Too make the appearance of this support structure look a little bit more 'delicate', I decided on one of my now famous bodges! With a Permagrit file, I tapered the holes slightly. enlarging the holes while reducing ( apparently ) the timber thickness. To test my theory I then slapped paint on it to see...In the spirit of the build, it was an improvement.

(http://s16.postimage.org/fwjh6vie9/IMG_5129.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/fwjh6vie9/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/42ukbnf79/IMG_5130.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/42ukbnf79/)
One problem we will face with this build is the sheer height of the beast as illustrated.

(http://s7.postimage.org/uxlro63mf/IMG_5116.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/uxlro63mf/)
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on April 26, 2012, 06:21:20 pm
That was the end of week one. Lots still to do.
We are at week seven of the refit at the moment, but you will have to wait a while to see the model as she is now. Thanks for the interest :-))
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: romanjohn on April 27, 2012, 12:05:34 am
alan ask the captain very nicely to rig a scaffold tower you HAVE ORDERED MY BOAT YET  CHEERS  ROMANJOHN
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: romanjohn on April 27, 2012, 08:03:22 am
hi alan i forgot to add with scaffold you need safety harness hard hat goggles safety boots and WINGS  romanjohn
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: triumphjon on April 27, 2012, 08:39:31 am
then you wont be able to carry out th task in hand  ! what ever did we do before all this elf n saftey crap !
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: Shipmate60 on April 27, 2012, 08:42:23 am
Some job you have there but looking good in pics so far.
It is great to see an old model getting a new lease of life.
I do hope she will be on display after all your hard work.

Bob
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: Bob K on April 27, 2012, 08:49:43 am
what ever did we do before all this elf n saftey 'rubbish' !


Sail ships like HMS Victory
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: essex2visuvesi on April 27, 2012, 09:07:35 am
Sail ships like HMS Victory

And small children operated large machines
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/Child_workers_in_Newton,_NC.jpg)
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unicorn on April 27, 2012, 12:02:50 pm


               This was the final result of the "Club`s" first HMS Victory restoration project  --  which was commissioned by one of the
     departments in HM Dockyard --  for repairing a broken bowsprit, various masts and spars, rigging and cleaning decades of dust.

                                                                                                 rgds unicorn

   P.S. I must admit Bob K`s photo bears an uncanny resemblance to the Club`s current  Victory work party
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unicorn on April 27, 2012, 12:11:48 pm


               The broken bowsprit
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on April 27, 2012, 05:58:15 pm
Week Two begins, and its proper cold in our little room at HMS Collingwood!
(http://s18.postimage.org/56449wyit/IMG_5219.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/56449wyit/)

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Many bits are being removed from the model, some for restoration, some for re-building, and some for the dustbin. Tools are all over the place and John gets to start his 'favourite' part of the build, rigging :-))
The signal flags are almost displaying the correct 'England Expects..' message, almost.
And we are sharing the room with many, many Fire Extinguishers.
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: Netleyned on April 27, 2012, 06:05:33 pm
Collingwood was always cold when I was an apprentice
There at the start of the 60's.

Ned
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on April 27, 2012, 06:06:15 pm
Some parts that are missing get rebuilt, cannon ports out of oak, seems appropriate.
(http://s16.postimage.org/k80rxfy81/IMG_5227.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/k80rxfy81/)
Colin gets to work early on his specialist subjects, heavy woodwork and swearing for the Queen, he should get a medal...

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(http://s18.postimage.org/o57x56p51/IMG_5230.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/o57x56p51/)

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The parts for the main mast are a combination of newly manufactured and cleaned up original parts, while the replacement mast is from beech. all nice and tough, with the added benefit that the upper mast can be removed if needed.

(http://s16.postimage.org/bh2xuntoh/IMG_5232.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/bh2xuntoh/)
Meanwhile, point the Charman, sorry Chairman ( possibly right first time ) at a bit and say "paint it black.." The yellow had to go, so all trace was removed with a couple of coats of Blackboard Paint.
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on April 27, 2012, 06:10:51 pm

(http://s13.postimage.org/ps42gmd5v/IMG_5236.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ps42gmd5v/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/ako2w9lb7/IMG_5238.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ako2w9lb7/)

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(http://s13.postimage.org/apwfjoi03/IMG_5248.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/apwfjoi03/)
Up close you can see the tool marks on the hull sides, which I think adds to the charm of the model, real old ships look rough up close, so we have no intention of doing anything about the finish on this model. Warm light provided by our only source of heat other than tea <:(
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on April 27, 2012, 06:15:38 pm

(http://s15.postimage.org/8et9uw6g7/IMG_5241.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/8et9uw6g7/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/3u73fymqv/IMG_5242.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/3u73fymqv/)

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In these close ups you can see the amount of loose cordage needing to go somewhere, some of the Deadeyes ( 1" Diameter! ) are in need of re-threading, but remarkably, we do not appear to be missing any. Also, the Chainplates are actually helping to keep the mast up. Not just for show, they are brass plate with a copper nail through them.
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on April 27, 2012, 06:20:36 pm
Finally a view of 'The Black Pig' as she has become known, following her primer coat of black.
(http://s11.postimage.org/y15k3sh1r/IMG_5257.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/y15k3sh1r/)

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(http://s11.postimage.org/t51xc3gwf/IMG_5261.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/t51xc3gwf/)
The beatifully rendered water 'effect' is for the chop. Two reasons, it looks pants, and Graham got black paint all over it anyway!
Thats week two done, here we were hoping for warmer weather....


Also note. it is always a quarter to six ( 5:45am or pm? ) cos the clock has no batteries in, MOD cutbacks :-)
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: romanjohn on April 27, 2012, 09:23:20 pm
well done lads its going to look fantasic when its finishd  romanjohn
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: romanjohn on April 27, 2012, 11:05:30 pm
hi alan will helen be doing the the superb resin work on the stern as on our h m s victory at the club  romanjohn
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on April 28, 2012, 09:24:38 am
hi alan will helen be doing the the superb resin work on the stern as on our h m s victory at the club  romanjohn
Yes, along with the two cherubs around the bow decoration.
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: Bob K on April 28, 2012, 10:27:35 am
Wonderful restoration work.  Fascinating.

Perhaps the reason the Dockyard decided to sub this work out is indicated by current Navy model making skills as depicted on this BBC news item today.
"Cardboard boats aid Nato war games off Scotland"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-17868317 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-17868317)
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on April 28, 2012, 12:15:17 pm

"Cardboard boats aid Nato war games off Scotland"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-17868317 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-17868317)
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Perhaps I can be persuaded to detail the build of our cardboard Mary Rose at some time, 10' long, used once and sunk, contents returned to the nearest bin afterwards ok2
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 01, 2012, 06:17:07 pm
Week three begins..
(http://s16.postimage.org/ow20x5j6p/IMG_5262.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ow20x5j6p/)

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(http://s14.postimage.org/8c5b19h4t/IMG_5270.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/8c5b19h4t/)
Knees (?) in plywood, cut out as four at once, taped together by Colin. Painted by yours truly. How to paint them without getting fingerprints on them? Superglue them to a bit of timber, paint and snap off after.
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 01, 2012, 06:22:39 pm
This was the time for serious demolition and replacing of parts. details around hatches had been realised with plastic decoration edging, nice, but not suitable for Victory. Off it all came to be replaced with batten.
(http://s16.postimage.org/pw63y32ht/IMG_5265.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/pw63y32ht/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/ng9uobx19/IMG_5263.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ng9uobx19/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/vwd7ay95z/IMG_5268.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/vwd7ay95z/)
The varnished decks were showing years of neglect through dust build up, also a mystery wine red border had been painted around the entire deck edge. we decided to sand that away in preparation for new layers of satin varnish. Some of the lower deck gratings are being kept, some are being re-built. Some of the main deck details defy description and are being scrapped!
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 01, 2012, 06:27:42 pm
The serious work of rigging replacement started at week three. We had salvaged almost all of the deadeyes from the model but chose to re-rig all the upper ones, as the cordage was literally crumbling in our hands. A fair amount of the vertical lines are braided steel, which made our work a bit easier, as these did not need replacement. However, some lines were missing and we had to purchase 15 metres from our local B&Q store.
(http://s18.postimage.org/s2fm7h951/IMG_5267.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/s2fm7h951/)

(http://s17.postimage.org/8vbbdibnf/IMG_5269.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/8vbbdibnf/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/6fi87fraf/IMG_5279.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6fi87fraf/)
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 01, 2012, 06:33:26 pm
The 'wedding cake' stern needed some addressing, following work with a chisel removing the majority of the plastic decoration, Helen got to work on a bit of visual fakery!
(http://s12.postimage.org/3ucfaflrd/IMG_5264.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/3ucfaflrd/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/o9ly9ywrl/IMG_5271.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/o9ly9ywrl/)

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(http://s14.postimage.org/od7jp3app/IMG_5278.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/od7jp3app/)
Taking a mold from the existing ballustrade posts, Helen molded off a number more. The stern was prepared with masking tape to get a level. The ( half ) ballustrades were then glued in position, matching the existing 'fan' profile of the decoration, while filling in the broad gaps
left by the removal of the original squirrly details.
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 01, 2012, 06:35:14 pm
Coming to the rescue at the bow also, Helen produced two Cherubs, shown here being test fitted to the figurehead area.
(http://s16.postimage.org/urimypba9/IMG_5280.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/urimypba9/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/47q1wkaqp/IMG_5281.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/47q1wkaqp/)
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 01, 2012, 06:49:20 pm
Week Four...
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A bit of new decoration for the bow area, flag lockers at the stern, notice the blue cloth is gone. The model was sitting on the cloth with NO SCREWS holding it to the base board. Since remedied with three 4" wood screws. The view from under the model  is less than interesting...
The new bowsprit takes the model out to 14' in length, I hope they have a big display case for this beast :-)
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 01, 2012, 06:51:07 pm
No sooner is the stern detailing complete, than the Chairman arrives with the black paint...
(http://s7.postimage.org/49r3h96hj/IMG_5395.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/49r3h96hj/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/xnp6923k5/IMG_5402.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/xnp6923k5/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/7gskquao5/IMG_5403.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/7gskquao5/)
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 01, 2012, 06:56:50 pm

(http://s8.postimage.org/eylcpbuld/IMG_5398.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/eylcpbuld/)

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The first picture shows the first of the ships boats, from solid pine, sitting on the newly built gratings.
Photo two, illustrates the heights these people will go to deny me a pork pie!
Photo three, the quarter deck, looking like a half finished decorating job. notice the deck has been sanded back, awaiting varnish. Also note the newly built railings around the stairwell. Not forgetting the really nice diagonal planking on the rear bulwark, a remnant from the original build.
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 01, 2012, 07:03:40 pm

(http://s14.postimage.org/cbm9p6e4d/IMG_5404.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/cbm9p6e4d/)
Signal flags, these are hanging like drying washing, all over the place. They seem to be painted canvas, good news as they can be curled and posed as if the wind is blowing them.

(http://s17.postimage.org/l54fye8hn/IMG_5405.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/l54fye8hn/)
New main mast, still quarter to six...

(http://s7.postimage.org/svhlz53x3/IMG_5407.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/svhlz53x3/)
Wood stain and coloured varnish applied to the bow sprit and boat deck gratings.

(http://s14.postimage.org/4cr3lldrx/IMG_5409.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4cr3lldrx/)
NOT our chosen method of fixing the spars, this is only temporary...

(http://s10.postimage.org/bmfnmdpb9/IMG_5408.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/bmfnmdpb9/)
One of our first completed upper ratlines replacements, notice the steel bar threaded through the vertical lines as a spacer. This job takes ages, and we usually have one or two members on it at a time.
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 01, 2012, 07:07:01 pm
The original ratlines are correctly tied ( unlike ours!) and I took a couple of photos for reference.
(http://s17.postimage.org/mbm82f0xn/IMG_5410.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/mbm82f0xn/)

(http://s17.postimage.org/pwmozduuz/IMG_5412.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/pwmozduuz/)
The original stern lanterns were far too small for the job and were replaced with a combination of my woodwork and Helens clay work.

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"high five!" for the Cherubs....

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Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 01, 2012, 07:10:09 pm

(http://s7.postimage.org/q6remuntj/IMG_5416.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/q6remuntj/)

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Rigging, by God, it goes on forever. No sooner than one mast is completed, the next one has had all it rotten old cordage removed and its on to that one <:(

(http://s16.postimage.org/yzx802xk1/IMG_5423.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/yzx802xk1/)
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 01, 2012, 07:15:25 pm
As you can see, lots of little jobs for the build team, Chairman Graham, Rigging John, Colin, Victor, Helen and me. Two visits a week on average, is getting it done. not everyone can make it all the time, but we are getting there. A bonus is that for the last ten minutes of a build session, the model gets cleaned up, and we can stand back and see how she looks...
(http://s11.postimage.org/7do7ijzcv/IMG_5419.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/7do7ijzcv/)

(http://s11.postimage.org/kj3pont8f/IMG_5421.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/kj3pont8f/)

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And now she is starting to look good again :-))
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: Shipmate60 on May 01, 2012, 08:08:04 pm
She is starting to look good, well done all!!

Bob
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: triumphjon on May 01, 2012, 09:52:37 pm
i dont blame them for hiding all the pies , im sure you know the ditty about who ate all the pies , as you know they all end up on your waist band !  restoration is looking very good
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 05, 2012, 05:59:31 pm
Week five we got the paint, B&Qs closest match using a chip chart and our Victory, painted in proper Victory paint....not a good match, still looks good mind.
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Digging through the old pale yellow colour, I came across what looks like an original ochre colour, which is a better match to the original colour. despite that, on with our Sunset Yellow or whatever stupid name they have given it..
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 05, 2012, 06:05:17 pm

(http://s16.postimage.org/jv06zxlsx/IMG_5438.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/jv06zxlsx/)

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While Helen is working on the blunt end I am working on the sharp end.
The last picture is a good example of what happens when you paint acrylic paint over enamel paint, while still soft. In fact, dont do it at all! So we waited till the next Wednesday and overcoated it again, all was fine.
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 05, 2012, 06:11:38 pm

(http://s10.postimage.org/k780n6hdh/IMG_5436.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/k780n6hdh/)

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The aft deck has now had a coat of satin varnish, while the main deck is still looking sorry for itself. Main deck has, however been sanded in preparation for varnishing. There is still a fair amount of work to do here before we slap on the varnish,
The last two shots indicate what I am like with a pot of paint and a paintbrush, "What can I paint next? I know..." Probably a bit too yellow at the moment :embarrassed:
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 05, 2012, 06:16:30 pm

(http://s18.postimage.org/burgfdhgl/IMG_5433.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/burgfdhgl/)

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Much general rigging is still to be done, the task of rigging going to John and Graham this time.
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 05, 2012, 06:21:01 pm

(http://s12.postimage.org/xoxi6y2pl/IMG_5463.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/xoxi6y2pl/)
The stern lanterns are a combination of solid timber, fine modelling clay, and now, twisted tinned copper wire for the supports. The wire has been drilled into the base to a depth of about 30mm, also, once tinned it was soldered for extra strength. The idea is to provide a strong, yet slightly flexible support in case they recieve a knock at any time. just bend them back into position.
Paper tape has been wrapped around them, followed by three coats of blackboard paint, and finally fake glass courtesy of a 4H pencil..
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 05, 2012, 06:28:07 pm

(http://s13.postimage.org/t1cin79wz/IMG_5452.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/t1cin79wz/)

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Considering the amount of damage the model had experienced over its years, we decided to beef it up a bit by fitting braided steel stays from each mast, to the deck. From the lower fighting tops to the deck, two running aft and outboard, and one running forward and to the next mast. I have a similar system on HMS Dolphin, with adjustable bowsies fitted, and that keeps her masts up. therefore, a more permanent system with crimps, should provide a degree of protection around them low door frames!
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 05, 2012, 06:32:52 pm


(http://s11.postimage.org/pgi8zyien/IMG_5469.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/pgi8zyien/)

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at the end of the day, the yellow paint was looking fine, it did take about a week for the gloss finish to die down a bit though. Also, an example of the fine, and not so fine ropework on the model, this time on one of the anchors.
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 05, 2012, 06:35:47 pm

(http://s17.postimage.org/5jr98jph7/IMG_5465.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/5jr98jph7/)

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The  final three shots of the day show the model, with bowsprit on dissapearing out through the door of the building, she may be a bit of a challenge to move when finished.
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: romanjohn on May 06, 2012, 05:38:51 am
hi alan victory is looking great just had breakfast then of to beal park with graham taking trawler and H D M L  ROMANJOHN
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 16, 2012, 06:27:54 pm
Week Six begins, John has manufactured a new aft skylight to replace the grandstand that was there originally! The aft lanterns are now fitted, Wood stain is being applied to some of the recently sanded old wood around hatches. some pillock has painted the belfy (?) yellow.
(http://s17.postimage.org/rkbbny4i3/IMG_6034.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/rkbbny4i3/)

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We are keeping some of the gratings, just painting them matt black. this takes the edge off their looks just a bit. They were a bit garish with the varnish on them!

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The decks are being sanded back in preparation for a varnish. A cloth scrim has been bonded to the plywood base as a key for the soon to applied water effects.
(http://s11.postimage.org/hrpjit0pb/IMG_6038.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/hrpjit0pb/)
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 16, 2012, 06:33:41 pm
Its time for stripes, yellow stripes. i have been dreading this bit, shouldn't have volunteered really...
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I am using photos of our 1/32 scale victory for reference. the original banding was a bit off in its positioning, to say the least. This was a 'fingers crossed' moment, that the hull details were more accurate than the original banding, as the banding would have to navigate its way around cannon ports etc, in its journey from bow to stern.
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 16, 2012, 06:38:13 pm

(http://s13.postimage.org/mezyolker/IMG_6047.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/mezyolker/)

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The yellow paint is a satin, apparently :o. the model needs two coats of this stuff, one, a fairly fast and thin coat to key the surface, and a second coat about an hour later, and somewhat thicker. Victory looks mighty strange with what looks like black, white and yellow stripes at this point.
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 16, 2012, 06:40:53 pm

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Tape on. Tape off. The old girl is starting to look the part at last.
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 16, 2012, 06:50:05 pm

(http://s13.postimage.org/54rxfjmab/IMG_6063.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/54rxfjmab/)

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The aft deck has just received its first coat of satin varnish, which has brought out the colour in the deck nicely. Main deck now sanded down, awaiting varnish.
(http://s17.postimage.org/vyyi7rh3f/IMG_6046.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/vyyi7rh3f/)
The stern lanterns viewed from inboard, showing the oak flag lockers recently fitted by Colin.

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You know when you stand back from a recently completed task, take one look at it, and slap your forehead? well, thats what I did once I looked at the yellow banding around the hull. The middle banding is just that bit too small. needs to be about 1/8" deeper than it is. not that much of a problem as the curve has now been established, and the lower part of the middle banding is the clearest as far as applying a new run of masking tape is concerned. So I very generously volunteered Chairman Graham to do the job on his next Wednesday visit, am I not generous?
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 16, 2012, 07:01:33 pm

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The final job of the day being the Artex Sea. Using a 10kg bag of the stuff, this turned out to be a three man job, Graham with the bucket, stirring ( Well ,he is the Chairman, we all play to our strengths! ) John, slopping on and general forming, and me, wave tickling :-)

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The model will be depicted at anchor, in muddy green Solent waters. So the bow is facing into the wind, while the waves brush past the hull, heading aft. discussion with a  Naval Officer who stuck his head in, indicated that one of the first signs that you are reaching your home port of Portsmouth is the McDonalds wrappers and Coke bottles floating in the water. a short discussion followed, where we decided NOT to include a Coke bottle drifting past the stern of the ship!

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That bought week 6 to an end. our next weekend was to be taken up by a big show in the dockyard at Action Stations. so no activity for the next ten days in total. time for the Artex to set :-))
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 18, 2012, 06:22:06 pm

(http://s14.postimage.org/j43u701x9/IMG_6184.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/j43u701x9/)

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Week seven saw the Ratlines finished, at last. The decks were ready for the next coat of varnish, unfortunately our satin varnish had skinned over, so a coat of gloss varnish went on instead. not strictly accurate, but in the models upcoming role as a 'gate guard', it seemed totally appropriate.

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The ships boats were test fitted next, Vic has been working on this part of the model 'off site' and it was good to see the results so far.

(http://s13.postimage.org/7d11zpxcj/IMG_6189.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/7d11zpxcj/)
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 18, 2012, 06:30:36 pm
Bit by bit all the Standing Rigging is being given a coat of gloss black by Graham, he seems to get stuck into the role with gusto. going home at the end of a session looking like a child coming home from a lesson in finger painting at playschool!
This week we were informed that a home has been found for the model, and will it be able to fit through a door 1.6m wide by 1.8m high? :o
Bearing in mind that the lower spar on the main mast is 1.6m wide and a bit more problematic is the fact the model is 2.75m tall at the moment....fortunately we had not attached the upper segments of the fore and main mast at this point. However, some gentle persuasion was still neccessary to lower the main mast to fit this ( rather small ) door. This has resulted in our steel hawsers going slack, defeating the main purpose of them. we can fix this, oh yes O0
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 18, 2012, 06:45:45 pm
Time to let me loose with a paintbrush.......
(http://s16.postimage.org/61km6mb9t/IMG_6192.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/61km6mb9t/)

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The last restoration the team carried out had Mediterranean Blue seas, beautiful to look at. this time i wanted Solent Dirty Green, not quite Lee on Solent Brown, but not far off {-)
A tube of cheap acrylic blue/green, plus white and black were purchased from Wilkinsons, about 95 pence a tube ( half a dozen tubes in fact. Only needed two blue/greens and one each of white and black in the end.). Dont add more blues, just use one, and add variety with either white or black to lighten or darken it. i had a more green green, which I tried, looked pants, painted over it.

(http://s16.postimage.org/4pgp9yhzl/IMG_6196.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4pgp9yhzl/)
Around the hull I used almost black in the water, to simulate the hull dissapearing below the surface. this was blended out into the green water colour about 3/4" out from the hull. I also used the black effect below the transom, I can remember looking at water, in shade, around a big ship when I were little, and the overwhelming thing I remember was black water.

(http://s15.postimage.org/h0shwe9c7/IMG_6203.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/h0shwe9c7/)

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With this lot finished, week seven draws to a close. we are currently at week ten and this weekend should see the project completed, and I for one am looking forward to going down the lake and playing boats again! However, we dont want to get ahead of ourselves just yet....
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: BrianB6 on May 19, 2012, 06:57:45 am
Sorry. You got the sea colour wrong!     ;D ;D
It should be flourecent green as per the S.S. Great Britain.   {-)
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: triumphjon on May 19, 2012, 08:07:12 am
dont know what they have done to it , last time i was there it was a blueish clear , which is actually glass , your now able to walk under this to veiw the underside of the hull !  although i dont remember , i was actually present when they brought her " HOME " , as a young person we lived in st peters house , hotwells , which is directly opposite the drydock she now lives in !
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 19, 2012, 02:03:52 pm
THE GREAT MOP ROBBERY OF OLD COLLINGWOOD TOWN.

We moved on to bowsprit work next. Working under the assumption that the model would need to be struck down slightly, to fit through a pre-determined size of hole. The bowsprit would need to be removable, otherwise it adds over 48" to the model. We decided to put the join in half way down its length.
(http://s18.postimage.org/c3wagaw0l/IMG_6234.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/c3wagaw0l/)

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A balsa wood spacer was fashioned to keep the bow sprit sections all running parallel to each other, however, what we needed was a tube to slide the bowsprit dowel into. This we did not have. The suggestion that we bring something next time was met by the slightly wild eyed, stir crazy members comments that we want this project finished, not delayed another three days. Following a quick scan around our prison, our eyes fell on a rack full of aluminium mops. Colin said ( yes, it was Colin..) "chop a bit off of one end of one of them!" These are MOD mops, paid for by the tax payer, you in fact. However, we reasoned, we were only recycling, not pinching anything. Nothing would be leaving the base, so what would be the problem?
(http://s16.postimage.org/x3eowt7u9/IMG_6232.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/x3eowt7u9/)
Colin, with the help of Vic, pulling the mop to bits. The Chairman was not amused, I was taking photos, so not guilty.

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Following the other members crime, we proceeded to bond the aluminium tube back in place.
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Many thieving hands making light work of the whipping.

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(http://s10.postimage.org/qyq7p2ew5/IMG_6267.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/qyq7p2ew5/)

(http://s11.postimage.org/rztmi8z3j/IMG_6256.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/rztmi8z3j/)
Once fully whipped, everything is starting to look very nice. The mop, although shorter by 4", is still fully functional. Consider it the subject of 'budget' cuts :}
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 22, 2012, 06:02:04 pm
John has been busy, aft mast now pretty much fully rigged.
(http://s16.postimage.org/45ey5hk0h/IMG_6313.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/45ey5hk0h/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/7qatopok1/IMG_6315.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/7qatopok1/)
Anybody seen the fire extinguisher?
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 22, 2012, 06:08:09 pm
As all the cordage work proceeds aloft, the boring task of chasing colours into corners goes on. Graham has been on this job, on and off, over the last two weeks, and has shown as much dedication to this cause as he has in the past towards tea. Well done :-))
(http://s17.postimage.org/6o6ntqmhn/IMG_6245.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6o6ntqmhn/)

(http://s17.postimage.org/ly6j0xhzv/IMG_6277.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ly6j0xhzv/)

(http://s17.postimage.org/wmevdihcr/IMG_6282.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/wmevdihcr/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/twr33emjh/IMG_6300.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/twr33emjh/)
Well, if you cannot be congratulated for all your hard work over the years as Chairman, you may as well receive it for something menial %)
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 22, 2012, 06:15:38 pm

(http://s9.postimage.org/f5gjvzgyz/IMG_6216.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/f5gjvzgyz/)

(http://s9.postimage.org/5yy98pbqj/IMG_6215.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/5yy98pbqj/)
Helens cherubs are now adorning the figurehead.

(http://s10.postimage.org/kodhluz9h/IMG_6246.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/kodhluz9h/)

(http://s10.postimage.org/4enbiyolh/IMG_6249.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4enbiyolh/)
The port anchor is fitted next, its original rope being glued into the appropriate hole in the bow.

(http://s18.postimage.org/mmveqexx1/IMG_6262.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/mmveqexx1/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/g5vssocd9/IMG_6310.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/g5vssocd9/)
Vic has the repainting of the crest well in hand.

(http://s17.postimage.org/5ma9gf7tn/IMG_6254.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/5ma9gf7tn/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/i3scwdut1/IMG_6263.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/i3scwdut1/)

(http://s17.postimage.org/edlvofgij/IMG_6309.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/edlvofgij/)
I get the pleasure of ' dropping ' the anchors. Apparently, if anyone else drills holes in the sea, I will just moan at them for doing it wrong, doesn't sound like me at all?
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 22, 2012, 06:22:18 pm
There was so much crud on the ships bell, that Colin took it home, put it in his lathe, and spun off all the muck at about 400rpm!
(http://s14.postimage.org/us125iu8t/IMG_6218.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/us125iu8t/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/o2uipi8wt/IMG_6228.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/o2uipi8wt/)
While all the work is going on aloft, there are feverish hands at work on lots of spars, yet to be fitted.

(http://s18.postimage.org/pzh4zspit/IMG_6279.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/pzh4zspit/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/yvrx3qg51/IMG_6280.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/yvrx3qg51/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/oxcgxlh1t/IMG_6264.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/oxcgxlh1t/)
Victor has done us proud with the ships boats, and teaching Colin how to swear like an Englishman :}

(http://s15.postimage.org/4sjvild2f/IMG_6302.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4sjvild2f/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/j8opqjm53/IMG_6303.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/j8opqjm53/)
John staring at the bowsprit, a position he was to occupy for the next three weeks!

(http://s15.postimage.org/htilbqijr/IMG_6316.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/htilbqijr/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/5sx5b0b53/IMG_6318.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/5sx5b0b53/)
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 22, 2012, 06:40:10 pm
A quick look at our workshop for the last eight weeks. What it lacked in heating, it made up for in fresh air, what it lacked in lighting, it gained by opening the door ( and letting the fresh air in ), what it lacked in toilet facilities, it made up for by having a sink ( No, we didn't use the sink for THAT, after all, we are southerners!! ), we had a kettle and four hundred fire extinguishers, what more could you need...
(http://s15.postimage.org/jvsq0uc87/IMG_6265.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/jvsq0uc87/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/6g5pbe3qf/IMG_6281.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6g5pbe3qf/)
With week eight under our belts, and Victory safely anchored in the centre of the artex sea, it was time for home..

(http://s12.postimage.org/9fzrhf7ix/IMG_6322.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/9fzrhf7ix/)
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 28, 2012, 05:46:23 pm
The lovely timber edging around the sea base has been getting progressively scruffier in the last ten weeks/thirty years. What was needed was a bit of restorer...
(http://s15.postimage.org/k905dle9z/IMG_6441.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/k905dle9z/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/ojet96jd3/IMG_6442.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ojet96jd3/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/t6kvay6pz/IMG_6443.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/t6kvay6pz/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/fe6gfbfyf/IMG_6526.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/fe6gfbfyf/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/6x6y4eb9j/IMG_6527.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6x6y4eb9j/)
This stuff is fantastic, a bit on a cloth and a quick rub over the old varnish and you can see the effect. I then used it on the green canvas looking flag lockers and lifeboat covers. Not in its job description, however, it helped with the look of them.
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on June 02, 2012, 04:14:30 pm
Anchors sir.
The big anchors are extremely heavy and needed to be attached properly. looking back over previous posts, they appear to be held up with sash weight cord.
John decided to secure them with a length of piano wire initially. Then added the neccessary lengths of cord from the pulley to the cathead. The results as follows..
(http://s15.postimage.org/4g67u2jvb/IMG_6459.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4g67u2jvb/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/8qkvpnoyf/IMG_6478.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/8qkvpnoyf/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/4vhhn35sn/IMG_6480.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4vhhn35sn/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/aamjcv377/IMG_6490.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/aamjcv377/)
"Dont drop that anchor on my water." A simple request you would think...crash, right on my lovely waves!

(http://s16.postimage.org/qm50sdegh/IMG_6481.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/qm50sdegh/)
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on June 02, 2012, 04:20:19 pm

(http://s15.postimage.org/tnlp82cd3/IMG_6455.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/tnlp82cd3/)
The Belfry is finally all black, and looking much better for it.

(http://s7.postimage.org/k19r8uwrr/IMG_6471.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/k19r8uwrr/)
'VICTORY' hand painted on the stern.

(http://s13.postimage.org/l8xsv1rsj/IMG_6477.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/l8xsv1rsj/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/4atrzotr1/IMG_6475.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4atrzotr1/)
The decks are looking very fine with their gloss varnish, bringing out the best in the plywood decks!

(http://s17.postimage.org/5v964qcl7/IMG_6512.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/5v964qcl7/)

(http://s17.postimage.org/ddsbdd3y3/IMG_6529.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ddsbdd3y3/)
The figurehead, now re-re-painted with Humbrol Gold with gold powder mixed into it.
Ships boats partly tied down.
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on June 02, 2012, 04:26:13 pm
Some close up details of the spars and the like next.
(http://s15.postimage.org/4x9szh15j/IMG_6428.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4x9szh15j/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/5o2j593iv/IMG_6435.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/5o2j593iv/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/otauc4oif/IMG_6440.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/otauc4oif/)
Birds eye view of the work so far, about 8' above the waterline..

(http://s15.postimage.org/aryuqkkyf/IMG_6463.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/aryuqkkyf/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/552ht3ifr/IMG_6465.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/552ht3ifr/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/cmbp8b7yv/IMG_6467.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/cmbp8b7yv/)
And a bit more stick reference, nicely (?) gloss varnished.

(http://s17.postimage.org/4p11bkfuj/IMG_6520.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4p11bkfuj/)

(http://s17.postimage.org/8mob0z2nv/IMG_6523.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/8mob0z2nv/)
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on June 02, 2012, 04:52:47 pm
The Bowsprit is receiving a fair amount of attention at present, much cordage being attached. Bearing in mind that a fair amount of this is now detachable.
(http://s18.postimage.org/i0vm6xv4l/IMG_6507.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/i0vm6xv4l/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/ulhe2jm29/IMG_6538.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ulhe2jm29/)
John has been on the job so long he has taken to trying to set fire to the model!

(http://s16.postimage.org/ra625yd81/IMG_6508.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ra625yd81/)

Our reference books were being worked overtime as the finish line approached..
(http://s17.postimage.org/o75c2d8hn/IMG_6536.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/o75c2d8hn/)

(http://s9.postimage.org/hl8pyzirv/IMG_6515.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/hl8pyzirv/)
That brought week ten to an end, one week to go :-))
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: Footski on June 02, 2012, 05:55:56 pm
Not too sure about that gammoning. Never seen it done that way before! Or am I missing something?
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: Footski on June 03, 2012, 03:40:39 pm
Should it not be done this way....
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on June 05, 2012, 02:36:05 pm
All we know about gammoning is how to cook them :}
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: justboatonic on June 05, 2012, 07:14:40 pm
Fascinating thread.
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on June 06, 2012, 01:43:54 pm
Thank you. The Gammoning issue, in our defence, we were replicating what was already there, also, it is pretty tough when finished. You know what these navy types will be like when they get hold of the model ok2
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: Footski on June 06, 2012, 04:03:03 pm
Thank you. The Gammoning issue, in our defence, we were replicating what was already there, also, it is pretty tough when finished. You know what these navy types will be like when they get hold of the model ok2

Yes I do understand.... :-))
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on June 07, 2012, 06:57:02 pm
Just found some images showing how it should be done..
(http://s15.postimage.org/i4kfdpm7r/DCP_1309.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/i4kfdpm7r/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/jkvxvup4n/DCP_1310.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/jkvxvup4n/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/z1mx8oxaf/DCP_1311.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/z1mx8oxaf/)

(http://s9.postimage.org/j6xn1rz0r/DCP_1324.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/j6xn1rz0r/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/nofg824ut/DCP_1328.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/nofg824ut/)
And the most important place on the ship?

(http://s7.postimage.org/h6m2rq1s7/DCP_1320.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/h6m2rq1s7/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/92dymzfd3/DCP_1321.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/92dymzfd3/)
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on June 07, 2012, 07:01:58 pm
Back to the build..Week Eleven, this is it (almost).
Firstly the mystery of the disappearing cannons. It sometimes takes eleven weeks to notice a previous builders deliberate mistake :embarrassed:
(http://s18.postimage.org/lvh6qyxlh/IMG_6696.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/lvh6qyxlh/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/mz1b2xi8l/IMG_6697.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/mz1b2xi8l/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/ypf8kbb11/IMG_6698.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ypf8kbb11/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/3wmitqwlx/IMG_6699.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/3wmitqwlx/)
our answer, they are there ( or not ) to frighten off the French!
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on June 07, 2012, 07:05:24 pm
England Expects... Colin an Vic to hang  the Trafalgar Signal with no swearing. England are S*** out of luck!
(http://s16.postimage.org/fbzy1zmc1/IMG_6661.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/fbzy1zmc1/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/7kj83fi6p/IMG_6662.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/7kj83fi6p/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/txqyq8j4h/IMG_6668.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/txqyq8j4h/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/byfcpe4r9/IMG_6670.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/byfcpe4r9/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/4whf3715h/IMG_6673.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4whf3715h/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/cdqmieqol/IMG_6674.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/cdqmieqol/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/t2wns2cnp/IMG_6693.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/t2wns2cnp/)
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on June 07, 2012, 07:09:25 pm
The ships boats receive a final lashing down, along with a spare spar we seem to have acquired, its like an MFI wardrobe, this boat.

(http://s16.postimage.org/dzrfrl3o1/IMG_6683.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/dzrfrl3o1/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/q2wrf5eq9/IMG_6691.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/q2wrf5eq9/)
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on June 07, 2012, 07:11:53 pm

(http://s7.postimage.org/m72d20hvr/IMG_6677.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/m72d20hvr/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/946qiqrnr/IMG_6680.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/946qiqrnr/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/6bdiyprbb/IMG_6687.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6bdiyprbb/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/uge8gfblz/IMG_6688.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/uge8gfblz/)
A mad frenzy gripped the team, as we scurried around the model looking for bits that we had missed, Paint, pulley blocks and string seemed the order of the day.
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on June 07, 2012, 07:16:21 pm

(http://s7.postimage.org/7pecli5c7/IMG_6656.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/7pecli5c7/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/cpbstgayv/IMG_6657.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/cpbstgayv/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/purazk4uf/IMG_6660.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/purazk4uf/)
More stringage is added around the model.

(http://s13.postimage.org/5tx13o9f7/IMG_6663.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/5tx13o9f7/)
John is looking desperately for more work to do to the model, he will be wearing that book soon!

(http://s18.postimage.org/yv5yqp191/IMG_6666.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/yv5yqp191/)
I am put in charge of yellow string!

(http://s13.postimage.org/s0vo14qlv/IMG_6675.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/s0vo14qlv/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/3lng02roz/IMG_6692.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/3lng02roz/)
Which leads to copper wire...
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on June 07, 2012, 07:19:16 pm

(http://s16.postimage.org/wxuhkx781/IMG_6664.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/wxuhkx781/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/d4mz5yj81/IMG_6672.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/d4mz5yj81/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/um0qbqd2v/IMG_6671.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/um0qbqd2v/)
Pulley blocks, possibly not in the correct position, but fulfilling the role of 'detailing widgets*'!






*See Star Wars, The Making Of.....
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on June 07, 2012, 07:23:05 pm
Cometh The Day, Cometh the Hour, its Grand Reveal time. Or put another way, four people breaking their backs to drag the model into daylight, so that the humble people of Mathem can see Victory in all her glory :}
(http://s7.postimage.org/4t9p46t1j/IMG_6700.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4t9p46t1j/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/wj6a54hvr/IMG_6701.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/wj6a54hvr/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/6owhfchvr/IMG_6702.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6owhfchvr/)
As you can see, it fits through the door.
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on June 07, 2012, 07:24:58 pm

(http://s14.postimage.org/ahjkpd0v1/IMG_6703.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ahjkpd0v1/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/l5nbo7au5/IMG_6704.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/l5nbo7au5/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/82rp4xkm5/IMG_6705.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/82rp4xkm5/)
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on June 07, 2012, 07:29:16 pm
From this, three months ago...
(http://s12.postimage.org/d9d4we7zt/IMG_4208.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)

(http://s12.postimage.org/67f7a74e1/IMG_4211.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/67f7a74e1/)

(http://s12.postimage.org/ahtv5s9h5/IMG_4214.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ahtv5s9h5/)
To this, at the end of May....

(http://s13.postimage.org/qtdlejs1f/IMG_6709.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/qtdlejs1f/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/j1wvfznw3/IMG_6710.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/j1wvfznw3/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/ry7njxeib/IMG_6713.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ry7njxeib/)
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on June 07, 2012, 07:39:41 pm
Its done, mostly. Thanks to Chairman Graham for painting everything black, tedious ratlines and getting us into HMS Collingwood on a regular basis. for those of you that have met the members, you can see that we would appear to pose a security risk, even if only as gypsies. Rigging John, for rigging, bowsprits, polishing potions etc, Colin, for all the heavy wood turning, excellent removable masts, all the little bits and pieces around the model, Victor, for the ships boats, cannons, keeping Colin in line, Helen, for figureheads, transom decoration, the easy bit of the lanterns, and Me, for demanding biscuits, water effects and yellow stripes. Plus all of us for string, knots and superglue fingers.
(http://s14.postimage.org/9msw8ykkd/IMG_6669.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/9msw8ykkd/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/76r2v42hp/IMG_6711.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/76r2v42hp/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/jzf6v1e3h/IMG_6712.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/jzf6v1e3h/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/3pqee9pyv/IMG_6715.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/3pqee9pyv/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/lh20sq5dj/IMG_6720.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/lh20sq5dj/)
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: romanjohn on June 12, 2012, 10:29:14 pm
portsmouth model boat display team.  well done gang super job romanjohn
Title: Re: HMS Victory Restoration
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on July 18, 2013, 05:19:58 pm
The Victory model has finally reached its display location at HMS Collingwood. This did require the model being transported up four flights of stairs! We had built in the ability to partly de-rig the model, so that's what we did.
Once de-rigged, we were ushered away for a cup of tea, while the lifters and shifters did their bit. After our tea break, all the hard work was done and it was over to us to re-rig and make good any damage. No damage, very impressive :-)) .
The model had been measured for fit, and everything was fine, in theory. In practice, it was 20mm too tall. following much roof tile tweaking, we decided to chop the excess off the top and present the little stump to the gentleman with the tape measure! These Navy types do know how to extract the mick out of each other {-) .

Once re-rigged and the paint made good, photos and handshakes, and HMS Victory was finally someone elses giant wooden dust trap :-))