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Title: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on May 09, 2007, 10:51:41 PM

I've never built a warship before, so when offered this opportunity I decided to have a go.

It comes in 140 weekly parts. Price for the issues are:

1        0.50,
2        2.99,
3 - 140 4.99

Total = 687.12  Hmmm but at least it's bit by bit!

Also judging by how long it took me to build Jan's Mountfleet Highlander Puffer, building this model in 35 is going to be a rush job!  ;D

Anyway, here we go with part 1.....



Hachette part works    http://www.hachettepartworks.co.uk

Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on May 09, 2007, 11:18:33 PM
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0001.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0009.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0003.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0005.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0030.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0035.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0036.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0040.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on May 09, 2007, 11:23:41 PM
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0042.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0044.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0050.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0046.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0054.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0059.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0063.jpg)


Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on May 09, 2007, 11:32:57 PM

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0067.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0071.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0073.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0083.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0085.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on May 09, 2007, 11:50:36 PM
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0088.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0090.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0093.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0099-1.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0106.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0117.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0111.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0114.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0102.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismarck-0104.jpg)

Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: tigertiger on May 10, 2007, 03:53:31 AM
Hi Martin

What is the editorial like in the Magazine section?

TT
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: DickyD on May 10, 2007, 08:23:01 AM
Going like the crappers Martin.
If you are not careful you will be finished by 2011. ;D

Richard ;) ;)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on May 10, 2007, 08:46:44 AM

Not much of an editorial, for example in issue 4:

4 Pages on pictorial build instructions ( which for a pictorial build could be much more clever! eg. it could have a symbol for "assemble but don't glue just yet!"  >:( )
2 Pages in glues ( excellent I thought )
6 Pages on political history and rise of Germany after the first world war.
2 Pages on Warships types - the Aircraft carrier.
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on May 10, 2007, 09:05:53 AM


Wood is first class quality.
(NB: I've never built a wooden model before! )

Laser cutting - spot on!
( But some measurement seemed to have gone slightly off at the design stage, ie. some parts fit better than others. )

So far, still impressed...!



Bit annoyed here, this frame shouldn't have been glued in place.
ONLY just spotted my mistake in time and the glue fully set!!!
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0191.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0192.jpg)


The model will have a final length of 49" inches so far 27"..... 125cm  (69cm)
( see blue line on desk )
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0190.jpg)


Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on June 08, 2007, 11:57:56 PM
Well parts 5, 6 & .... 8  have turned up - no part 7 ?!?!?!
I'm rapidly loosing faith in Hachett, pity, seems like a good product.  :-\

Anyway....


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem//Bismarck/DSCN5163.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem//Bismarck/DSCN5167.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem//Bismarck/DSCN5174.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem//Bismarck/PICT0418.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem//Bismarck/PICT0414.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem//Bismarck/PICT0425.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on June 08, 2007, 11:59:34 PM


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem//Bismarck/DSCN5177.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem//Bismarck/DSCN5179.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem//Bismarck/PICT0420.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem//Bismarck/PICT0428.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem//Bismarck/PICT0432.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem//Bismarck/PICT0464.jpg)



Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on June 09, 2007, 12:04:42 AM


No Part 7 ....yet!  >:(
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on June 09, 2007, 12:10:59 AM

Taking a bit of a chance here.... ( apart from not reading the instructions) ! I'm going to use the parts from part 8 ( to build the stern ) as I believe the missing issue 7 contains bow pieces.

Lets see.....  :-\

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem//Bismarck/PICT0438.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem//Bismarck/PICT0440.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem//Bismarck/PICT0445.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem//Bismarck/PICT0450.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem//Bismarck/PICT0451.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem//Bismarck/PICT0459.jpg)


Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on June 09, 2007, 02:06:20 AM
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0575.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0579.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0570.jpg)



Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on June 26, 2007, 06:50:12 PM

Well parts 7, 9, 10, 11 & 12 have arrived, so let get cracking!

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0739Small.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0751.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0752.jpg)



Had my first bit of bad wood this issue! Nothing to worry about though, just splodged glue in it and clamped it down. Sorted.

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0755.jpg)



Bow section starting to take shape...
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0765.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0771.jpg)



Another longeron (?!) fitted for the deck structure...

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0776.jpg)



Had my first distortion at this stage, here you can see the bow section lifting slightly...
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0780.jpg)



A few heavy batteries and 24 hours soon sorted it out!
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0783.jpg)



 
 




Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on June 27, 2007, 12:33:36 PM


No problems with Part 9


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0790.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0793.jpg)



The first timer might have problems and a few hints and tips wouldn't go amiss like using elastic bands as clamps!

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0795.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0798.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0803.jpg)



Part No. 47 looks like a rudder servo mount ?!?

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0808.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on June 27, 2007, 01:28:30 PM

Part 10



(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0813.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Pict0815a.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0817.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0843.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0855.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0861.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0865.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0875.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0870.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT0883.jpg)

Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on July 05, 2007, 12:02:12 AM


Part 11 ........ PLANKING!!!! Groooooooooan!  :-\

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark11-12_01.jpg)

Wood of very good quality....

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark11-12_03.jpg)

At this point the instruction say all the hull ribs have to be sanded so the planking sit on flat surfaces NOT edges.
This was fun... for about 5 minutes ... the next 2  hours were really tedious!

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark11-12_07.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark11-12_05.jpg)

Then the planking. Annoyingly the instructions give no guidance or techniques how this should be done.
As you can see I used a variety of methods, pins, clamps, bulldog clips and elastic bands.....

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark11-12_08.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark11-12_09.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark11-12_11.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark11-12_10.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on July 05, 2007, 12:28:19 AM

Part 12 - More Planking.......  :'(

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark11-12_16.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark11-12_18.jpg)


First a couple of doubles for the deck structure followed by another round of sanding, rounding off the corners.

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark11-12_19.jpg)


Then a couple of stern plates ( which will support the center prop plastic thing )

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark11-12_21.jpg)


Planking....

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark11-12_22.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark11-12_24.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark11-12_25.jpg)

By this stage, I had worked out my method of planking and gluing.
Tight elastic bands,
Planks slid in place.
Bent and held in position with pins.
Use thin SUPER' PHATIC ("High penetrating yellow aliphatic glue for close fitting pre-assembled joints. Drys fast and bonds wood, foam and plastic. Waterproof when set and produces tougher joints than superglue")
All the joints then "poked" and lifted a little from the inside to let the glue seep into the joint.


First planking results....

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark11-12_29.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark11-12_26.jpg)


Annoyingly, the planking looks better on in the inside than out!  >:(

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark11-12_31.jpg)

Never mind, I hear there are another 100 issues with more planking to be done!.... When do we get to the big guns?!  ;D

Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on July 18, 2007, 06:06:27 PM


Parts 13, 14, 15 & 16 ..... Bow Planking.

As all these magazines arrived in one batch so I'll do these in three sections,  Bow, Stern & Midships.
First the bow section.


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_01.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_03.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_02.jpg)


I knew this was going to be trouble as each strip (plank) has to curve, twist & bend to form the correct hull shape.
Despite the instructions, the placement of first plank was not shown as clearly as it should have been i.e. it bends up to meet the deck.

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_04.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_06.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_05.jpg)


Having checked on here ( with other people that know what they are doing! )
I then continued at 2 planks per side at a time.

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_07.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_08.jpg)


It soon started to look bad......

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_12.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_11.jpg)


By this stage I was now fitting and gluing a plank at a time as I was having problems getting the pins to hold the planks in place.

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_14.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_17.jpg)


I then ordered some planking clamps from http://www.miskinmodels.com/ (via ebay) - EXCELLENT!

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_24.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_28.jpg)



The tip of the bow is very curved so I decided that I would split the ends of the planks to help them follow the curvature.

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_34.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_39.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_48.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_65.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_73.jpg)



Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on July 18, 2007, 06:29:47 PM

Part 13, 14, 15 & 16 ..... Stern Planking.


The lower setion was a nice easy section as the planks followed the bulkheads quite readily.

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_78.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_80.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_86.jpg)


The planking above the stern plate was not so easy and I could only manage 1 plank per side per day and using lots of clamps.

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_158.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_171.jpg)



Once the planks were stuck down the ends were cut off ans sanded back.

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_153.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_163.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_199.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_202.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_204.jpg)


Something was not quite right because as you can see something is not quite square....
I going to need filler or very thick glue to fill this!  ::)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_208.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_207.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on July 18, 2007, 07:07:27 PM
Parts 13, 14, 15 & 16 ..... Midships Planking.

Finlay an easy planking section.....
First fit a "keel plank"

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_143.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_147.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_146.jpg)


With the "Keel plank" in place the job of "jig sawing" all the other planks began in earnest.

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_166.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_169.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_188.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/Bismark13_182.jpg)


The finished product....

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/DSCN5880.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/DSCN5883.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/DSCN5884.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/DSCN5890.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/DSCN5892.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/DSCN5893.jpg)




.... I feel a 'Sanding Orgy' coming on! Bradders! Turn your linisher on and clean out the concrete mixer!

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/DSCN5861.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/DSCN5847.jpg)





Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on August 17, 2007, 09:08:59 PM



Well after a short admin delay, we're gonna get back on track!

First a bit of sanding down..... can you sand this fast? ::)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1210.jpg)

BTW; This is how big the thing is......

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1244.jpg)




Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on August 17, 2007, 09:26:25 PM

Part 17 - Deck planking.

(NB. I've now switched to Evo-Sik Weatherproof wood adhesive on recommendation from forum members.
It's also a white PVA type glue but dries 'clear'.)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1519Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1521.jpg)



I must say the deck planking is (seems) very substantial 3 x 10 x 248mm lime wood strips.  O0

Cut planks in half and glue to bow section of the deck, only covering 19/c deck beam (half of 19c /19b joint deck beam).

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1546.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1547.jpg)




Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on August 17, 2007, 09:51:47 PM

Then a slight problem......  :o

The centre plank lays between deck bean 19/b and 4/b......
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1552.jpg)



My planks seem a little short  :o
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1553.jpg)


Deck beam 4 should be a double beam consisting of 4/b & 4/c ..... where the hell is 4/b ? ???
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1555.jpg)


Turns out I got confused in part 12 between my bow and stern, counted the wrong amount of beams and fitted 4/b adjacent to 7/c - Doh!
Never mind, make a new one. I was going to use the original sheet to trace and make a new one but I have 2 copies of part 1 and 4/b is on there!  O0
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1556.jpg)


Job done  ;)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1559.jpg)

Phew! that was embarrassing.... but I'm used to that!   :-\

Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on August 17, 2007, 10:04:09 PM

OK, panic over.  :)

Centre deck planks trimmed to length and glued down.
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1564.jpg)


More planks are added to the section towards the bow....
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1567.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1574.jpg)


The two side cheek and then added...
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1577.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1639Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1640.jpg)


Looks pretty strong  to me.  O0
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1576.jpg)


And it fits. :o
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1602.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1603.jpg)




Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on August 17, 2007, 10:28:36 PM

Part 18 

THE INTERNAL SEALING. :o
The instructions say:
To seal the hullwith caulk, you will need a roll of gauze dressing material, which can be obtained from a pharmacy, a medium-sized flat brush and white wood glue.


I haven't got any gauze to hand and Boots are closed. ;)
So I'm going to leave this for now and continue with the deck planking.
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1595.jpg)


The Bow section deck planking consist of two birch wood ply plates.
Nothing fiddly here, just mark up, glue and clamp.
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1581.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1605.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1592.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1607.jpg)


Getting cocky now!  ;)


Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on August 17, 2007, 10:51:00 PM

Part 19 - Stern deck planking

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1594.jpg)
( Again I will leaving the INTERNAL SEALING until the deck is complete. )


This is an intersting section, it reminded me of a model plane I built a few years ago.....
Again not much to do to the bits, mark off the deck beams and cut a couple of tabs.
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1613.jpg)


Clamp.....
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1616.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1619.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1622.jpg)







Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on August 17, 2007, 11:04:34 PM

The story so far....
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1644.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1648.jpg)



(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1651.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1649.jpg)



(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1652.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1654.jpg)



(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1657.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1655.jpg)



(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1658.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1659.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1660.jpg)


Time to go home.....   :)




Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on September 07, 2007, 10:27:45 PM

Part 18   Caulking... or not!

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1816.jpg)



I gave it a go, and after 1/2 hour I got the first two pieces in....

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1820.jpg)



I gave it another try..... and another and another.... nope to much work for very poor results.
The white glue and gauze/bandage stuck to everything except the planking!
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1822.jpg)



I tried pre gluing the bandage but that made matters worse :'( 

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1823.jpg)




And as for trying to get it into the bow section....FORGET IT!  >:(

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1817.jpg)




Well...... back to the drawing board!  :-X

Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on September 21, 2007, 10:54:16 PM

Part 18   Caulking - Round 2


Well it took a couple of weeks of psychological preparation, I decided to have another go at
sealing the hull internals using waterproof PVA and builders / plasters sticky SCRIM gauze.

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2541.jpg)


Using the SCRIM tape was MUCH easier and I even managed to get some in between the  bow bullheads.

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2544.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2547.jpg)


I couldn't get the brush in .... so I resorted to another method!  :D

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2548.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2551.jpg)
Bit mess.... but it worked! Couldn't get any PVA in the foremost section though!!  :-\
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on September 21, 2007, 10:59:05 PM

Part 18   Caulking - Round 2

Once I got going, it was soon very clear that if you are going to coat the
inside of your kit with PVA and Gauze (  ;D ;D ;D :D ) then this is the way to do it.

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2558.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2566.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2571.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2569.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on September 21, 2007, 11:05:28 PM

Part 18   Caulking - Round 2

We then got our sowesters out and a large bottle of Exterior (waterproof) PVA glue.

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2579.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2582.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2585.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2590.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2591.jpg)


Well see what it looks like on Monday!  O0

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2592.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on September 26, 2007, 08:21:41 PM

Well all you "Doubting Thomases" out there, here are the results of the 'Gauze and PVA' interior decorating looks like!
Personally I knew it would turn out OK....  ::)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2600.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2603.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2602.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2601.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2604.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2599.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on October 04, 2007, 08:04:03 PM

Part - 18 Hull internal sealing... last bit!

Just to finish off and on Peter's recommendations, I 'injected' some Deluxe glues "Super Phatic" thin PVA type glue.
I don't expect to help in any way but you never know....


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2611.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2606.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on October 04, 2007, 08:30:43 PM
Parts 19, 20, 21 - Deck

Right, back to the deck.

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT1610.jpg)

The parts were too long and needed trimming back - First actual manufacturing error!

( I quadruple checked it and I'm sure it's nor my mistake this time!  ::) )

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2621.jpg)


These were trimmed back to sit correctly, halfway across the double deck beam and glued down.


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2639.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on October 04, 2007, 08:34:42 PM
Parts 19, 20, 21 - Deck continued.

Next more deck planking.
NB. The planks are slightly thicker than the curved edge plates but a bit of elbow grease and a power sander will soon sort that out!

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2615.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2645.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2667.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on October 04, 2007, 08:39:43 PM
Parts 19, 20, 21 - Deck continued.

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2672.jpg)

Once dried, the next set of curved edge "cheeks"?? need to be fitted..... THEY DON'T FIT!  >:(
Again I thought I had screwed up but checking on more reputable websites, it is a manufacturing problem.

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2673.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2679.jpg)

I decided the ends were correct and would therefore patch / fix the middle joint.


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2683.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on October 04, 2007, 08:45:13 PM
Parts 19, 20, 21 - Deck continued.

The repair was easier than I thought, just cut a few bit of spare deck planking to fit the holes...... after 3 or 4 attempts, I got bits that fitted!  O0

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2686.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2687-1.jpg)

I reinforced the underside with scraps of hull planking.

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2694.jpg)


Don't look too bad does it?... mind you you could be up to 12,00 miles away from it!  {-)


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2720.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on October 04, 2007, 08:53:04 PM
Parts  21 Deck PVA Reinforcement?!?

Right back to the PVA and Gauze thing again...... sigh!
The instructions say PVA / gauze the underside of the deck, just 3 bays.
Naaaa! "In for a penny, in for a pound!"  I did the whole lot!  ???

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2697.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2710.jpg)

My little friend also lent a hand....

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2702.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2715.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2713.jpg)

Right! - We'll see how that looks in the morning.... I'm wasting away here... I'm off down the Chippy!  O0


Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on October 05, 2007, 07:59:45 PM
Part 21  Deck

Well after a good nights drying off, it looks OK! .... It's so strong, you can play cricket with it!  O0

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2734.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2738.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on October 05, 2007, 08:02:59 PM
Part 21..ish - More work on the deck.

The stern end of the deck need trimming and sanding flush with the deck beam.


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2739.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2745.jpg)

Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on October 05, 2007, 08:07:40 PM
Part 21..ish - More work on the deck.

A problem immediately showed up!
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2755.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2757.jpg)


Worrying at first but an hour of cautious sanding of deck beams and ribs, I got it the best part of level.

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2764.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2750.jpg)


Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on October 05, 2007, 08:13:35 PM
Part 21 - Deck sanding

I hate sanding.... even though it's very therapeutic.... especially with a Blank & Decker power sander!  ;D


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2747.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2767.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on October 08, 2007, 06:35:51 PM
Part 21 - Hull sanding

What a mess! It looks like it's snowed in here.... I'll bet the air-con breaks down tomorrow, filters blocked!  ::)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2780.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2775Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2776Custom.jpg)



Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on October 08, 2007, 06:42:25 PM
More hull sanding....

Right! I need a few of you experienced plankers to see up and rub your hands down the long curvaceous contors of my voluptuous hull and tell me what you think!..... I think I need a small drink..... :P

Remember, there is a second layer of planking to go on top of this on.


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2795.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2793.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2791.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2786.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2787.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2790.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2797.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on November 17, 2007, 12:57:25 AM

Part 22,23 - Upper hull planking.

This is where I left off last time.....

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2913.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2914.jpg)


Weill after a couple of weeks off.... here we go again.... I think this section is going to be quite hard....!  :-\

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2915.jpg)

From previous gained wisdom, I sanded the ribs to as best profile I could guess and to remove the black laser ash.

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2926.jpg)



Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on November 17, 2007, 01:00:59 AM

Part 22,23 - Upper hull planking.

The planks are quite narrow so should readily take on the tight curves.
I'm using all sorts of clamps for this section......


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2920.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2917.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2919.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on November 17, 2007, 01:15:30 AM
Part 22,23 - Upper hull planking. Part II


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2958.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2944.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2936.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2940.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on November 17, 2007, 01:18:39 AM

Part 22,23 - Upper hull planking. Part III

The planks did start to take on the right form, highlighting the slight "step" in the upper hull.


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2963.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2962.jpg)
( The white patch is superglue and accelerator)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2950.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2949.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on November 17, 2007, 01:34:10 AM

Part 22,23 - Upper hull planking. Part IV

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2966.jpg)

For speed and irrational reasons... I decided to use Superglue for this section!  :D

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2970.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2969.jpg)

The planks needed a little shortening....

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2973.jpg)

And the hull going to need another good sanding!

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2979.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2990.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT2994.jpg)



Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on November 17, 2007, 01:40:22 AM

Part 24 - Stand

... and after many weeks waiting.... an EASY part!

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3000.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3002.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3004.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3009.jpg)

It's not a very strong stand and not very practical for building either but it useful for .......keeping your build on the shelf!  ::)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on December 07, 2007, 08:10:49 PM
Part 25, 26  -  Superstructure

At last something a bit more interesting!   ;)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3014.jpg)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3017.jpg)

I had my first part failure with part 26.....

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3019.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3016.jpg)


This joint has doublers .... that don't overlap the whole joint  :-\


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3027.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3031.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3030.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3034.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3038.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on December 07, 2007, 09:07:08 PM
Part 27   -  Superstructure

Very good fit these parts!

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3040-1.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3045.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3047.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3052.jpg)


For some unknown reason the rear two parts wouldn't stick, there came adrift 3 times!?!


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3067.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on December 07, 2007, 09:11:55 PM
Part 28   -  Superstructure

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3054.jpg)

Another piece of the superstructure

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3056.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3061.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3064.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3063.jpg)

Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on December 07, 2007, 09:16:13 PM
Part 29   -  Superstructure

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3071Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3072Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3080Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3075Custom.jpg)




Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on December 07, 2007, 09:29:06 PM
Part 30   -  Superstructure

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3082Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3083Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3085Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3086Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3089Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3091Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3092Custom.jpg)


The parts so far. All very good fit and almost self jigging...... the small parts were very fiddly!  :(


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3096Custom.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on December 07, 2007, 09:36:21 PM
Part 31   -  Superstructure

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3101Custom.jpg)


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3104Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3105Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3107Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3110Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3112Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3115Custom.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on December 07, 2007, 10:06:59 PM
Part 32   -  Superstructure

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3117Custom.jpg)

These are very thin ply that make up a room at the front of the superstructure...
I had quite a bit of trouble as they need to be chamfered so the edges have flats to glue to.
In my opinion a terrible design when the rest of the superstructure is "foolproof" and "over
strong" whereas this part is flimsy, prone to movement whilst gluing,
and prone to misalignment.  >:(


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3118Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3124Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3120Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3135Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3132Custom.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on December 07, 2007, 10:14:17 PM
Part 33   -  Superstructure
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3137Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3139Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3146Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3143Custom.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on December 07, 2007, 10:19:10 PM
Part 34   -  Superstructure

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3147Custom.jpg)

Some more unorganisable superstructure parts...


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3155Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3153Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3154Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3152Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3157Custom.jpg)

Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on December 07, 2007, 10:22:14 PM
The story so far......


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3162Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3166Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3170Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3172Custom.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3159Custom.jpg)


Next, the secondary planking   {:-{ :(( >:-o <:(

Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on January 25, 2008, 09:32:01 PM


Right after a bit of a break, first thing to do is reorganize all the bits again.

This is what I currently have.....


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3269.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3267.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3273.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on January 25, 2008, 09:35:52 PM

Need to sort this lot out, Motor set.....

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3279.jpg)

....superstructure....

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3308.jpg)

.... bow and stern deck plates....

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3310.jpg)

... Resin bits ...


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3298.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3280.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on January 25, 2008, 09:43:55 PM
Chicken and the Egg!

With Part 23 AND 36 there is a stern resin piece 70 & 70/A.... I can't remember which came with which issue?!?!?

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3385.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3386.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3389.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3289.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3311.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3315.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3312.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3316.jpg)

Help!
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on January 25, 2008, 10:29:27 PM
Bow Planking.... again!

Anyway leaving the resin bits aside for a while, I need to get the first layer of planking completed.
As you can see, there are a few gaps that need filling.
Also, the deck and the hull sides seem to be a different shape... any help here would be MUCH appreciated.  :-\


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3330.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3323.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3324.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on January 25, 2008, 10:54:09 PM
Bow Planking.... again, again!

Filling the gap turned out to be a lot easier than I was making it!
( My mate Bradders says I alwas make mountains out of molehills...
... mole hills are much underestimated in my opinion!  ::) )

At first I tried shaping a plank to fit the hole but it far easier to Superglue a whole plank down
and sand it to shape... ... took about 3 minutes to fit sand to shape.... about 10 minutes to
un-peel myself from the hull and superglue...  >:(

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3333.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3337.jpg)


There is still the problem of the misshapen hull to contend, so as I envisaged quite a bit of sanding,
I superglued in a couple of doubles so that there would still be wood when I finished! ( Only took
me 6 minutes to free myself from the superglue this time..... :embarrassed: )

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3342.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3344.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on January 25, 2008, 11:12:30 PM

Bow.

Time to take the plunge, out with the saw....

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3348.jpg)

'Little Lindemann' passed out at this point...
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3349.jpg)



Test fitting the prow and prow deck.

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3350.jpg)

Oh dear!...

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3352.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3354.jpg)

But overall..... it does look like the front of a ship!  ::)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3369.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3380.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3377.jpg)

So so to bed for another seasion.

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3363.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT3364.jpg)

Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on July 08, 2008, 04:46:31 PM

Right it's been a while but lets have another go.
To be honest, facing the prospect of planking the whole hull again filled me with fear and trepidation ;
1. Because, as I stated at the outset, this is my first wood boat build
2. It's also my first "scratch build"
3. There no real way of checking if the 1st layer planking is correct.
4. I was waiting for feedback from some of you other guys out there to let me know of any pitfalls!  ;)

I spent a couple of day trawling the net and looked on several sites about the 2nd layer planking and
decided it was much easier than I was worrying about and so thought what the hell, have a go! Surprisingly
enough, I was able to put my hands straight on all the parts & magazines, my mother would be shocked!


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4176.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4187.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4188.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4215.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on July 08, 2008, 05:05:11 PM

Mark a nice centre line, here I'm using a plastic / mylar strip.
Then wait behind the garden gate , jump out and frighten the living daylights out of the
postie again and pick up all the red elastic bands he drops. Cover the hull in elastic bands.
Grab your first  stick  plank and off we go!


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4208.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4214.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4223.jpg)


Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on July 08, 2008, 05:07:45 PM

Remembering all the pain I put myself through last time, this time I damped down the 1st layer planks
with a damp cloth. A slightly damped surface seems to stop the PVA glue soaking in / drying out which
also extended the working time of the glue. I thought I have a go at using Evostik weatherproof wood
adhesive which is said to 'waterproof'. To further aid this processes I also passed each stick through the
lips to damp them down too - THIS IS NOT RECOMMENDED PROCEEDURE! Your lips start bleeding after
the fourth plank!!! After wondering why was changing colour and unable to hold my mouth closed, I
started passing the planks through the damp cloth.



(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4239.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4228.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4254.jpg)


Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on July 08, 2008, 05:15:41 PM


I put on the first few planks with no problems, staggering them halfway along the 1st layer.
And I remembered to start them 2 planks down too - Easy!   O0

This method of planking suited me in that it was quick, easy and messy! All I had to do was
damp everything down with water (with a little PVA glue in it.... it isn't waterproof!  ;) ),
splurge some glue over the area, spread it out with your finger, slide the planks in place and
position them, wipe off the excess glue. By the end of the first session, I had so much dried
glue on my fingers, I was able to do a bank job on the way home and leave no definable
fingerprints anywhere!   O0


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4288.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4266.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4234.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4275.jpg)




Even 'Little Lindemann' seemed pleased with our efforts.
That enough for the first session.......

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4283.jpg)


         

Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on July 08, 2008, 05:39:56 PM


The next day however started with the 'cold light of dawn'........

Again, having not fully understanding (reading) the instructions, the 2nd layer planking should not only
be  staggered to the the 1st layer but also staggered against itself ie. as in brickwork. Ah!  ::)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4332.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4291.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4277.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4304.jpg)




Well I had to carry on this way to complete the started rows and figured I would stagger the rest.  O0
Very few clamps were needed, so a lot less holes would need to be filled.

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4317.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4326.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4331.jpg)


"The job's not done till the paperwork is complete!"

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4296.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4239-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on July 14, 2008, 05:52:45 PM


Well parts 37 & 38 are the "water cooling inlets" which to me looked like they were
going to be trouble... and they were!  >:(  The pieces are made out of thin ply which is quite stiff,
neither of mine survived the 'product testing' of the Royal mail as both arrived broken.  :(

Well, never mind, "we shall over come". I thought I fix them to the hull and infill the broken bit after the
surviving bits were fixed down.... and that's still my current thinking!

I did try to repair the broken pieces but the ply was too thin to retain and strength.....


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4432.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4380.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4433.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4376.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4334.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4203.jpg).





Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on July 14, 2008, 06:06:00 PM

I then scored the ply pieces several times on the hull facing surface as per the instructions and then soaked the them in a water / PVA mix in an attempt to make them more pliable.... fat chance! The problem is, these pieces sit on the most curved part of the hull.


Anyway, lets have a go.....


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4460.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4454.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4464.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4486.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4475.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4477.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4481.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4470.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on July 14, 2008, 08:07:10 PM


Well the glue dried off over the weekend and I'm gonna say that the ' soaking of the ply' did make a
difference as all the ply seems to have conformed to the contours of the hull quite nicely! ..... 
.... 'Little Lindemann' thinks some of my handwork stinks!  :-\




(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4547.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4557.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4553.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4558.jpg)

Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on July 14, 2008, 08:15:47 PM


Right, straight onto the bilge keels.
Shaped to a nice profile and glued on!  O0



(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4436.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4563.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4565.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4568.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4569.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on July 14, 2008, 08:17:10 PM


A couple of delicate repairs.....


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4576.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4580.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on July 14, 2008, 08:20:08 PM

More stage 2 planking.......... sigh!



(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4570.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4572.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Bismarck/PICT4582.jpg)

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Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on July 16, 2008, 08:43:10 PM


Just a few extra planks on this evening.....
Starting to cut in around the hull inlets and bilge keels.


Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on January 21, 2009, 08:27:11 PM
Well feeling a lot better after a break and my dodgy is better too.
Now what stage did I leave this thing at?
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on January 21, 2009, 08:42:27 PM
Oh yes! Even more stage 2 planking.......... deep sigh!
 It so long since I done anything on the hull, 'Little Lindemann' had to get a broom out!



What are all these sticks for? ? ?  {:-{
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on January 23, 2009, 10:50:02 PM

Well I don't really know what part I'm up to, I guess somewhere between 35 - 41. really....
I'm surrounded my thin sticks of wood, I've thrown the binder against the wall (which is now another sort
of Bismarck kit I'm going to have to build) and still the seems no end in site to the 2nd layer planking
and then suddenly .....   :o
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on January 23, 2009, 11:11:49 PM

So currently she looks like.....
Title: Re: Martin Builds the Bismarck!
Post by: Martin [Admin] on January 23, 2009, 11:13:12 PM

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