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Title: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on June 20, 2007, 09:08:36 pm


Hello everyone.

I have started on the Model Slipway's  Dutch Buoy laying ship called the  "Vliestroom"

Here are the pictures of my way of  'doing things'.  It certainly is an interesting build, and I welcome your comments as we go along. My aim is to produce a nice, quality looking vessel that I can be proud of.  It is yet undecided whether she will go out in a stormy sea or not.   :D

The Vliestroom is a twin prop ship with steerable Kort nozzles and twin 500 motors. The plan is not to fit bow thrusters as further channels will be needed for  (hopefully) a working crane. I have two sets of buoys and it should be fun launching and recovering them.  ;D

I have started on the cabin construction, just using sticky tape, to ensure it all fits together, and have learnt a lot of tricks from the building of  'Aziz'  and talking to members at the meeting, which I hope will stand me in good stead for this one.

Here we go then with the first batch of photos starting with the real one.

Chees...Ken







Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on June 20, 2007, 09:10:29 pm


Here are some more construction views

Ken

Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on June 20, 2007, 09:12:04 pm


And some more

Ken

Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on June 20, 2007, 09:16:09 pm


some more.

Last ones for today.   It's onwards to the electronics now.  I'm hoping to build a self contained unit to be able to swop from boat to boat.  The parts are quite expensive so I might as well reuse them for different models.   ;D


Ken

Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: chingdevil on June 20, 2007, 09:24:53 pm
Looking Good Ken, I like the idea of a working crane to lay buoys very nice.

The other Brian
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Captain Povey on June 20, 2007, 09:54:42 pm
Hi Ken, It looks as if she is coming along very nicely and in a very tidy organised workshop too. I wish I could say the same about my shed. Cheers Graham. ;D
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on June 20, 2007, 10:10:28 pm

Thank you for your comments, Brian and Graham.  It's  'glue it together day' tomorrow.  The Missus is going out, so no complaints about   'the smell'    ;D

Unfortunately my jersey is the condition of my bench mat, so I'm in trouble there. Forgot to put my  'scruffies'  on. and now have epoxy intertwined in the weave. Never mind eh !!

Cheers...ken
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: justboatonic on June 20, 2007, 10:12:43 pm
Looking good! Im just about finishing off MSW Drumbeat then I can start on the civvie Envoy tug!  :P

BTW, dont leave the masking tape on too long as it leaves a sticky residue behind. If you leave it on for a lot longer than you should, it starts to delaminate and is a pig to get off any surface.
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: chingdevil on June 20, 2007, 10:16:11 pm
Ken
Get your dog to chew it ;D ;D, then it can not be your fault if the jersey is ruined.

The other Brian
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on June 20, 2007, 10:18:49 pm
Here is a picture of my new bench when I retired earlier this year.

It's grubbier now the boat production has started.    ;D ;D ;D

Hi Justboatonic. I've a long way to go to catch you up. Thanks for the inspiration.


Ken

Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on June 20, 2007, 10:21:09 pm


It's not a  Spot the difference' competition.  It's just that the replies are coming in faster than I can print pictures.

What a sooooper club eh !!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D


Ken
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: jenno on June 20, 2007, 10:58:59 pm
Very nice start Ken,
 regarding the crane it will look great when it's working. I did a lot of head scratching on my
Gry Maritha, but it was quite easy and draws a lot of interest at the lake.

                       all the best
                                                 Jenno
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Faraday's Cage on June 21, 2007, 06:38:07 am
Lookin good TK,

Your photos bring back memories of when I built my Vliestroom. Got the crane working by the way using a separate keyfob remote system which kept all radio channels free for other things.  The crane probably delayed my build by about 18 months as I tried a couple of different ideas that werent to my satisfaction including pneumatics. I'm now using miniature motors and gearboxes robbed from "sold for spares" camcorders which seems to work fine.

Keep up the good work.

Terry.
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on June 25, 2007, 10:59:35 pm

Well here are the latest developments

I have glued the cabin together, and it came out very nice.  (Thanks to Model Slipway's excellent measurements).  Just the small fillings required and all edges should be nice to look at.  (pictures 1, 2, 3 )

I have been working on the self contained power unit and and finally got a working version  (pictures 4, 5, 6)

The unit is boxed and contains two Esc's to drive the motors, a five volt regulated power supply from the 12 volts input to drive the servos and the RX, via an on/off switch. There are LED's for both circuits to show they are alive, and should go out if the boat ever sinks.   ;D

There are 2, 10 amp fuses for the motors and two 5 amp fuses for the servos and RX.  The Rx is mounted on a steel plate to isolate it from stray signals, and the crystal is easily accessible from the top.  The complete assembly is removable, and could be switched to another boat quite easy.  All that protrudes is the battery connections and the two motor drive leads which are fitted with sockets for easy connection. 

The boats servos are fed into the box at the RX points when required.  I connected it all up and it works like a dream, so far......... :)       Can't wait to fit the cabin out... ( with these vari-focals !!!)

On with the pictures  ......................  Ken





Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Marks Model Bits on June 26, 2007, 10:43:08 pm
That's a mighty fine looking sub sorry I mean ship ;D ;D ;D you're building there Ken and it's coming together really quick as well, won't be long before she will be getting wet!!! hopefully only on the outside this time ;D ;D ;D
Sorry Ken couldn't resist!!!!
Looking good though.

   Mark,  (hop along) ::) ::)
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: justboatonic on June 26, 2007, 11:05:19 pm
Im not too sure about clamping the rx down like you have.

While I admit there's a lot less vibration in a boat, I always have a bit of insulating foam underneath or around the rx to lessen the amount of vibration it gets. While the vibration may be less than in a plane or car, two motors can produce some and if the rx is strapped in, you could get problem with damage to the circuit board and \ or crystal.
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on June 26, 2007, 11:24:16 pm

hi mark.    Me and water don't mix   ;D     It will be a while before I show her what she's intended to do !!.  Hope your foot is getting better and hope to see you at the Cwmbran lake soon.  I have applied for membership and eagerly await the result.  ( They don't know my sinking abilities yet !!)

Hi Justboatonic.  The whole  box system sits in a white tray which is  secured to a rubber block on a piece of wood epoxied to the hull. Hopefully the vibrations are damped a bit. There are screws to secure the box and I suppose these might cause some vibration. I'll look into this .  Thank you you for your comments, it's nice to see your interest.

Allthough I'm  'retired', I was called out today on a job  (more boat money  :D )  so I've had a day off to mull over my next move on her construction.   Isn't it nice when one section is done and you move on to the next part of the project.  Building a model boat is like two hundred little jobs, and it seems never ending.  Love it   ;)


Cheers...Ken
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on July 03, 2007, 11:40:59 pm

 Well,  here we are,  down to the tiny bits and pieces.

Believe it or not, I found this section great fun and very relaxing. ( Till I knocked over the bottle of Plastic Weld ....Doesn't it evaporate quickly    ;D )

I am at present working on the crane.  Lot of intricate contruction here, which should be sturdy when finished, but a lot at angles at the moment.

Ken

Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Faraday's Cage on July 04, 2007, 10:59:35 am
Ken,
Are you planning on a working crane ?  It is possible with a bit of planning before construction.

Terry.
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on July 04, 2007, 07:52:21 pm

Hi Terry

Hopefully yes.   I fitted the whole assembly today  (not permenant yet) and the holes located superbly to allow the boom to come down in the right place.  It pivots in the hole just right. I have pre-strengthend the rear bearings of the boom and have a strong bearing surface with steel bolts for the loads due.

My next problem is to make a removable section on a curved deck to enable access to the cranes motors.  You are right with your comments about how to construct the mechanism. We are in the land of design now. I shall have to think about this one. ( I have the guide from Slipway)   I am taking pictures as I go, but would rather not show them yet in case the design changes.

I've made a little chair for the control box on the crane and it don't half look cute. Are there control sticks for the driver ?  I thought about sewing pins stuck in the console. Is this being a bit picky ?  ( man with too much time on his hands !!)

Catch you again


Cheers...Ken


Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Faraday's Cage on July 05, 2007, 09:13:40 am
Hi Ken,

As you can see from the first photo. Great modellers think alike.  ;D
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o27/telinengland/Vliest01Small.jpg).
Although it cant be seen on the photo, the figure (made from modelling putty) is wearing the mandatory hard hat.

The second photo shows a motor and gearbox robbed from a gash camcorder purchased of ebay for a few quid. This is used for the main hook winch and isnt much bigger than the winch supplied and is actually lighter than the original !
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o27/telinengland/Vliest02Small.jpg)

Just a mention of the crane boom cradle that fits onto the front of the main cabin - I realised that if the crane rests on this cradle then I would require 3 hands to remove superstructure from deck for battery access etc. 1 hand to lift crane boom and 2 for the supersture, unless I used the motorised boom lift each time. I thought the best solution was to make locating peg on the end of the boom slightly shorter so that I can lift superstructure without worring about the crane boom each time. Also I found that the boom was catching on the overhang on the roof of the superstructure so by cutting the peg slightly short it now clears ok.

Anything I can help you with then let me know.

Terry.
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on July 05, 2007, 10:12:14 pm

You are right about the overhang, Terry. I spotted this one and did not know what to do about it.  If the boom was contolled by motors, then it would not be free to move out of the way.   Humpff!!  (out with the file)

How much of the deck did you cut out for access to the drive motors ?   I figure if it's on the lower deck underneath the crane then it would have to be a curved piece. More water ingress problems etc.  (think twice...cut once )

I like you little man idea. Watch this space. 

Thanks for the help

Ken


Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Faraday's Cage on July 06, 2007, 09:48:25 am
Hi Ken,

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o27/telinengland/Vliest04Small.jpg)

As you can see I've cut quite a large piece out of the forward section of the main deck and have no problem with the curve as the piece cut out fits quite snugly.  This gives me access to the crane swing drive motor. (Photo 2)

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o27/telinengland/Vliest03Small.jpg)

The crane arm lift motor is buried inside the main crane housing. I'm using a gearbox turning a worn drive (Shoehorn required for this  ;)) as I found this gave me better control and looked more realistic than servo control. I tried pneumatics to start with but couldnt get the system to work effectively.

Terry.

 
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on July 06, 2007, 10:18:52 am


Great ...That's the answer.. Thank you for that. I shall start cutting today.

I notice you have the hook wire drive outside. I thought of putting it inside but also worried about the free running downwards. That is to say, the motor would pull it up, but what would drop the hook if there was no load on it.

Must get on. The dog is walked and the emails checked.  Busier now than when working.  ;D

Cheers...Ken
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Faraday's Cage on July 06, 2007, 10:46:04 am
Hi Ken.

I made a new hook from 2 pieces of sheet brass with a free running pulley in between and anchored the far end of the hook wire to the body of the crane. Due to increased weight of the new hook it now runs easily up and down.

Used this as a guide.
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o27/telinengland/228610001-medSmall.jpg)

Terry.
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Stavros on July 06, 2007, 05:57:43 pm
Hi kenny what motors are you running keep up he good work Stavros
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on July 07, 2007, 11:10:20 am

I have not got that far yet, Stavros. I shall be looking around for ideas, gears, drives,  etc.

I have cut the deck  ooh er !!   Lets a lot of light in. Now have room for motor trays and things. spent last night making tiny cabinets and just been to have a look.  My goodness, that plastic weld is good stuff. ( Two new bottles, so alright for a bit   ;) )  The joints have come out real strong. I'm impressed with contruction.

Unfortunately,     I have put the hydraulic runner guides on the boom, THE WRONG WAY ROUND.  I have to rip them off and re do them again.  Sheeesch, that's a disappointment. Can't imagine how that happened.  How many of you have built something only to come back next day and find a silly mistake. (looked OK at the time. I must be the Norman Wisdom of boat building and sailing)

Great fun though


Cheers...Ken







Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Faraday's Cage on July 07, 2007, 11:22:32 am
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How many of you have built something only to come back next day and find a silly mistake. (looked OK at the time. I must be the Norman Wisdom of boat building and sailing)

Ken,  I think you've answered your question without realising it.

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My goodness, that plastic weld is good stuff

I'll say no more.  ;)

Terry.
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: funtimefrankie on July 07, 2007, 01:53:23 pm
I think you'll find that pixies mess about with your boat at night.
They certainly moved the tow hook on my Canning .5 inch to the right one night, I cann't see how they did it but they did. :(
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Stavros on July 07, 2007, 05:19:09 pm
But you are shown motors in your piccies,I am confused Stavros
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on July 07, 2007, 09:17:54 pm


 Hi Stavros.  I have the main drives all fixed up, and running OK. 

I am now thinking of which motors to fit under the crane.  I need one to turn it around and one to lift the arm and one to let the hook out and back.  I have some ideas and will be looking around for the parts.

Today I rebuilt the crane the right way way around. Made quite a sturdy job of it. I have also fitted collars to the hydraulic rams to allow them to pivot on a brass rod right through the boom.  Had a bit of fun making the little safety fence at the top of the crane and even burnt my fingers with the hot metal and solder.  Brass don't half conduct the heat eh !!

Terry, I have pinched my wife's knitting basket and found the little levers for the crane control cab, just like you.  They do look impressive, with all the colours and raked at different angles.  I hope I can get the window in after painting the cab.

Just epoxied the front deck in and finished for the day. ( another 11 hours work)   Lets hope it stays in place and doesn't move in the night.  I always feel committed when the deck's in.


Cheers...Ken



Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Pointy on July 07, 2007, 10:32:51 pm
Beautiful work 8)
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on July 08, 2007, 11:26:05 am

Thank you Pointy.

Just took some more pics of the setting glue...

I have not started painting yet, and as such, now have a box full of little bits and shapes all glued and sanded.

Here is the line up of the furniture along with the Crane. I have just placed the boat bits together for the pic and will be 'filling & smoothing' the deck today.  Then it's cut out time for the Bulwarks.

Ken

Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Stavros on July 08, 2007, 09:38:28 pm
Yoo hoo Tug Kenny will you please STOP sniffing that glue !!!!!!!!!!.It is the main motors thta I am interested WHAT ARE THEY Stavros
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on July 09, 2007, 11:01:59 am

Hi Stavros.

The motors are the Graupner Speed 500E  rated at 12volts.  This boat has quite small Propellers, I thought.  I should imagine she's not going to Zip along. As I mentioned earlier, there won't be a bow thruster, so we shall just glide sedately across the pond looking gorgeous.  ;D

Just checked my 'filling the gaps around the deck' stage and it came out alright. Might start spraying later. I have been working out how to get that nice edge on the paint between the deck and sides.  Should I fit the all those side pieces up to the deck rail first. ( makes painting around them a nightmare !!)

Watch this space.......


Cheers...Ken

Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on July 15, 2007, 08:54:22 pm

I have been quiet for a while as I've been busy on the  'LITTLE'  parts.  I have places a pound coin against them to show their size.  The are part of the walkway system around the side of the cabin.  I'm afraid I've made a bit of a  'Pig's Ear'  of the construction and will sleep on it.  I might come up with a neater version.   ;)

I have made all the railings as separate units and feel very pleased with the result.  Very good therapeutic value, spending two days with the solder iron.

Here are some pictures of how small they are.   I am trying to get all the pieces built but not connected so as to paint them all individually.  When the weather warms up, it's out with spray gun and send my missus out shopping.   ;D

Ken



Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on July 15, 2007, 08:59:28 pm

Had a go at the  'Boat Skids'

This is the second version.  I found the first version a little weak and were breaking when the cabin was pulled off.  I have gone up to 2mm material with a bit of epoxy for strength.

Ken

Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on August 26, 2007, 07:54:08 pm

                        On with the Paint

I am up to the paint stage now.

Started practicing with my Air brush today.   (See comments in the paint section).   Must say it's harder than it looks, as I've made a right mess of some of the painting. I enclose a few pictures to show, complete with warts and all. I SHALL NOW STAND BACK AND THINK IT OUT AGAIN.

I must say that I'm disappointed with the results. All those months of work covered over with blotchy paint and lumps I didn't know existed. It shows up the flaws a hundred times.  I think it goes to prove that preparation is the paramount need here.

I have used Humbrol paint tinlets with 50% mix of thinners, so it flowed lovely. It was sprayed on with a flowing movement of the arm and didn't run at all. When it hit the plastic it captured dust and hairs and showed up the joins and bumps like there was no tommorrow. I am very upset with the result

The smell in the workshop was something to behold. It crept into the house and brought SWMBO running out complaining. It was good job I had on my £20 face mask with double filters because the fumes tend to build unseen.  :embarrassed:

Anyway, it's out with 800 grit paper tommorrow and see if I can salvage anything.


Ken




Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Marks Model Bits on August 26, 2007, 08:19:49 pm
That is going to take alot of rubbing down, such a shame after all the hard work you have put in to the build so far. I would say take all the paint off and start again from scratch. It has happened to me a few times, usually a run or debris in the final coat (when I don't have much paint left!!!!)

Stick with it Ken and it will go right in the end.

Mark.
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: slewis on August 26, 2007, 09:34:43 pm
Sorry to have to agree with them Ken  but you will have to rub it all down and start again I am afraid  :-\
I have had this on cars in the past where the paint has been applied to thickly too soon. If this is your first time with an airbrush get yourself some scrap material and practice forst . Build up to the finish with many light coats , that way you are giving any solvents time to evapourate between coats and not just holding (for want of a better word) them behind the next coat.
In this case less is most definatley more.  O0

Oh and on your other thread you mention paint bleeding ? Is this paint creeping under the masking tape you mean ? If so an easy fix for you (and others) paint the first colour (say red) then mask up to where you want the next colour to be (say white) . Now spray a light coat of red along the tape , I know its meant to be white . But the red will bleed under the tape onto the red (not noticable) and will also seal the edge of the tape so you can spray the white over the top with NO creep  O0

Hope that makes sense  O0

Shane

Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on August 27, 2007, 11:16:22 am


Thanks for the advice chaps. Much appreciated. I like the masking idea. Brilliant.

I spent a horrible night thinking about it and agree with what you say.  I shall continue with a fresh heart. Rubbing, here we come.

Can one use a dilutant liquid which won't harm the plastic ? as I have noticed tiny scratch marks appearing on the plasticard now.  The main trouble is that most of the rubbing is in awkward places where the fingers with sand paper and block can't go.  Talk about making a Rod for one's back.  Ugh !!!       I will report later.

Ken




Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on August 30, 2007, 07:35:16 pm

Well that's the sanding done.  A job not to be taken lightly.   ;)

My thanks go to Stavros , for his excellent advice on the phone, regarding the finer points of paint spraying and treatment.  Can't wait for his full write up, coming soon.   O0

Here we go with some of the intermediate pictures of my progress. The first one shows half way through and one good surface seeing the daylight. I just had to   'snap it'   for the record.   O0

The undercoat is on.  So flat and bump free, I'm over the moon.  The next application is the spray filler. I've never used this stuff, but lets hope it works out allright.

Here are the latest shots ............

Ken
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Marks Model Bits on August 30, 2007, 07:44:27 pm
That's looking much better now Ken keep up the good work.

Mark.
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on August 30, 2007, 07:56:27 pm


Thank's Mark.. Yes I'm feeling much better now.  Almost regret having to leave her for the night, but we have to patient and let her paint dry naturally. 

I want to get on with the build. So many little bits to fit. The furniture has got dust on it from hanging around.  :D   and the crane has to be sorted out with motors and cogs. Watch this space for more letters requesting help.  ::)

Cheers...Ken


   
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: DickyD on August 30, 2007, 08:30:53 pm
Looks tons better Ken. Really felt for you with the last lot of paint.

By the way when did you nick my garden table, when the dog was out for a walk I'll bet ? >:(
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on August 30, 2007, 08:47:26 pm

SWMBO says if it's good enough for Richard, then we must have one.        ;D

Regards the paint, if you were all here I'd buy a drink.  Can't tell you how I'm pleased.


Ken
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Marks Model Bits on August 30, 2007, 09:49:38 pm
We are on our way over get your wallet out then Ken. O0 O0 ;D

Mark.
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: DickyD on August 30, 2007, 10:17:44 pm
Cant drink as I'm on medication Ken, I'll just have me table back.  :police:
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 05, 2007, 07:28:03 pm

We have moved on-a-pace since our enforced workshop stint. Been working 10 hour days and getting on a treat.

I have used 'artistic licence' on some of the colour schemes and the designs of some of the little pieces. Here is the modified wood floor of the cabin roof.

The holes in the brass mast are for the wiring to the lights.





Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 05, 2007, 07:32:00 pm

That little life raft containers were fun to build.   I really enjoyed that     (thanks FLJ, great design)  Gave me a chance to sit down and work.




Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 05, 2007, 07:33:35 pm

A few more of the little bits.

Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 05, 2007, 07:35:41 pm

This years colour  (according to SWMBO who like it !!)

Just to show I can paint a flat surface now I've taken advice from Stavros. Cheers mate.

Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 05, 2007, 07:43:29 pm

Had a bit of heart ache today as I had sprayed the crane and hung it up in a vertical line. It was attached to a nail in the rafters and I forgot it was there and bumped into it.

It nose dived to the concrete floor.  :embarrassed:

I shall have to rebuild it with new plastic for the end  (the bit with the wheels on it ,,,ugh !!)

Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Stavros on September 05, 2007, 09:27:06 pm
Glad to be of some help Tug Kenny any time just you ring your Uncle Stav

Stavros
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 05, 2007, 09:31:32 pm

Cheers Stavros

The shading on the picture is reflections in the wet paint.   (I hope)

Ken


Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 06, 2007, 07:48:03 pm

Today the railings were sized up and little holes drilled.

Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 21, 2007, 09:03:54 pm

Further update .....

The top section is nearly complete. Just the mast to wire up.

Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: 6705russell on October 21, 2007, 09:12:30 pm
Hi there, what figures did you use for the crew?

Russ
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 21, 2007, 09:24:10 pm

              Disaster

I've been very busy painting everything deck-wise and dropped her on the Kort's, which snapped off.   See picture.

Of course, this idiot had sealed the deck down, with just an access hole for adjusting the servo tensions. Had to cut out a section big enough to work with. (mind you, it was recommended in the plans. Sorry FLJ)

I drilled out the broken bits and have fitted new spindles. I hope superglue works under the strain of steering at speed !!

I am extremely unsatisfied with the paint job around the bulwarks and the two different colours. It looks a real amateur job.  Just couldn't get a straight line netween the two, so I lost my cool and decided to rub down the complete hull and decking. I tore off the bulwarks and have been sanding for two days.

Went though four sheets of sandpaper to get back to a smooth surface. Tommorrow its undercoat time again. Should be getting good at this soon. !!

I was so tense that SWMBO wouldn't let me drive to Blackpool. I'm sorry I missed this one, as I was really looking forward to it.  I shall definitely be at the next outing in November.

Hi Russ.  I have sourced a supply from China. 100 little people at 1/50 scale all painted from £6.00. If I get the boat looking tidy again, I might invest in them.

And to think I've got the electrification of the crane to look forward too.  Scheeeeesh. This is a career, not a hobby. ;D

Here are the latest pictures.

Ken

Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 28, 2007, 08:16:01 pm

Well, here we go again.    O0

I have decided to keep the deck and gunwales a shade of grey. I have re cut a new set of bulwarks and sprayed them both sides separately from the boat.

Here it is half way through. A shot to show the inside of the cabin, with the bulwarks to be fitted. I hope the superglue sticks a painted surface to a painted surface.

Ken
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 28, 2007, 08:23:54 pm


The crane took about a month's labour but here it is. I have yet to motorise it.

Finally finished the top deck with all the little pieces. Tommorrow I start on the wiring. (my favourite section).  Just noticed I've forgotton the glass windows.  A million jobs on this one eh !!

I have yet to do the top half of the hull in it's black coat. I'm waiting for the sun to come out. SWMBO doesn't like the fumes.  ;)

Ken

Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 28, 2007, 08:34:25 pm

Whoops... sorry but I've posted images  55  &  56  before. My mistake.  Should have been these two latest ones.   :embarrassed:

Ken

Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Stavros on October 28, 2007, 09:36:41 pm
Does'nt he look proffesional with his mask on,and the boat ain't half bad as well ;)


Stavros
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 28, 2007, 10:06:28 pm

muffle ... muffle ... muffle....   Thanks Stavros.

Putting what you taught me into practice

Ken


Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Stavros on October 28, 2007, 10:17:19 pm
Well I am so glad some one listens to me

Stavros
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 29, 2007, 05:00:06 pm

The Sun came out today, so it was out with the paint gear again.  Sprayed the black surface lightly and retired for glazing the cabin.

When I went outside to check the 'paint job'  there was a fly stuck to the side of the boat !!!.  I left him stewing for a couple of hours and then had to use the 800 grit to get a section back to undercoat.  >:(

When it was quite smooth, I sprayed again and brought the boat inside the shed. I've retired for the day as the fumes were quite pungent.

Photo's tommorrow.  O0

Ken

Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 02, 2007, 08:01:53 pm

Here is my beloved boat in her final livery.

The cabin is double glazed !!   and re touched up with better colours. Even the little men like it.   O0

Just the fitting of the props, Kort's and motors, and plug in the control module, and it's off down to the lake.  I'll try not to sink this one.  8)

If all goes well then I'm going to attempt the motorisation of the crane.


Cheers...Ken

Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Marks Model Bits on November 02, 2007, 08:10:14 pm
That paint looks alot better Ken, just remember when you go over the lake the water goes on the OUTSIDE!!!!! {-) {-) O0

Mark.
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Faraday's Cage on November 02, 2007, 08:53:32 pm
Lookin good Ken. O0
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 02, 2007, 09:05:37 pm

Thanks for your comments, guys.   I've just noticed the brown chart table looks like a big sofa. Perhaps I should break up the top view with some items ?   A ships cat would look good, sitting on some charts !!

Ken

Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Stavros on November 02, 2007, 09:19:44 pm
Nice job Ken looking excellent

Stavros
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 03, 2007, 10:39:25 am

Thank you Stavros. praise indeed.

I've still to install the anchors and sticky labels, but I'm very pleased with this boat.

I'll have to see what Model Slipway have got at the Warwick show.   O0

Ken

Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: pops on November 03, 2007, 04:19:12 pm
Your work is inspirational Ken. thanks for sharing it with us.
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: bigford on November 04, 2007, 03:22:28 pm
kenny
 
   that boat is looking super i,m so glad the repaint worked out so well
cant wait to see the rotterdam O0
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 04, 2007, 07:39:20 pm

Thank you Bigford. I'm getting worried about Rotterdam. All that wood frightens me. I shall be back here often, methinks.  O0

Spent the day with a fine paint brush covering up the scraggy edges and the paint that had leeched through the deck drain slots.

I had to use the aerosol to keep to the same colour.  I sprayed a bit in the lid and then brushed it carefull over the imperfections.  Funny effect then occurred. The paint was melting the original spray ??  if I used two many brush strokes it was bring up the undercoat, so I eased up and just did one swipe with the paint. Worked out OK in the end.

I then fitted the Kort's and Props. I had a bit of binding with the props on full turn, so had to fettle away the inside edges of the Kort. This was followed by the motors and control box.  She was tested on various throttle speeds and was a joy to behold. Pictures to follow.

She is now ready for her first DIP. I won't do it tommorrow as it's firework time !!  and I don't want a rocket up the stern.   8)

Ken


Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: bigford on November 04, 2007, 09:17:09 pm
I won't do it tommorrow as it's firework time !!  and I don't want a rocket up the stern.   8)

whats that all about ???



Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 04, 2007, 09:25:59 pm

 November the 5th.

I was referring to the local youths having a goodly supply of fireworks and looking for somewhere to throw them.

The sight of a model boat on the lake would be tempting things a bit perhaps.  ;)

Ken


Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Stavros on November 04, 2007, 10:22:43 pm
To Quote Ken


I had to use the aerosol to keep to the same colour.  I sprayed a bit in the lid and then brushed it carefull over the imperfections.  Funny effect then occurred. The paint was melting the original spray ??  if I used two many brush strokes it was bring up the undercoat, so I eased up and just did one swipe with the paint. Worked out OK in the end.

This is caused by the thinners in the Aerosol,not only this but the thickness of the paint film applied by aerosol's is very thin hence being attacked by painting on by brush


Stavros
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 07, 2007, 08:35:14 pm


Here are the pictures of my control box.

I have made the control box complete with three Speed controllers, A 5 volt stabilised supply for the servos, a six channel Futaba Receiver. Four fuses and an on/off switch with LED.  All that shows are the three motor leads coming out along with the Ariel and the supply wires to the battery. For connection to the Rx for other servos there is cut slot on the side.

This should be able to be fitted to each boat I build without buying further equipment.  ::)

Today I semi completed the motorisation of the crane. I have it rotating 180 degrees, all be it rather jerky due to the plastic tube grinding in the plastic base. More thought required here, methinks.  The motors from the LYDL Crane are a little weak so I've fitted a 12 volt slimline type of motor ( make not known)  with a bevel gear to a large cog wheel.

I'm now working on the crane lifting mechanism. My goodness, that requires a lot of force !!.   Might go to gears and levers somehow.  The lifting hook is a complete mechanism, courtesy of Lydl's and it's a lovely little unit. I should be able to run the rope up through the tube and out on top the arm of the crane. It's not fitted yet as I have to clear the lifting part when in use.

I have a movie of it so far. As it's 90 megs of film, I shall have to cut it down a bit before I put it on Photbucket.  ;)

Ken



Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: John W E on November 07, 2007, 09:00:06 pm
Hi Kenny

First of all, I like the look of that control box - and any chance of any pics so we can see what is in it?

Also, model is looking good.  Here's an idea for the hoisting winch for your crane.  Get an old servo and remove the potentiometer, so that gives you continuous movement in either direction/forward or reverse.  Leave the gearing in as well in the servo - because little servos are quite torky.  Where the servo arm fits on top of the servo, you can fit a sail winch drum or make your own winch drum to locate on this place.  What you have to remember is, you will be restricted to very light weight that the crane will lift, not because of the strength and the structure of the crane, but whilst the model is out on the water, you will find lifting anything but rather light weights will have drastic effects on the stability of the vessel.   Not unless you are thinking of building in a counterbalance system where you are lifting from port or starboard side of the ship, you have a counterbalance which counterbalances the crane.

Food for thought my friend.

But, its looking really nice your model is.

aye
john e
bluebird
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 07, 2007, 09:26:35 pm

Thank you John.

NO ....  I shall not be lifting anything heavy. I don't want to go in the briny AGAIN ... ;D

This is purely a lifting the arm to show off,  project !!!!

I like your ideas very much and will give it much thought.  One of the first mockups resulted in it not fitting the space allowed. It has to be a removeable chassis under the crane and this is poked through the deck aperture, which I cut a bit small.  :(    (1st time scratch builder me)

I will take some more pictures of the control module for you tommorrow. I forgot to mention that I have the Speed controllers individually switched in case I only have a single prop boat with no bow thruster, on the next model.

Ken



Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 07, 2007, 09:32:54 pm

Here is a close up of the controller.

It shows the bank of fuses above the three Speed controls. To the right is the smoothed 5 volt fused supply. In the lid is the three SCR switches. To the front is the Rx with crystal uppermost for easy changing.


Ken
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 07, 2007, 09:35:47 pm

This picture was left behind ............. :embarrassed:

 
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Faraday's Cage on November 07, 2007, 09:49:50 pm
Ken,
I'm a bit concerned with the proximity of your rx to all that "dirty" wiring.

See how your sea trials go but should you suffer any interference problems then you may have to consider relocating the rx.

Terry.
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: John W E on November 07, 2007, 10:09:21 pm
hi there Kenny,

What do you think of this idea, food for thought, instead of butchering a servo, using a servo to operate a wedge which in turn pushes on a push rod to lift the jib of the crane.   The jib of the crane is returned to its resting place when the wedge is moved back and also a spring which pushes on a stop.  At the bottom of the push rod, you could fix a small wheel which would ride on the wedge and also the wedge would have to be about double the width of the wheel in thickness to allow for the crane slewing and the wheel not moving off the wedge.   Its an idea to play around with, just gives you another headache. 

Hope this is of some help.

aye
john
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 12, 2007, 08:09:19 pm

Been working steadily on the crane and have come up with the latest mock up.  ;D

I have a motor with a bevel gear to turn the crane. The lifting of the arm is done by a servo linked to a bar with 2 to 1 ratio length. Should keep down the forces needed on the Servo. This will be coupled up through the length of crane to raise the arm. I'm hoping it wont push the crane off its mounting,   ::)

To this end I have arranged a securing system which can ease the removal of the complete crane without serious disassembly.

The hook is fed from a Lydl crane motor assembly though gears and a winch and is pullied up through and will go along the arm.

Unfortunately it's to big to fit into the boat, so I will have to cut a bit more out of the deck.  (it being painted and all !!)

Also, I have doubts about it's weight in the Bow.  Must get on, as boat number three beckons.   O0

I have found the adjustment on the camera for 'Close ups',  so enclose a sample of getting right in there.   8)

Ken



Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: maso on November 13, 2007, 09:20:28 am
Good info on the crane. I'm starting to sort mine out, still a while off yet, but I need to think about it now while i'm building it. Hate to go back later and chop things up.
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 18, 2007, 07:48:22 pm

Did a bit of transfer sticking today. Now it's starting to look the Biz, as they say.

Decided to take the plunge and cut a bigger hole in the deck.  Found out the crane motor assembly was too high and wouldn't fit under.

Now working on crane mechanism number three...  ::)

I cut a new cover, which will need shaping into the curve of the deck and it will need painting. Just when I've put the gear away...  ;D

Cheers....Ken


 
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 21, 2007, 09:45:15 pm

                It's Bouy Time

Decided to rest my bamboozled brain and start on the Bouys.

Believe it or not, this little collection has taken two days so far.  Fiddly or what !!!

Ken

Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 03, 2007, 07:49:47 pm

Here we are back again in the flow ....  Just had a little bout of  'Man Flu'

Sprayed up the Buoys. Three days waiting between coats.

Have redesigned the Crane mechanism and fitting it all together for the umpteenth time.

The main problem seems to be removing the crane (if need be) at a future date for repairs. The motor is on a removeable carriage as the crane withdraws from above. This involved designing a locking arrangement for the drive shaft tube.  Pictures to follow.

Here are the latest deck scenes.  (must build the safety rail against the cabin !!)

Ken

Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Captain Povey on December 03, 2007, 08:16:48 pm
Hi Ken, Good to see you Warwick and sorry to hear about the man flu. I had a touch myself last week on top of the shingles so have felt better. She is really coming on well now and has a super look about her, the finish looks excellent. Cheers Graham O0
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 03, 2007, 08:34:26 pm

Hi Graham

Glad you're feeling better. I'm also glad to be better.  (probably standing in the shed with the door up !!)

Yes, I'm going at top speed now. I've stared at this one long enough now.

Thanks for your comments. It's like a production line here. Bit of gluing, bit of cutting plastic, bit of wiring, bit of soldering. My head's in a whirl.   :D

Isn't it funny. You sit at the bench having a tea break while starring at the model and you notice something else to do !!!    and when did that little part dissappear  !

Ken

Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: cos918 on December 04, 2007, 09:08:01 pm
hi kenny found these photos on the net. i know the crane is fixed in the boom elevation but thought it might be of use to you. john
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 04, 2007, 10:14:39 pm

Thank's for the Pics, cos918. You wouldn't believe how close they are.

Been working all day on the 'frame'.  I'll post up some pictures soon.  I've been fixing in the extras, (little people and buoys etc.)  and it's nearly finished.

Water trials start soon.  ooh er

Ken.


Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Stavros on December 04, 2007, 10:21:28 pm
Right Ken two words spring to mind with your track record CHEST WADERS

STAVROS
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 04, 2007, 10:31:02 pm

Hi Stavros

SWMBO might get me some for Xmas, if I'm a good boy....... ;D 

Funny, but she also says "why put it anywhere near water, as it's a good looking boat and all that work", " lovely paint job", etc.  But you know me, glutton for punishment, and all that. I have a film to finish.  :embarrassed:

Let me be the first to wish you and all the members a   Merry Christmas

Cheers...Ken







Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 14, 2008, 08:23:47 pm

Well she's nearly finished. Just the crane motors to wire up and a movie to make  ;)

Took Vliestroom to the clubs annual meeting and was presented with the Chairmans plaque for 2007. What a surprise. I was very pleased indeed.

This is my Fleet, so far.

Ken

 
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: banjo on February 14, 2008, 09:00:53 pm
Well done you!

Recognition by ones fellow members is praise indeed.

 O0
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: barryfoote on February 15, 2008, 08:35:57 am
Brilliant Ken. I don't know how you keep more than one model on the go at once though!!

Barry
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Faraday's Cage on February 15, 2008, 09:58:05 am
Well done Ken on almost completing the project (just the crane left). Its not an easy build as you've found out but well worth all the effect especially with the recognition from your club.  Hopefully we'll meet up at an event this year and compare notes.

Terry.
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Martin [Admin] on February 15, 2008, 11:26:06 am
What are the other boats in your fleet Ken?
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Ghost in the shell on February 15, 2008, 01:25:49 pm
Ken, If I can get My ship to pick up and deploy a submarine, im sure you can get the crane to work, which will be a real neat feature.
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 15, 2008, 07:37:56 pm

Thank you all for your comments. Yes, it's full time at the moment. I didn't want to do two on the go, but the forthcoming Mayhem Bash has spurred me on.

I'm currently working on Red Pelican and Boston Typhoon and spend about 6 hours a day on them.  Vliestroom will have her movie made when the sun comes out   (will it ever)

Cheers...Ken

Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 17, 2008, 03:45:49 pm

Lovely sunny day today. Off to the club meeting at the lake.

                               ICE

A small patch of wet had been cleared, but no one had an Icebreaker type of boat, so we had to stay in small cleared bit. Amazing how much weight you need for ice driving. I tried the boundaries of it but felt damage might ensue, so stayed in the wet bit.

I've taken these stills pictures and made a movie of my attempts. All I have to do is make another film for U-Tube. Watch this space.

Ken

Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: barryfoote on February 17, 2008, 06:21:20 pm
Ken,

Good to see the results of your endeavours- Excellent, but not too sure about the ICE bit...........Now I know why I moved to Spain :D

Barry
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Ghost in the shell on February 17, 2008, 10:04:50 pm
I have used the Yamato to move Ice, and its NOT easy
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 19, 2008, 07:12:35 pm

Well, here we go.

The video of Vliestroom part 2, is up and running. This one shows a brief outline of the workshop build first and goes on to show movies of the crane and sailing capabilities.

As mentioned earlier, the ICE breaking powers are limited, to say the least. I didn't want her belly flopping up on to the stuff. It might have been a week before she floated again.   ;D

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=CkI9tz10u6I

Cheers...Ken

Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: DickyD on February 19, 2008, 07:25:52 pm
She looks good Ken and a very professional video.

Oh, just one thing, your title "Of to the lake" the "of" should have two fs.

Sorry :embarrassed:
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 19, 2008, 07:28:44 pm

Thank you Richard. I do like everything right, so I'll be over there later to modify it. Can't seem to get the end of our letters page....... ::) 

It's all so interesting. No wonder my latest builds are taking their time.

Cheers...Ken

Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 19, 2008, 07:40:13 pm

I've had a look and found it's embedded in the film, so it cannot be altered without withdrawing it and making another film , and waiting one hour to download it again. Phew....I'll leave it on with an apology.  (another learning curve eh !!)  (thank goodness Martin has spell chicker on here)

Cheers...Ken

 
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: barryfoote on February 19, 2008, 09:57:36 pm
(thank goodness Martin has spell chicker on here)


Very droll   ::) ::)
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: grzegorz75 on May 09, 2008, 07:40:31 pm
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Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 09, 2008, 07:52:53 pm

Hello grzegorz75.

Welcome to Mayhem. It is a pleasure to have you on board. I like your model . The details are superb. Well done.

Ken
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: supersonic on May 09, 2008, 08:00:31 pm
Hi Grz? Welcome to the forum, excellent photo's of your build !

Dave.
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Stavros on May 09, 2008, 10:19:06 pm
brilliant work there and especially for you lot who cant read polish look at this


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Stavros
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: grzegorz75 on May 30, 2008, 07:26:27 pm
hej  :)

Why have you used plank on the roof? Have you seen that on the original ship? Any photos to back up this idea?
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 31, 2008, 08:53:56 am

Hi grzegorz75

It was just an idea I had to improve the look. I think it helps smarten her up for exhibitions. Not everyone knows how she was built.  It did help me win the Chairman's Shield at my local club, however, so I'm quite pleased with that.

Keep up your excellent work. I really admire your detail and watching with interest.

Cheers...Ken
 
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: GaryM on May 31, 2008, 07:14:30 pm
Thoughrally enjoyed reading your build Ken, beautiful boat. O0

regards
Gary :)
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on June 01, 2008, 10:15:59 am

Thanks Gary.

I have got some decent motors and gears now, so I might proceed with the crane mobility design. I'd love to get this working, and it would finish the model off nicely.

Ken
Title: Re: VLIESTROOM .............. My Build
Post by: GaryM on June 01, 2008, 11:08:14 pm
Photo's and videos of the crane working would be nice ;)

regards
Gary :)