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Title: snapper plans
Post by: madboats on January 24, 2016, 09:59:03 pm

Hi all


      Can anyone help me in my search for a plan of a boat called snapper by i think Vic Smeed which was in the the plans handbook               back in the day.Just that i love building and sailing retro models such as catchalot blue streak marksman swordsman anyone else have              fetish? {-) Thanking all in advance.

Title: Re: snapper plans
Post by: canabus on January 25, 2016, 11:34:10 am

Yes it is a Vic Smeed plan.
I found this list today, you maybe interested in.
I do have the PDF copy of the original plans of the Sea Hornet, Swordsman and the Sea Rover.



Water Baby A   Sea Mew   Vosper PL4   Ceriva (tug)
Mis'Deeds   MV Arran   Lorette   Vosper Royal Barge
Mistral   RMS Empress of Britain   Lorelei   PS Royal Falcon
Liverpool Type Lifeboat   HMS Cossack   RNLB Plymouth   Range Safety Launch
Water Bug   Bustler (tug)   Pathfinder   SS Painted Lady
Hobo   Bardic Ferry   STS Dilyisa   Thornycraft MTB
Magga Dan   Vosper RTTL   Kingfisher   Lorosa
Lorraine   Speranza   Silver Mist   Lorena
Scudabout   Veleta   Slipper   Skater
Skipper   Scudder   Skimmer   Skidder
Sprat (sub)   Moonmist   Skimmerrana   Fairy Huntsman
Vivacity   Pilot II   Querida   Spurtster
E-Boat   Alter Ego   Dimarcha   Antares
Hammerhead   Remora   Suzie Q   Rorqual
Cachalot   Snapper   Mako   Moccasin
St Louis Belle   Fairmile Type "C" ML      MV Frank Rayner

Title: Re: snapper plans
Post by: tony52 on January 25, 2016, 12:05:33 pm

Snapper was a free plan in the May 1968 Model Boats magazine. It may be worth trying to locate a copy of the magazine with the plan. The June 1968 issue featured the second part of the written build item.

Title: Re: snapper plans
Post by: inertia on January 25, 2016, 12:21:44 pm

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-F1-V-15-CLASS-MODEL-RACING-BOAT-PLAN-SNAPPER-INCL-BUILDING-NOTES-/262232785525?hash=item3d0e4ac275:g:o2gAAOSwZd1VaPr3 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-F1-V-15-CLASS-MODEL-RACING-BOAT-PLAN-SNAPPER-INCL-BUILDING-NOTES-/262232785525?hash=item3d0e4ac275:g:o2gAAOSwZd1VaPr3)

Isn't Google a wonderful thing? (I wish I paid 2.6% Income Tax, too...)
DM

Title: Re: snapper plans
Post by: tigertiger on January 25, 2016, 02:31:33 pm

They don't have Snapper plans, but there are some interesting vintage models among the X-List plans at Myhobbystore. http://www.myhobbystore.co.uk/browser/5559/sports-boat (http://www.myhobbystore.co.uk/browser/5559/sports-boat)
The Screwdriver looks interesting, and at 48" L and 15" beam.

Title: Re: snapper plans
Post by: canabus on January 26, 2016, 04:52:03 am

I found ewe one!!!!

Title: Re: snapper plans
Post by: madboats on January 26, 2016, 10:30:21 pm

Thanks to you all for a quick and helpful response
Yes tigertiger the screwdriver caught my eye
Ordered snapper on ebay
Happy building & boating

Title: Re: snapper plans
Post by: canabus on January 27, 2016, 06:51:42 am

Hi Madboats
I have an Aerokits Sea Hornet built from the original plans.
It is 25 and 1/4 inches.
So this is what I have in it, 3S 2650mah Lipo battery, 45Amp car ESC(with reverse), 2 blade 32mm prop with a B28-57-15L 1900kv 750kw motor.
All from Hobbyking.
Speed about 40mph.
Balance point 10 inches from the stern.

Hope this helps with you setup.

Title: Re: snapper plans
Post by: madboats on January 27, 2016, 10:47:01 pm

Hi canabus
Thanks for the info on my snapper post first kit i built was a aerokits sea nymph back in the 60
The brushless motor info you have listed will be a great help,i run brushless in a catchalot and a marksman but wonder if i have got the size right ok on ic engines but all the numbers with brushless puzzle me

Happy building & boating  :-)

Title: Re: snapper plans
Post by: canabus on January 28, 2016, 04:24:26 am

Brushless motors, generally the first two numbers are the can size e.g. B28-57-15L 28mm, the second two numbers are the can length 57mm and the KV is the revs per volt (1900kv = 21090rpm on 3S(11.1 volts) and 28120prm on 4S(14.8 volts).
My 3648-1450kv(1600 watts) on 4S=21460rpm over powers the old OS40 FSR(20,000rpm 1.6hp).
One hp= about 750watts.
This new brushless and Lipo battery stuff is so powerful it turned by ocean racer deep vee(geared 540 brush motor on Nicads(10 minutes run with the speed of a tug boat) into an insanely fast ocean racer in a bit of wave running on the prop in the water only.
Total hand full and a bit trying with over 1/2 hour running(5800mah battery).
Looking at the Snapper you may have to put the battery under the driver to get the balance point right.
I have had the original plans for the Sea Hornet, Swordsman and Sea Rover rescanned into PDF format, so I can get them reprinted to larger sizes e.g. Sea Rover 20% bigger to 35 and 1/4 inches and the Sea Hornet 25% bigger to 31 and 1/4 inches.
The Swordsman is 33 and 1/4 inches standard.
Also have all the frame drawings.
Checkout my boats atmodelboats.com forum site.
Any more questions we are all like helping out fellow modellers.

Title: Re: snapper plans
Post by: Martin (Admin) on January 28, 2016, 05:55:52 am

Quote from: canabus on January 28, 2016, 04:24:26 am

Checkout my boats atmodelboats.com forum site.

 Can't find your site?

Title: Re: snapper plans
Post by: canabus on January 28, 2016, 06:42:53 am

Sorry mate!!
modelboats.co.uk

Title: Re: snapper plans
Post by: spearfish99 on February 24, 2016, 10:05:46 am

The Screwdriver is a great offshore boat, designed originally for a 10cc glow.  My dear old Dad and I built one many years ago and fitted it with a 15cc spark Gannet engine. I still have it.

  A couple of years ago, I came across a fibre glass hull for one and that is still waiting building

Title: Re: snapper plans
Post by: spearfish99 on February 24, 2016, 01:54:38 pm

Current add on Ebay Uk.  Same seller has the June edition with the second build part.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MODEL-BOATS-MAY-1968-SNAPPER-TAIHO-AIRCRAFT-CARRIER-KEARSAGE-OLIVER-TIGER-MKIV-/161891937375?hash=item25b182ec5f:g:kdMAAOSwT4lWTdVG

Title: Re: snapper plans
Post by: spearfish99 on February 29, 2016, 10:09:58 am

Just out of interest, I bought the Sept. 1968 Model Boats from the seller above for an article covering the build of Hammerhead , a small offshore racer.

 In the small ads in the back of the magazine was one for Snapper hulls , complete in any colour fibre glass for £7.00.  Don't know what the equivalent price would be today

Title: Re: snapper plans
Post by: inertia on February 29, 2016, 12:00:01 pm

According to this it's £113.65.  http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1633409/Historic-inflation-calculator-value-money-changed-1900.html (http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1633409/Historic-inflation-calculator-value-money-changed-1900.html)
Take care, though - it's only an average calculation and doesn't allow for things like Duty rates. For an extreme example of how far out it can be, a packet of 20 Embassy Tipped cigarettes was 3s 2d (16p) in the late 60s. That translates to £2.57 in 2016 - except a pack of 20 Embassy Red King Size is actually £9.80 in Toss-co!
DM

Title: Re: snapper plans
Post by: spearfish99 on February 29, 2016, 01:43:53 pm

Pity that my time machine is up on bricks for the winter, otherwise it would be worth nipping back and buying a few, so I could make a quick profit.  Would be the only time I have ever made anything out of model boating.

Title: Re: snapper plans
Post by: canabus on March 15, 2016, 05:53:52 am

My time machine would not fit a E-type and a GT40 in with all the kit boats!!!

Title: Re: snapper plans
Post by: spearfish99 on March 15, 2016, 11:52:58 am

We will have to borrow the TARDIS from Dr. Who. That seems big enough for most things

Title: vic smeed plans wanted
Post by: madboats on November 27, 2017, 08:08:45 pm

Hi all. I wonder if anyone can help me in my search for plans pirana, remora and river queen by vic smeed
thank you all in advance
madboats

Title: Re: snapper plans
Post by: tony52 on November 27, 2017, 10:20:55 pm

Pirana is available on the Model Boats site as part of a build article, just click on the small plan under the Model Maker magazine

http://www.modelboats.co.uk/news/article/taming-a-pirana/22934 (http://www.modelboats.co.uk/news/article/taming-a-pirana/22934)

Remora is available from Aerofred or there is one on ebay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/model-boat-plans (http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/model-boat-plans)

https://aerofred.com/details.php?image_id=97247 (https://aerofred.com/details.php?image_id=97247)

River Queen is available from Sarik Hobbies

https://www.sarikhobbies.com/product/river-queen-v102/ (https://www.sarikhobbies.com/product/river-queen-v102/)

hope this helps

Title: vic smeed plans
Post by: madboats on November 29, 2017, 12:11:15 pm

Many thanks Tony52 for your quick reply very helpful indeed


madboats

Title: Re: snapper plans
Post by: inertia on November 29, 2017, 01:39:51 pm

Madboats
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DM