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Title: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on May 17, 2017, 08:23:24 am
Hi have decided to have a go at a Higgins PT boat.
I got the urge early in the year to have a play with some timber.
So here we go.

(http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q776/gra28/DSCF2226_zpskh6olov3.jpg) (http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/gra28/media/DSCF2226_zpskh6olov3.jpg.html)

More to follow.

Gra2
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on May 17, 2017, 08:26:02 am
(http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q776/gra28/DSCF2234_zpsymfjk0bq.jpg) (http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/gra28/media/DSCF2234_zpsymfjk0bq.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on May 17, 2017, 08:27:44 am
(http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q776/gra28/DSCF2238_zpsomgd5zfc.jpg) (http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/gra28/media/DSCF2238_zpsomgd5zfc.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on May 17, 2017, 08:29:21 am
(http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q776/gra28/DSCF2239_zpsdxwlskae.jpg) (http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/gra28/media/DSCF2239_zpsdxwlskae.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on May 17, 2017, 08:32:00 am
Fibre glass covering complete.
(http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q776/gra28/DSCF2250_zps8bffxpvf.jpg) (http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/gra28/media/DSCF2250_zps8bffxpvf.jpg.html)

Graham
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: radiojoe on May 17, 2017, 10:27:36 am
Yeah there's something very satisfying about this kind of scratch building, that starts in your head and ends up on the building board, nice one Graham.  :-))
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: morley bill 1 on May 17, 2017, 03:48:58 pm
Looking good will watch with interest  Bill..
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on May 18, 2017, 06:04:23 am
Thanks for comments.
Rudder setup.

(http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q776/gra28/DSCF2272_zpso5mmmlo9.jpg) (http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/gra28/media/DSCF2272_zpso5mmmlo9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on May 18, 2017, 06:08:05 am
Motor setup single shaft Turnigy brushless outrunner 3639-1100kv.

(http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q776/gra28/DSCF2261_zpsqoebhohp.jpg) (http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/gra28/media/DSCF2261_zpsqoebhohp.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on May 18, 2017, 06:10:22 am
Motor.

(http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q776/gra28/DSCF2262_zpszdaau8ro.jpg) (http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/gra28/media/DSCF2262_zpszdaau8ro.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on May 18, 2017, 06:17:32 am
Screen shot of PT305.

(http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q776/gra28/DSCF2274_zpsxw9rij5p.jpg) (http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/gra28/media/DSCF2274_zpsxw9rij5p.jpg.html)

Name on bow is USS Sudden Jerk boat has just been refurbished after 10years of work.
May be a possible colour scheme.

Graham 
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: Stavros on May 18, 2017, 09:08:49 am
Top tip wrap some insulation tape or heatshrink around the red coupling as brushles have a nasty habit of exploding those couplings....been there had the tee shirt !




Dave
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: Akira on May 18, 2017, 12:53:47 pm
Pat Mathews has made some VERY nice 3D printed fittings that will work very well for you.

https://www.shapeways.com/shops/patmat?section=PT+Boat+Parts&s=0

Great build. I am following it with anticipation!

Jonathan
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: John R Haynes on May 18, 2017, 04:07:28 pm
I produced the 1/24 Higgins and also the Elco as complete kits some years ago now . The hulls and masters sit in my store waiting a manufacture to take an interest in taking over these as I have my hands full with my on-line fittings shop and building for Clients. Also have an MTB
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: Akira on May 18, 2017, 04:15:45 pm
John,
 My grey cells are overwhelming me. I apologize sincerely for forgetting to mention your wonderful  and appropriate products.
Jonathan
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on May 19, 2017, 03:21:36 am
Hi Dave thanks I am aware of coupling danger I have it in hand.

Graham
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on May 19, 2017, 03:30:54 am
Hi John here is a photo of your 80ft Elco that I built many years ago still going strong.

(http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q776/gra28/DSCF1744_zpsu1swank3.jpg) (http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/gra28/media/DSCF1744_zpsu1swank3.jpg.html)

Graham
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: John R Haynes on May 19, 2017, 09:04:49 am
Very Nice Model !!
Best
John
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on May 21, 2017, 10:41:12 am
Hi 3d printed exhaust which I have filled with bog for protection grand kids in background.

(http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q776/gra28/DSCF2282_zps2hb6obfi.jpg) (http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/gra28/media/DSCF2282_zps2hb6obfi.jpg.html)

Graham
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on May 21, 2017, 10:44:28 am
Trial fit of deck and hatch I hope to fit deck in one piece.

(http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q776/gra28/DSCF2280_zpsg2jknvzs.jpg) (http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/gra28/media/DSCF2280_zpsg2jknvzs.jpg.html)

Graham
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on June 05, 2017, 08:21:29 am
Hi some more progress made up some sanding sealer from aero dope and talcum powder for deck and hatch prior to fitting deck.
Easier sanding than when doing the fibre glassing to hull.

(http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q776/gra28/DSCF2297_zpsstgjvah4.jpg) (http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/gra28/media/DSCF2297_zpsstgjvah4.jpg.html)

Graham
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on June 05, 2017, 08:25:35 am
Hull primed and bottom finished.
Tried boat out yesterday and it ran well just need a little more rudder throw at slow speed.

(http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q776/gra28/DSCF2298_zpsucdawlzg.jpg) (http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/gra28/media/DSCF2298_zpsucdawlzg.jpg.html)

Graham
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on June 19, 2017, 07:27:11 am
Hi bit more progress deck glued to hull in four pieces.

(http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q776/gra28/DSCF2299_zpsznmdsvxx.jpg) (http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/gra28/media/DSCF2299_zpsznmdsvxx.jpg.html)

Graham
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on June 19, 2017, 07:29:15 am
(http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q776/gra28/DSCF2302_zpskwdrfnsq.jpg) (http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/gra28/media/DSCF2302_zpskwdrfnsq.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on June 19, 2017, 07:31:06 am
(http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q776/gra28/DSCF2303_zpsn4kdnsqx.jpg) (http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/gra28/media/DSCF2303_zpsn4kdnsqx.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on June 19, 2017, 07:34:40 am
Last one.

(http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q776/gra28/DSCF2306_zpsgtq4std9.jpg) (http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/gra28/media/DSCF2306_zpsgtq4std9.jpg.html)

Deck edge fitting next.

Graham
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on July 06, 2017, 07:12:45 am
Deck edge glued to hull stern hatch made plus start of superstructure.

(http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q776/gra28/DSCF2308_zpskzxddsiz.jpg) (http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/gra28/media/DSCF2308_zpskzxddsiz.jpg.html)

S/structure made from balsa doped a layer of aero tissue on and followed up with four coats of resin.

Graham
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on July 07, 2017, 01:31:48 pm
Another victim of Photobucket no more photos.

Graham
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on July 19, 2017, 07:56:52 am
Test photo after re size.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on July 19, 2017, 07:59:34 am
Looks like I will be able to post more photos well done Mayhem goodbye photo bucket.

Graham
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on July 24, 2017, 07:05:41 am
Hi some more panels and hatches added.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on July 24, 2017, 07:08:39 am
Sorry wrong photo this one should be right.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on July 24, 2017, 10:17:24 am

Try the one above increased to 100K.  I tend to use this size and it fills the screen lovely.

ken
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on July 25, 2017, 08:13:54 am
Thanks Ken will try.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on July 25, 2017, 10:42:54 am

What part of 100K did you not understand. You are now back to double the size.   :}  :}

ken
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on July 25, 2017, 12:24:50 pm
Hi Ken I am old.

Graham
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on July 26, 2017, 10:35:45 am

That makes two of us.        {-)    {-) 

ken
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: ballastanksian on July 29, 2017, 05:14:56 pm
You are doing fine Graham! She looks lovely, very well finished, nice and smooth so far. Are you training the grand kids up for simple jobs like priming and the like?!
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on August 21, 2017, 07:28:48 am
Hi a bit more progress Bofor gun bits and pieces.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on August 21, 2017, 07:35:05 am
Test assembly still have sights to make.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on August 21, 2017, 07:39:04 am
Last one.








Graham
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on September 14, 2017, 06:19:43 am
Hi Bofor assembled and painted.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on September 14, 2017, 06:23:56 am
20mm mounts made.
Oerlikon gun 3d printed but have replaced barrel with brass tube.
In my experience the 3d barrels start to droop.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: srcampb on September 17, 2017, 05:31:48 am
Here is a link to the website for the Higgins PT-658 in Portland, Oregon, if it might be helpful.

Quite a sight to see on the local rivers here when they run it.

I've been on board a few times, please let me know if some onboard pictures would help.

http://www.savetheptboatinc.com/
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: srcampb on September 17, 2017, 05:33:52 am
Graham,

I forgot to mention- VERY nice work on that hull. I can never get chines that straight and sharp on anything I try to build...
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on September 18, 2017, 08:08:25 am
Hi scrcampb thanks for comments and 658 site and photo offer.
I am ok for photo info at the moment but if something comes up I will contact you.

Thanks again.

Graham
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on September 21, 2017, 08:56:45 am
Hi start of .50 calibre turrets.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on September 26, 2017, 08:36:21 am
Hi a bit more progress one of the crew checking work.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on October 16, 2017, 07:38:42 am
 A little more progress frame work around turret and 3d printed .05 calibre m/c guns assembled.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on October 16, 2017, 07:40:19 am
One more.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on December 04, 2017, 06:38:05 am
Hi mast complete apart from painting.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on December 04, 2017, 06:53:13 am
Torpedo mount and torpedo are 3d prints from Shapeways.
Have primed ready for finish colour.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on December 04, 2017, 06:56:59 am
Another photo.

( Double removed - Admin )
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on December 04, 2017, 06:59:30 am
Seem to have doubled up on last photo sorry.








Graham
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: derekwarner on December 04, 2017, 11:15:11 pm
Graham......

Those torpedo rack throwers look very detailed and crisp :-)). I am sure that Shapeways.com would have studied the original drawings & detail before production....[the Shapeways range of naval marine product is  :o mind boggling]

Having said this, the geometry of the assembly appears as having greater throwing requirement than just one vertical handle & hence one person...but would be interested to understand the launching & arming procedure of the Torpedos

[My work in Above Water Weapons did not include Torpedos as whilst they may reside on the deck, were thankfully were classed as an Under Water Weapon]

Derek
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: derekwarner on December 04, 2017, 11:59:54 pm
Is this it Graham?...from about page 35  :((.................. Derek

Product Description

High Detailed 1/24 Scale TORPEDO LIGHT WEIGHT LAUNCHING RACK used with US Navy PT Boat in World War Two.
These racks were used to allow the Mk 13 Torpedo to simply roll out of the deck.
Designed to house my available Mk 13 Torpedo Model.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on December 05, 2017, 06:27:43 am
Hi Derek that's it Panzer vs Tanks by Holden 8702.


Graham
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: Dr.Schmidt on December 06, 2017, 10:22:59 am
Nice 3D prints from Shapeways. Which material did you order and what priomer did you use? I still have problems processing the frosted detail and ultradetail parts.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: tonyH on December 06, 2017, 01:58:23 pm
This is really for Derek! Doesn't answer the specific question but may start the ball rolling.


http://archive.hnsa.org/doc/pt/know/index.htm


A very nice build.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: Perkasaman2 on December 06, 2017, 09:04:45 pm
The torpedoes were,nt thrown but rolled off the carrier cradles. A simple gravity system rolled the torpedoes into the sea. The operating lever once pulled released the cradles which dropped and lowered effectively dumping the released torpedo overboard.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on December 07, 2017, 04:52:45 am
For Derek i understand the captain electrically fired the torpedo from a button in the cockpit once the torpedo starts running the torpedo man pulls the release lever dropping the weapon over the side.

Construction of the vents, cowl is 3d print note segments which was a feature of Higgins boats.
 
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on December 07, 2017, 04:55:07 am
One more.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on December 07, 2017, 05:23:06 am
Dr Schmidt the material is White Strong & Flexible Non Polished White Nylon Plastic.

The primer is from a auto spray can suitable for Acrylic and Enamel paint systems.

Graham
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: Dr.Schmidt on December 07, 2017, 04:36:42 pm
THX
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on December 13, 2017, 05:31:17 am
Almost finished making parts.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on February 12, 2018, 08:25:15 am
Hi have finally started to paint it has been a bit hot.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on February 18, 2018, 06:38:17 am
Hi a few more fittings completed and added to boat. 
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on February 18, 2018, 06:45:24 am
Another photo.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on February 18, 2018, 06:56:32 am
Last one for the moment.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: tassie48 on February 18, 2018, 06:20:00 pm
Graham looking great good to see the fleet growing you do build a great model mate I have a few  to build soon looking forward to the Subchaser and the HDML in 1/24 .


What is next  tassie48
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on February 19, 2018, 08:47:52 am
Hi Tassie nothing in mind at the moment I have run out of room.

Graham
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on February 25, 2018, 08:40:56 am
More photos.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on February 25, 2018, 08:46:34 am
Machine guns and figures 3d prints from Shapeways. 
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on February 25, 2018, 08:50:42 am
Another.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on February 25, 2018, 08:54:23 am
Another.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on February 25, 2018, 08:59:49 am
Raft made from balsa covered in aero tissue with dope.
When I post next photo crew should be aboard.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on February 26, 2018, 08:18:38 am
Hi crew aboard.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on February 26, 2018, 08:27:27 am

This is the end of the build I will try to get some on water shots soon.
Thanks for looking.

Graham
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: Dreadnought on February 26, 2018, 08:43:03 am

Wow looks great!
Those 50cals look vey realistic  :-))
Dreadnought:)
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: Perkasaman2 on February 26, 2018, 06:06:20 pm
Great work. Well done.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: tassie48 on February 26, 2018, 07:19:21 pm
Graham let any master piece i  1/24 scale  well done mate you set a great level to get to with my fleet of  1/24th scale models to build I really enjoy your builds the detail is what brings a smile when viewing thank you tassie48
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on March 09, 2018, 08:16:31 am
Hi a on water shot.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on March 09, 2018, 08:21:22 am
Another.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on March 09, 2018, 08:24:23 am
One more.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on March 16, 2018, 05:15:12 am
Hi some you tube action.
https://youtu.be/P8TZzEbc6fs

Graham
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: martin13 on April 05, 2018, 01:44:38 am
Nice, Very Nice.

Don’t expect anything less from you O0


Mud

Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: Akira on April 06, 2018, 04:54:26 pm
Wicked nice job! She looks perfect on the water.
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: RodP on April 16, 2018, 04:50:48 am
Great job with the build. 

Wonder if it is possible to put crewmen manning the guns and torp rails?
Title: Re: Higgins PT 1/24 Scale.
Post by: gra2 on April 16, 2018, 10:11:45 am
Hi RodP could be done but I have no more figures.
Thanks for comment.

Graham