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Title: Going back to cycling....
Post by: JB on July 31, 2017, 05:46:39 pm
I really need to get sonething like fit again! not overweight just weak and tired out after a bad illness, so i've bought a bike like i had 25 years ago, a 'retro' they call them now.

Found it on ebay, only 3 miles away from home, the seller offered to bring it over for me to have a look at first, being so close to me, I had been looking for months, thought about a new one but a good one is not cheap... not what i was looking at anyway! £500-750 + easy... the seller seemed a decent chap, the write up was excellent so i went for it, just told him i'd have it, a risk i know, he delivered it  for me, I had told him I was just out of the Royal Preston Hospital...never going there again  <*<

Treament was good but....no... must resist >:-o O0

The bike is a 'Viking' make, yes you can get one from Hal----ds but those are not the 1960's-70's Viking of Wolverhampton built bikes, made somewhere in aisa i reckon, the bike sellers relative has one, big mistake he said O0
 I've bought a turbo trainer to start me off, no need to risk the roads yet!

A few photo's here.




Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: tobyker on August 06, 2017, 11:49:45 pm
Very nice. I'm still bicycling at a few years on from you - We're out tomorrow cutting back brambles etc on the Sustrans route. You might find some kind of toe clip or cap useful. I hope the convalescence goes well, and enjoy!
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: malcolmfrary on August 07, 2017, 08:16:25 am
I well recall thinking along those lines a lot of years ago, and tried riding to work.  Terrifying. A lot more traffic than I remembered.
A thing to watch out for, especially with a sports bike, is apparent speed.  When I got my growing kids bikes, they were second hand and needed a few bits n pieces.  So I rode down to a local shop.  About a mile, but over what was then a railway bridge.  Spent several minutes pretending to look at stuff in the window before I had enough breath to go in and ask for my stuff.  Subconsciously, when travelling, you get used to the scenery going past at a given rate.  But cars go faster.  Cars are lower.  Being higher slows the apparent speed so you pedal harder to make up the difference.
+1 on the toe clip & strap - it makes sure that your feet are in the right place on the pedals, stops you having your feet slide off sideways and lets you spread the load on the leg muscles by letting you pull upward as well.  So many pedal with their instep and grow thighs like carthorses.
My physical fitness regime these days consists largely of not using the car for shopping, and having a daily walking expedition to one of the local Aldi or Lidl branches and making sure that I only buy so much by not picking up a basket.  Arms full, finished for the day.  Between that and taking my boat for a walk the length of my lake as often as possible.  And diet, of course.  It seems that a "Mediterranean diet" is not pizza with ice cream afters and washed down with Grappa.  Not carrying the extra three stone around has helped a lot.
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: JB on August 07, 2017, 08:56:25 am
Ok Its today, son is here to pick me up, jon the trailer driver... 70 years young , fit as a rat catchers dog...! remember them? the catchers not the dog,!  will meet us at the place in Batley around 11am.

I'll do the deal after Ian my son, has checked the car over..I leave him to all that, no use me doing it, I'll just look at the paintwork, admire the shape and sit in the seats...all of them, wife will be critical in the extreme with this one...just brought the Audi home and said there dear your new transport ...I dont like it she said  {:-{     

we know the rest . >>:-( <*< Ian is an expert now  O0 :-))

If its what I need we'll be back later. 8) <:( %) :D

Pick one from those and start a sweepstake %%

John.

P.S Cycling?..I can....oop's more later on this bike thread  O0 8)

Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: craggle on August 07, 2017, 10:43:47 am
Nice looking bike John, Have you had the chance to try it out yet?

Although I live in prime Olympic / Ride London / Tour of Britain territory near Surrey I tend to stay away from the roads and spend all my time dodging walkers and horses on the trails around Leith Hill.
Got myself a bike known as a Fat Bike for obvious reasons. Everyone says that must be hard work but it really isn't as bad as it may look!

Enjoy the riding when you get out there and invest in a good hat. I'm often amazed on the roads around here at people that spend thousands of pounds on a bike and all the clothing but don't wear a helmet!

Craig.
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: JB on August 07, 2017, 04:32:25 pm
Quick message for the moment.    its here, photo on the trailer outside park around the corner from my house. got some others and short video..not a clue what to do with video's .... more learning... late back and short of time now, lots to say on this thread and 1-2 others, tea time, i'm shot to bits after the ride to Batley and back,... all went very well no problems at all.

Relieved and happy...maybe the start of a new phase...?

Back when I find my legs and settle down a bit.

John.
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: Plastic - RIP on August 07, 2017, 04:42:10 pm
I recently bought a bike - but the pot-holes around here are so bad that it had to be mountain bike with full suspension. I even got a comfy sprung saddle for it to save my soft bum. The rock-hard road bikes are too hard-core for my flimsy bones.
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: Liverbudgie2 on August 07, 2017, 07:31:50 pm
Quick message for the moment.    its here, photo on the trailer outside park around the corner from my house. got some others and short video..not a clue what to do with video's .... more learning... late back and short of time now, lots to say on this thread and 1-2 others, tea time, i'm shot to bits after the ride to Batley and back,... all went very well no problems at all.

Relieved and happy...maybe the start of a new phase...?

Back when I find my legs and settle down a bit.

John.


She looks very nice. I'm in the process of looking for something similar - but with a soft top to adorn the revamped garage with.

Also understand re hospitals after spending most of the last six months in two of them plus two major op's and numerous infections. The staff for the most part, were great of course but, the grub was horrible for a majority of the time and the beds almost crippled me.

LB
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: JB on August 07, 2017, 09:31:17 pm
and the beds almost crippled me.

LB
Hi Liverbudgie
 Just had to quote that small part.

Completely wacked out beyond sensible now.
the rubber bed HAS crippled me. only 4 months after major spine surgery. a 'fusion'  the bed after only 5 days put me back at least 2 months probably 3 really, was doing fine and starting to get about a bit, even did a small shop at local morrisons..i have the weekly shop delivered for the last 15 months but tried to go and get a chicken ready cooked. onlyin the place 10 minutes, can hardly walk now...so ru**y furious with that bed and the uncaring attitude of some of the staff discharged myself against the advice  of consultants. got out of there before they killed me..no kidding seriously  <*<
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: tigertiger on August 08, 2017, 03:03:46 am
Cycling is good exercise. A few weeks ago I saw an ad for an insurance company offering discounts if you cycle more than 50 miles per week. When I first got home from my heart bypass, I walked a lot, but I read that cycling is much better, as people naturally work more of the body and get the heart rate up a bit more, even with easy cycling. I will confess that I have not lost any weight, which is still unhealthy around 100Kg. However I was also starting to get circulation problems, including varicose veins in my thighs, these circulation problems have now completely cleared up.


I started cycling again regularly last year, to work and back (3 miles each way). I retired completely this year, and now do short errands by bike instead of car. A couple of weeks ago I rode 110 Km (about 65 miles) around the local lake in a day. Last weekend I did a 28Km mountain tournament bike event, I finished the course (admit I walked a fair bit) and achieved my goal of not coming last. :-))



One thing I have learned is to set realistic goals for my age. Long slow distances, with a couple of days rest after, are no problem. Getting on the bike at least 3 days a week, no problem. Taking a ride of at least 15 miles once a week, no problem. In fact, just going to some destination, riding around for a bit, and coming back, it is surprising how quickly the mileage racks up. But those are my targets now, I started much more modestly with just riding to work.


APPs. There are lots of APPs out there if you have a smart phone. I use SpeedX which is free. It will log and map your routes, and give your riding statistics, as well as linking to AppleHealth APP if you use it. Although it tracks your routes live, it does not use up your data package, but it does consume batteries.


JaB, I am sure you will enjoy your return to two wheels, especially if you enjoyed it in the past. It is a great way of keeping fit, without the tedium of keep fit exercises (gym bores the hell out of me), and cycling is cheap.
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: JB on August 08, 2017, 06:15:25 am
Thanks to

tobyker
malcolmfrary
craggle
plastic
Liverbudge
tigertiger

all advice much appreciated guys.

Where to start...at the top i suppose ...

need to be careful i dont gat timed out !

bit at a time post by post? .. think best way.

tobyker...  how enjoyable, i'll be doing similar before long, 'West Coast fish and chip run next June/July maybe? might be a challenge?  :embarrassed:

cheers.
John. 
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: roycv on August 08, 2017, 08:56:34 am
Hi all, I have had a bike these last 18 years, a hybrid, more neglected than ridden, but it all works. I shall be on it again soon to get a bit fit for my next holiday break. As when I visit son in Oz, my every other day schedule is a 20 minute cycle to the beach an hour's walk in the surf and cycle back and a shower to follow. 
I am usually knackered at this point but it certainly gets rid of a few pounds in weight and I enjoy the cycling as well.
When I was there last I commented to my son how careful the motorists were to me, he told me they had just introduced stiff penalties for drivers who run into bikes.
A good walk or cycle helps circulation as I understand that the action of the leg muscles assists the flow of blood around the body.
regards Roy
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: JB on August 08, 2017, 10:18:31 am
Malcolm...did you make a post on this thread just now..? cant see it, looks like it missed the target could be my end, pc's going potty, switching between desk and lap. both overheating..sending ian to pc world soon for replacement desktop....enough already ...
 
what do we reckon?  http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/hp-pavilion-570-p019na-desktop-pc-10159071-pdt.html

should sort it all out. :o :o :o

John.
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: malcolmfrary on August 08, 2017, 12:50:00 pm
Wasn't me.
That tower looks like it should be capable of almost anything.  The thought has suddenly struck me that computers have stayed the same price for the last 30 years, but their capabilities are way beyond what you had a hope of in 1987.  I'll bet that that one fires up almost as fast as my PCW8512 did back then.
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: JB on August 08, 2017, 01:28:20 pm
Hi Malcolm
NO wnsn't you, know that now, another discovery..i think its my 'Hi di Hi's'! causing my odd...at times, mood.  :embarrassed:

 A reference here, story behind this , naturally, O0 tooo long to post here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrocodeine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrocodeine)

The tower..tired of upgrading every 18 months or so, this should last even me a while...

Cheers for now lots to do. :-))
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: ChrisF on August 08, 2017, 02:10:10 pm
Reading this thread has reminded me that I must start using my bike again.

I used to race when I was young but find a racing bike like the Viking would be too extreme now, I'm 63, and so about three years ago I bought a new bike but a hybrid with flat bars, much more comfortable.

Rode it when I first had it but not since.

As said, the roads are getting too dangerous now. We have some cycle tracks by us, but not too many.

My problem is that even though I'm semi-retired I still find it difficult to make the time. must make the effort, in more ways than one!
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: JB on August 08, 2017, 02:26:45 pm
Nice looking bike John, Have you had the chance to try it out yet?

Although I live in prime Olympic / Ride London / Tour of Britain territory near Surrey I tend to stay away from the roads and spend all my time dodging walkers and horses on the trails around Leith Hill.
Got myself a bike known as a Fat Bike for obvious reasons. Everyone says that must be hard work but it really isn't as bad as it may look!

Enjoy the riding when you get out there and invest in a good hat. I'm often amazed on the roads around here at people that spend thousands of pounds on a bike and all the clothing but don't wear a helmet!

Craig.
Hiya craggle  :-)

No not going thsre , to mucky for the jag :o wife would kill me!

strangely i seem to be ok on this race type bike considering my back??? only had a few short goes up to now, 4 times  of 5 minutes only a slow start but a least doing a bit

wont be on the roads yet, turbo will do me  for now, hope to find a riding pal or 2 locally when i'm ready for that, seen a few around, one i know  :-))
a lid yes no preoblem, quiet round here , rural area, done before 25 years ago now with a riding mate, not seen for 10 years, hill near here only short but steep, called Dowbridge area, cant think of road name it will  come to me later, near windmill now a residence, think its haunted cos always up for sale!!!

First bike a 'Sun' back in 1968, work transport, fell off lots of time...not a scratch,..lucky?

cheers for the post and all.

John
 
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: JB on August 08, 2017, 04:53:43 pm
I recently bought a bike - but the pot-holes around here are so bad that it had to be mountain bike with full suspension. I even got a comfy sprung saddle for it to save my soft bum. The rock-hard road bikes are too hard-core for my flimsy bones.

Hi Plastic  {-)

Turbo Trainer needed for you i recon  O0

No need to spend a lot, you know you should, i'll help you on your way..go here, not a lot of money and think of the cash you could save by changing a few things , no car  - bus ride - fags or whatever.. :D

https://www.evanscycles.com/cycleops-mag-trainer-EV196739 (https://www.evanscycles.com/cycleops-mag-trainer-EV196739)

The one i got, easy set up no road to worry about and if you do fall off... soft carpet .. :-)

Thanks for the post.
John.

Not forgotten you Malcolm, comprehensive post...  reply to match..! :D 8) take a bit longer..!

John.



 
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: Plastic - RIP on August 08, 2017, 06:57:40 pm
Nice suggestion, but an indoor bike wouldn't get me to the local supermarket or out to the coffee shop to meet with friends (while I cough up a lung or feel really sick from all the exercise and adrenal suppression)  :o
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: Perkasaman2 on August 08, 2017, 07:03:53 pm
How about an electric cycle - less pain more gain.  ok2


http://wooshbikes.co.uk/
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: JB on August 08, 2017, 07:05:32 pm
Nice suggestion, but an indoor bike wouldn't get me to the local supermarket or out to the coffee shop to meet with friends (while I cough up a lung or feel really sick from all the exercise and adrenal suppression)  :o

Oh Dear..no it woulndn't   :-X err, let me think, not my best attribute just now  <:(

You been se the doc then.. hosptal had the tests and the rest...digging a hole here then i am  too  <:( <:( <:(

dunno now..stuck ....help.
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: tigertiger on August 09, 2017, 05:42:28 am
Electric bikes are a silly price in UK. The bikes like the ones in the link are about 200 quid to buy here. For 500  quid you will get something as large as a large motor scooter, with 72V system, and they will do 60 kph.




JaB, I don't understand what you mean when you say, 'dunno now..stuck ....help.'
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: roycv on August 09, 2017, 09:11:58 am
Hi all, a long time back I put a bicycle on a stand so that you could ride it to get some exercise, the rear wheel rested on a roller.  The wall behind me ended up with a streak of rubber on the wall that was very difficult to remove.
Get out on your bike just do not over do it.  If the bike will go in the back of your car then go somewhere safe like a local park and cycle there.
Exercise will give you more modelling time, do your thinking on your bike.  I am a good deal past the age in the heading so speak with a little experience and much hindsight.
regards Roy
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: JB on August 09, 2017, 09:44:34 am

JaB, I don't understand what you mean when you say, 'dunno now..stuck ....help.'

When I saw Plastic's post I felt 'oh no' that's not good, felt sorry I'd replied to him like that.

I didn''t know he had servere problems like those  :((

Gutted.

Saying sorry too late now,

I've sent am email to Martin (Admin) requesting I be removed from the forum, no response yet.

Thanks guy's it's been good while it lasted........

JaB.
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: Plastic - RIP on August 09, 2017, 01:12:18 pm
When I saw Plastic's post I felt 'oh no' that's not good, felt sorry I'd replied to him like that.

I didn''t know he had servere problems like those  :((

Gutted.

Saying sorry too late now,

I've sent am email to Martin (Admin) requesting I be removed from the forum, no response yet.

Thanks guy's it's been good while it lasted........

JaB.

It's not too much of a problem - I live on Prednisolone so the adrenal response doesn't work - vigorous exercise can have unpredictable results.
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: JB on August 10, 2017, 05:58:49 am
Hi guys

Had a think and decided I'll reply to the post's on this thread,, I have to do that at least so here goes, be a miracle if all this works.

John

  Morning Malcolm
 I rode to work back in 1968 on my new Sun Snipe, £26 quid - £2  a month from local bike shop,
 paid for with my paper round earnings , £1-2 a week! Paid off no prob, fell off lots of times, read crashed it...no t a scratch on me,  bike not so lucky , hit a child..only 15 myself!, head on going round into a 'ginnel' ??? !!! front wheel  S  shaped, carried it home, bike shop bloke tried to fix it but never the same again,  new wheel but spoilt the ride,sold on to a relative !   
 Had toe clips  and staps on the Sun good idea, on order, next bike a Dawes 'Milk Race'in 1989, similar to the Sun but 10 speed, half decent bike, got 'Look' brand clip on pedals and shoes to match, a revelation after straps, pull up easy,  double the effect of pedaling – unclip? Twist your foot to one side and you are out, click back in while still moving...yeah man...!
 I've have to use my car all the time even short trips, disc injury wouldn't let me walk more than the corner of the street 30yds or so, seized up completly, very frustrating after being fit as a butchers dog..its that dog again! Ha ha.
 

 
 Don't lke pizza or foriegn foods at all, hotpot or egg chips and beans man..! no alco, think i've mentioned already???, I've been the same weight for last ...50 years!
 

 
 Catch you when I can at one of the lakes soon, I hope.
 Thanks for the post Malc.
 John.
 

 
 

 
 

 
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: JB on August 10, 2017, 06:01:13 am
  Liverbudgie
 XK100 or 150? or just an X152?! :)))
 

 
 Older Jags are not a lot of money are they, feel like ive robbed i've the guy with this XJ6,  not first time either!
 Only I need to watch the vehicle tax...no comment.
 

 
 I don't go local main stealers, service and run of the mill stuff at local garage or Preston Jag Centre for serious work, took my X to PJC, recommended, i'll be going to look see if it's the still same now, hope so, pray so!!.
 Let us know any developments, not too far away from you. convoy later? !!!
 Cheers
 John.
 

 
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: JB on August 10, 2017, 06:03:30 am
  chris f
 It's all in your mind..I think!
 Get that bike out and make a small start if I can think about it and set myself up 25 years later you can at least try, you have been there  before, not wishing to force you or anything of course..!
 

 
 Only semi-retired? I'm full now, not got time to spit...
 Hee Hee.!
 Thanks..see you on the road next year.
 John.
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: JB on August 10, 2017, 06:04:48 am
  Roycv
 I'm in the conservatory so need to watch out for the wife, she doesn't usually bother me  just  lets  me get on with whatever Im doing.
 Yes been thinking about a car rack, don't know what sort yet, best plan is to go down the bike shop..only 5 miles to the local Evans, get them to advise on what would be best for me?.
 

 
 Experience and hindsight..always good to have plenty of both...
 Thanks for the advice, I'll be taking it.
 

 
 John.
 

 
 

 
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: JB on August 10, 2017, 10:07:11 am
somethings not right?  missing a body or 2.. i think...not sure.back later if i can work it out :-X
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: Liverbudgie2 on August 10, 2017, 12:38:16 pm
  Liverbudgie
 XK100 or 150? or just an X152?! :)))
 

 
 Older Jags are not a lot of money are they, feel like ive robbed i've the guy with this XJ6,  not first time either!
 Only I need to watch the vehicle tax...no comment.
 

 
 I don't go local main stealers, service and run of the mill stuff at local garage or Preston Jag Centre for serious work, took my X to PJC, recommended, i'll be going to look see if it's the still same now, hope so, pray so!!.
 Let us know any developments, not too far away from you. convoy later? !!!
 Cheers
 John.

If only:)  There are some lovely XJ saloons out there and most are relatively cheap and to run as well - if you don't want it as an every day car and you can get classic insurance. But as usual, I have set my heart on something different which are not cheap to purchase. I don't mean an E type either! As good ones now are going for well over 100K. No, I want something that could be best described as a "gentleman's touring vehicle" I suppose, which I can drive around in, show off in other words, while I rebuilt my TR6!

LB
LB
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: JB on August 10, 2017, 01:00:09 pm
Some therapy needed ..if no one minds?

Broke my ship

PC to set up...nooo!

Fresh motor.
Title: Re: Going back to cycling....
Post by: JB on August 10, 2017, 01:04:17 pm
Well nearly in the right order.suppose you can work it out!
Title: Re: Going back to cycling....
Post by: JB on August 10, 2017, 01:08:41 pm
let me guess..... :embarrassed: xk 120 drophead..?
Title: Re: Going back to cycling....
Post by: JB on August 10, 2017, 01:12:50 pm
sorry...roadster  :embarrassed: :embarrassed: :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Going back to cycling.... Tigertiger
Post by: JB on August 11, 2017, 06:01:03 am
  Tigertiger
 Its' all down to what you eat I think? I don't eat a lot but need regular feeding with decent grub, got some gels to try from Evans cycles, half price, mixed box all looks good, 25 in the box, just a boost when I need extra,  not an alterative to food.
 Yes slow and easy, enjoy the view and companionship best way when you are older, done it before with a cycling pal, we can't go blasting about like a 15 year old now, be dead next week!
 Never mind the bad back.
 

 
 Don't know about apps yet, my son still trying to drag me into 21st century, smartphone for a dummy?!! i'll get there but don't wait for me..Really looking forward to being back on a bike..this Viking is just like my old one's, waited ages for it to appear, had to buy it at first sight, bit silly but not one to miss an opportunity me..only spent same as a bike from H......s... far better I reckon???...
 

 
 Might be a while before I can get some in but a can wait a bit, all i Need is building up around me.
 

 
 Cheers for the post and encouragement.
 John.
Title: Re: Going back to cycling after 25 years, at 64? must be nuts!
Post by: JB on August 11, 2017, 08:22:14 am
How about an electric cycle - less pain more gain.  ok2


http://wooshbikes.co.uk/ (http://wooshbikes.co.uk/)

Yes a really good idea, maybe try one? wonder if they want tester's?  O0 I like the look of the GTech thing, more info needed.

Thanks for the post Perkasaman

John.
Title: Re: Going back to cycling....
Post by: Jerry C on August 11, 2017, 09:12:55 am
At 60 I decided it would be good if I could live long enough to see my new, first grandson graduate from uni. Now I was someone who when he felt the urge for physical exercise would have a lie down until it passed off. So I enrolled in a local gym. Lots of bikes, treadmills and instruments of torture. I stuck it for 3 months but found it all incredibly boring. So I got a mountain bike off freecycle. That first ride, 300yds out and back nearly killed me. The saddle was made of recycled razor blades soaked in battery acid. I got a Brooks B17 saddle which was heaven in comparison and just got on with it. In a very short time I was doing trips on cycle paths of 14 then 28 miles. I did everything to avoid hills. After about 6 months I realised I'd got the wrong bike so I bought an entry level modern road bike for £250 quid off eBay. I never looked back. It seemed to go up hills by itself.
I'm 68 now and have done 4 Tour de Môns, 3 Étape Eryri and The Big Canberra Bike Ride. I've formed Team JCB with friends and family and had great times. In December when I return to Oz we are enter in The Étape Australia in the Snowy Mountains climbing Oz's highest peak. Riding with us will be Chris Froome. I live on a narrowboat now and training is riding to Spar stores, B&Q and Screwfix and the like. I'm as fit as I think I can be. It's probably the most sensible decision I've ever made. B17 saddles aren't cheap to buy but you'll only buy one. Mine travels with me between UK and Oz. My two daughters also are part of the team and love it.
I look awful in Lycra but you know I really don't give a toss. Get on it, get out there, on good roads and enjoy yourself.
Jerry.
Title: Re: Going back to cycling....
Post by: JB on August 12, 2017, 01:14:59 pm
Jerry, thats a brilliant post thanks so much. i'll just do it soon as i can  :-))  having to use my phone now :embarrassed:  desktop in bits, laptop too hot! Back later .
maybe %)
Title: Re: Going back to cycling....
Post by: JB on August 12, 2017, 07:53:08 pm
At 60 I decided it would be good if I could live long enough to see my new, first grandson graduate from uni. Now I was someone who when he felt the urge for physical exercise would have a lie down until it passed off. So I enrolled in a local gym. Lots of bikes, treadmills and instruments of torture. I stuck it for 3 months but found it all incredibly boring. So I got a mountain bike off freecycle. That first ride, 300yds out and back nearly killed me. The saddle was made of recycled razor blades soaked in battery acid. I got a Brooks B17 saddle which was heaven in comparison and just got on with it. In a very short time I was doing trips on cycle paths of 14 then 28 miles. I did everything to avoid hills. After about 6 months I realised I'd got the wrong bike so I bought an entry level modern road bike for £250 quid off eBay. I never looked back. It seemed to go up hills by itself.
I'm 68 now and have done 4 Tour de Môns, 3 Étape Eryri and The Big Canberra Bike Ride. I've formed Team JCB with friends and family and had great times. In December when I return to Oz we are enter in The Étape Australia in the Snowy Mountains climbing Oz's highest peak. Riding with us will be Chris Froome. I live on a narrowboat now and training is riding to Spar stores, B&Q and Screwfix and the like. I'm as fit as I think I can be. It's probably the most sensible decision I've ever made. B17 saddles aren't cheap to buy but you'll only buy one. Mine travels with me between UK and Oz. My two daughters also are part of the team and love it.
I look awful in Lycra but you know I really don't give a toss. Get on it, get out there, on good roads and enjoy yourself.
Jerry.

Insiped and reassured by Jerry,I got on the turbo at 3pm... managed only 2 minutes on the small cog leg pain heavy breathing but got off...just... nearly fell off if i'm honest.... don't know the gear set up yet need to check that, i'm confident it will be good for some easy riding to begin with will suit.

This bike was built by an enthusiast. he told me he was about to dismantle a tandem for taking across to france to ride with his wife on a touring holiday.

Good tale about the bikes! been there done etc...the Sun back in 1968 had a brooks saddle, yep like riding a knife on on steroids, you got used to it after a few hundred miles !!!. not sure if the saddle shaped itself to you or the other way round. eek.oow.....feel sick.

Must go before lappy complains. smartphone for a dummy? yep............

 
Title: Re: Going back to cycling....
Post by: Jerry C on August 12, 2017, 09:23:03 pm
JaB,
Get the man to fit your bike with a "compact gear set". 50/34tooth front set and11/34 or 11/36 at a pinch rear cassette. This is a really good setup for an ageing road rider. Your top speed descending will be a bit limited but you'll be able to carry a higher cadence when climbing. Having an over geared bike means you have to "grind" up hills which will suck the life out of your legs in seconds. Your rear mech (the stuff that changes the gears and takes up the slack on the chain) may not be able to handle it though but worth changing for a mech that can. Enjoy riding your bike but be prepared to upgrade to a modern aluminium framed bike with carbon forks. The B17 standard saddle is a brilliant sports/touring saddle. As your average speeds will be slower than your younger counterparts so you will spend longer in the saddle. It is very comfortable out of the box but rapidly improves. It is made of fine quality leather but fits modern seat stems. It needs to be kept dry and regularly treated with Brooks preservative. It will last your lifetime and more. Mine is 8 years old and gets better all the time. Google it and read the reviews. You'll have good rides and bad but the bad ones usually turn out to be a better time. Get the Strava app for your phone and use it.  It allows you to compare yourself to riders of similar age and weight. It helps you to really monitor your progress and also to compare against yourself. Also bone up on nutrition and hydration/ electrolytes. Very important. Gels and stuff to put in your water bottles. I swear by jelly babies and liquorice alsorts but also use gels. Often Aldi and Lidl sell complete sets at very cheap prices. It won't be long before you can look at doing Sportifs. They are great fun and you will surprise yourself at what you can achieve. Stay safe and where the right gear. Aldi is also a good source for kit.
Best wishes
Jerry.
Title: Re: Going back to cycling....
Post by: tigertiger on August 13, 2017, 02:35:58 am
managed only 2 minutes on the small cog leg pain heavy breathing but got off... 
   




Just a thought, there is probably a resistance setting on the Turbo machine. It might be set on high, if so change it to minimum.
Title: Re: Going back to cycling....
Post by: JB on August 13, 2017, 04:54:14 am
 Jerry that’s just what i needed, some experienced advice, been looking at new bikes for months, thought best idea for a start was something like i had when a lad, at least I’d know how to ride it and change gear.
Saw something like this before i found the Viking. 2016 bike tho, How can i get it past the Mrs.
Changed my car twice in two months - new PC and other bits including the Haynes Cycling Manual. She’ll probably shoot me.
https://www.evanscycles.com/bianchi-via-nirone-carbon-xenon-2017-road-bike-EV307756 (https://www.evanscycles.com/bianchi-via-nirone-carbon-xenon-2017-road-bike-EV307756)
Gels came last week, half price. Some other bits in the pipeline too.
https://www.evanscycles.com/high-5-isogel-mixed-box-EV211355 (https://www.evanscycles.com/high-5-isogel-mixed-box-EV211355)
I don’t think she will let me spend that on another bike, got a model to collect at the end of the month as well, The Audi is parked up at my son’s storage place 10 miles away, for sale soon so should get some money back from that mistake.
 
If anyone is wondering, I’m doing this in MS office word, copy and paste to the reply box, cheating…ha.
Grateful to you for taking the time to post all this info. Everything noted...printed the whole thread off now. All good useful stuff so thanks to all the guys who posted too, I Will try and get this new PC up and running. Son asked if I could build him a new PC, my old one is not good thinking about an upgrade but it’s a low end HP/Compac job, no slots for sound and video, all on the M/Board. Cost less to buy him a new one I think.
Cheers for now.
John.
 
 
Title: Re: Going back to cycling....
Post by: JB on August 13, 2017, 06:49:21 am
   




Just a thought, there is probably a resistance setting on the Turbo machine. It might be set on high, if so change it to minimum.

Hi tiger
not sure there is yet. check later thanks for the suggestion. :-)

bike check.
guy said he thinks frame Reynolds 531, not certain stickers worn a lot, had respray by Brian Rouke?
saddle Icaselle  - 'ISCA' Italy soft - on side starting to wear off a little
5sp chainring 48 teeth..looking good. will do the cassette later, just to keep interest going!!!
Huret 5sp rear mech... just like my old Sun. %)
tyres Swalbe active.
pedals milremo  :-)

There is a frame number, guessed built around 1960 by seller, no one sure about ser. no's!  not seen it myself. yet.
Thats all i can tell for now. :-))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqNnPrxzm3g %% {-) {-)

 
Title: Re: Going back to cycling....
Post by: JB on August 13, 2017, 07:20:23 am
Who would like me to go PM's - Emails only?

Take a vote.... secret if you like...I will abide by the result.

JaB (John)  :-))
Title: Re: Going back to cycling....
Post by: Jerry C on August 13, 2017, 09:09:10 am
Hi again,
That bike from Evans will destroy you and spoil everything. It's over geared on the rear and doesn't even quote the chain ring sizes but I'll bet they are 52 or 54. Way too tall for you. Very fast though. Your present, nostalgic bike also not suitable because of difficulties in maintaining it. You can't for example renew bearings as they don't sell cups anymore, ball bearings and cones yes but you never mix new with old.  Front chain ring is too small and there's only one. You'll never manage the hills. It's also overpriced. With a bit of bargaining you needn't spend more than £600 ish. Buy last years model. If it's the latest model and pretty colours you desperately need then you're a lost cause. Campagnolo gear is niche market. Shimano kit is like Ford, it's cheap and cheerful, does the job and the permutations are endless. Carbon bikes are very nice and there are some cheap ones out there but they are easily damaged, difficult to repair and the damage doesn't show. They are not for you, yet. You're going to fall off a few times when first you fit clip less  pedals I'll guarantee it. The second time is the most painfull cos you land on the bit you hurt last week!! I ride a Trek 1.1 1915/16 model. Use the dealers fitting service cos modern bikes are a different shape and use different measurements to your old bike. If buying new bike,fitting usually free but worth  £80 cos the wrong size will spoil enjoyment. I'm happy to post here cos other peeps may find value too. Rgds
Jerry.
Title: Re: Going back to cycling....
Post by: JB on August 13, 2017, 09:39:50 am
 I understand what you are saying. Good job you are ar dont think i would have bought bought that bike just on wish list. Was shimano last year. Thought it was o3dd. Never thought about spares..a museum piece? Not worried its ok foy the turbo not do me any harm in the consevatory. Hard on my phone. Wife called son cos im 'kicking off' no good link to internet. Need at the moment cant drive the jag yet. Banking..shopping from onlinevsupermarket all essential for me now till im back somthing like fit. Got tòo drive least. B a wk yet..back later with any luck. Stuck at the minute.!!!!
Title: Re: Going back to cycling....
Post by: Norseman on August 13, 2017, 07:31:39 pm
Hi Guys


Having read through this thread (I also signed up for swimming today) I've decided to get my bike out again. Two years since I last rode and I only gave up then because the arthritis in my thumbs got too much. I guess I could change the handlebars - they are the straight across type. I lack the correct terminology to say what I need but something to lessen the weight.


I loved getting fitter on my bike but at least once a week motorists tried to kill me.


Dave
Title: Re: Going back to cycling....
Post by: tigertiger on August 14, 2017, 03:24:13 am
... I only gave up then because the arthritis in my thumbs got too much. I guess I could change the handlebars ...
 


Butterfly bars (or even Dutch bars) will help. Not only do you have ways of changing your grip as you ride, you can also angle the bars to near vertical (giving a more upright riding position). There are also handle bar riser tubes to raise the height. On my bike I also slid the saddle forward, there are rails under most saddles that allow this. I suffer from arthritis in one shoulder, and constantly need to shift my weight. The other alternative is change your bike to one with a more upright riding style, some of the city bikes have the rider sitting fully upright, you won't be able to race but you will still get plenty of exercise.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B073JQJLRM/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1502677582&sr=8-5&keywords=butterfly+bar
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Bikes-Cycling-Equipment/HOLLAND-STYLE-DUTCH-COMFORT-TRADITIONAL-CHROME-HANDLEBARS/B01J5M6XSG/ref=pd_sbs_200_5?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=S4HWC0S8FYGGBH213C1V



As for cars, if you go out with the mentality that every car is trying to kill you, you are more prepared and will be safer.

Title: Re: Going back to cycling....
Post by: Norseman on August 14, 2017, 12:20:33 pm
Thanks, yes both good options. I think I'll visit my bike shop and decide there whether to alter mine or to buy a replacement bike. Retirement is calling ever louder so soon cycling and swimming will be my main exercise. ... I found out yesterday that being sixty gets me a 40% discount at the local sports centre.
Title: Re: Going back to cycling....
Post by: tigertiger on August 14, 2017, 02:01:13 pm
I have a hybrid bike. A bit like a mountain bike, but with full mudguards, front shocks, 24 speed, carriers front and rear, and butterfly bars. I also hand painted it, so that it is really not that attractive to thieves. Hand-painted, harder to fence, and harder to sell second hand. I also keep it dirty, except for the working parts, a thief will probably be too lazy to clean it, unless it is super valuable.


 If I were buying a new bike, something I would look for is the LED lights built into the frame. That way you never have to carry lights around and they are always there when you need them.
Title: Re: Going back to cycling....
Post by: steamboatmodel on August 14, 2017, 05:12:30 pm

Do keep this thread on, My wife just got one of the hybrid bikes from Canadian Tire, had to phone my son to find out all the questions she had about it. I looked at the bikes but them main problem I have with them is the number of wheels, there is only two and my balance which was never good has not improved with age. I have looked at the granycycles, but  there is not enough room between the saddle and the peddles. Have seen adds for the Terratrikes  rover, but the price is way over my budget.
Regards,
Gerald.
Title: Re: Going back to cycling....
Post by: tobyker on August 15, 2017, 10:58:53 pm
Its nice to hear there are bicyclists on Mayhem. Beware though: the ideal number of bicycles to own is n+1, where the number currently owned is n. At present I only have one Giant Defy 2 road bike for the occasional keep fit ride, a Giant hybrid go-to bike for popping down the shops with panniers, and a fat bike for playing about on. (Apart from the 2 Strida folders and the fixie made with a ladies Townsend frame.) all great fun in their way and help keep me active. Join Sustrans - support the National Cycle Network and if you can, volunteer for your local group checking the signage and maintaining the paths.