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The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Lifeboats => Topic started by: Holger on October 11, 2018, 06:25:50 pm
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Speedline Tamar Lester 1/12
now I'm a proud owner of the kit in 1/12 ..
au man is the big .. lol ..
I'm really looking forward to building that .. !!!!!!!!
It will still take some time until I am in the cellar of the new apartment electricity and light but until then I am diligently gathering information and worrying about how I can later realize my wishes in the reality .. it should then in my model like that much like me is possible to move and work as well as the big model ..
as soon as it starts I will share my progress with you here ..
I hope that it works with the pictures ..
Holger
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If you think that is big,you had better not buy a Severn model or a Clyde model in the same scale lol👍👍
Mick F
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Hoi Mick ..
I was only surprised by the size .. Although I have used a ruler when ordering .. but he does not show the true dimensions .. lol ..
but now I'm happy about it ..
my first work will be the grinding of the hull .. from the bow tip extends over the keel to the heel seams .. below the tailgate are also seams and at the transition from the hull to the deck are almost all around smaller dents and corners ..
they have to get away so that the hull is perfect too ..
the actual work with the keels begins ..
Holger
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drive search ..
by Adrian and some others, the emax 4030 is recommended .. but after intense search, I find him not .. he will probably no longer manufactured ..
by a note from Taranis I came across the Turnigy Aerodrive SK3 - 4250-410KV ..
and that will probably be my drive setup ..
https://hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-aerodrive-sk3-4250-410kv-brushless-outrunner-motor.html
https://hobbyking.com/de_de/hobbyking-90a-boat-esc-4a-sbec.html
https://hobbyking.com/de_de/turnigy-battery-5000mah-5s-25c-lipo-pack-xt-90.html
what do you think .. ??
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I recommend you buy a programming card as well ..... https://hobbyking.com/de_de/hobbyking-boat-esc-programming-card.html
My Tamar never needed higher than 25 amp fuses with similar motors.
Many are using the same motors with the Speedline Shannon and have found the Turnigy ESCs to be a better product....
https://hobbyking.com/de_de/catalogsearch/result/?cat=&q=+9261000054-0 ( 50 amp ) or https://hobbyking.com/de_de/catalogsearch/result/?cat=&q=9261000056-0 ( 90 amp )
plus the card to match... https://hobbyking.com/de_de/catalogsearch/result/?cat=&q=9261000059-0
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I agree with Alan and I use the 50amp Turnigy marine ESC too. Despite numerous thrashings they won't take out a 25 amp fuse :-)) I no longer fit fuses and rely on the ESC to protect itself.
They are on the lower equipment shelf with servos and pumps.
A different boat yes and we use 1185kv 35-42 which may not be suitable for the Tamar so I would stick to the tried and tested.
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-TGRJ7VJ/1/be5fac8e/X3/i-TGRJ7VJ-X3.jpg)
An out of date picture without upper shelf and fuses now scrapped
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-S2q2Bst/0/0cfed76c/X2/i-S2q2Bst-X2.jpg)
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Sorry .. the programming card I had forgotten to write with ..
the regulator the Kinmel .. - he is called Alan .. ?? - I think it's fitting .. :-)) :-))
and thanks for the pictures
Holger
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After a long break, I now report back .. Meanwhile, the heart of Tamar has arrived and I have started to drill the rudder blades .. and although I have bored very slowly is partially way the half millimeter from the edge melted as I think .. but if I embed the 4 mm stainless steel rod, the holes are filled again .. after grinding the rudder shape and painting it will be nothing to see ..
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After a long break, I now report back .. Meanwhile, the heart of Tamar has arrived and I have started to drill the rudder blades .. and although I have bored very slowly is partially way the half millimeter from the edge melted as I think .. but if I embed the 4 mm stainless steel rod, the holes are filled again .. after grinding the rudder shape and painting it will be nothing to see ..
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yes Neil .. so it should actually be read .. I hope it works now synonymous with the images to ..
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the last two parts .. the covers of the water inlets - are now there .. I would like to use them to cool over a small pump, the two controllers .. now I have everything then in winter to finish everything so that the Tamar in the spring the first time into the water can ..
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Very realistic :-))
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the last two parts .. the covers of the water inlets - are now there .. I would like to use them to cool over a small pump, the two controllers .. now I have everything then in winter to finish everything so that the Tamar in the spring the first time into the water can ..
Where did you get those covers from??
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Hoi Ginger
I let them have 3D print from the company ..
https://www.3dnetzwerk.com/zeitdruck/
but surely there is someone near you who can print them for you .. I have a drawing with the measurements from the article here by OVL - TAMAR Speedline 1/12 - made page 2 and sent to the company ..
greetings Holger
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Very realistic :-))
yes Taranis ..
they look great .. I am now only on the superior if I leave them in color as the color is already very close to the original color approach ..
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Thanks for that information
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Did you get an STL file from the 3D printing company, or did you send them one?
Cheers
Lance
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Neither Lance nor .. I have sent him a drawing with the measurements .. he then gave me a picture of the model if it is ok for me or if I may have change requests .. he has then changed something .. me again then sent a picture again and I then gave my ok to print .. but you will surely find someone near you or on the island .. from here, too, the shipping would be very expensive ..
Holger
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hi all again
are the bolts supplied by speedline on the 1/12 scale tamar 14ba or 12ba with head one size smaller,have had reply from member in cornwall has some spare from his trent build may contact him as the size seems difficult to obtain
thanks for members help
howard spary#
scuppers
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they are 12BA Steel Hex Head Bolts (one size smaller head) and are usually in stock at ...
https://www.chronos.ltd.uk/acatalog/Steel_Hex_Head__one_size_smaller__BA_Bolts.html - Scroll down the page for 12BA
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now it goes slowly forward .. first I would like to prepare the hull for painting and then drill everything .. grind .. this should also come to the two water inlets on the rear fuselage bottom .. but since they are not shown in the plans I need now necessarily the dimensions for the right position ..
It would be great if someone could help because they belong to the boat and 2. I would like to use them to cool the two controllers.
Thank you, Holger says
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Hi Holger,
If the location is not shown on the drawings, you can always use photos to find the location. I found this one on the net which may assist you. Water Inlet is circled.
Charlie
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https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,51542.50.html (https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,51542.50.html)
Is that them in the drawing in the picture top of the page?
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This is what I let into the hull, they’re commercial aluminium inlets.
The centre of the block is 145mm from the stern and 38mm from the chine. They’ll have the oval grills added when I’Ve made some.
Cheers
Lance
(https://www.modelboatmayhemimages.co.uk/images/2018/12/27/232D1723-5134-428F-BFE3-B8CEA5B1880A.jpg)
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Hoi Charlie ..
the picture is awesome .. !!! because of the arrangement of the main engine sea water inlets .. but also the many other details .. - keels .. and so on ..
where did you find it in the net .. ??
I wish you and your family a happy new year ..
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yes Gingyer ..
that's exactly what I meant .. it's just the measure to see the keel. , the other measure is unfortunately no longer visible in the picture and that's what I was still looking for ..
I wish you and your family a happy new year ..
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thank you Lance ..
These are the dimensions that I was looking for .. !!!
I wish you and your family a happy new year ..
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it continues with your help ..
marked the line for the rudder and stern tube feedthrough and started to drill ..
I hope it is on the pictures to recognize that although the teaching with the stern tubes exactly in the middle of the keel was the left circle 5mm lings further lay .. I have therefore made a cardboard template and so drawn the line in the middle of the tunnel afterwards ..
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here are the pictures ..
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good Morning
I would soon like to install the shaft system .. now I have seen that the threaded piece is very short .. if I turn the ship's screw on it is no more space for a lock nut ..
How did you do it .. ?? a picture would be great ..
thanks in advance, Holger says
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Probably not what you want to hear, but I bought new shafts.
Lance
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Now I'm a bit further .. :-) The openings for the two stern tubes are drilled .. the holes for the lower water inlets marked .. the keel extension is glued and the adjustment to the keel is also grout and sanded .. unfortunately I only after the adhesive was already dried on a photo of the original seen the keel area between the trunk and the keel extension to the end is tapered and half round .. that cost me a lot of time because I have so bad with tool to change / grind I would have come .. if I had cut out the keel extension again, I would have better come to the grinding but it would have cost me even more time with the re-adjust and wait until the glue is dry again for it .. but I am satisfied with the result anyway. ,
the tailgate is also finished except for the upper side and I can start with the other fit into the trunk .. when the finished is still the recess for the four-part flaps on the back deck off ..
also the openings for the bow thruster are drilled ..
GOD THANKS to you the filling and especially the grinding slowly towards the end .. %) %)
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That looks like a pretty poor quality moulding to have supplied!! Lots of making good.
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The finished stern.
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Your work is always so precise Alan even if upside down :-)
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It's ok on my IPad :-))
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Oh yes Alan .. I'm more than happy when I'm done with the spatula and grind .. I'm sure 30/40 hours just swallow the grinding dust ..
Thank you for your great photo and I hope that I come even close to your nivau ..
have the luck to be in contact with a mechanic of the cromer station who helps me with questions about technology and details with pictures and antorten very ..
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Thanks :-))
Al
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Now I thought that I am almost finished with the spatula and grind and now that although I have seen the picture often I am the error between the kit hull and the original - the Kontuten in the red circle - so far not noticed .. but still better now than later when the model is almost done ..
So I stuck with thin wooden strips a small form to the tailgate and filled with my 2-component filler .. maybe this evening when it is dried it is sanded and then adjusted in the next days in the hull ..
but it is called "MODEL BUILDING" .. O0 O0 O0
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The picture Holger has shown is difficult to understand if you don the know the boat.
Here's a shot of the drop down tail gate completed.
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yes Alan .. and please excuse all others .. here is a picture of the original ..
around this area of the tailgate, it was ..
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a corner is almost finished .. it is the circled corner from the top picture
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I needed a break from the spatula and grind and there was soldered .. looks really funny .. but it should be so .. after screwing the parts, I can then adjust the opening for the tailgate exactly ..
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yesterday I could do something further .. the recess for the four-piece flap was recorded and then roughly cut .. in the pictures you both sides see .. the original recess and the current .. a lot of work .. !!! Adrian did not do such a good job .. was it in your kits synonymous ..? !!!
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Now I have both controllers - Turnigy Marine ESC 90A - programmed and if I plug them individually at the receiver you run .. because I want to run both motors s.einer receiver channel I have heaped on a regulator + cable and with a Y-cable with connected to the receiver .. now but only the engine runs with the three cables and where I pulled out the + cable beeps only as not yet programmed ..
what is not working .. ??
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Hi .. Now I'm going to fix the location of the electrics .. here's a first try .. but it will certainly be a second minor level to come and a small pump for the cooling water for the two controllers .. what do you think of mine arrangement. . ?? How did you do it . . ??
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Hi Taranis / Andy ..
on the first page at the bottom of your two pictures is a cooling water pump to see .. can you please send me data from the pump or send a link where you have the pump ago .. ??
thanks in advance, Holger says
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Hi Holger
These pumps change all the time on eBay as stock sells out. The ones I bought are advertised as 12 volts but run happily at much less like 5volts
Just search eBay for self priming micro pumps for a selection
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that is her ..
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MagiDeal-Durable-12-V-DC-350mA-Micro-Mini-Wasserpumpe-Tauch-5-45-1/123772557534?hash=item1cd16b58de:g:2fcAAOSwexlc4H86]https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MagiDeal-Durable-12-V-DC-350mA-Micro-Mini-Wasserpumpe-Tauch-5-45-1/123772557534?hash=item1cd16b58de:g:2fcAAOSwexlc4H86
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Yes but you should find for lower price
EDIT maybe not just now unfortunately but yes that is it :-))
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yes .. for £ 4,76
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last sunday it was finally time for me to do the jungvernfahrt .. here are a few pictures of it and a little video .. it's only very short because i had to drive and film .. i hope i will not be alone again next Sunday drive and someone to film is with ..
except for some water inside, I am very satisfied first ..
and it is a dream to drive this boat .. !!!!!!! :embarrassed: :embarrassed: :embarrassed:
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here are the pictures ..
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and here is the video ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mmpQcUMJ7Y&feature=youtu.be
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Lovely wake :-)
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2. test drive ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmrsEtJT86Y&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR1PTT66uDjiHgXADBVBwIlmdXKRyuQ2bhIMRyT-9uKCmmbguHfijXRunfc
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well ..
finally this year is almost over ..
It started with an illness at the beginning of the year and a necessary operation in the hospital .. after recovering, I went back to my job where I was very busy the whole year .. so I couldn't continue building at all .. thank god it was it was a bit quieter in autumn and I could FINALLY continue building again ..
but i used the recovery time and looked around the net for all sorts of information about the great role model .. and lo and behold ..
I found more than what I was looking for .. !!!!!!!!!
I discovered the following two sides ..
https://matterport.com/de/media/2518
https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=n8zEKKbKMaG
YOU ARE THE HAMMER .. !!!!!!!!!! :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
there you can look around virtually on and in the boat and even measure everything ..
I found some details that differ from the blueprint and that I now had to change again.
For example, I redesigned the four flaps over the Y.boat .. this time only from 2mm thick plexiglass and the two middle ones are narrower than the outer ones .. and this time also scaled down ..
and the front and rear support of the panels are now in a slight curve .. just like the curved deck shape ..
I also changed the hinges for the plates .. I soldered the two original holes closed .. and had small circles engraved in the hinges in an engraving shop .. that's five because each hinge is attached with five screws on the original .. and they are then countersunk by the thickness of the hinge so that only the round part stands over the plates .. so it is more true to the original and I like it much better that way ..
it's going on again ..
the squirrel eats idle .. :embarrassed: :embarrassed: :embarrassed:
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