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Title: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on December 26, 2007, 10:06:18 am
Happy Christmas to me, happy Christmas to me......She has arrived at last. My Lady T from MMM arrived Boxing Day (No holiday in Spain) and delighted I am with the quality of the hull. No chance of any work starting today but will keep you all posted once I get going. I will need mucho advise as I go along so standby to get mithered.

All the best to you all,

A very happy  Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 26, 2007, 11:01:21 am

Hoooray.  Very pleased for you, Barry.

Never has something been SO desired. We know how you feel.

Happy new Year to you and yours

Ken
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on December 26, 2007, 03:33:01 pm
Thanks Kenny and how right you are.

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on December 27, 2007, 04:54:50 pm
Got started today. First thing was to make a building cradle which I did using a quarter inch ply and some felt. Then I set about cutting holes in the hull. This I hope to finish in the morning before thinking about the running gear.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Tom Eccles on December 27, 2007, 06:37:32 pm
Congratulations Barry on your new arrival :)

I am not familiar with this kit, is it single prop?
What sort of motor do you intend installing?
Lastly (for now) what sort of dimensions has she?

Regards
Clegg
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on December 27, 2007, 07:12:42 pm
Hi Clegg.

Lady T is 34.5 inches in length. 9 inch beam and runs twin motors, both of which are MMM's 12 volt T4A's. Multi-poled - Hi Torque - Low Rev. I did consider just using one motor but Bryan at MMM recommended sticking to two for various reasons including cost.

Speak again soon,

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Tom Eccles on December 27, 2007, 07:28:19 pm
I am not quite sure i understood that bit Barry. Are the motors 2 for the price of less than 1?

I am sure there is a simple reason for it, I just cannot see it. A glance at my previous postings on any subject should be enough to convince you that I am remarkably stupid!

Best regards and best wishes for a successful build

Clegg
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: andywright on December 27, 2007, 10:24:26 pm
If he had single screw it would have meant a T12 I think, they are £42.00. Two T4 should run that boat well, I used to like the bosch motors Bryan sold, looking for a spare one to convert my Nangee to twin screw.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on December 28, 2007, 08:10:52 am
Andy. You are spot on. The T 12 is very expensive and as you say two T4's should do the job very well.

My fault Clegg. Didn't explain myself too well there...Too much Vino Tinto I think.

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on December 28, 2007, 05:37:23 pm
okay guys,
A couple of days in and I need some good advise from you experts out there. As you can see I now have the prop shafts and A frames in place and am beginning to think ahead to radio and other electrics needed for her. I want her to run on the two motors (both 12 volt T4's from MMM), with steam engine sound, ships whistle, smoke generator and working lihts. Given that I can have the lights working on a simple on off switch, can you lot give me some advise on the following please.
1. Which 4 channel radio (Given the budget aint high) ? and if anyone has a spare one going cheap let me know.
2. How best to control the motors, be it independently or seperately and if so what kit I should buy? and from whom? I believe you can buy a mixer that operates the motors in unison with the single rudder but I have no knowledge of this.
3. Which sound generators to go for ? and which smoke generator and from where?

I think that will do for now and I think I should get this kit sooner rather than later so I can plan and install it all before the major construction work starts. (Correct me if I am wrong).

Sorry about all this. It sounds alot all at once but I don't want to get it wrong at this early stage.

Thanks fellas, in anticipation.....

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Stavros on December 28, 2007, 06:12:37 pm
Right don't panic Mr Mannering help is at hand 

1  Regarding Radio gear I wold highly reccomend Futaba you should be able to pick up a 4or 6 channel set on ebay for under £100
2  As regards your motor set up you can go a couple of ways,one is to contact Action(FLJ on here)very nice man he is as well who will  sell you a pair of speed controllers and a motor mixer,or you can but Mtronics or electronise speed controllers and get mixer off Ebay from captbarry(got 2 of his and they are spot on)Either of these set ups will enable you to control the 2 motors from a single stick on your tranny and also it will allow you to turn th ship round on the spot as a mixer will speed up one motor going fwd and the other motor will work in reverse,thus allowing it to turn around.
3  Hang fire on both the sound genny and smoke system at the moment as Both Action and pakirk on this forum are both developing units time will tell.Unfortunately JJC seem to be no more and they were the market leader so to speak,Graupener do a 6and 12v smoke genny but it works on oil and apparently is v messy,cant comment haven't got one.

Stavros
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on December 28, 2007, 06:23:56 pm
Right don't panic Mr Mannerign help is at hand 

1  Regarding Radio gear I wold highly reccomend Futaba you should be able to pick up a 4or 6 channel set on ebay for under £100
2  As regards your motor set up you can go a couple of ways,one is to contact Action(FLJ on here)very nice man he is as well who will  sell you a pair of speed controllers and a motor mixer,or you can but Mtronics or electronise speed controllers and get mixer off Ebay from captbarry(got 2 of his and they are spot on)Either of these set ups will enable you to control the 2 motors from a single stick on your tranny and also it will allow you to turn th ship round on the spot as a mixer will speed up one motor going fwd and the other motor will work in reverse,thus allowing it to turn around.
3  Hang fire on both the sound genny and smoke system at the moment as Both Action and pakirk on this forum are both developing units time will tell.Unfortunately JJC seem to be no more and they were the market leader so to speak,Graupener do a 6and 12v smoke genny but it works on oil and apparently is v messy,cant comment haven't got one.

Stavros
Stavros,
Many thanks.
 I like the idea of one stick control and will happily hang fire on the sound and smoke as all together I have found it becomes very expensive. I have a Graupner 6volt smoker in my Talacre and yes it is messy and down here the oil is not easy to get hold off, plus it was very difficult to install.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Tom Eccles on December 28, 2007, 07:49:32 pm
Hi Footski,

Although a huge fan of ACTion (Dave is VERY patient with a fool like me) and I am fitting out my Cruiser with all ACTion electrics (check out the distribution board!) I also have a Yorkshireman which was my first build. The Yorkie is fitted with twin Viper E.S.Cs and a viper mixer all controlled from a 2 channel Tx.
My Cruiser has many more bells and whistles, all of which are run from a 4 channel Futaba. ACTion supply some very nice switcher units which will allow you to do all sorts of things.

Good luck

Clegg
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on December 30, 2007, 04:14:06 pm
Thanks Clegg,

Okay got a bit more done. I have now mounted both motors as seen in the photos. I used a Spanish equivelant of a P38 compound which has worked well. That, with the rubber band configuration holds both motors in place. a test of the motors shows all to be well at this stage.

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: footskijunior on December 30, 2007, 05:12:50 pm
Hello CPO Footski,
Doesn't look like a bad start for the Lady T, nice form on her hull, should handle well. I'd still go for indpendent prop controls though, as she would have has them originally on her brass telegraphs!

Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on December 30, 2007, 06:36:10 pm
Thanks Junior.....Keep an eye on the thread as more will follow

Senior
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on January 02, 2008, 10:51:19 am
Deck supprts being epoxied into place.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on January 09, 2008, 04:21:02 pm
Right chaps,

Sorry not much has happened lately but I have only today recieved the Template Pack from MMM. I am now hoping to make some real progress and wil keep you posted.

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on January 09, 2008, 04:24:18 pm
Stavros,

I took your advise and have ordered a FUTABA 4EX-FM STICK RADIO 40MHz 4-CHANNEL with SERVOS X3. Should be here any day I hope.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Manxman on January 10, 2008, 06:59:32 pm
Hi Barry,

I agree with Stavros, Give Action a ring or email, if you can wait a couple of months Dave (of Action) can go better than sell you 2 ESCs - he's bringing out a duel version complete with a mixer all in one little box and cheaper than buying separate.


Cheers - Ken
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on January 10, 2008, 07:59:46 pm
Thanks Ken,

Got to give a little secret away...but I trust your discretion. ...

I was aware of Action new piece of magic and will indeed be waiting for it to come out......Don't tell anyone though!!!!!

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on January 11, 2008, 03:09:55 pm
Right I have just finished work on her for the day. Fingers are sore now as I opted to line the bulwarks with car body filler. Bloody hell it takes some sanding down and I think another coat will be needed too...
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on January 12, 2008, 05:35:59 pm
Finally finished sanding the bulwarks......but have got myself in a spot of bother. SWMBO was not pleased  >>:-( >>to find I had borrowed the cereal packets in order to cut the deck template, which is needed for exact positioning of deck supports.

I really feel I am making progress now and enjoying every minute of it.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on January 13, 2008, 03:23:34 pm
A few more photos of progress made. Deck supports are now fitted and I have cut out the ply decking which was very different from the template so I do advise anyone building an MMM model with the templates to use the cereal box first as a good guide.

I have also started the rudder assembly.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on January 13, 2008, 03:53:43 pm
 
Nice and smooth surface for the Bulwarks, Barry. A lot of work there ? Well done

Ken

Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on January 13, 2008, 06:58:13 pm
Thanks Ken. It was hard work
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on January 14, 2008, 04:18:56 pm
Okay the rudder has been made but I made a mess of lining the rudder post up correctly so have redone it and am now waiting for the thing to dry, before I can install the rudder properly, which I want to do soon as I today received my new Futaba 4EX radio system and want to have a play with that.

More soon.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: james_biscuit on January 16, 2008, 02:49:04 pm
Hiya barry how did you go about drilling the brass shaft for the rudder pins to go through?

Cheers. James.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on January 16, 2008, 03:10:04 pm
Hiya barry how did you go about drilling the brass shaft for the rudder pins to go through?

Cheers. James.
James,

I have a Dremel drill stand and good drill with a good bit. I secured the brass bar securely and through the hole went. You will struggle without a drill stand I think.

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: james_biscuit on January 16, 2008, 05:21:29 pm
you think right lol {-) thanks for your help

Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on January 17, 2008, 05:40:38 pm
Having built the rudder, the servo and connection was a problem. I struggled all day, until the guys off the Forum came to my rescue. A special thanks to Len whose idea worked a treat and given my lack of suppliers around here I am delighted. The servo works perfectly with no obvious stresses. So onto the next bit......
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Tom Eccles on January 17, 2008, 07:41:18 pm
Hi Barry,

Yes, that looks a neat solution. Just a thought- I am not familiar with the deck furniture on this model, are you intending to have some sort of access to servo and rudder post?

Its looking good, keep up the good work,

Regards
Tom
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on January 17, 2008, 07:57:58 pm
Oh yes Tom. Access on this boat is good. All important items are well covered, hence the exact locating of the servo.

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on January 19, 2008, 03:20:45 pm
Next bit started. Painted bulwarks, secured foredeck base and started coamings for deckhouse.

The cereal packet templates are a great idea but running out of them quickly....
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: footskijunior on January 19, 2008, 04:51:14 pm
Looking good capt footski.
I'm back off at the end of the month methinks, time to go play on real ships!

Will keep looking at your blog when I get chance.

Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Stavros on January 19, 2008, 06:52:27 pm
Simple my friend EAT more cerial


Stavros
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: OMK on January 19, 2008, 07:22:24 pm
Very nice work, Mr. Footski. She's almost as good looking as the lady in Footskijunior's avatar photo.
So how come he gets the good-looking chicks? His profile says he's only 10 (heheheheeee!)
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on January 19, 2008, 07:33:58 pm
That is my lovely daughter in law Steph. Not into boats I'm afraid. As for Junior...It must be the beard that does it!!
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: OMK on January 20, 2008, 03:00:33 am
The beard? In that case my Gillette Blue II's shall no longer see the light of day. Man, she's a cracker. No wonder Junior looks so happy.
Mate, that ship you're building there. Looks really nice. You caught me on the hop. I'm  predominantly a sort of Sea Queen / Huntsman / cabin cruiser sort of dude.

Who's the babbie on your lap, bro'? One of Footskijunior's off-springs?
No wonder you look so happy.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on January 20, 2008, 08:23:52 am
The beard? In that case my Gillette Blue II's shall no longer see the light of day. Man, she's a cracker. No wonder Junior looks so happy.
Mate, that ship you're building there. Looks really nice. You caught me on the hop. I'm  predominantly a sort of Sea Queen / Huntsman / cabin cruiser sort of dude.

Who's the babbie on your lap, bro'? One of Footskijunior's off-springs?
No wonder you look so happy.

PMK,
Hope Steph doesn't read this. It will go to her head!!

The Little one is our grandson William. The best gift Steph could have given us. Only problem is they live in Blighty and we are down here in the sun. Have to use MSN alot to say hello.

Any way if you are into the cabin cruisers you want to give a good Tuga go. Great fun to build and I am never short of advise from the guys on the Forum.

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: footskijunior on January 20, 2008, 12:10:49 pm
Steph did read that, she's wondering around the house witha big smile on her face!!

Anyway, I thought this site was about boats, not my married life!!

No more piccies Dad??

M
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Dave Buckingham on January 20, 2008, 01:45:46 pm
Hi Mark
To Late I will put your father through a full interrogation when I meet him in Estapona on the 24th feb
Dave
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: OMK on January 20, 2008, 03:25:28 pm
Yeah, my heart bleeds for you. I mean, here in Blighty we got rain, rain, gloom and doom, more rain, blah - while you have to suffer all that sunshine down there. Life can be cruel, eh?
Grandson Billy is a fine sprog. You're a lucky bloke.
You know, you could be on to something. Until now I wouldn't have even considered building anything but cruisers. I'm looking at all the photos of yours and suddenly all the preconceptions are going out the window. I'm pretty taken with what you're doing there. Looks really nice. I can almost FEEL the fun factor in building one of those, and I'm more than tempted in giving it a whirl. Although, I know absolutely diddly about tugs. But at least I know who to call on should I need some sound advice, right?

Enjoy your build, Mr. Footski. And thanks for the great pictures.

Oh, one last Q.......
How did you come by your handle?


PMK'ski.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on January 20, 2008, 04:47:46 pm
PMK,
Get one built.....Great fun. Lady T is my first Tug, but as you say there are plenty of experts on the forum to help out.

The name Footski goes back over 20 years when there were a bunch of us fellas sat in a van talking rubbish when politics came into the conversation. I happened to say something about Communism being a good system on paper and the boss immediately called me a Soviat sympathiser and the name stuck.

Dave,

Looking forward to Estepona on the 24th.

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: footskijunior on January 20, 2008, 05:21:23 pm
For a fee i can reveal some of dads OTHER names!!!!!!

M
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on January 20, 2008, 06:43:51 pm
For a fee i can reveal some of dads OTHER names!!!!!!

M


Dad ......Dad......Don't know who this imposter is. No son of mine would be so cheap........Come on lads send him to Coventry........On second thoughts the Caribbean is further!!!Enjoy your 3 months Junior ha ha.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on January 20, 2008, 06:51:31 pm
Okay back to serious business now. Today I have finished the main coamings and carefully cut  out from 1/16 ply, and screwed down the main deck house base. The frames are under construction. Rear bulhead for the rope cradle is also installed.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Tom Eccles on January 20, 2008, 07:03:30 pm
Looking good Barry,

I see now what you meant about access to the rudder servo.

Keep it going,


Tom
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: footskijunior on January 20, 2008, 07:23:16 pm
Looks good Dad. Was looking at the pics of Talacre too, looks well in the water.

Also looked on the web at the finished Lady T, will be a very nice model when complete, will have to nip over and give it a sail time permitting.

You making it new or weathered???

Mark.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: footskijunior on January 20, 2008, 07:24:28 pm
Just a concern....

the rudder servo, will it not strike the deck when turned? or is it just the angle of the picture?
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on January 20, 2008, 07:30:08 pm
Junior,

Must be the angle. All tested and works fine.

You are welcome to pop over and sail her anytime.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on January 22, 2008, 06:00:20 pm
Right, I have now made the base for the superstructure and temporarily screwed  it to the deck so I could make and add the frames. A fiddly job but beginning to come together a little now.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: footskijunior on January 26, 2008, 08:40:05 am
Looking good footski!  O0

Will be off within the week I think.

She should be finished by the time I get back??

M
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on January 26, 2008, 12:34:52 pm
You never know Junior. Any way on with the job..

The deckhouse is really underway now with the addition of much of the engine room. It is all made from 1/16th inch ply.

The 2nd photo shows the main 12 volt battery in place under the superstructure. It may cause me a problem later as the funnel is directly above it and I want to add a smoke unit. Any ideas on this would be most welcome!.

The 3rd photo shows the use of anything and everything to hold bits in place to dry.

Until later,

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on January 26, 2008, 12:37:57 pm
Question Guys......

What type of filler is best to be used on finishing of the superstructure. I mean where joints and angles are not quite perfect and need a little filling prior to painting. I  am afraid that the stuff I have will crack out over time and use.

Cheers,

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: gingyer on January 26, 2008, 10:48:17 pm
for your battery problem lay the battery on its side,
then build a frame above to sit the smoke unit on.
this means you lift the smoke unit off to access
the battery and keeps the weight low in the hull

Colin
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Stavros on January 26, 2008, 11:00:21 pm
Barry what I use is a product called Easy  light but where you live it could be a problem to obtain,so how about if I sent some out to you cost of Easy light is around £8 but I would have to find out how much postage is


Stavros
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: DickyD on January 26, 2008, 11:21:32 pm
Ronseal do a 2 part wood filler for rotten wood which is very similar to P38 car body filler which would be ideal as it sands down nicely and can be painted as you would the ply.

Its called Ronseal High Performance Wood Filler and is excellent stuff.

http://www.ronseal.co.uk/products/product.jsp?id=51

Mind you, don't know if you can get it out there. O0
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on January 27, 2008, 08:31:08 am
Thanks for the tips guys. I will keep you posted.

A grateful Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on January 27, 2008, 08:10:56 pm

Hi Barry

I'm lying my batteries down flat to sort of spread the load low down as well.

Have you tried the float test in a bath yet? This would give you a guide to how much weight you will need to add (if any). You could then go my route of several smaller batteries laid end to end. This way you will have the height for extra units above them. I have found out that two lesser amp hour batteries weigh less than the equivalent large one. Hope this helps

Good question about cracking filler. Does anyone know if P38 cracks ?


Ken.

Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on January 27, 2008, 09:09:49 pm

Hi Barry

I'm lying my batteries down flat to sort of spread the load low down as well.

Have you tried the float test in a bath yet? This would give you a guide to how much weight you will need to add (if any). You could then go my route of several smaller batteries laid end to end. This way you will have the height for extra units above them. I have found out that two lesser amp hour batteries weigh less than the equivalent large one. Hope this helps

Good question about cracking filler. Does anyone know if P38 cracks ?


Ken.


Ken,

Not quite ready for the bath test yet, but should be in the next week so will post the result.

Barry

PS. No idea about P38 cracking but the Spanish equivalent does not crack when applied in a decent thickness. No idea on very thin applications though.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on February 02, 2008, 02:37:14 pm
Progress is being made. I have started painting the superstructure and have suppressed both motors, (Thanks to the advise from the forum as I could not get the solder to stick. Cleaning and a little flux did the job a treat. Also recieved FLJ's P92 distribution board and installed it on a seperate board mounted above the main battery. I now need to sort out charging points which will be easily accessable and put a fuse between the board and main battery. Can't think of anything else but all advise is welcome.

Pictures of the superstructure should follow in the next few days.

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: footskijunior on February 02, 2008, 08:20:17 pm
looking good so far Footie,

will try to get on whenever I can, will email when I get settled.

have fun,

keep in touch with the tribe!!

Mark.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Tom Eccles on February 02, 2008, 08:41:29 pm
Hi Footski,

Good to see the build coming along.

I have recently fitted my S92 into my Cruiser, Of course I bow to the superior knowledge of our own FLJ but do you really need a fuse between the battery and the distribution board? When I checked mine earlier this evening it had fuses fitted.

The only rider I would add to the above is I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ELECTRICS!!!!!

Cheers
Clegg
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on February 02, 2008, 08:52:06 pm
Hi Footski,

Good to see the build coming along.

I have recently fitted my S92 into my Cruiser, Of course I bow to the superior knowledge of our own FLJ but do you really need a fuse between the battery and the distribution board? When I checked mine earlier this evening it had fuses fitted.

The only rider I would add to the above is I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ELECTRICS!!!!!

Cheers
Clegg

Spotted the deliberate mistake Cleggy. No need at all. Anyway got it installed together with a switching unit and steam whistle. All works well. I must say I am impressed by that P92. It certainly makes life easier, especially for us what is knowledge Challenged!!!! :-\

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on February 03, 2008, 01:34:38 pm
Okay the first photo shows the full installation of the Distribution board, switch and steam whistle unit. All working well although I think some adjustment on the whistle will be needed when the speaker in finally put in.

Second photo shows the main superstructure after 2 coats of paint.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on February 03, 2008, 01:37:39 pm
Call This a Bath Test?? ::) ::) ::)

Couldn't be bothered filling the bath!!

She rides very high even with the big 12 volt battery in but there is much to do and I can always ballast later with some lead shot. She floats without list, so the battery position has been marked and ribs put in to keep it in place.

More next week.

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Stavros on February 03, 2008, 09:02:40 pm
Topic split All electrics about p whatever have been moved to Electrics under the heading P92/94 whatever!!!!!Can we please leave Footski to get on with his build thread cheers

Stavros
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 04, 2008, 11:20:32 am

ooooh !!  I do like your bath. What a view. When can I come over ???

Judging by my,  'now',  experience of floating objects, I would say you need quite a bit of weight to set her to the mark.  Have to tried pushing her downwards to see the forces involved. I reckon mine would take the weight of my Dog.   {-)


PS.. My first mistake was adding the extra batteries on the deck, and suddenly she tipped sideways.  Didn't need to call for the 'Waders' this time, so no damage done.  ;D ;D

Ken

Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on February 04, 2008, 12:21:24 pm
Kenny,

Just give me a bell when you get off the plane at Malaga!! :D

I reckon it will take 3 or 4 more kilos to settle it down but will have a better idea as the build progresses. At least she floats level on the right plane.

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on February 05, 2008, 08:09:05 pm
Today I started putting the portlights in on the engine room and main housing. Went to get the camera and was struck by just what a mess the workroom is. Is everybodys this bad?

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 05, 2008, 08:33:32 pm

That's the way it should be.   8)

Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: DickyD on February 05, 2008, 08:57:34 pm
Thats tidy, you should see mjne  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barriew on February 06, 2008, 08:57:36 am
Barry,

Are you sure you have the portholes the correct way round? I think they go the other way so they are flush to the sides, at least on the main deck housing.

Barrie
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on February 06, 2008, 12:23:38 pm
Barry,

Are you sure you have the portholes the correct way round? I think they go the other way so they are flush to the sides, at least on the main deck housing.

Barrie
Thanks for that Barriew.

I will have a look at that later.

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Captain Povey on February 06, 2008, 12:43:16 pm
Hi Barry, Well it looks ok to me as I can hardly get in my work room let alone find a bit of bench to work on. Cheers Graham.  O0
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: DickyD on February 06, 2008, 01:10:43 pm
Was wondering that myself. Didn't ask didn't want to look silly if wrong.

Just looked on MMM website and on one of the photos they are very clear Barry. You have put them in the wrong way round I'm afraid. :'(
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on February 06, 2008, 03:15:14 pm
Was wondering that myself. Didn't ask didn't want to look silly if wrong.

Just looked on MMM website and on one of the photos they are very clear Barry. You have put them in the wrong way round I'm afraid. :'(

Thanks Richard. We all have to learn and I can't think of a better site to do so. Not a problem. They are not fixed.

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barriew on February 06, 2008, 03:33:08 pm
Barry

I only spotted it because I wasn't sure when I was building my Rosegarth.

Barrie
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on February 06, 2008, 04:05:30 pm
Barrie

She look sgreat and thanks agian. Saved me from a serious error there.

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on February 11, 2008, 07:46:52 pm
Portholes in the wrong way >>:-( >>:-(

Very true. Two days kicking my self :embarrassed: :embarrassed:

Holes were drilled too big so have redone superstructure "walls".. :'( :'(

I promise to get it right next time so watch this space.....Oh and don't tell anyone will you :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 12, 2008, 11:21:19 am

Your secret is safe with us.   8)

I wonder how many people get other things the wrong way around. I know I do, not knowing the nautical side of things is a steep learning curve at this time of life.

If it looks good, then it must be allright.   O0

ken

Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on February 14, 2008, 12:18:57 pm
 I have now redone the superstructure but have not had the courage to cut the holes yet for the portholes. Got on with other things instead.
Rear companionway is almost complete, just need to get some frames for the window protectors. (Not too sure about this yet). :-\

Have put handrails around the engine room, using bits and pieces I had lying around. The staunchions were made from hammock netting frames taken from an old Corel kit. ;D

The third photo shows the various parts of the water tank, made before final assembly. TWO QUESTIONS: I assume that the water pipe feeding the engine room would have been lagged, even in the early 20th century. How do I do it? and What should I use? :-\ :-\



Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 14, 2008, 04:00:30 pm

Have you considered a small length of bandage?. You could maybe stain it with tea.

Ken

Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on February 14, 2008, 04:43:59 pm

Have you considered a small length of bandage?. You could maybe stain it with tea.

Ken


I like the idea. I have done similar staining on sails of period ships. I think I will give it a go. Cheers Ken.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on February 16, 2008, 11:12:35 am
I have now finished the water tank and installed it on the model. I used a coarse grade of rigging cord to lag the pipe in and simply varnished it with matt varnish. Hope it looks okay? :-\

Made the Exhaust pipe from differing sizes of brass tube, filled with P38 and drilled to take the two ends. A copper strap was added as a fixing point to the bulwark.

The rear companionway ports have now been finished using brass rod, filed to a square as a frame and the wire added to finish.

Time to move onto those dreaded portholes.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 16, 2008, 05:10:10 pm

Just the job.   O0

Looking great detail

ken

Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on February 21, 2008, 02:24:01 pm
I now think that I have got those portholes in the right way  :D :D. I don't mind saying they drove me dafter than usual. Also I have put on the handrails using some old brass rod I had lying around and installed the supports for the large Towbow. I have made up the main wooden doors, planking them with Lime (better sounding than Basswood)and staining them.
The two unfinished doors shown in photo two are steel doors, so have a little to do with them yet.

Damn but this is good fun ;)
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on February 24, 2008, 01:29:41 pm
The last bit of work for a few days has been done as SWMBO is taking me to Seville for a few days tomorrow,on the new high speed train. (Really going to look at a model shop there but don't tell her).

Anyway first photo shows the towing assembly completed before painting and the third shows it in place having been painted. Middle photo shows some of the doors finished and in position.

Thats it ...No more till the end of the week,

Adios for now amigos.

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on March 12, 2008, 01:08:56 pm
Hello all. Back again after a short time.

Progress made includes the bridge and funnel

Firstly I cut out the parts for the bridge using 0.8mm ply and then planked it in 3mm walnut planks, glazing with plastic from a Christmas cracker box. This took some time as care was important to get evenly sized planks. I started to put the whole thing together but got interupted by the cat, who likes to pop in and keep an eye on me from time to time.

Anyway got the structure together and made up a bench, including tea mug made from brass rod. Much more to do on it but am looking for some brass strip of between 2 and 3 mm wide to make the slides for the doors.

The funnel comes next and posed quite a problem. I could buy a kit for it for 15 quid plus postage but was determined to have a go myself. Happened to have some plumbers plastic pipe of the right diameter and so I cut it to length and used a combination of thin tape and pva wood glue to imitate the plating and rivets. It is coming along and I am reasonably pleased. Have to finish it and paint it up before I decide whether to keep it or not. Watch this space.

Until next time,

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: DickyD on March 12, 2008, 01:40:59 pm
Hi Barry Deans Marine do 6mm wide brass strip 0.8mm, 0.6mm and 0.4mm thick if its any help  O0

http://deansmarine.co.uk/shop/index.php/cPath/51/sort/3a/page/1

Deans new web site is worth looking at.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on March 12, 2008, 01:56:01 pm
Thanks Richard but I have 6 mm brass but not the means to cut it.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barriew on March 12, 2008, 02:50:17 pm
Barry,

Have you tried painting the plastic pipe? Some of that type of pipe doesn't like taking paint. I usually give it good rub down with fine paper. This helps, but there is still some that the paint won't stick to.

Barrie
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on March 12, 2008, 03:08:23 pm
Barry,

Have you tried painting the plastic pipe? Some of that type of pipe doesn't like taking paint. I usually give it good rub down with fine paper. This helps, but there is still some that the paint won't stick to.

Barrie
Yes Barrie,

I rubbed it down well first and have now given it a good coat of Humbroll matt white as an undercoat. That has stuck well. Top coat of matt black now and and all fine at the moment.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Proteus on March 12, 2008, 04:54:26 pm
Looking good Barry. I use a razor saw blade to cut most small brass bits as it gives a square cut and edge, the blades last a long time , I use the same one for wood.

Fredy
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on March 12, 2008, 05:43:55 pm
Looking good Barry. I use a razor saw blade to cut most small brass bits as it gives a square cut and edge, the blades last a long time , I use the same one for wood.

Fredy
[/quoteFredy,
Unfortunately the brass I want to cut is about 20 cm long and I want to cut it length ways. I suppose a circular saw might do it but it seems an expensive way to go about it.

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: tigertiger on March 13, 2008, 12:26:48 am
You could try to find a local engineering shop with on of those big mechanical hacksaws. Or some other means of cutting heavy guage metal.

Just a thought.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on March 22, 2008, 10:24:12 am
Okay well I sorted out the brass cutting. I got a friend to do it with some fancy snips...The bridge house and funnel are now nearing completetion, but not too happy with the brasswork on the housing. Having said that I have been spoiled by HS93's incredible standard...
I finished the funnel off using brass rod for the ladders and brass tubing for the steam pipe and whistle. Barriew, as you can see the paint stayed where it was meant to. Still have a bit to do with the bridge housing as I want to put two working lights inside, which have been made but I need to run the wiring, hiding it from view or disguising it as best I can, before bringing it out underneath the housing ready for connection.

I really am enjoying this bit of the build,
Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 22, 2008, 11:50:07 am

That's really nice, Barry. She's looking good.

The topping out section is obviously bringing you pleasure. It's great, working on this section, isn't it ?  (something to show SWMBO for all the efforts, and to be proud of)

All the best

ken
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: footskijunior on March 27, 2008, 05:09:18 pm
Looking very nice from over here in Grenada!!!

Portholes open from the inside..... everything secure on inside.



keep it up!

Mark.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Voyager on March 28, 2008, 03:04:42 pm
What a fantastic build you're doing, keep up the good work  O0

Voyager
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on March 28, 2008, 03:10:38 pm
Thanks for that Voyager.

Hope to post a couple more pics over the weekend.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on March 29, 2008, 04:16:38 pm
I have now finished the funnell off but not secured it to the model yet as it may get in the way while I am running electrics. More added to the bridge area, steps and railings. Steps made from walnut planks and rails made from thin brass tubing and even thinner brass rod. The rails around the ladder ways was done using lime, cut to size and superglued in place.

I have added a wall light to the cabin and a handlight on the desk, both working wirh LED's.

Also managed to finish off the telegraph (Many thanks to BUNKERBARGE for his photos), and install the portside navigation light. This was very fiddly and involved running the wiring behind a small bulhead to keep it out of sight.

Getting there now!! :D
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on April 06, 2008, 06:31:15 pm
A little more progress.

Flying bridge now under construction using 3 mm by .5 mm walnutt planks and the lifebelts made from Artesania Latina fittings. I removed the awful rope and replaced them with proper stuff.....Not too far off sea trials......Better think about painting the hull...

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: tugmad on April 06, 2008, 06:35:52 pm
Hi footski    funny to chat on another site,  but if you are going to keep the funnell black and red try it out at 1/4..1/4..1/2  black,red ,black from the top down and it may look more balanced, sorry mate just pocking my nose in.

George  aka model tugman.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on April 06, 2008, 08:37:53 pm
Hi footski    funny to chat on another site,  but if you are going to keep the funnell black and red try it out at 1/4..1/4..1/2  black,red ,black from the top down and it may look more balanced, sorry mate just pocking my nose in.

George  aka model tugman.

Never thought of that as I was following the plan, but now you mention it.......Will have a look at that......You keep poking your nose in or I will never learn and get better..
Cheers,

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on April 12, 2008, 04:31:18 pm
More photos of the bridge area which is almost complete (apart from 2 more telegraphs), together with a couple of shots of the main mast.

I had a problem running the wires for the lighting so have cut out the back of the mast to run the cables and I have made the aerial rack from brass to give it more strength to take the cables which will be disguised along the rack to the other mast and from there down into the hull somehow...

I am looking forward to the weathering of her, albeit with a little trepidation....Now did I say something about painting the hull and maybe altering the funnels colour scheme.......Just not got the time at the moment...Enjoying myself too much...
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: OMK on April 12, 2008, 05:11:40 pm
Looking better all the time, comrad Footskivitch -- almost as eye catching as Mrs. Footski herself.

By the by, I've got loads of wire - ideal for internal electrics - if any use to you.


Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on April 12, 2008, 06:03:14 pm
PMK,

Cheers amigo, Just don't tell the wife or it will go to her head!!!

Thanks for the offer but I have plenty of wiring. That is one thing we can get over here.

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on April 12, 2008, 06:04:52 pm
Looking better all the time, comrad Footskivitch -- almost as eye catching as Mrs. Footski herself.

By the by, I've got loads of wire - ideal for internal electrics - if any use to you.




Just had a thought.....How do you know what Mrs Footski looks like??? ???
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: OMK on April 12, 2008, 06:28:04 pm
>>Just had a thought.....How do you know what Mrs Footski looks like???

She's standing next to you in your avatar photo on the tugboat forum.
I think she's the reason you always look so happy.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on April 12, 2008, 06:30:53 pm
I think she's the reason you always look so happy.

PMK,
You could be right....She really does look after me bless her...
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Captain Povey on April 12, 2008, 11:01:34 pm
Hi Footski, She is looking great, Just a quick question. Who is the crewman and where did you get him? Is he a George turner special? OK thats 2 questions but I have had a beer or two. Cheers Graham
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on April 13, 2008, 08:15:51 am
Hi Footski, She is looking great, Just a quick question. Who is the crewman and where did you get him? Is he a George turner special? OK thats 2 questions but I have had a beer or two. Cheers Graham

Graham,

The crewman is a rather pale looking skipper!!!!! ::)

You are right though he is a George Turner product, ordered direct from them. Very good quality.

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 13, 2008, 11:31:15 am

Looking good Barry.  I'd admire craft in timber. Very realistic.   O0

Ken
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on April 19, 2008, 09:34:10 am
No more photos as I have been fiddling with the electrics this week. Finally got the smoke unit installed thanks to Stavros, speaker and steam whistle all installed.

That is it though for a while as Mrs Footski is taking me up to the cold north of Galicia for a well earned weeks break. Hasta Lluego mis amigos.

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on May 06, 2008, 04:27:09 pm
A little more progress this week although it is a little slow. I have put in the ribs on the port bulwark, prior to final painting and fitting of the handail. Also started planking the foredeck overlay, using lime planks of .3mm by 5mm.

Earlier in the week I finished the 2 masts, complete with lights and some of the rigging. Unfortunately I blew the stern light by connecting it to a battery without the resistor........A steep learning curve, but enjoying every moment of it. The worst part is waiting for glue or paint to dry...More when the rail and planking are finished..

Barry

Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on May 10, 2008, 04:48:18 pm
Just a quick update as the foredeck has now been finished and glued into place. I finished it with a coat of matt varnish before sanding, followed by another coat after sanding and a final coat before a very fine sanding. This gives a smooth finish and flattens the "caulking" down well.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on May 14, 2008, 08:45:33 am
I have now attached the handrail to the hull, using lime planks, plenty of water and clamps. The rear decking has been installed after planking with lime strip and cord. Also made the Rope Crate, which is removeable allowing access to the rudder post. I should be geting on with the hull painting before long.

Whilst on this subject I am a little confused. I was going to spray the hull but in 1890, I would think that hulls were painted by brush, so I have decided to give that way a try. I was thinking of using a fan type brush to reduce the number of visible brush lines...Watch this space..

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Voyager on May 14, 2008, 09:04:56 am
DON'T DO IT FOOTSKI!!! It would be a shame if you brushed the paint on after all that hard work you've done  >>:-( The way I see it, the brush strokes would be out of scale using a regular size brush! Honestly I'm not going mad here lol!!! It would be like me painting my house with a broom  ???
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 14, 2008, 11:01:04 am

I agree with Voyager. Such a lovely piece of work needs a good finish.

You can always experiment after with temporary 'Ageing' afterwards, and clean it off it doesn't look right. Once the brush has struck, the surface will never be recoverable. I hand tarted up my Red pelican and have always regretted it.

Have a cool drink in the sun and 'mull it over'   8)

Cheers...ken

Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on May 14, 2008, 11:14:32 am
Okay guys, you win.....I will bow to your knowledge and experience...

What a great site.  Without it I would have made untold errors. With it I seem to have a half decent build on the go.

Thanks Very Much
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Tom Eccles on May 15, 2008, 07:46:23 pm
Hey Barry,

I have been keeping an eye on your build---WOW!---She looks great!

Now then, sorry to break into your build thread but I think this is relevent.

SWMBO and her idiot husband (me) wil be in Benalmadena for a couple of weeks at the end of September. If it is of any help I will be happy to bring a few bits over with me.
P.M. me nearer the time when we can arrange things.

With any luck I will be able to see the lady on the water.

Cheers
Tom
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on May 16, 2008, 12:00:22 am
Tom,

Most obliging of you....Even if I need nothing it would be good to get together and talk boats....

We will speak nearer the time.

A good place Benalmadena. SWMBO and I go regularly to the harbour for days out.

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on May 16, 2008, 03:26:11 pm
THE PAINTING BEGINS....

After much debate between brushing, aerosol cans or airbrush, I finally got this rather nerve racking part started. Dismissed the idea of hand painting, thanks to Voyager and Tug Kenny. Had loads of trouble trying to get an airbrush and the one I did find was no better than a kids toy costing over 30 euros, so I obtained some aerosols, primer, gloss red and matt black. (May have to drop hints for an airbrush from the UK at Xmas)

Hull prepared and sprayed with three coats of primer as per Stavros's instructions.......Now the patient bit, waiting a day or so for it to dry properly before moving onto the second stage....
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 16, 2008, 07:33:02 pm

Now that does look good.

I'll bet your a happy chappie.  O0 O0

Ken
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: footskijunior on May 19, 2008, 06:52:01 am
Hola,

Looking very nice Dad, agree with the non-brush painting of the hull, however the Garnock had a good finish?

Just a thought - may be out of depth here, but is there any anodes on the plan? Not sure if they even had them in 1890.... Never mind, its very early and William has had me up since 5am!!


Keep it up,

Junior
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on May 19, 2008, 07:25:43 pm
Having followed the advice of Stavros, I now have the hull colour on and drying nicely.....Six coats of red, but I have a finish that  am quite pleased with.

Whilst waiting for the paint to dry and having cut all the holes in the box for Actions P94, I decided to make the anchor davit. Fairly easy to do using thick brass rod and making up the single blocks. The hook was made from thin brass rod. When painted it doesn't look half bad.

Also got on with the 4 sets of bollards, made from 6 mm wide brass strip and brass tubing topped with clear plastic discs that were originally port hole windows from an old kit model. Having run out of brass tube, I substituted aluminium tube of the same size. Should be fine when painted and they are not load bearing.

Junior.........No no anodes on this one...
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on May 22, 2008, 10:41:11 am
Next to do was the black on the upper hull. I masked everything off using anything that was available......Swmbo not too impressed at another ruined sheet though...Three coats of paint applied and the masking removed within a few minutes. Then came the scary part.....Washed my hands and using Stavros's technique, rubbed a finger along the masking line.....It worked!! {-). Flattened the edge down a treat. The photo does not show it very well though..

That Stavros certainly knows his stuff and for all you newcomers out there don't be afriad to follow his advise....

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Voyager on May 22, 2008, 11:05:33 am
Say...that's coming along nicely Footski  O0 I bet you are pleased you went with the cans now rather than hand painting.

Voyager
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: GaryM on May 22, 2008, 11:42:16 pm
Beautiful paint job!
How do you get the straight line?

regards
Gary :)
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on May 23, 2008, 07:56:55 am
Beautiful paint job!
How do you get the straight line?

regards
Gary :)
Thanks Gary.
In this case the water line is not easy as the hull is not level (horizontal) anywhere so I used the plan and measured from the top rubbing strake down to the line at regular intervals on the plan and transferred the measurement to the hull using a soft pencil. Then I used an expensive insulation tape through the pencil marks to get the finished edge, which I then checked using a thin and very straight piece of steel. After a little fine adjustment it was ready for painting. The good tape prevented any bleed from the black paint...
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on May 24, 2008, 01:38:32 pm
FIRST "SEA" TRIALS.....

Okay time to try her on the water and first results were very encouraging. She floats a little high at the stern, but other than that didn't look too bad.

The P94 worked superbly well. The control over the model is unlike anything I have had before and this was straight out of the box and first test....

Only one problem, the port motor starts to turn before the starboard one, in both directions and the model pushes to starboard when going forward. it moves in a perfectly straight line going astern. ANY IDEAS WHY AND HOW TO CORRECT IT?. The wiring for both motors is the same and just about the same length...
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Roger in France on May 24, 2008, 04:09:48 pm
Looks good Barry.

Sorry not a clue about your problem.

Is your pool chlorine or salt? Mine is salt and so I am not keen to run boats on it for long. Not had a swim yet this year, water temp is still only 17 after our long cold, wet spring.

Roger in France.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on May 24, 2008, 04:39:58 pm
Hi Roger,
Not my pool, don't have one and don't want one....More trouble than they are worth, plus I have the use of all the neighbours, which are chlorine, not salt. Water temperature now about 23 degrees so very swimmable....


Anyway the "thick plottens". I have swopped the wiring for the motors to the opposite sides on the P94 and this time it is the starboard motor that starts first and amintains a higher speed than the port......have a head ache now.....
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on May 24, 2008, 08:02:03 pm
Headache gone now.........A simple adjustment to the esc's and all is well. great piece of kit that P94

Go BUY ONE....You know you want too...
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: footskijunior on May 25, 2008, 01:30:04 pm
Looks good dad, can't find fault with it!

Tug boats do tend to ride high, as they 'dig in' when towing. Most that I have seen ride with the waterline out of the water (about 5% - ish) of the loadline draft.

Will write more tonight, BBQ now.

Mark
 and william
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on May 29, 2008, 09:25:43 am
Steam Windlass....

I have now put together the Steam windlass, which after careful consideration of scratch building, decided to buy one from MMM.

I first of all cleaned up the parts and after panting with a couple of coats of gloss green, with some Matt black parts I put it together. Then came the hard part and the bit I would welcome constructive criticism on...I weathered it, after all this is not a very well run Tug....My son Footskijunior (who is Chief Mate on tankers in the Caribbean) is the skipper tut tut...

Firstly I used my black milk technique to get the edges, corners and crannies looking dirty. Then I applied some "steel" by dry brushing and then, rusting powder. Finally I sealed it all in with a coat of clear varnish. The combination of black milk and the rust powder helps to take the shine off the gloss, but in places leaves just a little of it showing through...Photo one shows it before the rust was added.

Now as I am here to learn, is there a better way to do all that?. If so please let me know....I can try a new technique on the capstan and other parts...
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: footskijunior on May 29, 2008, 09:33:16 am
Hi dad,
A quickie.... Not sure if it applies but you never know..

Most steam appliances are painted with either a black or silver paint, as most other paints melt off with the heat.

Lucky my windlasses are hydraulic.

Mark
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: GaryM on May 29, 2008, 11:48:45 pm
Hi Barry - looks pretty good to me :)

What's "black milk," "steel" & "rusting powder"? 
I want to weather my boat and any help would be a great help - I don't want the boat looking as if she had just tasted water.

regards
Gary
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on May 30, 2008, 08:49:11 am
Hi Barry - looks pretty good to me :)

What's "black milk," "steel" & "rusting powder"? 
I want to weather my boat and any help would be a great help - I don't want the boat looking as if she had just tasted water.

regards
Gary

Hi Gary,
Black milk is a mix of milk and black emulsion paint. Added liberally to any pre painted and even varnished surface and allowed to either fully or partially dry. Then using a damp cloth, wipe it off. You will not be able to shift it all as some will remain in the cracks and joints. If not happy with the results, wash it off with water and a brush....It gives a geat effect and when fully dried can be varnished over to seal it.

The steel, is simply a steel coloured paint that is dry brushed onto the object to give the effect of the paint wearing off.

As for the rusting powders, they are an assortment of coloured powders from light rust colour to very dark, simply choose the colour you want and apply by brush vigorously. Blow away any excess and you have rust. Again it can be washed off if not happy. Varnish over to seal.

A little practice helps.

If you want more info....PM me..
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on June 07, 2008, 03:20:32 pm
Figures...

A difficult one this as painting figures is not something I do very often. Still having posted a specific thread o the subject and had some very useful replies, I have finished the figures......Not the best in the world but as stand-off viewing they are okay...

Next I will think about the boats.....Then i will think again about the boats and worry about them before starting them.....No idea which way to go with them yet, but will do some research first..
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on June 09, 2008, 11:37:16 am

Lovely finishing touch. Well done, they look super.

Ken
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on June 13, 2008, 10:46:25 am
IDENTITY.

The tug now has its formal name....Many thanks to Mike from Canada (tugs53), who sent me the lettering over. A truely kind gesture on his part and together with the advice he gave me, resulted in the finished article.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: footskijunior on June 14, 2008, 06:12:31 pm
that bloke on the back looks like me - hardly working!!
Looking good dad, keep it up.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: footskijunior on June 22, 2008, 08:38:56 am
donde the stern lights?
 ???
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on June 22, 2008, 09:10:46 am
donde the stern lights?
 ???

Atop the main mast!!!
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: footskijunior on June 23, 2008, 07:42:43 pm
what the stern lights doing on top of da main mast????

stern lights should be placed "as close to the stern as practicable" and have an arc of visibilty from dead astern to 22.5 degrees abaft the beam on each side...


still remember.

Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on June 23, 2008, 08:01:52 pm
I didn't know you were that old! {-)!! In 1890 when this Tug was made they were placed high up, in this case a few feet from the top of the main mast.... O0..
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on June 27, 2008, 06:19:43 pm
More finishing touches have been added now. figures all secured and the steam capstan made and installed. importantly she has had her final ballast test in the bath and over the weekend I hope to get her into the water for a prper run.

Still got plenty to do....rigging....ships boats....finish towbow and add the weathering touch to the hull.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: GaryM on June 27, 2008, 11:46:28 pm
Looks great Barry, got any more photo's? 
When you give her a proper run don't forget the photo's.  (and plenty of them)

regards
Gary :)
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on June 30, 2008, 06:05:22 pm
Okay Gary...You asked for them...

OFFICIAL LAUNCH..

Today she had her first proper sail and overall I am delighted..I pushed her hard to ensure she stays dry and to test the P94 from Action. She went better than I expected, apart from a slight list to port and the P94 needing a little tweak to make the steering slightly more responsive, there were no problems at all. Ignore the ships boat, it is heading for the bin and I am going to start them again.

A total novice had no problem running her around the pool, without hitting the walls, mainly thanks to the P94, which imparts instant response to the radio, enabling delicate manouvres with ease. I am delighted.

After the sail, I checked the inside and she was bone dry....

Hope you all enjoy the photos. I do have a short video but have no idea how to go about posting it.

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on June 30, 2008, 09:10:51 pm

Congratulations .......... What a super result. I like the weathering and the crew. Sets it off nicely.

Ken
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on June 30, 2008, 09:29:35 pm

Congratulations .......... What a super result. I like the weathering and the crew. Sets it off nicely.

Ken

Thanks Ken, from you that really is a compliment...Think I saw you and your Boston Typhoon on photos up North. Very nice too O0
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: GaryM on July 02, 2008, 02:19:47 am
Cracking boat and photo's. O0
No 011 and 013 are superb - the weathering looks brilliant as do the crew.
I'll be happy if mine comes out half as good.  Can you try and get the video on? (if you can) O0

regards
Gary :)
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on July 02, 2008, 08:15:37 am
Gary,

Thanks for that and yes photos 11 and 13 are the best..if you ignore the ships boat which is destined for the bin when I can get hols of some balsa to carve new ones...I will try to post the video which is only short but need to find out how.....Maybe I should join Youtube??

I checked out the P94 and it was fine, just a ittle problem with me. The slight list to port was due to the main battery having moved slightly during transport so all is well now and she goes very well on the water....Thanks everyone for all your kind comments. I will post again but it may be a while as I want to totally finish her first...
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on July 02, 2008, 10:11:07 pm

Hi Barry.

You-tube will be great fun. I had initial problems getting a film uploaded and have learnt a few tricks on the way.

1st you are going to need to get your films, which are probably in AVI format, transfered to Mpeg4. I have my Film making program that does this for me.

2nd there is a limit on the size of the film which is 100meg, so at this format you can go up to about 7 minutes long, although I have seen longer films on there and I'm not sure how they got away with it because they are converted again to their formatting. (which is why you can't download their versions without special gear.

Where I was going wrong was that before converting the AVI files, my films memory content were a massive 6 gigs, and were refused permission to load, yet the same film converted down in Mpeg4 was drastically reduced in size and beat the limitations.

Hope this helps.

Ken
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on July 14, 2008, 09:03:15 am
Kenny,

Finally joined Youtube and posted these two short videos of her in action. Sorry about the quality and lack of sound but they were shot on my stills camera. The guy sailing her is a complete novice who made it look easy..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzPF6Knoais

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuRiBr3yeyI

I hope to get better at this lark,

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: DickyD on July 14, 2008, 10:02:55 am
Videos aren't bad Barry.
Lady T goes really well and looks great,
Think you need a bigger bath though. ;)
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on July 14, 2008, 10:34:10 am

Hey, you're going to put us all out of business now. Lovely videos and location. Well done on your presentation.

Ken


Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on July 14, 2008, 10:35:47 am
True Richard, I have been looking for a club earby but there isn't one.....May have to start my own as we do have a beautiful lake within a kilometer of the house...but it has to be formalised before it can be used    ...Now all I need are members!!!

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Captain Povey on July 14, 2008, 02:26:02 pm
Hi Barry, Well done mate she looks great and your novice skipper coped very well.  O0
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on November 06, 2008, 05:18:47 pm
Hi guys,

Well it has been a while but have finally made some progress with the tugs bpats. I settled fro the papier mache approach on a balsa plug and have now got to a stage where the hulls have been painted and covered in a kitchen paper tarpaulin. They still need to be aged and installed on the tug, oh and a few ropes and bits and bobs added so will keep you all posted..

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: craftysod on November 07, 2008, 08:05:12 pm
Lovely build Barry,my other half thinks its nice,especially as its her name
Mark
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on December 08, 2008, 11:15:37 am
I have now attached the bow fender after initial weathering with black coffee. Just a little more needed before final varnishing so I attached the starboard boat which only requires rigging, weathering and final varnishing..
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 08, 2008, 11:46:26 am

Looks gorgeous, Barry. Just the job.   :-))

ken
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: kno3 on December 08, 2008, 02:40:11 pm
Looks very nice! How long is she?
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on December 08, 2008, 05:22:17 pm
Looks very nice! How long is she?

35 inches...
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: ggeorge on December 11, 2008, 02:39:56 am
Hi Barry,
 Great looking model, Looks fantastic on the water.
G.George
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: barryfoote on December 14, 2008, 11:13:40 am
 :-) :-) :-)SHE IS NOW FINISHED.... :-) :-) :-)

Fenders aged with coffee and a weak black emulsion..

Ships boats rigged, aged and varnished.

Thanks guys for allowing me to share this build with you all and for the many helpful and on occasions humerous comments. I really feel as if I have not done this on my own...

Barry
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: kno3 on December 14, 2008, 12:06:59 pm
Congratulations! What's the next project going to be?   :}
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: dan on December 14, 2008, 03:50:34 pm
looks beautiful, and i especially like the weathering, all  your hard work has certainly paid off  O0
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: craftysod on December 14, 2008, 04:39:01 pm
If this was on a pond or lake,could be mistaken for real boat such great work
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/craftysod/index4.jpg)
Mark
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: dougal99 on December 14, 2008, 05:01:01 pm
:-) :-) :-)SHE IS NOW FINISHED.... :-) :-) :-)

I really feel as if I have not done this on my own...

Barry

Brilliant model                     - as for the support don't worry working on the bill (quenta?) right now  {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)

All the best

Doug
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Martin (Admin) on February 22, 2009, 12:57:24 pm
lasatalayas' Lady T here: http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=15639.msg145031#msg145031
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Footski on March 19, 2012, 04:37:44 pm
I need this topic so am replying to link it back to me...I seem to have lost my threads since the collapse.
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 19, 2012, 04:46:28 pm
Clever idea!

You can also use the button above   -   (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/Themes/babylon/images/english_british/notify.gif)
Title: Re: The Lady T
Post by: lasatalayas on March 19, 2012, 05:14:35 pm
Now for sale
http://www.kenandglen.com/tugboat/