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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #70 on: July 05, 2007, 08:15:51 PM »

You can use a switch unit for the lights with a Y lead from the rudder and set it to work on full rudder with trim and use one that latch  . I have used an electronize but the action will prob work the same. 
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #71 on: July 05, 2007, 08:16:55 PM »

Ian before you go any further detailing the deck PM me your home address and i'll send you a couple of DVD's with films of the Steam Drifters and From Drift net to Purse Net which shows the boats working with all the deck details including colour film showing you have the colours spot on.

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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #72 on: July 05, 2007, 08:38:40 PM »

Hi,

Martin, I used a butchered nit comb and a  sharpened rubber to get the grained effect.

Peter, I will be using an action switcher to switch between running and standing lights using the throttle lever.

Davie, thanks, pm with info sent.

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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #73 on: July 05, 2007, 08:52:19 PM »

sorry Ian I mis read the "can" in your post after seeing the" only use 2 channel radio"

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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #74 on: July 09, 2007, 10:55:45 PM »

At least you got the hoosie (wheelhouse) rebuilt and the blocks look good keep checking to se how you are getting on do you have plans for this model at all
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #75 on: July 09, 2007, 11:40:11 PM »

wbeedie,

nope, no plans, just a photo from 1915 or so, some lines from an old book and lots of help from people who know more than me!

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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #76 on: July 10, 2007, 12:01:10 AM »

boatmadman

don't know whether you had problems getting the cord to stay on ,but I read an article some time ago in one of the mags (I think) about blocks and they used a couple of strands of copper wire wound together in a hand drill and painted for the rope around them as they where having problems with the cord staying on , But they may have been on a boat that req them being strong for sails.

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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #77 on: July 10, 2007, 12:10:39 AM »

Peter,

No real problem with the cord, i just used cyno - works for me!

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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #78 on: July 10, 2007, 07:17:09 PM »

Port , Starboard , All round White on the mast head and the Stern Light , she would only have used a coloured fishing lamp when lying to her nets and when hauling them if you want i'll try and find out which colours and where they were
Just a query, but by "multicoloured" do you mean the infamous "tri-coloured" mast light?
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #79 on: July 10, 2007, 08:13:43 PM »

I never mentioned multi-coloured lights. All the lights were seperate lamps for each colour
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #80 on: July 12, 2007, 07:41:51 PM »

Davie,

Looking closely at the pic you posted of the real steam capstan, there is a pipe to the rear right that appears to be connected to the capstan. Is the the steam supply/discharge? If so, does it penetrate the deck and where was the engine sited?

If it isnt, what is it?

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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #81 on: July 12, 2007, 08:30:27 PM »

The red pipe is just the deck cleaning hose coiled around the base Ian and nothing to do with the Capstan.

The steam motor was directly below the deck supplied with steam from the boiler so no need to worry about it. There was a steam discharge pipe up through the capstan tho what you can see in some of the film on those DVD's I sent you tho.

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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #82 on: July 16, 2007, 10:10:14 PM »

And in those times when I was fed up/frustrated with jeannie, I built Skitzo!

From free plans on the net! ;D ;D
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #83 on: July 19, 2007, 08:13:26 PM »

Wonderful job, lovely detail. Like it a lot.

How did you make the lamp shades? - something I tried a few years ago and failed miserably.

All the best

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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #84 on: July 19, 2007, 09:25:02 PM »

Skitzo "Powered by Mayhem" Brilliant!!!  ;D
Can we have a picture of the guts please?

Am I getting senile or wasn't the wheelhouse damaged at one stage?  ???
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #85 on: July 20, 2007, 08:53:56 AM »

Gets better all the time Ian
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #86 on: July 20, 2007, 10:43:00 AM »

Doug,
The lamp shades are from scoonie models, part of their deck light kit. I made a different top for them so the tube carrying the wires entered from the side, rather from the top as scoonie supply them.

Martin,

Pics of Skitzo guts will appear when they are all fitted!

Yes, the wheelhouse did get damaged, but I managed to repair it, which was a releif. Building a new one would have been a pain!

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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #87 on: August 03, 2007, 10:15:04 PM »

its been a while since I've visited the forum, been making tram models!  Drifter is looking great...scratch that its looking terrific!!!!! (all the exclamation marks were necessary!)

I especially like the wood grain detail on the wheelhouse.
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #88 on: August 19, 2007, 03:23:10 AM »

looking marvelous. O0 Too clean though  ;D
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #89 on: August 19, 2007, 05:41:01 AM »

Aw, these pics are nice - especially that one where we see the 15-way D socket and all the internal gubbins.
It's similar quality to 2772e's stuff, over at http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1867.msg19669#msg19669

Top-notch work!
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #90 on: August 19, 2007, 08:15:00 PM »

Thanks fellas.

Next question, does anyone know what size the net floats were on the origional boats?

Thanks

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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #91 on: August 20, 2007, 09:43:40 PM »

remember seeing old floats in my Grandas net store that were about eight inches long from some of his old drift nets O0
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #92 on: August 20, 2007, 10:26:06 PM »

The floats on the net itself was 8"x4"x2" made out of Cork. The bigger white floats would be 24" diameter roughly , they varied from 18" to 30" depending on the skippers preference and how deep the net was being fished.
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #93 on: August 20, 2007, 10:29:49 PM »

Thats great, thanks guys.

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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #94 on: August 21, 2007, 09:04:00 PM »

Havent a photo of the wee floats but the link is a picture of my father with a bigger float getting ready to shot away the drift
http://www.trawlerphotos.co.uk/gallery/data/505/medium/Black_n_white_shottin_2.jpg
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #95 on: August 28, 2007, 04:20:20 PM »

Once again, thanks for the help.

The small cork floats, did they have a rope attached? How many would you expect to see on a drifter? Where abouts and how would they be stacked whilst on passage to/from fishing grounds?

How many of the larger floats would I expect to see?

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« Reply #96 on: August 28, 2007, 08:18:54 PM »

The small ones were spaced about a foot - 2ft apart along the headline of the net , all along so there would have been close to a thousand in total. The larger ones were spaced every net so around 40 in total but you could have a cage on the port side of the wheelhouse for them and just model the external ones bulking up the middle. They were white and had the boats registration letters/number on them.
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #97 on: August 28, 2007, 08:34:26 PM »

Thats a sh1t load of floats!

Where would the net be stowed in passage to/from fishing grounds?

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« Reply #98 on: August 28, 2007, 09:39:23 PM »

Well where the hatch is opens up and the net is in there. When filling the hold they opened up round hatch's in the deck and just let the herring drop into the hold below. The hold is seperated from the central section so the net can be stowed there.
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #99 on: August 29, 2007, 09:55:31 PM »

Davie,

Any chance you could sketch out the shape of a net so I can try to get reasonably close to the real thing?

Also, what colour would the net be?

Thanks

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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #100 on: August 29, 2007, 10:26:50 PM »

I can do better than that Ian i've already scanned in drawings that i'm using for an article on another website
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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #101 on: August 29, 2007, 10:30:30 PM »

The nets were very dark brown almost black but not quite. The big floats were white the corks usually unpainted. I forgot that the flat corks were only on the ends of the nets with a circular cork float ( threaded onto the headline ) on the rest of the headline.

The heavy ropes would be a slightly lighter brown/black than the net ( both were "tarred" or "barked" with cutch to preserve them as the nets were heavy cotton with hemp ropes ).

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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #102 on: August 29, 2007, 11:18:39 PM »

Thats great Davie, once again, thanks for your help.

I think I will prob make up a few sections of net to look something like and drape them over the hatch.

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Re: Q & A - 1915 steam drifter build
« Reply #103 on: September 03, 2007, 04:05:16 PM »

Looked brilliant out of the water, looks even better on it. Well done Ian.  O0
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« Reply #104 on: September 03, 2007, 11:26:27 PM »

I've been watching this build closely, and it looks grand.  Well done!!!
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