Topic: Briganteen Freebooter under sail (Read 11215 times)

Jimmy James · « **Reply #36 on:** May 12, 2010, 05:43:25 PM »

The above 4 photos of "Wyvern" topsail Schooner were posted because of the several requests I have received asking about the rig used to tack the overlapping jib...
These are early photos when she still had a raised main hatch, she, has since been modified and the hatch is now flush with the deck but the sail control is unchanged (I like my controls on deck where I can get at them)
Control is by 2 quarter power servos mounted on the underside of the hatch with the sail arm's exposed on deck,--- The after servo controls the main & fore sails it is a single arm servo mounted on the centre line and is connected directly to the fore and main booms (a bowser on the booms allowes the sheets to be adjusted)
Control to the Staysail and the Jib is via a double arm servo (this allows a push me, pull you sheet arrangement) the Stay sail is boomed and the sheets Port & Starb'd are attached to the sail arm.... The Jib sheets are run the same way except, because of the extra length of sheet needed a 2 fold Dutchmans Purchase is used (Sheet runs from the clew of the sail to the arm then forward through a block or eye back to the arm then back forward and is made fast with a bowser ... this rig gives you 3 times as much movement and allows you to use an overlapping Jib...
Jimmy

Jimmy James · « **Reply #37 on:** May 12, 2010, 07:59:59 PM »

Sail control of 1 or more overi lapping jibs

Jimmy James · « **Reply #38 on:** May 12, 2010, 08:02:06 PM »

meatbomber · « **Reply #39 on:** May 13, 2010, 06:21:45 PM »

can you tell how much torque your jib servo has ? i`m using a double purchase loop on my jibs whith a free running clew and i already get troubles with having a lot of drag (2 loops f1 for jib and one for flying jib) and stalling the servo when sailing in high winds (the servo also controls the foremast square sails on my Brig)

i`m definitely contempating a seperate jib servo for my next ship !

Jimmy James · « **Reply #40 on:** May 14, 2010, 07:45:55 PM »

Phillip
You can get Servos with a 17kg pull and metal gears that are the same size as a normal servo But a lot more powerful ...a mail order company here in England sells them (www.howesmodels.co.uk UK phone number 01865 848000 ( for international try 0044 1865 848000) They are closed on Wednesdays & Sundays ...Price in UK is £15.00 used to be £29.00 but has gone down lately .....I don't know how much that would be in your currency......... With the small size models you build 1 or 2 of these should eat the job
Hope this helps

Jimmy

Jimmy James · « **Reply #41 on:** May 14, 2010, 08:45:43 PM »

Deck Fittings and jib rigging

Jimmy James · « **Reply #42 on:** May 14, 2010, 08:49:09 PM »

Topsail schooner Wyvern
Jimmy

Jimmy James · « **Reply #43 on:** May 14, 2010, 09:35:49 PM »

Rudder controls and main & fore sail servo control arm ....Jib and staysail control arm hidden under the boats

Greggy1964 · « **Reply #44 on:** May 15, 2010, 02:31:10 PM »

Hi Jimmy James,

I like the way the servo sail control arms blend into the deck clutter so as you have to really look to spot them.

This system of sail control has always bothered me as spoiling the look of an otherwise fine vessel but you have carried it off admirably

Jimmy James · « **Reply #45 on:** May 15, 2010, 07:39:36 PM »

Greggy
Thank you very much kind sir..

.. I allways disliked Leads and rope work hidden down below where a snagged or broken sheet can spoil a days sailing ..

.on real ships they are always to hand and anyway

)from 6 feet away you can't see them... I build my ships to sail the way any good seaman would do it ---Simple and straight forward...Aboard ship, in my experance fancy complicated rigg's go wrong and kill people and or wreck ships.

Jimmy
Freebooter

Jimmy James · « **Reply #46 on:** May 21, 2010, 06:54:14 PM »

The answer is that the guns are all mounted on a false section of decking that lifts off to allow ease of reloading ...this is something new that I am trying out and is still very much in the prototype stage... If you are going to Wicksteed I hope to be there on the Saterday and will have two or three vessels with me

Jimmy
Freebooter

Jimmy James · « **Reply #47 on:** June 07, 2010, 10:46:31 PM »

Mon 22 May 2010 Eaton Park Norwich ...Pirates plundering the lake!!! where was the Navy???

Freebooter

Jimmy James · « **Reply #48 on:** June 10, 2010, 01:21:51 PM »

Proof of a Buccaneering Raid on hapless shipping in the Norwich lake ... Where was the Navy???...

This is Believed to the Flag Ship of a Privateering Flotilla of some 6 or 7 vessels believed to be based somewhere on the East Angilan coast... Two of these vessels along with a Steam Iron Clad are thought to be the vessels used in the raid on shipping at Wicksteed park last week

Please advise on any sightings of these vessels

Jimmy James · « **Reply #49 on:** June 11, 2010, 04:43:56 PM »

These Photos Kindly taken by Tony H. of the fat pointy thing fame during a raid at Eaton Park

Thanks Tony

Freebooter

Jimmy James · « **Reply #50 on:** June 11, 2010, 05:20:01 PM »

More vews at Eaton Park By
Tony H

Freebooter

Jimmy James · « **Reply #51 on:** June 20, 2010, 09:03:31 PM »

Topsail schooner with the topsail set ... Sorry about the angle we are trying to get a better one...
But rain and squalls stopped play
Freebooter

meatbomber · « **Reply #52 on:** June 20, 2010, 09:14:12 PM »

looks good :) do you have any troubles with the Jib not setting propperly with teh fore braces and bowlines ?

I dropped Somers just now and she`s all in a sorry state.. looks like she had a brush with a squal, the foretopgallant mast went by the bord taking all teh stays and jibs with it.. now i`m cleaning up the wreakage..
My ships seem to take the strongest beating in storage and transport...

Jimmy James · « **Reply #53 on:** June 21, 2010, 09:09:49 PM »

Phillip
I cut my jib's Yankee fashion (high in the foot) so they don't foul the Braces and Bow lines ( this is one of the advantages of running the braces Cutter stile ie: to the bow spirit as they are mostly clear of sails )

I too find I get more damage in transport to and from the lake side than I ever get from sailing

it's just one of those things no matter how you try something allways gets snagged or fouled or gets knocked and broken.....but other than locking the model up in a bullet proof glass case I don't know of anyway to stop the transport damage.
But no drought we will know get a lot of suggestions from our readers

(transport boxes are too Big, expensive, Heavy & take up to much room...
Jimmy

Jimmy James · « **Reply #54 on:** August 08, 2010, 10:19:39 PM »

New addition to the fleet... The Armed 18 century lugger "Wolfshead"

Freebooter

Jimmy James · « **Reply #55 on:** October 30, 2010, 08:58:43 PM »

Rog
I'll try to post you some pictures of her running closed reefed.
Jimmy

meatbomber · « **Reply #56 on:** October 30, 2010, 09:04:14 PM »

Ah great :) i was just trying to understand how the reefing of teh sails work !

Jimmy James · « **Reply #57 on:** October 31, 2010, 01:07:28 AM »

Phillip
I have some diagrams of Jack line reefing which is the systime I allways use on square riggers and usually use on fore and afters (some times I use slab reefing on fore & afters)
I'll try to get it posted by tomorrow night
Jimmy

To put in a reef, slack the jeers and the lifts ... this will lower the yard slightly....lift the cringles on each side of the sail and hook them to the yard ... this is all you have to do to reef the sail ....To make every thing tidy and seaman like reeve the reefing pennet through the jack line on the front of the sail then over the yard and through the jack line on the back of the sail...keep lacing it back and forth over the yard and tie off at the end ...I often replace the reefing pennet with a pipe cleaneror a bit of fuse wire
1 - 2 or 3 reefs can be put in a sail ... when you've done it once ore twice it only takes about 1 minet to put a reef in

You can see the jack lines in these photos
Jimmy

derekwarner_decoy · « **Reply #58 on:** October 31, 2010, 02:36:57 AM »

Hey Captain Jimmy James.......that second .jpg below......on my 24" monitor appears to be sailing into my office as a real vessel & not scaled down.... ...congratulations

....Derek

Jimmy James · « **Reply #59 on:** October 31, 2010, 04:36:48 PM »

Derek

Sorry about that,

It's those pesky Pirates they get everywere --- this morning they boarded an innocent yacht sailing down on the lake ---

you should have heard the screams comming from the poor little Barbie Doll sun bathing on the foredeck

...
Freebooter

Jimmy James · « **Reply #60 on:** November 26, 2010, 10:11:41 PM »

This is the way I rig my deadeyes ...If I use shop bought ones I redrill the holes too 1.5mm... On most rigging jobs I thread the rigging through a needle or at least stiffen the end with glue I then setup the deadeyes on the shrouds and chain plates... and then reeve off the lanyards. I find this is the easiest way for ME to get the correct tension
Jimmy

derekwarner_decoy · « **Reply #61 on:** November 26, 2010, 11:11:45 PM »

Captain Jimmy ...I see you recycle paper which is good

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but what is ....... www.timiloronrqsonmarketiug.com

....Derek

Jimmy James · « **Reply #62 on:** November 27, 2010, 07:30:10 PM »

Bin watching Star Gate Universe (Yep I'm a Sci Fy Buff) on Sky TV on Tuesday nights and missed one.... someone sent me info. on how to retrieve that episode which I must have inadvertently coped on one of my diagrams
Sorry about that, My Daughters & Granddaughters say it's down to old age, The Boss says it's down to amount of Mead & Rum ... I say its down the the lack of Mead & Rum Mm-mm... also Malt whiskey and Gin ..Wine and other Brain lubrication fluid.
Hic!!! Jimmy

dave301bounty · « **Reply #63 on:** November 27, 2010, 08:12:23 PM »

Really good ,Jimmy. You should be proud of y,self ,some of those shots could easily have come out of a movie .good on yer ,take a turn ,and have a tot .

Jimmy James · « **Reply #64 on:** November 28, 2010, 09:22:55 PM »

Dave 301
It's nice to get a pat on the back, But I don't really deserve it, all I do is muddle through the building of a model the way I think it should be...My models are almost completely scratch built without plans (Those are mostly In My Head)or measurements ...often only from a picture in a book or a photo ... Thats why when people ask me for dimensions I have to go and find a yardstick and as for scale I call it back seat scale (it fits on the back seat of my car) ...As for the brilliant photos of my models ,,,the out of focus ones are the ones I took (I can't take photos for toffee) The really good ones like the one of "Freebooter"trying to run you down Were taken by Rob Our club secretary (In a set of waders up to his wast for that shot) Juley/ Mark & Roy also club members Took smashing shots as did Roger & Tony H from Essex. And not to forget our very own Martin from Mayhem..So you see I can only take a bit of credit for shaping and painting some bits of wood and tying on some string and bits of cloth . not for the photos
But I Will have a tot thank you
Jimmy

LarryW · « **Reply #65 on:** December 03, 2010, 04:16:45 PM »

hi jimmy need to press gang crew for black rose ,any ideas? ..........Larry

Jimmy James · « **Reply #66 on:** December 03, 2010, 08:42:42 PM »

Larry
Lately I have been using figures Called (TUBE AVENTURE PIRATES this consists of 7 figures, a cannon. some powder barrels and a skeleton for £6.99 from our local kids toy shop The company that makes them is The Figures are about 50mm tall (about 2" in real money)

TOBAR The Old Aerodrome Beccles Norfolk NR34 7SP

www.tobar.co.uk

if you look In the Thread on Yachts and Sail R&D (18th Century Lugger ) all the crew om "Wolfs Head " are theses figures...
Hope this helps

Jimmy

LarryW · « **Reply #67 on:** December 06, 2010, 12:05:36 PM »

thanks for info , BUT , the crew members are discontined ,

Larry.

Jimmy James · « **Reply #68 on:** December 06, 2010, 07:56:41 PM »

Larry
I was down my local shop this morning and on the off chance had a look there were 3 Pirate tubes left if you want one Ill post it to you £6.99 + postage
Jimmy

LarryW · « **Reply #69 on:** December 06, 2010, 08:06:47 PM »

thank you jimmy have given up on crew, working now how to rig sails to RC, cheers Larry....

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