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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #105 on: January 24, 2009, 08:01:13 AM »
Congratulations, that man...we have a hero in out midst!

Take a bow, young sir... :-))

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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #106 on: January 24, 2009, 01:47:18 PM »
It seems we have a true hero on the forum
WELL DONE BILL
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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #107 on: January 24, 2009, 02:55:47 PM »
WHat a star this man is turning out to be WELL DONE THAT MAN



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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #108 on: January 27, 2009, 05:51:14 PM »
Well here we are. I'm looking forwards to Thursday (work permitting) and or Sunday to get in my third run in. Thanks to Andy who came up with some more perspex I have now got a new cover fitted over the radio box area.  I hope to put my GPS in the boat on Sunday to check out just how fast it is going now. If I am happy then maybe the week after I will take it up to Willen Lake MK for a full on test.
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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #109 on: January 27, 2009, 06:02:45 PM »
Good luck with the test Bill...give it a large portion!

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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #110 on: January 27, 2009, 06:45:37 PM »
One of these days I will get launching the things sorted, likes to dive in nose first...

Willen eh? can I come?
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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #111 on: January 27, 2009, 06:52:00 PM »
Can I bring mine as well?


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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #112 on: January 27, 2009, 06:54:17 PM »
Yes Andy BUT you will have to short out your launch angle. Don't chuck it, just place it in the water and the rest is up to me.
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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #113 on: January 27, 2009, 06:59:49 PM »
Quote from: U-33 on January 27, 2009, 06:52:00 PM
Can I bring mine as well?


Rich


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Hi Rich
I take it your ready for your 1st run then? PS stick a pic up here for the rest to see.
Willen Lake is in Milton Keynes. Just off the M1 J14.  A bit to far for you to come out to play I think. But if you want to come up to Stevenage you would be made welcome.
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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #114 on: January 27, 2009, 07:07:39 PM »
Very nearly Bill...batteries should be here tomorrow, as should the radio(with a bit of luck and a following wind), I'm hoping to take it down to the water by this weekend and get it wet, I'll post up some pics of it then.

That doesn't sound too far to come and play, used to travel a lot further to play with the subs...I may very well have a run up there soon as it's ready.

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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #115 on: January 27, 2009, 07:12:24 PM »
Quote from: U-33 on January 27, 2009, 07:07:39 PM
Very nearly Bill...batteries should be here tomorrow, as should the radio(with a bit of luck and a following wind), I'm hoping to take it down to the water by this weekend and get it wet, I'll post up some pics of it then.

That doesn't sound too far to come and play, used to travel a lot further to play with the subs...I may very well have a run up there soon as it's ready.

Rich
Bring it on Rich. Do you still run your Sub? If so maybe you could bring that along with you as well
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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #116 on: January 27, 2009, 07:16:42 PM »
Quote from: Bill D203 on January 27, 2009, 06:54:17 PM
Yes Andy BUT you will have to short out your launch angle. Don't chuck it, just place it in the water and the rest is up to me.

Good luck with it Bill,by the way Andy has the right idea you have to chuck a rigger in with some revs or it wont get up and going very well.Just make sure you throw it with a slight nose up attitude so she doesnt submarine  :-)).Give her some throttle and chuck her in and she should take off and if Andy gets soaked then you know it was a good launch  :-)),sorry Andy  ok2.
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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #117 on: January 27, 2009, 07:23:03 PM »
Bill heres a good pic of my mate Brians g force rigger been launched,he recomends a good hard chuck with plenty of revs.Mind you he now launches his on his own maybe this pic tells you why  :}.
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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #118 on: January 27, 2009, 07:53:38 PM »
Quote from: Bill D203 on January 27, 2009, 07:12:24 PM
Quote from: U-33 on January 27, 2009, 07:07:39 PM
Very nearly Bill...batteries should be here tomorrow, as should the radio(with a bit of luck and a following wind), I'm hoping to take it down to the water by this weekend and get it wet, I'll post up some pics of it then.

That doesn't sound too far to come and play, used to travel a lot further to play with the subs...I may very well have a run up there soon as it's ready.

Rich
Bring it on Rich. Do you still run your Sub? If so maybe you could bring that along with you as well


I don't have an operational sub at this point in time Bill...U-33 is awaiting parts from the US of A, 'Mother Russia' is sold and goes off to it's new home tomorrow, and U-441(U-Flak1)is still in kit form at my cousin's in Vancouver BC awaiting collection when I go over later in the year.

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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #119 on: January 27, 2009, 08:00:24 PM »
Martin. I see. ANDY your going to get WET {-) {-) {-) {-) It realy dose pick up well from a standing start.
Rich We are all awaiting the 1st run this weekend.
Andy. Your going to get WET. he he he :} :} :} :}
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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #120 on: January 27, 2009, 08:14:06 PM »
Go electric...don't have that problem. PLACE the boat in the water, sit down on your seat, roll a smoke, pour a cup of liquid refreshment and turn up the wick. Nice and sedate...

Pics attached are of the rigger as it was when I bought it...

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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #121 on: January 27, 2009, 08:20:59 PM »
Look's OK Rich. I have posted on the other site re tape. see e bay item No 190281227047
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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #122 on: January 27, 2009, 08:25:16 PM »
Got it Bill, thanks.

I fancy spraying the rigger bright pink....

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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #123 on: January 27, 2009, 08:46:44 PM »
There are MANY color spray paint on sale at Halfords. Some are very nice, WHY PINK????
Any way go with the flow .
Im off out now . Be back later
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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #124 on: January 28, 2009, 12:44:06 PM »
Nice little rigger that Rich is that what Euans making now?,what motor and power you running in that thing?.My lad has one of those minicat hydros and its running about 40 mph with a small brushless and lipo setup its only about 12" long  :o.Regarding tape for radio boxes ive been using Scotch Magic clear tape with good results on my big hydro its not quite clear its more semi clear if that makes sense lol.Cost me a cpl of quid from woolies so you might need to go elsewhere for it now,try wilkos.
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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #125 on: January 28, 2009, 01:20:03 PM »
I bought it from Euan, Mart, but I don't know if he's building any more of them. He tells me that it was built from a plan by a chap in Devon(name unknown). It's 28"x14" across the sponsons, and has a Graupner Speed 700 9.6 bb turbo motor installed with a matching flexi coupler, it runs a 42 mm Graupner prop, a Viking w/cooled esc and has(or will have when they arrive)2 6cell 4300a/h battery packs.

I've got so much tape in here now mate, I could wrap up Woollies with it! I'll just try them all, find one I like and stick with it.
(stick with it?...STICK with ...oh, never mind)  ;)


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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #126 on: January 28, 2009, 02:21:29 PM »
We managed to go a hundred and twenty four replies without a rubbish joke Rich....
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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #127 on: January 28, 2009, 02:37:32 PM »
Sorry Andy...just had to be done! No more...promise.   :D

Here's a pic of the rigger with it's new hatch cover laid on...now all I need a real macho name for it.

Rich

(oh..note the custom build boat stand  :embarrassed:)
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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #128 on: January 28, 2009, 02:53:29 PM »
Quote from: U-33 on January 28, 2009, 02:37:32 PM
now all I need a real macho name for it.

How about FLUFFLES or THE FLUFFINATOR ?
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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #129 on: January 28, 2009, 02:56:58 PM »
Ye Gods...there's always one, isn't there? Fluffles indeed!! I thought of The Duck Destroyer...or The Duckinator.

Fluffles...huh!!!   ;D

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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #130 on: January 28, 2009, 04:20:23 PM »
Looks good mate should go well,good luck with it  and keep us informed,you might be surprised by the speed  ok2.
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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #131 on: January 28, 2009, 04:51:49 PM »
Thanks Mart...Bill...Andy...and everybody for all the help, suggestions and advice you've given me, I appreciate it all. Even the name suggestions... ;D

Hopefully, the maiden voyage will take place on a secret water over the weekend, I'll post some pics up of what happens. As we say in all the best places..."watch this space".


Quote from: martno1fan on January 28, 2009, 04:20:23 PM
Looks good mate should go well,good luck with it  and keep us informed,you might be surprised by the speed  ok2.
Mart

Don't you mean "frightened by the speed".... :o

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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #132 on: January 28, 2009, 04:53:14 PM »
Quote from: U-33 on January 28, 2009, 02:56:58 PM
Ye Gods...there's always one, isn't there? Fluffles indeed!! I thought of The Duck Destroyer...or The Duckinator.

Fluffles...huh!!!   ;D

Rich
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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #133 on: January 28, 2009, 05:32:20 PM »
Bill...I think that A DUCK UP is probably nearer!!!  O0  O0


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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #134 on: January 28, 2009, 05:57:52 PM »
Quote from: U-33 on January 28, 2009, 05:32:20 PM
Bill...I think that A DUCK UP is probably nearer!!!  O0  O0


Rich
I did put that down first of all , Then I wondered if it would get a rap from the moderators. So I changed it.  The New cover looks OK.
Been thinking today about the motor in your boat.  2 things. 1 It looks like a standard 540 motor. IF it is you could get a bit more Speed out of the boat replacing it with a Hot buggy motor. Still you are only going to find that out when you run it.
2 DON'T be tempted to run it in the bath tub. I did and it was a hard job telling the wife why there was chips out of the Fiber glass Opps ! + the fact it Will empty the water out all over the walls etc. Opps again.
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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #135 on: January 28, 2009, 06:12:41 PM »
Rich it will go well with that 700 turbo ?,you could also go brushless when you want more speed.That mini cat my lad has scared the heck out of us when we got it running well,its as fast as my stock zenoah powered vee if not faster.Your going to have lots of fun with that thing im sure,as will Bill with his once he gets it dialed in.
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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #136 on: January 28, 2009, 06:49:38 PM »
Euan tells me that the motor is a water cooled Graupner Speed 700 Turbo BB...it looks pretty big when compared to a stock 540. I'm really looking forward to giving it a run this weekend if all goes according to plan and all the bits arrive.

Bill...I have tried the motor VERY briefly on a 9volt cell I had laying around, it frightened the life out of me! I'm more used to a pair of 380's running on a 6 volt gel cel, not this thing! And as for the bathroom tales...I'd have thought a man of your obvious calibre would have known better! Ron Perrott, and old model submariner friend, once famously tested his home brewed torpedoes in the bath...he had to explain to his good lady why there wasn't an end to their bath any more. He'd fired the torpedo and blown the end of the bath off...very embarrassing!!

We shall have fun mate, come the weekend...at least you have a head start on me!

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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #137 on: January 28, 2009, 11:27:17 PM »
Hi Rich
Now the bit about blowing the end of the bath out I like very much.  {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) Oh boy arn't we just daft at times??
Your motor set up sounds Ok then. Yes they rev there "bottom" off. Don't foget to get someone to take some pic's or better still video.
Cheers.
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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #138 on: January 29, 2009, 07:46:06 PM »
It's all good fun Bill...or so they tell me!

Another question for you guys...how much rudder throw should I be aiming for? Maximum throw, then adjust from there?

Rich

(Oh, by the way, I've got a name for the boat...."1st Attempt". How's that sound?)
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Re: Gas 26cc Rigger/ Hydroplane
« Reply #139 on: January 29, 2009, 09:01:58 PM »
...."1st Attempt".  Sounds just fine, however I think it's been done before. Rudder ? yes mine works about 30 deg either side of the center line.  You will find you will not use all the movement when its running but it's nice to have in case you have to do a sharp turn.
Had mine on the water this afternoon. Put my GPS in to track the speed. I got Max speed 41MPH. I really do need to try it out on a larger lake to give it full steam ahead. Andy & I may go up the M1 to MK in a week or so.
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