Topic: Turborix 2.4G 6 Channel Digital Programmable Radio Gear (Read 15797 times)

lasatalayas · « **on:** February 12, 2009, 04:23:24 PM »

Has anyone experience of this product?
The price is great - 40$US

I've just bought one but the instructions regarding binding the receiver seem a bit odd - putting a link on the Rx Battery connector and connecting the Battery to a Rx servo channel.

I'd appreciate any thoughts.

See details at http://r2hobbies.com/proddetail.php?prod=rcps61206_61411&utm_source=streamsend&utm_medium=email&utm_content=1813771&utm_campaign=no%20interference%20quality%202.4g%20radio%20system%20available

andrewh · « **Reply #1 on:** February 12, 2009, 05:03:31 PM »

lasatalayas,

A friend of mine has got one of these with three receivers - he says it does exactly what it says on the tin!

He has sent me a URL which discusses the system at very great length. I will send you the reference.

Most adjustments - including servo reversing etc are done via a programming lead to a computer - there has been some discussion about the link not working (or not working easily) with Vista.

I am planning to order a set in the next few days - no doubt you have found that there are two receivers from turborix - I want the single-box receiver.

more later,
andrew

Peterm · « **Reply #2 on:** February 12, 2009, 06:31:06 PM »

Thats the way binding is done on the Spektrum 5E. Pete M

lasatalayas · « **Reply #3 on:** February 12, 2009, 07:33:30 PM »

Pete M
So is it OK to plug the battery connector into a servo port and the shoring link into the battery port?
Seems to go against normal electronic practice!

wideawake · « **Reply #4 on:** February 12, 2009, 09:12:35 PM »

Yes it's fine. As PeteM says, it's the way Spektrum sets go into binding mode. The link doesn't do anything daft like shorting + to - but earths the data line.

HTH

Guy

andrewh · « **Reply #5 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:13:49 AM »

My friend with the radio says that the ability to change receivers is simple and wonderful - so I assume its troublefree and reliable - however they do it. He has three of the 2-piece receivers, and is quite happy with them

The discussion I was pointed at is
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_8142605/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm
There is a lot of interesting information among the posts. feel free to ignore and "attitude" you may detect - they aren't Mayhemmers
A lot of the detail I don't understand - I never expect to drive a helicopter!
andrew

lasatalayas · « **Reply #6 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:22:17 AM »

Thanks everyone for your help.
I've now got it working okay.
My problem was caused by the servos sent me with the Tx/Rx having a plastic extrusion on the side the plug which meant they could only go in the worng way round. I matched the battery connector to have the same orientation which of course was then also wrong.
Having now shaved the extrusion and connected everything the other way round all now works as it should.
Unfortunately the instructions supplied with the set were a little unclear and could do with some improvement.

lasatalayas · « **Reply #7 on:** February 13, 2009, 12:24:41 PM »

Having got my system working I hope these pictures may be of help to others.

barryfoote · « **Reply #8 on:** February 13, 2009, 12:33:45 PM »

Ken,

Now those ares what I call useful instructions..

Martin (Admin) · « **Reply #9 on:** February 13, 2009, 01:33:31 PM »

Quote from: Footski on February 13, 2009, 12:33:45 PM

Now those ares what I call useful instructions..

Quite right! lessons to be learned there by some manufacturers!

pmdevlin · « **Reply #10 on:** February 15, 2009, 11:19:01 PM »

I have these, only done short testing so far, the instructions are pretty useless, however the same set is manufactured in other names, flysky being one of them. If you google flysky they have downloadable instructuions, which are quite good.

Couple of points to mention.

A lot of the programmes are designed for rc helicopters (I also fly these) so some of the terminology can be a bit confusing if you are not familiar with it. You keep your particular settings in a folder on your pc, so really model memory is infinite, you plug in the tx to the pc (lead supplied) and open the relevent folder!, so when you are at the lake, that is the setting you have. For a boat thats no problem really, as the sticks will be doing the same job (except if you have a programme/boat with different mixing?)

The left sick does not have "self centring", as a helicopter cannot have this, and there is a ratchet on it, so for boats, you have to open up the tx, take the ratchet off, and I used the self centre action of left and right on the throttle stick, and moved it to give self centring on the up/down travel on the left throttle stick (assuming you want standard uk mode 2 throttle on left).

I have made a disc that goes over the left stick, as the left/right movement now has no function. The disc has a slot, so the stick only goes up/down. THe riight stick is set up for rudder (left/right), but it also goes up /down, this is an extra channel, for me, this has no function yet, but I was thinking it could be used for twin screw mixing?
2 knobs on the top, I have set them up for turning a fire monitor, as they are proportional knobs. 2 switches on the top, I set these as firstly nav/cabin lights on and off, and the second for smoke generator on/off, or fire monitor pump, depending on the model.( I bought 2 receivers)

THe rx aerials are notoriously brittle, helicopter forums are recommending putting a blob of glue on them to make it stronger. When delivered the first rx was bound, it took minutes to bind the second rx. THe tx has a good quality feel to it (for the money). I do however want to do more testing before the set is used in a more expensive model. A friend bought a set at the same time, he has been testing in rc cars, and has said the range is shorter than that of his 40meg set, but I have not experienced this. Here is a short video of my youngest thrashing about with the turborix set (looks like there are no "splashes breaking the signal" )problems

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJIeAievxps

tigertiger · « **Reply #11 on:** February 19, 2009, 04:44:03 AM »

I cannot get the link to r2hobbies to work.
It may be becuase I am in China.

If others can, could somebody please tell if there is an email contact?
So I can email them.

Proteus · « **Reply #12 on:** February 19, 2009, 06:10:50 AM »

Its working hear http://r2hobbies.com/index.php

Proteus

lasatalayas · « **Reply #13 on:** February 19, 2009, 07:27:11 AM »

Email: cs@r2hobbies.com

tigertiger · « **Reply #14 on:** February 19, 2009, 07:56:38 AM »

Quote from: Proteus on February 19, 2009, 06:10:50 AM

Its working hear http://r2hobbies.com/index.php

Proteus

Hi Proteus

Maybe they are blocking china.
I get this message below.

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Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /index.php on this server.

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Apache Server at www.r2hobbies.com Port 80

tigertiger · « **Reply #15 on:** February 19, 2009, 07:57:28 AM »

Quote from: lasatalayas on February 19, 2009, 07:27:11 AM

Email: cs@r2hobbies.com

Thanks

djrobbo · « **Reply #16 on:** March 01, 2009, 03:20:57 PM »

Hi wideawake

i wouldnt hold your breath trying to find a c.e mark on the turborix set...
ive got the 40 meg f.m set......6 channels for about 30 squids including the postage.....and there aint no c.e mark unless its in chinese ..swahili ..or invisible ink...

on enquiring i was informed that the c.e mark is on the box.....well thats all right then...

Only problem ..............it came with no box

regards.............bob......( still looking )

wideawake · « **Reply #17 on:** March 01, 2009, 03:35:09 PM »

Hi Bob

No I wasn't holding my breath! In fact my comment about CE marking was rather tongue in cheek. I rather doubt that it'll be marked. It won't necessarily stop me using one but would certainly mean that I couldn't and wouldn't recommend it to anyone else.

I also want to explore the TX power since if the advertised 800mW is anything like true it's way over the permitted limit in the UK.

Cheers

Guy

craftysod · « **Reply #18 on:** March 01, 2009, 03:36:38 PM »

Bob
enlighten us so far,is it any good
Mark

djrobbo · « **Reply #19 on:** March 01, 2009, 03:53:44 PM »

Certainly is

works a treat..........haven't tried it with other radios yet as not sure if they would catch light when you power up

If it doesn.t cause trouble then certainly worth the price

regards bob

pmdevlin · « **Reply #20 on:** March 03, 2009, 11:14:48 PM »

sems to be a lot of controversy about if you are not spending hundreds of pounds then a product isnt up to the mark, my turborix set, in my hand now, is CE marked, so for all the sceptics, it does the job, at an affordable price, is ce marked, and same price as a budget 40mhz set with a lot less features.

Regarding the dx6i, This set is held in high regard with rc helicopter boys, but is it not a little "overcomplicated and fussy" for boat users?

pmdevlin · « **Reply #21 on:** March 03, 2009, 11:16:21 PM »

for anyone wondering, I have just inspected my turborix 2.4 set, it is CE marked.

tigertiger · « **Reply #22 on:** March 04, 2009, 01:51:56 AM »

I could not get the website in China.
This is because there is already another exclusive agent in China for certain products.

But I am now using a proxy so can see it.

craftysod · « **Reply #23 on:** March 04, 2009, 11:18:56 AM »

Is r2hobbies the only place to obtain these,fleabay only shows 1,p+p too high though
Mark

funtimefrankie · « **Reply #24 on:** March 04, 2009, 11:36:34 AM »

Quote from: craftysod on March 04, 2009, 11:06:37 AM

Where is the best place to get a turborix set then,only one place i can find and the postage,
doubles the price
Mark

http://www.alebproducts.com/proddetail.php?prod=radioset002

£52.89 all in, just ordered one, don't tell the wife.

pmdevlin · « **Reply #25 on:** March 04, 2009, 09:01:40 PM »

just be careful with your windows operating system on the pc if you are getting a turborix set, windows vista is currently not compatable, but they are wiorking on it. I got mine fromr2hobbies.com, bought 2, one for a friend, so shared the postage, and didnt get hit for import tax as I asked them to say it was a gift.

now, something to consider, gave the turborix its first good test, everything was fine, but the range was less than my zebra 40mhz set. It has a built in signal loss shut down, so no probs with loss of signal. I am rubbuish at distances, but if you are familiar with Newsham Park lake in Liverpool, at the widest point, I lost signal almost one bank to the other. We then wondered how much extra signal the second receiver was achieving, so disconnected it, and found that the range was exactly the same, with one receiver. The disconnected one was positioned very low (almost below waterline) at the stern, so will have to try it higher in hull then the range might be improved. In my haste getting it out, ( and very sticky velcro holding it in!)I broke a wire, so could not try to reposition it.

pmdevlin · « **Reply #26 on:** March 04, 2009, 09:05:10 PM »

unfortunately this thread has sort of split, more turborix info on "not happy with dx6" in general section, sorry about that

Anyway, I gave it a good test today, range not marvelous, but could have been position of the 2nd receiver, look on the other thread for more results

I got mine from r2hobbies.com, turborix set also known as flysky, try googling that

wideawake · « **Reply #27 on:** March 04, 2009, 09:23:25 PM »

Quote from: pmdevlin on March 04, 2009, 09:01:40 PM

just be careful with your windows operating system on the pc if you are getting a turborix set, windows vista is currently not compatable, but they are wiorking on it.

Rats, I didn't know that. I've got mine but not had a good look at it yet. I may have to fire up an ancient W2000 desktop machine then. Not much use at the pond-side

However I did discover by googling around various forums that a couple of people are working on Pocket PC versions of the set-up program. Once I've got a bit more time I'll investigate that further.

Cheers

Guy

tigertiger · « **Reply #28 on:** March 05, 2009, 12:56:42 AM »

A small number of posts have been merged in from the 'not happy with DX6i' thread
The computer system has done this in date/time order.
Sorry for any loss in continuity.

pmdevlin · « **Reply #29 on:** March 05, 2009, 04:30:56 PM »

sorry, I have lost the person who posted the question "does the turborix set need setting up on a pc everytime" or something similar, from the "not happy with dx6 merge" (I know what I mean!!)

You can set up the parameters on a limitless amount of folders on your pc, then plug into pc, and grab the folder you want, these "presets" are then your tx settings, plus obviously the mechanical subtrims on the tx.

So, setting servo throw etc must be done via pc. Its quite clever, however, it is a none digital display set, and really needs to be treated as a budget 40mhz set,( these sets will not have servo throw etc adjustments anyway) but more channels (via 2 proportional knobs, and 2 flick switches), and the obvious advantage of no frequency clash, its no more than that, and for the money, you cant really expect much else

They are really designed for rc planes and helis, hence some of the features, and certainly the terminology, are rc heli. I have noticed that the rweceivers are a bit fragile, so need to be mounted securely

tigertiger · « **Reply #30 on:** March 16, 2009, 03:38:58 AM »

Quote from: pmdevlin on March 04, 2009, 09:01:40 PM

...I lost signal almost one bank to the other. We then wondered how much extra signal the second receiver was achieving,...one was positioned very low (almost below waterline) at the stern...

This is probably your problem.
2.4 GHz does not pass through water, unlike 27 MHz and 40 MHz.

So possibly, once the boat was far away to lose direct line of sight with one of the antenna, your problems began.

tugs46 · « **Reply #31 on:** March 16, 2009, 08:59:41 AM »

Am I correct to assume that one doesn't need to use both receivers??
Pardon my ignorance, but I'm new to the 2.4ghz thing

Also, do the little 'wee' antennas have to be vertical or horizontal??

funtimefrankie · « **Reply #32 on:** March 16, 2009, 09:02:12 AM »

Quote from: funtimefrankie on March 04, 2009, 11:36:34 AM

Quote from: craftysod on March 04, 2009, 11:06:37 AM
Where is the best place to get a turborix set then,only one place i can find and the postage,
doubles the price
Mark
javascript:void(0);
http://www.alebproducts.com/proddetail.php?prod=radioset002

£52.89 all in, just ordered one, don't tell the wife.

Hum....
Still not arrived after nearly two weeks. Can't recommend this firm at the moment............

tugs46 · « **Reply #33 on:** March 16, 2009, 02:36:26 PM »

Mine came from R2Hobbies, and took about 2.5 weeks to arrive.
I was able to track it, and the 'hold-up' was at the Customs Clearance Depot, where it sat for 8 days or so.

It did come as advertised and 'Duty-Free'

I must say that the firm seems to care about what they sell, and who they sell it to, as they sent me numerous emails.

They claim to have a 'Vista' compatable CD coming out this week.

** Oh yes....I forgot to mention that it came with two $5.00 cash coupons; redemable on furthar puchases

wideawake · « **Reply #34 on:** March 16, 2009, 04:46:52 PM »

Quote from: tugs46 on March 16, 2009, 08:59:41 AM

Am I correct to assume that one doesn't need to use both receivers??
Pardon my ignorance, but I'm new to the 2.4ghz thing

Also, do the little 'wee' antennas have to be vertical or horizontal??

WRT the receivers, you don't get the choice AFAIK. The two are joined together.

WRT antenna orientation, ideally one should be vertical and the other horizontal but it ain't critical at the ranges we use. It does pay to get the receivers as high as possible and above the waterline. The tiny second receiver unit should make this much easier.

HTH

Guy

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