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Re: 1/72 Foxtrot Kit
« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2010, 03:34:34 am »

HMS Holland 1 looks cool.
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Re: 1/72 Foxtrot Kit
« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2010, 05:04:15 am »

Rick does some very nice work, doesn't he? 
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Re: 1/72 Foxtrot Kit
« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2010, 06:17:35 am »

One of America's greatest inventions.... duct (or duck) tape.

Just picking up on the duct tape 'plating', could you give us (me) more retails please...
1, Is it applied in strips or plates?
2. How is the rivet detail accomplished?
3. Duct tape is quite 'soft' (cloth based in Britain), isn't it prone to wear, tear * damage?
4. How is it waterproofed / sealed?

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Re: 1/72 Foxtrot Kit
« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2010, 06:38:03 am »

Martin,

I would recommend you contact Rick Palumbo directly for this since he's the artist building the kit. 

Its a common practice using tape for detailing a master plug.  Steve Neill did the same technique using 2 mill aluminum foil tape which I posted 1-1/2 years ago on the BK1125 thread:

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=9051.0

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Re: 1/72 Foxtrot Kit
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2010, 09:31:09 am »

Looks like it's only being used to create the detailed "Riveted" and "panel lined" surface for the master F/G plug Martin. The cloth based silvery coloured tape that you are reffering to Martin is not the one shown in Herrmills photos. If you check with specialist suppliers, the one shown is self adhesive Alumininininium foil on a roll about 38 - 50mm wide. THIS was the original "Duct Tape" used in the ducted warm air heating trade for sealing the round and rectangular metal duct joints.

  Regards  Ian.

  Think you may also get it from "Tune up" motorist stores, used for "Sealing" exhaust systems.
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Re: 1/72 Foxtrot Kit
« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2010, 09:38:26 am »

Ian,

You're spot on with your comments.  I guess one could use it for detailing a one-off build but this is being used strictly for the master plug.

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Re: 1/72 Foxtrot Kit
« Reply #31 on: January 22, 2010, 12:18:01 pm »

Might be OK for a static model, but could be  too soft for a bank basher.

  Regards  Ian.
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Re: 1/72 Foxtrot Kit
« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2010, 11:58:34 pm »

Hull molds are done & production's about to start for those who placed a deposit on the kit once the initial build is complete.  Props have been outsourced to David Merriman to speed up production & first glimpse of David's work looks fantastic! 

Gantu sent us some new photos for reference on detailing the Foxtrot. For those not on the distribution list send me a PM with your email & I'll be happy to forward the 70+ photos & drawings that I received.











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Re: 1/72 Foxtrot Kit
« Reply #33 on: February 04, 2010, 08:18:53 am »

Rick sent in a new photo as he prepares to make the tower mold. In case I hadn't mentioned before, deck & vents will be photo etch.

I was privy to several emails on the prop / scopes / mast work that David's doing & have to say what you'll see once the photos come in will blow your socks off!

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Re: 1/72 Foxtrot Kit
« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2010, 09:01:33 am »

Here are photos of the prop work that's underway by the master himself.

Masts, scopes & other fittings will are soon to follow.






















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Re: 1/72 Foxtrot Kit
« Reply #35 on: February 16, 2010, 03:45:27 am »

Here are a few photos of David's work on the masters for the Foxtrot masts. 

You can read David's "cabel report" on the original build thread over at RCG: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1112097&page=8













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Re: 1/72 Foxtrot Kit
« Reply #36 on: February 16, 2010, 11:50:30 am »

More photos from Mr. Meriman of the radar mast. Not bad, eh?



















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Re: 1/72 Foxtrot Kit
« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2010, 04:38:22 am »

Aside from the photo etch decks & vents & the fittings Dave's currently working, the Foxtrot is essentially done.

Here are a couple photos of the buoys Rick sent late last week.



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Re: 1/72 Foxtrot Kit
« Reply #38 on: January 06, 2011, 02:57:06 am »

For those patient enough to wait, David sent out an email last week advising he's back on the project & expects to have tooling completed within the next few weeks. Here's an excerpt & photos from his email for those not on the mailing list:

A number of months ago I took on the job of producing the 'fittings kits' for this product. After considerable delay, I'm back on the job and will prepare a proper Cabal Report on the continuing effort, where I'll better detail the work.

As you can see, I'm going whole-hog on this project. A number of decades ago a ship I was on, towing a barge across the Mediterranean, was shadowed by one of Omar's FOXTROT's, so this boat is near and dear to me...

Anyway, I'm putting the rest of the holiday in on this project and hope to have tooling by the first week of the new year.

Thanks for hanging in there with me, guys.

David,


I'm excited to see that the kit is getting closer to completion. Feel free to contact Rick at RPM Tech for more info.








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Re: 1/72 Foxtrot Kit
« Reply #39 on: January 06, 2011, 02:57:51 am »

Another update from David:

Lots of work done on the FOXTROT sail today -- all of it internal: finished the bridge platforms, soldered brass ladders, most of the frames and stringers, and refined the internal shape of the GRP sail to make things look a bit more business like.
 
Tomorrow I finish the frames and stringers, complete the mast lift cylinder upper flanges, detail the ESM/ECM antenna, and get to the deck mounted folding antenna.


Happy New Year!  :D













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Re: 1/72 Foxtrot Kit
« Reply #40 on: January 06, 2011, 02:59:04 am »

Some new pics from David of his work on the bridge.  :-))















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Re: 1/72 Foxtrot Kit
« Reply #41 on: January 06, 2011, 03:00:21 am »

And here are shots of Rick's prototype retract mechanism for the bow planes based on what he's done earlier for Kilo.  Fox retract is shown on the right of the Kilo's & in the second photo.

Last is of the shaft housings that will be molded in the hull.





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Re: 1/72 Foxtrot Kit
« Reply #42 on: January 06, 2011, 03:01:35 am »

Lastly, here's David's latest installment as be begins work on a new SubDriver WTC designed specifically for the Fox.  This guy will do anything to meet a deadline!
 
OK, guys, here's another look at the work I'm doing on the FOXTROT project. I have every confidence that you will have no problem following along, as I'm fond of observing to others: My readers are a pretty sharp group of guys, the cream of the crop, actually. I can't say that enough ... honestly!
 

 
Desperate situations demand desperate measures! The damn Taig lathe belt broke last week and I can't do any heavy turning with it till the replacement belt arrives. I've been making do with rubber bands ... that's right, rubber-bands! ... but when the time came today to turn a RenShape master of the FOXTROT motor bulkhead, sized to fit a 2.5" Lexan cylinder, the Taig was simply not up to it.
 
So, I put the little drill press on its side, pressed a gel-cell battery into service as the foundation of a tool rest, chucked up a 1/4-20 machine-bolt used to hold the work, and spun a hunk of RenShape into shape. It isn't pretty, boys and girls, but it works!
 

 
OSHA standards?! ... we don't need no stinking OSHA standard!
 

 
Using the shop drawing I prepared of the FOXTROT SubDriver motor bulkhead to guide me as I took the work to the critical diameters.
 

 
Turning work on the drill press... err ... lath requires the insertion of a good firm mandrel through the work -- that was accomplished by drilling a hole through the center of a RenShape blank hacked out on the band saw, taping the hole for a 1/4-20 bolt, inserting the bolt, and making things fast at each end so the mandrel can't rotate within the work. Then its a simple matter to spin the work and do your worst.
 
This is a close-up of the shop drawing of the proposed FOXTROT motor bulkhead. The trick was to come up with a three-motor arrangement. It turned out that a motor bulkhead sized to fit a 2.5" cylinder would be big enough to accommodate three 280 sized motors. And the good news was that these motors -- employing the German formula: you can direct-drive a propeller providing the propeller diameter does not exceed the motor can diameter significantly -- were only a tad smaller in diameter than the propeller each would spin. Simplicity at its finest!
 

 
Showing off the ass-end of Rick's magnificent hull -- this is the business end where the three propellers swing in the breeze. Above, you see some of the components that go into the WTC/SubDriver that will be developed specifically for Rick's FOXTROT. The one unique item, to what will in all other characteristics be a 'standard' 2.5" SubDriver, is the use of the three-motor motor bulkhead -- seen here in the form of a tooling master. Tonight the first half of that rubber tool is curing -- tomorrow morning will see creation of the second half of that tool, And by late afternoon I'll have some pre-production cast resin parts in hand.

Tomorrow night I'll have the first pre-production FOXTROT SubDriver in hand.
 

 
The SubDriver I'm producing is but one option for the eventual FOXTROT customer: Rick will produce his own WTC, featuring an ingenious floating-piston ballast sub-system and hoists for retractable masts.
 
Now, it's back to the Caswell work and a long promised re-visit of a RTR USS MIAMI, and some SKY-DIVER master making.
 
Busy, busy ...
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Re: 1/72 Foxtrot Kit : Photo Etch
« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2011, 02:47:04 am »

Here's a preview of the photo etch for decks & grating. 

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Re: 1/72 Foxtrot Kit - Hull, SubDriver & Torpedo Fit
« Reply #44 on: February 16, 2011, 06:47:45 am »

Here are some photos that David sent out today as he preps the hull for running gear & accessories.

As requested by those who first proposed a kit, the hull will be split horizontally at the waterline to allow full access.  As you can see, there will be plenty of room for running gear & torpedo launchers should you want to go all out with this beast.

David's prototype Sub-Driver™ for the Fox with its 3 direct drive motors which will include an ESC on the central shaft that will kick in at 75% power for full ahead & astern applications.  Anything under that, the port & starboard shafts would be turning just like the real thing which will also go a long way towards conserving your battery power. 











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Re: 1/72 Foxtrot Kit
« Reply #45 on: February 18, 2011, 06:31:59 am »

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Re: 1/72 Foxtrot Kit
« Reply #46 on: March 21, 2011, 11:59:07 am »

For those following this thread, the PE is finished & parts are being fabricated for the kit.  Rick is currently modifying the hull to make it as upper/lower sections with flange split on the waterline.

David Merriman is currently building the prototype hull & will be posting one of his entertaining Cabel Reports on Caswell's Sub-Driver forum in the coming weeks.

In the meantime, you can see some of David's work on the Foxtrot in the new Sub-Driver Gazette that's available as a free PDF download via the link below:

The-Sub-Driver-Gazette
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