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Re: SS Ohio tanker build, Pedestal convoy.
« Reply #75 on: January 10, 2011, 10:05:06 AM »

fitting extra buoyancy can be used but only works if the buoyancy is in the water , and the racing boys and girls put buoyancy in their boats in case they have a racing incident to keep their boats afloat if they take on water.Any way any one heared the old saying...... K.I.S.S

                                       
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Re: SS Ohio tanker build, Pedestal convoy.
« Reply #76 on: January 10, 2011, 11:55:30 AM »

Nice to see active discussion on the subject. Not sure upon first reading of the requirement for pot noodles! Second reading makes more sense.
Can I make one thing clear to everyone... IT WILL NOT SINK. Trust me!!
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« Reply #77 on: January 10, 2011, 12:57:34 PM »

is'nt that what they said about the titanic


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Re: SS Ohio tanker build, Pedestal convoy.
« Reply #78 on: January 10, 2011, 01:40:28 PM »

Some pix of a nice Ohio model here:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1142176&page=3#post17050587

Still try to determine if it is a builder's model. Would be a nice reference if so, so far I've only found G/A plans for the Ohio (courtesy Mr. Wyatt of Malta, who has built several Ohios).
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« Reply #79 on: January 10, 2011, 05:17:37 PM »

hi Pat thank you for the information will come in handy for when we build the superstructure    :-)) :-)) :-))

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« Reply #80 on: January 10, 2011, 09:42:05 PM »

its not so much the ohio might sink , more a concern that the escort ships being taken down by the tanker should a problem arise ! think they call it covering all possibilities ? as we ALL know surface models dont run too well below the surface of the lake , espesially destroyers ! !
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Re: SS Ohio tanker build, Pedestal convoy.
« Reply #81 on: January 10, 2011, 11:29:18 PM »

hi Pat thank you for the information will come in handy for when we build the superstructure    :-)) :-)) :-))

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My pleasure. A few posts prior to the one I linked to, find photos of the Texaco Oklahoma under construction... she's a sister to Ohio.
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Re: SS Ohio tanker build, Pedestal convoy.
« Reply #82 on: January 12, 2011, 11:00:51 AM »

hi every one here's some pics of us putting the sides on the back section of the tanker, how many clamps can you count

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« Reply #83 on: January 12, 2011, 11:36:58 AM »

Now THAT is some robust ships side!

A fitting tribute to the builders of the original ship. Almost bombproof and sturdy protection against even the worst of destroyer skippers manoeuvring alongside!

BTW, is there a safeguard against over pumping the ballasted section?  Wouldn't want to pressurise that compartment and force the plating.


Very good creative project, well done the team. :-))
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« Reply #84 on: January 12, 2011, 12:05:28 PM »

I'm just one of the monkeys the technical stuff I'll leave to the back room boy's, but it probably be an air vent on the Deck to let the air out but high enough not to let the water in...................K.I.S.S

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« Reply #85 on: January 13, 2011, 09:04:52 PM »

Doe's anyone now the loaded freeboard for the Ohio, just asking out of interest, that is the distance between her main deck and loadline.
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« Reply #86 on: January 13, 2011, 09:34:57 PM »

is the model having a load line ? i get the impression she will be running decks awash , with the centre section of the hull full of water !
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« Reply #87 on: January 13, 2011, 10:19:01 PM »

If you see any photo's of her plus a short movie film taken of her entry into Malta, she would appear to be down to her loadline. But if she was main deck level after the initial attack you are talking about 3 foot above her loadline, but I believe she had a hit in her engine room which put out her m/engine plus splinter damage to deck etc. I do not know what her damage was but she did break her back after discharge, but that can be caused by incorrect method of discharge stressing the hull already stressed by bomb damage to hull structure etc, as I have never seen a damage survey report on her.
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« Reply #88 on: January 14, 2011, 11:56:57 AM »

Hi Old Dode's   as to the distance of loaded freeboard to her main deck i do not no, but i will have a word with unbuilt and ask him as he has the plans for this build and he can work it out for you. As to this model having a load line painted on is a good question if the real one had one then we would pot one on as well. But we will git to that at a latter date as we have enough things to do as it is.

So getting on with things here's some more pic's

my not be the best way or the neatest way of modeling but it's working for us

 



this is what we are going to use to sink and hope to raise the tanker with

 

if you can see it in the pic's the start of the water proofing

this is meant to be the start of the bow {:-{

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« Reply #89 on: January 14, 2011, 12:07:42 PM »

I was just asking as it would give you a good reference point to start from, for working out the ups and down distance of the model for your display. After all all merchant men have them including RFA's.
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« Reply #90 on: January 14, 2011, 12:34:05 PM »

Old Dode's   i don't think we are that bothered about the start point as long as it looks right on the water at the start and at the end of the display
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« Reply #91 on: January 14, 2011, 06:25:39 PM »

More action at the building slip;

You people have driven me to this!! Forcing airflow into a smoke unit, in this case the Hunter Systems one. I did not inhale!!

J Perkins S04 1/4 scale servo fitted for rudder control.



The flexiply stern part being test fitted.
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Re: SS Ohio tanker build, Pedestal convoy.
« Reply #92 on: January 14, 2011, 06:30:44 PM »

Buttoning up the stern section;

First to go in is the builders insulation foam, for to keep the beast afloat, at all times!!

Then we accidentally snap the flexipy in half and look on sheepishly as the plan changes!



Finally the G Clamp tree comes out to play, look, a tank in our boat thread, unheard of %)
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« Reply #93 on: January 14, 2011, 06:35:28 PM »

Angle grinder is our friend!!

Also 1" brass nails and hammer!! It aint pretty, yet..

Bow section, starting with an oak strip..

Followed by two mahogany blocks..

looks like ankle grinder will have to be our friend again next time :-))
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« Reply #94 on: January 14, 2011, 08:32:43 PM »

see you can down load your photo's it's not that hard is or did you have help from a friend {-) {-) {-) ;D :P
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« Reply #95 on: January 14, 2011, 11:10:48 PM »

Mores the question, when is the planned launch, I want to come over and see it after so much natter on it.
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Re: SS Ohio tanker build, Pedestal convoy.
« Reply #96 on: January 15, 2011, 05:21:00 PM »

If you see any photo's of her plus a short movie film taken of her entry into Malta, she would appear to be down to her loadline. But if she was main deck level after the initial attack you are talking about 3 foot above her loadline, but I believe she had a hit in her engine room which put out her m/engine plus splinter damage to deck etc. I do not know what her damage was but she did break her back after discharge, but that can be caused by incorrect method of discharge stressing the hull already stressed by bomb damage to hull structure etc, as I have never seen a damage survey report on her.

The Ohio was torpedoed midships  quite early in the action, leaving a 25' x 30' hole in the side. She then suffered a number of very near misses from bombs which put further major stresses on the hull. A bomb hit the ship in aproximately the same place as the torpedo hit which almost definately resulted in the ship breaking its back. A further hit on the bows resulted in fires that were quickly extinguished. A Ju87 dive bomber and Ju88 bomber also crashed onto the ship during the action. She was decks awash as she approached the minefield outside Valletta harbour but her main deck appears to be about 3' above the sea in the photo of her entering the harbour. The crew were also forced to abandon ship twice during the voyage, both times electing to re-join the ship when she failed to sink. Quite an achievement, i think.
As far as load waterlines etc, I will check our drawings and report back...
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« Reply #97 on: January 15, 2011, 05:23:40 PM »

Mores the question, when is the planned launch, I want to come over and see it after so much natter on it.

The plan is to present a comlete display at the Weymouth model weekend in July ( on the Sunday ). I hope the model will be in the water by late May :-))

Probably %%
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« Reply #98 on: January 17, 2011, 09:40:39 PM »

Is there any plan to try her out in Pompey, like canoe lake, I would really like to see her.
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« Reply #99 on: January 17, 2011, 09:46:15 PM »

Just thought, the crew would return if she did not sink, for no other reason that when they abandon a ship, they go off pay. Because in the merchant navy you sign on the ship for the voyage only, once off the owners stop pay immediately.
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