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[mark_1984]

Thanks Dave, it certainly looks the biz.

[berth44]

Left them in the sun too long Mark and the glue went hard...oops!!! Applied some more and worked on them just as they turned clear. Done a wee modification, took about 1/4 inch of the glue off the rear of the barrel, then worked it forward to the part where it fits into the turret front, doing this reduces the size of the 'bumfle'....Dave

[duttydozen]

FINIIIIISHED.
I enjoyed that.
Cheers for the welcome,by the way,Peter.


I must admit i almost 'lost it'once or twice but i'm glad i stuck with it.
 

Gary

[Peter Fitness]

Cheers for the welcome,by the way,Peter.

My pleasure, it's good to have you aboard. Nice job of Bismarck, too.

What's that other one on the wall shelf?

Peter.

[berth44]

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all....Dave

[mark_1984]

Merry Christmas everybody,

May your stocking be full of models !

Best wishes
Mark

[mark_1984]

In a desperate attempt to put Martin to shame I've managed to continue with my build and updated my web site !

http://www.buildthebismarck.co.uk/modelframe.htm

[reefrich]

Love the detail, you have created!

[Wasyl]

I have to applaud all of you,who built this Bismarck,its my favourite ship,..i too have now got one,but i took the easy road to get it,I bought one off ebay,as this was the only way i,d ever get one,as i can,t build,..she will sit nicely with my recently purchased 1/200 Prinz Eugen,

Well done

Wullie

[dano48]

Greetings, and a Happy New Year !! to all, I'm Richard, I have been following this forum for some time now , and would like to thank every body involved in this build it has given me a much needed heads up on the construction of the model , I have just received issue 131, although I have not started to build it yet due to to many other projects , this is my first model, hopefully won't be my last ,I am waiting to get the lot,  then I will start on the remote controlled model, I would like to ask a couple of 4 questions mainly directed at Dave (berth44), or other Aussies, I live in Brisbane, and would like to know,
1) if the paint codes referred to in the magazine are ready available in Australia,
2) and they mention for the R/C model polyurethane paint for the hull, can you get that in model paints?, if not, what similar colour?
3)what sort of water proof wood glue did you use,
4)two part filler? 
If you'd be kind enough to give me some brand names, I will source them out,
Keep up the good work,
Kind regards, Richard

[Peter Fitness]

Hi Richard, and welcome to the forum from me, here in little old Lennox Head, in cockroach country  Just an outlying suburb of Brisbane really, it's only 2 hours drive away 

Hopefully some other Aussie members (berth44?) will be able to answer your questions. Concerning glue, I normally use cyano such as Zap, for most woodwork, but occasionally use Selley's Aquadhere exterior grade PVA, which has given good results. I also use Araldite in high stress situations. The secret is to thoroughly waterproof the hull after construction, if it is completely waterproof it doesn't really matter which glue you use, in my opinion.

Are you a member of a club, or are you flying solo?

Peter.

[dano48]

Hi Peter, thanks for your reply , cockroach country?, I think some got away from your town mate , I am sailing solo, I have seen some models from the Logan club and I have spoken to members , but as yet do not belong to any club, between work and my other hobbies, I don't really have the time to join, can't wait for retirement , regarding the glues I always thought that cyano(super glue?), was more for non porous surfaces, I know that there are some thicker than others but I thought there are better ones for wood, By waterproofing the hull do you mean paint? or fibreglass, then paint?,or some other type?
Cheers, Richard.

[Martin (Admin)]

Hi Richard,
 Welcome to the forum a, welcome to your Bismarck build..... "You vill do as you are told!"
  (Is that still in bad taste these days?!)

1) if the paint codes referred to in the magazine are ready available in Australia,
   Depending what type of paint you want to use (car spray, modeling (Tamiya etc.) enamels (tinlets), house paint, use
    whatever looks closest to the colour in the magazine!

2) and they mention for the R/C model polyurethane paint for the hull, can you get that in model paints?, if not, what similar colour?
   As above, choose how you are going to finish you hull first, (sanding sealer, resin, sealant, epoxy) and then  decide how
    you want to paint that.

3)what sort of water proof wood glue did you use,
   Evo-stick watherproof wood adhesive & Unibond Exterior.

4)two part filler?  
   Car body filler Isopon P38 etc.

Have you seen my "build"? - http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4024.msg39250#msg39250

[dano48]

Ya vol my Commandant , Tanks Martin, you did welcome me before, a couple of years ago I think, yes I have been following your built, that's what got me started in the forum from google , and I like your sense of humor , and then you stopped, ,  I do want to use the model paints, maybe some one can recommend the best way to finish the hull, before painting, some of the brand names you mention, I don't know if I will find them here, that's why I ask  for some Aussie feedback, they will be easier to source, sorry if I am being a pain but I am new to boat modeling and want to do it right first time, thanks again,
Cheers, Richard.

[Martin (Admin)]

I'm planning to sand my hull to shape and paint with umteen coats of sanding sealer.

[steamboatbob]

hi richard

from another aussie to another

the superglues i use are
UHU Super (very thick for large brass bits ) from Officeworks
Zap (thin for the fine brass bits) from most hobby stores
Waterproof PVA
Titebond 3 Ultimate
All the major hull framework i used Araldite 24hr
and will be finishing it off in epoxy resin (fibreglass resin does the same job)
and ill try to dig up a paint chart for youi know i have one somewhare in this stupid computer it tells you the best matching paints from different hobby brands to the RAL Number

and the two part filler i just used car body filler and used a very small amount of hardener

PM me if you run into probs 

[dano48]

Thanks Steamboatbob,  that gives me a very usefull reference where to start, I still have a couple of months before I get the last parts of it, I will get all the goodies ready, the only thing I'm not sure is how to use the epoxy resin or fiberglass, but I have some time to go before I get to that stage, so I'll do my home work with google and see what happens, thanks Mate , Richard.

[steamboatbob]

I for one will be starting once I have all the parts sent out to me then im not waiting on next months supply to keep me interested

[dano48]

Yeah, that's what I'm waiting for  , regarding your paint colour chart, I found this on the net, http://www.paint4models.com/paintchart/paintconversionchart20100101.html#, is a reference to different brands and their equivalents, very impressive I thought, 

[WillemNdeJong]

Dear Martin,

My name is Willem de Jong, I live in Haarlem (Holland) and as a former Dutch Navy man I am building the Dutch cruiser Hr.Ms. DeRuyter C801 from original drawings. As I have no routine in modelbuilding I took the opportunity to build the Bismarck first to learn from it. In this respect I enthusiastically followed your whereabouts  the Bismarck. But than it was necessary to join the forum to see the images going along with the building. Being a complete dummy with computer things I lost it. Could you please tell me what to do to follow your building again. I would very much appreciate that.
Thanking you in advance for your answer,

Kind regards,
Willem

[Martin (Admin)]

 I hope to get going with the Bismarck again later this year... I took on a Graupner
Pegasus build for some and have regretted nearly every minute of it.  

[bubbles]

yes £4.99 per mag and theres 147 issues i've started it got about 40 issues left to go.

[jedonic]

I have been reading with intrest all the comments about the Bismark model, well I guess I may be fortunate as I am up to issue 138 "and all is well"  no shortages or wrong parts and all bits have fitted perfactly, painting has been completed and all that is left is the final assembly.  So don"t be disharted to much it will work out ok, my only negative comment there are a resonable amount of etched brass parts left over that ane not placed on the model, I can"see the reason for that, but so far so good.
I am in Australia and have had no trouble with the issues all have been on time and complete. Ian.

[Martin (Admin)]

 Well done sir! Any photos?

[jedonic]

Just received issue 137 of the Bismark and all is well everything fits no shortages etc looking great
Jedonic

[Skidmarks]

Have painted hull with a Humbol 'primer 1' grey acrylic aerosol spray and just finished the main mast but feel that to use an aerosol on that will not give a sufficiently fine spray for such an intricate part and no doubt lots more the same!?. So, have lashed out on an airbrush but cannot get a 'primer 1' in the Humbrol 12ml range, just a #64.  Seems to me I will be using lots of 12ml tins so do you know of a UK suppleire of larger than 12ml tins of acrylic paint please?

[taffy52]

Hi the robbe sub build has brrn put on the back burner, picked up the hatchette bismarck all 140 issues plus partly built boat, glues, paint etc for £40 did have to do a 300 mile round trip to collect but still worth it,good old ebay,may have to repaint some parts but planking all done and super structure done too,

[Martin (Admin)]

£40???? 

[Dave stone]

Hello all.
 I have been lurking in the background here for some time and have been working on my own build of the Bismarck.

I have a few questions on the R/C end of things.

I have decided not to get the R/C kit that comes at added cost with this model and intend to get this gear myself.

The Question I have is what would you recommend and since it is not the R/C gear that comes with the Model what modifications will I need to do to fit her out?

I tended to build plastic kits around 1/350 scale so the photo etch, and scratch building etc is nothing new to me but the R/C end of things is.

Ps: I hope that all made sense.


Thanks Dave

[mark_1984]

It's difficult to answer as there are quite a few options.  E.g.  Gears or direct drive motors, 2 or 3 motors, etc.  However, there is some quite good info over on my Bismarck forum.  Have a look at this section of the forum http://buildthebismark.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=markus

Cheers
Mark

[Dave stone]

thank you Mark I will take a look.
I think direct drive and only two motors would be the best idea as I think the wight of three would have her sitting low in the water and she really has no need of the extra speed the third motor would give her 

[mark_1984]

I don't think the weight will be a problem, but as you say, she doesn't really need the extra power, and it's quite tricky fitted a centre line motor ans the shaft has to go through the keel.  Personally I'm going to fit the Hachette motors, but have lowered them to get a more scale appearance,  I'm also fitting scale props and rudders.  Two speed controllers and an on board V-tail mixer will give some differential steering by varying the motor speed to overcome the limited steering from the scale rudders.

Other people on my forum have fitted direct drive motors with 2 or 3 motors, so you should find some useful info.

[Dave stone]

hmmm interesting. Maybe I should get the kit R/C setup as I have not worked with R/C before it maybe a good ideea to wprk with a kit that explains things step by step  

lol Ah decisions

either way I have a few part fit issues to solve yet but I do not see that as much of a problem after the hell I went through getting a twist out of the bow area.
I almost feel it would have been better to get full length planks to do the hull so there was never a chance for it to happen in the first place.

May have just been me but I have the feeling I am not the only one who has had this happen.

Three small pics of a build I have just fin... sorryb they are small as they are off my cell phone

[cbr900]

I have searched many sites and photos showing the Bismarck main guns forward,
no one photo shows the siting gun mounted on the upper forward gun that is shown
in the Hatchette plans, what is everyone's opinion on this dilemma...........

Roy

[Martin (Admin)]

Not sure which gun you're referring to, which issue are the parts in?