Topic: Build the Bismarck - a "Hachett" job? (Read 210691 times)

banjo · « **on:** February 22, 2007, 10:21:30 PM »

Anyone seen this advert?

Comments?

riggers24 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 22, 2007, 10:25:38 PM »

At £5 a shot and 100 issues

No thanks

Colin Bishop · « **Reply #2 on:** February 22, 2007, 10:40:03 PM »

They'll probably go out of business halfway through planking the hull.

Stavros · « **Reply #3 on:** February 22, 2007, 10:49:39 PM »

Nice idea but how many of thier so called free builds have ever been finished,well lets think a m8 of mine started to collect th bits from the same company to build the subaru rally cart what happened after x no of issues it was stopped I REST MY CASE

slewis · « **Reply #4 on:** February 22, 2007, 11:04:19 PM »

It WILL sell and make them a handsome profit into the margin .
I recall a similar thread raised on a model plane forum (most of them actually) about De Agostini and their part works with a Spitfire . This raised a lot of heated discussion as the Spitfire model is arguably not the easiest to fly when it complete , regardless who's kit it is .
As it transpires The distributors took on board ALL (and there were many thousands) of comments about it (they even went on Watchdog BBC) to make sure any builder to make aware that it was outside the scope of a newcomer without flying training.
Anyway I digress , I also think it will sell and sell well as more than the few will be able to afford to buy outright this model (maybe 40" by the pics ?) in one hit as it were and the option of a slow build at a fiver a week will appeal to some on limited income.
I reckon they will sell loads myself , I just hope that the majority of the buyers see it through and do a credible build

Oh and there were and are loads of the Deagostini Spitfires now doing the rounds up and down the country with the builders taking the idea on board that it may not of been a good choice for a first model an have taken on board the idea of joining a club and learning to fly first !
Lets hope this is a lesson learnt .

This I believe applies to boating as well before I am jumped upon !
I was actually looking at the model myself as it doesn't appear a bad un from the pics and a nice size as well , I doubt I could wait for each edition to come out though its toooooo long winded in my opinion.

Shane

gribeauval · « **Reply #5 on:** February 22, 2007, 11:25:12 PM »

Picked up the first part today. The Ship is 1/200 scale, 49ins long, 7in beam produced by Amati. The first hull sections contain some of the best laser cut ply I have come across in many years! I want to know where they get theirs from 'cause I want some!!!!!!

The fit of these parts is first class and if the rest is as good then it will be a superb model when finished. They also will be explaining how to add r/c for beginners if wanted.
140 parts to complete may be expensive overall but with limited funds it becomes affordable over the time period so I for one WILL be buying it. As for completing the series, all the other part works I bought have never ended before the last issue.

chingdevil · « **Reply #6 on:** February 22, 2007, 11:58:56 PM »

I built the Subaru car, took a long while to get all the issues, just about to sell it at a car boot sale. Never got round to using it

The other Brian

Big Mark · « **Reply #7 on:** February 23, 2007, 08:30:49 AM »

Watched the ad last night for the first time and it does look a very nice build BUT £700!!!! I know its a drip feed build at over 2 years in the making but that still seems VERY costly to me (perhapse I'm just tight)

mac.one · « **Reply #8 on:** February 23, 2007, 10:08:44 AM »

Hi all
Here's the link for the Bismarck Kit/Magazine. It's published by Hachette publications.

http://www.hachettepartworks.co.uk/product.php?proID=1172137511

Regards Julian.

DickyD · « **Reply #9 on:** February 23, 2007, 10:12:44 AM »

Quote from: mac.one on February 23, 2007, 10:08:44 AM

Hi all
Here's the link for the Bismarck Kit/Magazine. It's published by Hachette publications.

http://www.hachettepartworks.co.uk/product.php?proID=1172137511

Regards Julian.

That'll be why I couldn't find it then [wrong company] :-[

Richard

Ghost in the shell · « **Reply #10 on:** February 23, 2007, 12:21:36 PM »

give westbourne or amodelworld a call and they will send you an aeronaught bizmark for half the price, leaving the other half to save and get RC gear for said aeronaught kit, and you will be on the water in 6 months NOT 3 years!

tigertiger · « **Reply #11 on:** February 23, 2007, 01:30:27 PM »

Quote from: Ghost in the shell on February 23, 2007, 12:21:36 PM

... and you will be on the water in 6 months NOT 3 years!

Not me mate

I am way to slow,
spend to much time on here.

gribeauval · « **Reply #12 on:** February 23, 2007, 02:03:00 PM »

Quote from: Ghost in the shell on February 23, 2007, 12:21:36 PM

give westbourne or amodelworld a call and they will send you an aeronaught bizmark for half the price, leaving the other half to save and get RC gear for said aeronaught kit, and you will be on the water in 6 months NOT 3 years!

As I said not everybody can afford £300ish all in one go and to save that much would take as long as buying the part works so I will go the part works route!! As for taking so long to build, so what??, My big Mersey took me nearly three years to build and the Tyne has taken over 12 months so far, I am far happier with the building, problem solving of a model than sailing them. In fact after a couple of times sailing and checking that the model does what I intended it to do I loose interest in it and either sell it or burn it and start again on a new project!!

KenP · « **Reply #13 on:** February 23, 2007, 03:34:50 PM »

I'm like Gribeauval, enjoy the building bit, loose interest about the sailing bit.

anmo · « **Reply #14 on:** February 23, 2007, 03:51:18 PM »

Any chance of someone correcting that mis-spelling in the heading? It's Bismarck of course, I'm surprised Jörg hasn't said anything yet, he probably had an ancestor or two who went down with it.

Colin Bishop · « **Reply #15 on:** February 23, 2007, 04:34:02 PM »

I believe that when it was rediscovered they found that the stern had broken off so maybe the spelling is correct...

anmo · « **Reply #16 on:** February 23, 2007, 04:51:44 PM »

Quote from: Colin Bishop on February 23, 2007, 04:34:02 PM

I believe that when it was rediscovered they found that the stern had broken off so maybe the spelling is correct...

I suppose that if you missed one of the instalments, your model might end up the same way.

tigertiger · « **Reply #17 on:** February 23, 2007, 11:20:36 PM »

Quote from: anmo on February 23, 2007, 04:51:44 PM

Quote from: Colin Bishop on February 23, 2007, 04:34:02 PM
I believe that when it was rediscovered they found that the stern had broken off so maybe the spelling is correct...

I suppose that if you missed one of the instalments, your model might end up the same way.

Make sure it is all there.
I bought a part works Titanic and the tops of the bulkheads were missing. ::)
I'm just waiting for the inevitable

Pointy · « **Reply #18 on:** February 23, 2007, 11:23:45 PM »

Didn't the same magazine do a Titanic a few years back? The model was by Amati? I think thats the spelling, its an Italian company that mostly does static Nelson Navy stuff.

evo6tme · « **Reply #19 on:** February 24, 2007, 12:34:47 AM »

i`ve got the first issue and seems like a well made model if not expensive ? U can buy the titanic now from Amati for £350 , i think it cost £500 (100 issues at £5) . people have said thay might not finish the bismarck , 2.5 years is a long time, and anything can happen in publishing in that time, and that u can get a good model from elsware. The Aeronaught model looks pants from the pictures i`ve seen, so who makes the best ???

tigertiger · « **Reply #20 on:** February 24, 2007, 01:08:22 AM »

Quote from: evo6tme on February 24, 2007, 12:34:47 AM

i`ve got the first issue and seems like a well made model if not expensive ? U can buy the titanic now from Amati for £350 , i think it cost £500 (100 issues at £5) . people have said thay might not finish the bismarck , 2.5 years is a long time, and anything can happen in publishing in that time, and that u can get a good model from elsware. The Aeronaught model looks pants from the pictures i`ve seen, so who makes the best ???

Don't forget you do also get the magazine.

What is the content of the magazine like?
Any good?

rats · « **Reply #21 on:** February 24, 2007, 01:57:17 AM »

Bought the magazine today just for a look- 50p for first issue worth it just for the glue alone ! Agree with previous commentsabout the excellent laser cut wood also the instructions are clear and precise with fotos for each step ; just what a beginner would want. I know the total cost would be £700 but if it brought more people into this wonderfull hobby its achieved a lot !

gingyer · « **Reply #22 on:** February 24, 2007, 11:19:15 AM »

Hi there, I have a couple of questions
1) is the Bismarck going to be able to be radio controlled
2) somebody was saying the price was £350 for the Amati kit can you please tell me where did you found that out I looked and could not see a listing for the Amati kit not even there own website
3) I think the bismark on TV does look better than the aeronaut kit (with some allowances for a professional model builder)

I was just looking out of intrest, I went to buy issue 1 and as usual the local large newsagent was useless, how they are still in business is
beyond me so will have to go into the city to have a wee look

Colin

banjo · « **Reply #23 on:** February 24, 2007, 12:10:22 PM »

TigerTiger
Very droll !!!
It is a beaut..
didn't get the applause it deserved!!

Quote from: tigertiger on February 23, 2007, 11:20:36 PM

Make sure it is all there.
I bought a part works Titanic and the tops of the bulkheads were missing. ::)
I'm just waiting for the inevitable

herrmill · « **Reply #24 on:** February 24, 2007, 12:29:37 PM »

Tiger,

Let me know if that price includes the postage all the way from the UK!

Chuck

rats · « **Reply #25 on:** February 24, 2007, 12:38:52 PM »

Yes very funny tigertiger - didn't notice it - far too clever for me !!

Tom@Crewe · « **Reply #26 on:** February 25, 2007, 11:03:06 AM »

Any one with a pocket calculator would avoid these magazines what ever they offer.

Bismark Magazines 140 magazines @ £4.99 = £698.60

Anyone who gets it has more money than sense

Harry potter chess set was the same you can go a buy one at a fifth the price

gribeauval · « **Reply #27 on:** February 25, 2007, 03:15:38 PM »

Quote from: Tom@Crewe on February 25, 2007, 11:03:06 AM

Any one with a pocket calculator would avoid these magazines what ever they offer.

Bismark Magazines 140 magazines @ £4.99 = £698.60

Anyone who gets it has more money than sense

Harry potter chess set was the same you can go a buy one at a fifth the price

As I said earlier mate if you haven't got a large budget then this is the only way to go.It would take me a couple of years to save even half this amount, by which time inflation has pushed up kit prices anyway, so I will take this route. Its the same as the difference between paying cash or using a credit card, you always pay more for credit!!

Brian_C · « **Reply #28 on:** February 25, 2007, 06:17:08 PM »

the titanic kit they brought out a few yrs ago was about the same price,hellish expensive and half way though the the weekly bits, it went on sale in model shops and other mags at a price of £250. if i really wanted to build this model ide wait till xmas when they will be throwing it on the shelves at a fraction of the cost,,,,,,,,,,,,, WOULD I HELL! IDE BUILD IT FROM SCRATCH who seroiusly can afford to purchase this kit and get the last few bits just as your retirement pension comes in the same post,,,NOT ME,

kendalboatsman · « **Reply #29 on:** February 28, 2007, 06:20:24 PM »

Quote from: gingyer on February 24, 2007, 11:19:15 AM

Hi there, I have a couple of questions
1) is the Bismarck going to be able to be radio controlled
2) somebody was saying the price was £350 for the Amati kit can you please tell me where did you found that out I looked and could not see a listing for the Amati kit not even there own website
3) I think the bismark on TV does look better than the aeronaut kit (with some allowances for a professional model builder)

I was just looking out of intrest, I went to buy issue 1 and as usual the local large newsagent was useless, how they are still in business is
beyond me so will have to go into the city to have a wee look

Colin

Hello Colin,

I bought the first issue today, it can be radio controlled. I also cannot finding a listing for the Amati kit. I might go the whole hog and buy the series as £5 a week isn't two big an issue. But £400 in one go is. And I detest credit cards so won't purchase one that way.

Clive

evo6tme · « **Reply #30 on:** February 28, 2007, 07:24:00 PM »

The kit is`NT for sale by Amati yet but if u look at the large fold out in issue 1 there are a couple of comment about them including there emblem . They probably have an agreement with hatchett part works not to sell it for a year or so, it will probably be about £500 then ? >:(

slewis · « **Reply #31 on:** February 28, 2007, 09:31:39 PM »

Just been googling this one and if you look on German ebay they are selling up to issue 23 !

Quote

Holzbausatz Schlachtschiff Bismarck von Hachette,Ausgaben von 1 bis 23 Neu.Ein paar Ausgaben wurden nur zum Lesen geöfnet,die Holzteile sind alle unberührt geblieben.

Prrivatverkauf-ich übernehme keine Garantie,Umtausch oder Rückgabe nicht möglich.]Holzbausatz Schlachtschiff Bismarck von Hachette,Ausgaben von 1 bis 23 Neu.Ein paar Ausgaben wurden nur zum Lesen geöfnet,die Holzteile sind alle unberührt geblieben.

Prrivatverkauf-ich übernehme keine Garantie,Umtausch oder Rückgabe nicht möglich.

Translate it if you want to

shipmate60 · « **Reply #32 on:** March 01, 2007, 05:39:27 PM »

This should translate it.

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

If you are interested.

Bob

shipmate60 · « **Reply #33 on:** March 01, 2007, 05:41:18 PM »

or even

Timber construction kit battle ship Bismarck von Hachette, Ausgaben from 1 to 23 Neu.Ein few expenditures only for reading, the felling trees hurry was geoefnet all remained unaffected. Prrivatverkauf prrivatverkauf-ich do not take over no warranty, conversion or return moeglich.]Holzbausatz battle ship Bismarck von Hachette, Ausgaben from 1 to 23 Neu.Ein few expenditures only for reading were geoefnet, the felling trees hurry all remained unaffected. Prrivatverkauf prrivatverkauf-ich do not take over no warranty, conversion or return possible.

Not the best translation!!

Bob

OneBladeMissing · « **Reply #34 on:** March 03, 2007, 05:40:57 PM »

This partwork business is a rip-off. Why spend nearly £700 over nearly three years before you (hopefully) get your model finished? Why not save up for a year and buy a kit?
£700 for the bits, then more to finish it, then motors, batteries, R/C gear, etc.
That's one expensive Bismarck!
It'll probably take longer to build than the real one did!
There have been comments that the quality of the laser-cutting is good. For that sort of money I'd want it gold-plated as well!

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