Topic: Build the Bismarck - a "Hachett" job? (Read 210609 times)

Charles Nicholas · « **Reply #840 on:** November 29, 2007, 01:04:17 AM »

Can someone tell me why Hachette only send out 4 issues per month? It does make a sensible idea if they send out 10 issues per month and this will reduce the time building the boat

Down below · « **Reply #841 on:** November 29, 2007, 09:03:57 AM »

The concept is sold on the basis of it being a weekly series at an affordable amount, ie you get 1 mag per week via the newsagent or if you subscribe like you say its 4 mags every 4 weeks.

If you were sent 10 mags every 4 weeks yes the build would be much faster but do you really want a bill of £49.90 every 4 weeks?

Philipsparker · « **Reply #842 on:** November 29, 2007, 08:23:38 PM »

You could built it quicker still if they sent out everything in one box - I can't understand why no-one has thought of that before...

Seriously though, my Dad's building it and the rate the packs come out means he can keep on top of the model easily so the model makes steady progress which he is really enjoying. He has a Clyde Puffer on the shelf which has been there for years. Getting all the bits in one go threw him 'cos there are such a lot of them. The model will get built one day but it's much harder to work out where everything goes. The Bismark has really explicit instructions so even for someone who has built as many models as he has it's a much more user friendly way to get a battleship.

Phil
http://philsworkbench.blogspot.com/

Martin (Admin) · « **Reply #843 on:** December 07, 2007, 10:29:12 PM »

My Build updated - Here.

Cheers,
Marin

HS93 · « **Reply #844 on:** December 07, 2007, 10:46:57 PM »

Looks good but, HOW DO YOU WORK SO NEAT !

was the mouse any help ? when do the motors go in .

Peter

tjilpi · « **Reply #845 on:** December 07, 2007, 10:49:00 PM »

G'day Martin,
Just a query here, if the deck has a gentle curve, being higher fore and aft, will there be a problem if the superstructure has been put together on what looks like a flat table?
Cheers
Oz

Down below · « **Reply #846 on:** December 10, 2007, 08:17:28 AM »

Yes, very likely as the super wont then sit flat on the deck which is why the instructions tell you to set the super out on the deck whilst constructing its base

Martin (Admin) · « **Reply #847 on:** December 10, 2007, 09:07:29 AM »

So far mine is turning out to be a fairly flat deck, i.e.. it sits on the hull and worktop without any notable gaps or bow. The deck may well take on a bow when finally fixed / glued down but that can easily be induced by fixing sandpaper to the deck and "correcting" the superstructure accordingly!

As I'm building up a kit of parts to be amalgamated at the last possible instance, I'll not be fitting the decks, motors, rudders or super structure until I have to and then each part can be 'adjusted' for the best possible fit.

Martin

Martin (Admin) · « **Reply #848 on:** December 10, 2007, 06:40:45 PM »

Look how easy it is to build! - http://youtube.com/watch?v=PX5H0rhqYw0

Here's a model at the same stage of construction as mine! - http://youtube.com/watch?v=vQ9Z6nDI_hk&feature=related

slewis · « **Reply #849 on:** December 10, 2007, 11:15:30 PM »

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I am far happier with the building, problem solving of a model than sailing them. In fact after a couple of times sailing and checking that the model does what I intended it to do I loose interest in it and either sell it or burn it and start again on a new project!!

I am the same . My other love is Rc planes and for the last 3 years I have been solving various issues with building a large scale Fairey Gannet . It involves a 3 part folding wing and contra rotating props , not mentioning the Fairey flap system which is a work of art in itself !
I fully intend that this model (106" wingspan) will actually work as per the original and fly . But I dont have the qualifications to fly it myself . I know people who will fly it for me and I will be happy if it does just the one flight , the fun part for me has been the design work and the knowledge that I actually designed and built all of the systems needed for it to work properly

I expect that it will take me another 2 years to actually build the thing now that I have finalised all the parts (I have built 5 wings so far) and am getting the final bits laser cut when I get finished redrawing the plans .

Moral is take your time get it right and sod the expense its a FUN hobby after all and there is NO time limit on anything you do for fun

:) :) :) :)

Shane

Martin (Admin) · « **Reply #850 on:** December 12, 2007, 03:28:58 PM »

Damn! - Bismarck on Ebay for £32 quid

Captain Povey · « **Reply #851 on:** December 12, 2007, 04:34:30 PM »

Yes Martin I saw it too but did not like to mention it. Anyway it is not half as good as yours is going to be and look at the fun you had. Cheers Graham.

Martin (Admin) · « **Reply #852 on:** December 18, 2007, 07:01:55 PM »

Another one, a bigger one on ebay America...

1:150 scale Battle ship Bismark RC over 5.5 feet RTR

Cargo · « **Reply #853 on:** December 18, 2007, 10:24:07 PM »

Looks like that Jamara rubbish... >:(

rem2007 · « **Reply #854 on:** December 19, 2007, 12:03:50 AM »

looking good martin, I'm tagging along with issues 31-35. have a good christmas :angel:
robert

Martin (Admin) · « **Reply #855 on:** December 19, 2007, 12:18:06 AM »

Quote from: Jan on December 18, 2007, 10:24:07 PM

Looks like that Jamara rubbish... >:(

"Never mind the quality, feel the width!" ... as we say over here!

What's the German expression for 'something is rubbish but look how much rubbish you get for your money?'

PS. Just received parts 37-40... more Bxxxxxxx planking than you can shake a stick at!

gerrybuilt · « **Reply #856 on:** December 19, 2007, 07:38:21 PM »

Hi All,
I have just received issue#43 a day earlier than usual.
Now, please tell me that I have either sanded the hull planks too much, or the bow stem resin part #207 is wider than it aught to be, because there is at least 1mm sticking out wider than the wooden hull. I suppose that I will have to bodge it with filler and sand it all down later. Or have Hachette made the part 207 too big? :-\

Gerry

Down below · « **Reply #857 on:** December 20, 2007, 08:06:01 AM »

No your right, the Bow resin part is oversized by approx 2mm, you will need to carefully sand it to meet the level of the 2nd planking

So far the resin parts for this kit have been rubbish >:(

Roger in France · « **Reply #858 on:** December 28, 2007, 08:14:11 AM »

Last night, on French TV, I saw the first advert. for Hachette releasing Issue 1 of "Build the Bismark" here in France.

I shall not be tempted!

Roger in France.

HS93 · « **Reply #859 on:** December 28, 2007, 08:27:32 AM »

Is the Flying Scotsman being advertised on UK tv at present one of theres, again its 150 issues @ £4 95 and the Motor and rail is extra , does look nice though . I think its brass but it would then need painting.

:(

Peter

Philipsparker · « **Reply #860 on:** December 28, 2007, 06:20:29 PM »

The Flying Scotsman looks like a pretty good buy actually. I did the maths and you are only paying 34 quid more than buying the model outright. It's an interesting offer.

More maths and link in my blog: http://philsworkbench.blogspot.com/2007/12/build-flying-scotsman.html

Phil

HS93 · « **Reply #861 on:** December 28, 2007, 06:39:43 PM »

so you can buy it as a kit .? any links

Peter

Philipsparker · « **Reply #862 on:** December 28, 2007, 07:06:22 PM »

Yes, in the blog - Tower Models. Look under DJH O gauge kits. http://www.tower-models.com/ I don't think they do 2 different A3 kits.

Phil

HS93 · « **Reply #863 on:** December 28, 2007, 07:25:56 PM »

Thanks for that.

Peter

djrobbo · « **Reply #864 on:** December 28, 2007, 09:47:13 PM »

Hi guys .....been doing model railways for donkeys years.......wonder how many people have seen the add and think they can make the loco look like it does on the telly. Most will not realise it is etched brass . and needs soldering . and that any white metal parts will need low melt solder etc.......i can see a lot of unfinished locos and unhappy people.. :'( :'(

cos918 · « **Reply #865 on:** December 28, 2007, 09:57:33 PM »

have to agree with djrobbo brass loco kit are not the easiest especially for beginners. Me thinks there will be a fair few on ebay in the not to distant future.

elmo · « **Reply #866 on:** December 29, 2007, 07:00:55 AM »

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2004/jan/12/mondaymediasection.books

cos918 · « **Reply #867 on:** December 29, 2007, 10:54:40 AM »

hi , elmo that was very intresting reading.

elmo · « **Reply #868 on:** December 29, 2007, 11:38:52 AM »

Quote from: cos918 on December 29, 2007, 10:54:40 AM

hi , elmo that was very intresting reading.

Thanks, yeh, good stuff eh?

I do try very hard not to let myself get suckered into these things (you should see my collection of Napoleonic cavalrymen though!

) which, lets be honest, look absolutely fantastic at first, especially when you see the ad on the TV (as we are meant to be taken in - exactly as per that article suggests) for that finished A1 loco, all shiny, authentically painted and lined out (which is an art in itself - or an expensive sub-contract out-source even IF you manage to put the kit together!)

I think I've also read somewhere too, that perhaps they should offer a pre-partwork tutorial on soldering brass sheet and low-melt solder requirements for white metal parts etc., etc., etc., as something like the A1 Flying Scotsman model would surely have a very wide appeal across all age ranges, but only a few would probably have the knowledge or the skill or the equipment necessary to make a start. :-\

Philipsparker · « **Reply #869 on:** December 29, 2007, 12:52:07 PM »

An etched loco kit doesn't have to be difficult to build. It's perfectly possible to design a model that can be assembled with screws, bolts and superglue. It's just that in the UK, loco kits are built down to a price and so are harder to put together.

DJH's main business is high-end kits for Europe & the USA. These markets will pay for ease of assembly, especially in the States.

They do make a couple of beginners kits in 4mm scale where the only soldering required is for the pickups. The Flying Scotsman needs the same apparently. With sufficient sales quaranteed, I bet Hachette have got a good deal from DJH and so this will be one of the top-end kits.

And you don't need to solder whitemetal. If the bits are any good, a quality superglue will work fine. My loco's have survived years on the exhibition circuit with glued on chimneys and domes.

Martin (Admin) · « **Reply #870 on:** January 01, 2008, 08:56:57 PM »

Ebay - unfinished bismarck battleship which i subscribed to hachette partworks

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/build-the-bismarck-battleship-kit_W0QQitemZ200187243549QQihZ010QQcategoryZ1189QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

tjilpi · « **Reply #871 on:** January 01, 2008, 10:24:23 PM »

Hi Martin,
A Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year to all forum members AND
When can we next expect an update on your Bismarck

Cheers
Oz

jinks8 · « **Reply #872 on:** January 02, 2008, 01:26:19 AM »

It floats

HS93 · « **Reply #873 on:** January 02, 2008, 01:39:01 AM »

Quote from: Forum Admin - Martin on January 01, 2008, 08:56:57 PM

Ebay - unfinished bismarck battleship which i subscribed to hachette partworks

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/build-the-bismarck-battleship-kit_W0QQitemZ200187243549QQihZ010QQcategoryZ1189QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

Martin I thought yours was further on ?

why are you selling :-\

Peter

Down below · « **Reply #874 on:** January 02, 2008, 08:45:40 AM »

Martin

Sad to see its up for sale, how come your moving it on, thought you got it as a freeby?

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