Topic: Waterline models (Read 13444 times)

carlmt · « **Reply #35 on:** November 16, 2011, 11:25:09 PM »

Ali - what is that? I mean, is it a kit???? A souvenir from the ship???? Where did you find it???????????

Jealous? Me????? YOU BET

I really LIKE that ALOT!!!!!

Please enlighten me

Carl

wartsilaone · « **Reply #36 on:** November 16, 2011, 11:31:11 PM »

I picked it up from Ebay. They used to be sold in the onboard shop. If you keep your eye out I'm sure there will be more. the windows aren't correct but then they are just souvenirs.

carlmt · « **Reply #37 on:** November 16, 2011, 11:45:30 PM »

It would be relatively easy to cast a waterline mould from one of them. I guess they are not to the correct scale though?

I have only ever seen the toy souvenirs that P&O sold of the Pride of Dover / Calais before. I have one, but only because the full size ships are nearly history. They are not accurate at all.

Norfolkline / DFDS dont sell anything like these on their boats.

wartsilaone · « **Reply #38 on:** November 16, 2011, 11:57:18 PM »

I also have a metal Pride of Dover. Like you said the scale is not correct but with a bit of work they could make quite good budget models. As you can see I have started converting the cast from the original Norsun model to a Norsea model and different liveries are possible.

carlmt · « **Reply #39 on:** November 17, 2011, 12:10:04 AM »

This is excellent Ali - really looking forward to them

This is something I can do in the motorhome when I have had enough of working in the workshop!!!

My wife and I 'full time' in our motorhome, and my workshop is here on the campsite with us - shared with a part restored 1972 Bedford CF motorhome and a 'just started' restoration of a CB250NB Super Dream motorbike.......just as well it is big enough to fit the ferry construction as well....

SWMBO will not let me work on the FEV in the 'van (understandable), so these waterline models will most certainly be acceptable

C

wartsilaone · « **Reply #40 on:** November 17, 2011, 12:18:43 AM »

I know what you mean. I'm really pushed for space at the moment and these Ferry Small Ships are already starting to fill the area I have left.
I'd love to start another big build, but for now I'll have to stick with the little'ens.

Ali.

Norseman · « **Reply #41 on:** November 17, 2011, 07:01:34 AM »

Superdream - they were damned heavy for a 250 if my memory of just one ride is correct?

Re space - oh u can make lots of space by giving me stuff - I'm very friendly like that

Dave

John R Haynes · « **Reply #42 on:** November 17, 2011, 02:14:19 PM »

For those modellers interested in 1/200 waterline modelling I shall shortly be taking down to Fleetscale in Cornwall my GRP moulds for Imperator , Aquitania , Mauretania, Empress of Britain, Normandie, United States, Queen Mary , Queen Elizabeth 1
Fleetscale will make them available to modellers to complete these Blue-Ribbon winners of the last Century.

Colin Bishop · « **Reply #43 on:** November 17, 2011, 02:22:21 PM »

These must be quite large hulls then John, are photos available online anywhere either of the hulls or models built using them?

Colin

John R Haynes · « **Reply #44 on:** November 18, 2011, 10:18:49 AM »

Most are around 5ft long . E of B is smaller . There is a shot of one liner in my Portfolio section of my site in the box "Other General models I have built" .
As a further note on these hulls , the models were built for Conrad Black and are now in the Library of his Toronto home. I do have files on all these builds and hard copies of photos . Nothing digital since they were built before this technology was widespread.
If you are interested in a particular subject I could scan pics to you but there are a lot to load on this site where I do not think there is much interest
Fleetscale may take a casting out and put a pic on there new site . Maybe you should be speaking to them at a later time ?
Of course I developed a ton of fittings for these models but have not put them in my on-line shop as I feel the market is not there.
In fact what is in my shop is a fraction of what I have developed over the years and sooner or later at my age now I will be looking to sell my business . At the moment what I am actively trying to sell is my 1/24 PT kits.

Colin Bishop · « **Reply #45 on:** November 18, 2011, 11:02:15 AM »

Thanks for the response John, I was just curious, that's all as I collect waterline liner models in 1:1250 scale. You have captured the Queen Mary model very well.

Baron Black is not in a position to appreciate your work just at the moment though.

By selling your business I assume you mean turning over the moulds of hulls and fittings to another producer - the biggest asset is of course yourself!

Colin

arrow5 · « **Reply #46 on:** November 18, 2011, 04:53:42 PM »

At 5ft long there could be a market for full-hulled models for R/C, is this a possibility?

John R Haynes · « **Reply #47 on:** November 18, 2011, 04:59:19 PM »

Only if the possilble builder is prepared to fit a bottom section to my grp top but I guess that should not be too difficult . Also it would allow any builder to make a more suitable bottom section to take any RC gear and to be more stable in the water . However you should bear in mind that the top grp will be totally enclosed and would need an opening to be made to access any interior gear.

Norseman · « **Reply #48 on:** November 18, 2011, 08:06:27 PM »

5 feet is a bit small for you isn't it Duncan?- I've seen some of what you've got

Dave

arrow5 · « **Reply #49 on:** November 18, 2011, 09:29:46 PM »

Funny you should say that Dave, that is exactly how I got THAT one, a waterline model ...ahem, hulk.

carlmt · « **Reply #50 on:** November 28, 2011, 11:46:02 PM »

Well well well - I must have been a good boy this year as Santa has already paid me a visit................

Look what I found this morning....................

Absolutely first class waterline model of the P&O ferry Pride of Hull, courtesy of Alister (Wartsilaone)

The perfect Christmas present for a ferry nut like myself - can highly recommend these small waterline models of his.....and absolute delight to look at

Thanks Ali - just the ticket!!!
Carl

Norseman · « **Reply #51 on:** November 28, 2011, 11:54:47 PM »

Congrats Carl

I've just checked the doormat - - - it's not x'mas yet in Liverpool

WRONG !!!!! I Santa'd myself this evening and bought two old boats

but I have left them in the van until SWIMBO nods off

Dave

carlmt · « **Reply #52 on:** November 28, 2011, 11:58:22 PM »

Sensible move Dave

My wife says I have two old boats - she refers to my shoes I wear in the workshop.....size 12's.

What 'old boats' are these then? I feel a new topic starting soon to see these (so we dont clog up Ali's waterline thread

)
c

wartsilaone · « **Reply #53 on:** November 29, 2011, 12:32:08 AM »

It's nice to see it arrived in one piece Carl.

wartsilaone · « **Reply #54 on:** December 14, 2011, 09:07:17 PM »

I made a start on the Pride of free Enterprise today.

It's early days yet but it's taking shape.

This is the Ostroski model. I will be aiming at this kind of detail and should be able to improve on the windows.

I hope to do a bit more tomorrow.

Ali.

cos918 · « **Reply #55 on:** December 14, 2011, 09:34:39 PM »

Hi Ali
I have that water line model .
I will put my name down for one Sprit class.

I went on Oleander ex Pride of free enterprise. I took a tone of photos. If you need them I can pop a cd in the post just let me Know.

John

wartsilaone · « **Reply #56 on:** December 14, 2011, 09:47:47 PM »

That might come in handy thanks John.

The problem is that apart from the ultra modern ferries most have been done before. It's hard to match the detail and quality of these models but I'll have a go.

I have in mind a few builds.

Ulysees (Irish Ferries)
Stena Britannica
Bretagne (Brittany Ferries)

Ali.

Norseman · « **Reply #57 on:** December 14, 2011, 10:20:40 PM »

Hi John

try Dropbox http://www.dropbox.com/downloading just zip your folder and pop the file into your dropbox - send the unique link - he clicks on it and unzips - simples. Dropbox will do other stuff but I only use it for this.

Dave

wartsilaone · « **Reply #58 on:** December 14, 2011, 10:28:48 PM »

Thanks Dave. That would be even better as the machine I'm using at the moment doesn't have a disk drive and it's free.

Norseman · « **Reply #59 on:** December 14, 2011, 10:34:14 PM »

Hi Ali

I sent Carl a shed load of kalakala stuff and it was quick and painless. One bit of advice - Each file gets its own link so if there are a few put them in a folder ....... now it won't send a folder only a file - so always put folders into a zip file. That's the only thing I had to work out for myself.

Dave

wartsilaone · « **Reply #60 on:** December 14, 2011, 10:52:08 PM »

Thanks Dave.
I might try the Kalakala one day It's one of those ships that really broke the mould and definitely has a place in the history of the ferry. I hope it can be saved.

Ali.

Norseman · « **Reply #61 on:** December 14, 2011, 11:04:08 PM »

It is probably only days away from the end. I was told yesterday they need $100k super quick and several of the authorities have the knives out.
If I end up doing it with a mould your more than welcome Ali

Dave

carlmt · « **Reply #62 on:** December 14, 2011, 11:07:44 PM »

Boy oh boy oh boy!!!!!!

I will put my order in now please Ali

An unpainted one - I fancy having her in the first original colour scheme with TTF in orange on the funnel....

Cant wait!!!!! It is looking great already - you have captured the hull shape so well.............

I have no doubt that yours will be clearer and 'crisper' than the other you posted the image of............

Sorry for the delay in responding to this - was in the workshop this evening creating filler dust mountains!!!! My god, the stuff gets everywhere....
Carl

wartsilaone · « **Reply #63 on:** December 14, 2011, 11:13:23 PM »

Needless to say you had a mask on Carl, can't have you a excuse to get out of finishing the Norland

Like you said, I don,t want to let you down.

Ali.

carlmt · « **Reply #64 on:** December 14, 2011, 11:13:55 PM »

Quote from: Norseman on December 14, 2011, 11:04:08 PM

It is probably only days away from the end. I was told yesterday they need $100k super quick and several of the authorities have the knives out.
If I end up doing it with a mould your more than welcome Ali

Dave

This is not good news Dave - without the backing of the city of Seattle, I cannot see how they can save her. Unfortunately, ships are generally too large to preserve........

We will have to make a lasting memorial to her then by producing the ultimate radio control version

As for your mould - I think it may be a little too large for Ali's purposes........however, I am sure that the drawings I will do for the R/C version will be usefull for him to use to produce the waterline version.......
Carl

carlmt · « **Reply #65 on:** December 14, 2011, 11:20:47 PM »

Quote from: wartsilaone on December 14, 2011, 11:13:23 PM

Needless to say you had a mask on Carl, can't have you a excuse to get out of finishing the Norland

Like you said, I don,t want to let you down.

Ali.

Damn right I did - and full goggles!!! When that stuff gets in my eyes it gives me the mother of all headaches!!! And as you say, I cannot have an excuse for not getting the Norland done

Time consuming though...........
Carl

Norseman · « **Reply #66 on:** December 14, 2011, 11:25:23 PM »

Quote from: carlmt on December 14, 2011, 11:20:47 PM

Time consuming though

So what else is there to do in Gillingham on a Wednesday night?

Dave

carlmt · « **Reply #67 on:** December 14, 2011, 11:31:40 PM »

Booger 'all Dave, Booger 'all.......
Still, each hour spent in the workshop means one hour closer to getting the mould made.........

wartsilaone · « **Reply #68 on:** December 15, 2011, 11:28:54 PM »

A quick update.

Ali.

carlmt · « **Reply #69 on:** December 16, 2011, 09:32:25 AM »

Hi Ali - looking damn good fella

Just one small observation - if she is to be Pride of Free Enterprise, then the area highlighted in red on your photo will need to be cut back to created an open deck. As the model is now, this represents Oleander with cabins built in this area....

Only trying to be helpful mate - certainly no critisism.........
Carl

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