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Patrick Henry

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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #35 on: April 12, 2011, 10:47:15 AM »

These aren't really(?)that dangerous...although with Alfie wielding the lathe, anything can happen. They are only surface running though...



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hollowhornbear

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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #36 on: April 12, 2011, 10:50:14 AM »

so were Dave Wrights we thought. and they punched a nice hole in ramesh' typhoon!
King Size not the words KONG size more like they'll be close to the size of my elusive disappearing Seawolf! but cool 8)
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Patrick Henry

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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #37 on: April 12, 2011, 10:52:17 AM »

Well, you know what they say..."man with big torpedoes should be kept clear of...."



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hollowhornbear

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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #38 on: April 12, 2011, 11:00:05 AM »

to help with the detailing, i suggest you get hold of a set of John Lambert's drawing 3 sheets.
http://www.lambert-plans.com/
click warships then submarines scroll down.
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Patrick Henry

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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #39 on: April 12, 2011, 11:02:56 AM »

Got them already Kev....a nice man sent me a set. He's a very nice man.

A very very nice man.


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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #40 on: April 12, 2011, 11:16:00 AM »

Well, you know what they say..."man with big torpedoes should be kept clear of...."

Rich

That reads a bit like a euphemism.

Patrick Henry

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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #41 on: April 12, 2011, 11:26:25 AM »

Language, Timothy!



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Patrick Henry

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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #42 on: April 14, 2011, 09:08:53 AM »

Kevin is right, the torpedoes are big...

The one in the pic is 2.75" in diameter, which is still 0.25" too small. Off to B&Q later today...

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hollowhornbear

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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #43 on: April 14, 2011, 09:32:54 AM »

I know, had some finger slippage earlier scale if i calculated correctly is 1:6.8 or at least measuring my mouldings it is! this makes the torps 75mm or approxiamately 3" in dia.
not sure i'd want one of those running loose. not to mention the trim changes when launched. from the info available on the web, this was a problem as they used to pop to the surface on after launching the torps, were they where then sunk by surface fire from the ships they were attacking.
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Patrick Henry

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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #44 on: April 14, 2011, 09:36:35 AM »

That may well be a problem Kev, but at least I can claim it's a perfectly scale manoeuvre...
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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #45 on: April 14, 2011, 12:42:02 PM »

It'll run a lot better minus the torpedos- it's like strapping a couple of 1/96th scale nukes each side of the hull- lot of drag.

I like the Italeri box art for this boat, looks like an underwater tiger. Not sure how authentic that colour scheme is, but I think it's nicer than boring old grey.


Patrick Henry

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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #46 on: April 14, 2011, 12:46:17 PM »

It's very authentic...see pic.

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hollowhornbear

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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #47 on: April 14, 2011, 07:42:54 PM »

how about this one?

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Patrick Henry

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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #48 on: April 14, 2011, 07:46:42 PM »

Well, it's certainly....different. I wonder what the rivet counters would make of THAT?
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hollowhornbear

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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #49 on: April 14, 2011, 07:59:42 PM »

What can they say photographic evidence, proves it exists. Would make seeing it submerged easier( before you chip in Andy) :-)
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Patrick Henry

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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #50 on: April 14, 2011, 08:02:49 PM »

Well, that's true...

No, please don't tempt me any further...
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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #51 on: April 14, 2011, 08:58:21 PM »

Dont know how much this will help but Salvage squad restored one of these little beasties.Just go onto
youtube tap in Salvage squad, and look for midget submarine. Its an interesting film. Bit dramartized for tv
Hope this helps John.
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Patrick Henry

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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #52 on: April 14, 2011, 10:01:25 PM »

Thanks John, haven't seen that for a while...very interesting, as you say.


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hollowhornbear

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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #53 on: April 15, 2011, 11:58:54 AM »

all info foumd and in the post.
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Patrick Henry

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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #54 on: April 15, 2011, 12:26:00 PM »

Kev...you are a darlin', many thanks mate.
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hollowhornbear

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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #55 on: April 15, 2011, 02:32:38 PM »

not sure i like to be called a darling :embarrassed: people may start talking especially on here.
but your welcome you should hopefully have it tomorrow.
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Patrick Henry

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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #56 on: April 15, 2011, 04:14:32 PM »

Kev, you're a an lov swee very nice man.

Thanks again, mate..


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Patrick Henry

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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #57 on: April 15, 2011, 04:15:23 PM »

Kev, you're a an lov swee very nice man.

Thanks again, mate..


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Patrick Henry

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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #58 on: April 15, 2011, 04:15:52 PM »

What happened there?
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Patrick Henry

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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #59 on: April 18, 2011, 12:43:45 PM »

Kev...you are a true gentleman, mate. A large envelope just dropped through the letterbox....I'll get the drawing copied tomorrow(library is closed on Mondays...)and get the stuff posted back to you.

Many thanks mate...much, much appreciated.
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hollowhornbear

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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #60 on: April 18, 2011, 09:19:30 PM »

no problem, glad to help. any more pics of yours or are you too busy with your new toy.
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Patrick Henry

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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #61 on: April 18, 2011, 09:21:20 PM »

I'll do some more pics SAP, tomorrow it's off to my tame engineers to get the rudder posts made up. He's a handy man...
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hollowhornbear

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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #62 on: April 18, 2011, 09:48:05 PM »

like to see details of torps when they're available. not sure wether to go for torps on mine or not.
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Patrick Henry

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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #63 on: April 18, 2011, 09:51:19 PM »

As soon as the tube size is sorted, I'll get them off to Alfie and aks him to take a step by step photo build of them....if you remember seeing DW's torps on his Seehund, these will be fairly similar in design.
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Patrick Henry

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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #64 on: April 19, 2011, 02:50:25 PM »

All copied Kev...pm your address and I'll post them back to you.


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Patrick Henry

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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #65 on: April 22, 2011, 03:05:18 PM »

The wtc is now completed and it fits...and it works. The end caps are on their way back to Paul H to have 1mm shaved off all round, they were just a touch too big.

I was going to install a 12v 4.5a/h gel cell up in the bows, but it didn't fit (grrr!) so I've ordered a 12volt 3700a/h nicad pack specially made to fit the space available.

Flood holes are drilled, shaft is temporarily fitted, so next job is to make a start on the detailing of the conning tower, finish off the 'scopes, and then make up the few bits on the deck.




I think I've worked out how to release the torpedoes, but that entails much brass work, so there's a job for my tame engineer. A friend in Bristol is getting the metal work that supports the rudder and rear dive plane made up for me, and as you know, Alfie is going to make the torpedoes operational.

Without the help of Alfie, Andrew Gray and his friend Terry, Dave at ACTion Electronics, Kevin Coombs, Ramesh, Andy Lawrence and Andy Oakley I wouldn't have even got this far with the build...I thank you all for your advice, assistance and hard work on my behalf.


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Patrick Henry

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Re: Darnell Biber midget sub
« Reply #66 on: April 24, 2011, 01:49:13 PM »

It's too hot to go sailing thisarvo, I have trouble drawing breath out there when it's hot like this, so I've been building some of the detail on the Biber's conning tower...









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