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Re: RFA Gold Ranger
« Reply #50 on: November 14, 2011, 04:40:53 PM »

Bryan,

Just checking "the little grey cells" were still functioning. Carry on  :P

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Re: RFA Gold Ranger
« Reply #51 on: November 15, 2011, 02:51:54 PM »

Boats and Davits.
As you’ll be able to tell (I hope) from the photos, the davits fitted to this ship are more or less a bit like the quadrantal davits as used on “Norseman”….the main difference being that there’s no “quadrant”…instead, the heel of the davit is on a simple hinge and the screw just pushes the davit outboard. The basic principle is the same in both cases, but this version would seem to be just as effective and much simpler (cheaper) to manufacture. That must have appealed to the shipowners! They were also much easier to make in model form…no quadrants to form. The rest of the davit is the same. A pretty straight forward casting or fabrication with a taper from the fat end (bottom) to the top thinner end, where it has an abrupt 90* inward bend. I cast these things in dental plastic.
Not having the quadrant to worry about, only one master had to be made. So the master could be a straight forward wooden “flat” thing with the curved top bend grafted on and the whole thing smoothed up and had a silicon mould made of it.
I recall that this process was more expensive than I would have liked….but according to James Lane (he of the stanchion manufacture), moulding “stuff” is one heck of a lot cheaper now than it was in days of yore. You lucky people.
The “base units” are again just fabricated from various plasticard sections, “right” and “left” handed depending on which end of the boat they’d be operating at.
Just a couple of thing to note about davit fittings. These davits are really quite simple affairs, especially if compared to the more modern Schat things with their rather complicated system of rigging. These davits are only a couple of steps up the evolutionary scale from the old Radial davits. Even so, there are 2 aspects which tend to be either omitted or done wrongly on many models. The “omission” part is the wire span between the heads of the pair of davits. My omission here was not to include the knotted boarding lines that hang from the span into the boats. Gosh, I seem to have missed out a lot! The “wrong” bit lies in the rigging of the lifeboat falls. The first thing that is a common fault is using double sheave blocks when triple sheave is correct (for lifeboats, anyway). If triples are fitted then I can almost guarantee that they will be reeved incorrectly. I’ve banged on about this in the past, but it will bear repeating. A triple sheave set-up always has the hauling part of the fall coming out of the top centre sheave. Always. Otherwise the block will “topple” with disastrous consequences. And the only way to rig these falls is to have the blocks at right angles to each other.
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Re: RFA Gold Ranger
« Reply #52 on: November 17, 2011, 11:03:32 AM »

A slight diversion to stave off incipient boredom:-
The Wheelhouse.
Otherwise known as “The Bridge” or “The Ivory Tower”.
The photo that should accompany this post somewhere or another is more or less typical of  a “Bridge” aboard a 1940s/50s cargo-liner. This one happens to be a “Blue Flue”, but could equally well be on a P&O, Ben Line, British India, Clan Line or anyone elses ships operating then.
But there are a few things to notice here……..
1.   The unpanelled deckhead. Not unusual as generally the deck over was wood sheathed.
2.   Many modern ships have sealed bridge windows, but before the advent of air-con getting some air into the wheelhouse was a “must have”. Early methods of opening these windows involved the use of a leather strap much as the railway carriages of the time used. The windows shown are probably about ¾” thick and so very heavy. They are held at the desired level by the polished brass clamps as shown in the pic. Also shown is one (of 2) “Kent Clear View” units. Just a simple spinning disc set into a window.
3.   The rudder indicator at the upper left and the Engine rev. counter at the upper right. The Engine Telegraph(s) are there but out of sight.
4.   You may well notice the absence of the traditional magnetic compass and it’s wooden binnacle. I can’t imagine why the practice of having 2 pretty expensive things fitted so close together was so common. The “Standard” compass would almost universally be mounted on the “Monkey Island”, directly above a similar unit within the wheelhouse. Shipowners were (and are) notoriously parsimonious, so why they were conned into having 2 of these things when one would do beats me. However, this particular owner has done the sensible thing and fitted a periscope compass. All this really means is that via an “upside-down” periscope projecting into a space visible to the helmsman the “standard” compass could also be used as a steering compass. Still fitted, even in these days of so-called infallible electronics.
5.   Then we must have a look at the sheer awkwardness of the steering gear. Personally I never saw a layout quite as poorly designed as this one…but it does show the various components. From the wheel (adorned with a mechanical rudder indicator) the brass rod passes through a casting whose sole job is to support a gyro compass repeater. The actual gyro compass could be anywhere within the ship. Early ones were pretty big things and often had a cabin to themselves….which is more than most of the crew had. But until the advent of the titchy little things we now have that can be placed just about anywhere (a small cupboard under the chart table comes to mind) such was the case.
           A slight sidebar to the above. The arrival of the gyro-compass gave, apart from steering and positioning accuracy, another boon to the navigator. The arrival of the Bridge Wing repeater compass. This was the long awaited end of the hated but indispensable “Pelorus”.
Using a pelorus……well, for a start, a Pelorus is not a compass, although at first glance it looks like one. But when mounted on a wing pedestal before taking a bearing the “heading point” has to be aligned pretty carefully to the ship fore and aft line. So that’s “fixed”. When taking a bearing of anything the helmsman would have to be ready to sing out his exact compass heading when the bearing taker yelled “mark”. The bearing taker would then know how much to add or subtract from his bearing to give him a compass bearing. And remember that these bearings were not in “degrees”, but in all likelihood in “quarter points”. Pretty long winded. Now, the bearing taker just nips outside, lines up the azimuth mirror and reads the bearing in degrees of the gyro compass card. Seemples.
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Re: RFA Gold Ranger
« Reply #53 on: November 17, 2011, 11:57:26 AM »

But back to the boats:-Back to the lifeboats.
During WW2 it was not uncommon for ships to be sent “in harms way” while still equipped with wooden boats. This included tankers and warships. Personally I consider this to be verging on the criminal. Another strange decision was for some owners to opt for aluminium boats. The more enlightened owners fitted steel boats. Admittedly, not perfect but at least steel boats wouldn’t burn or melt.
I came across a similar exercise in futility when I was a 2nd Officer aboard RFA “Tidereach”. She had aluminium lifeboats…but it was only during an early 1970s refit that the surveyor discovered that the aluminium plates were fastened with steel rivets. So the boats were really just held together by the years of paint that had been slathered on them. A great morale booster that was! Still, we got a new outfit of boats before we set off to do a long stint on the Beira Patrol.
There are a multitude of rules applying to Lifeboats. Then and now, but I’ll stick with the open “old fashioned” sort. One of the major rules covered the minimum equipment that must be carried in a lifeboat. So much “stuff” that I’m surprised there was any room left for “survivors”. Much of the gear was stowed in various lockers, but a lot was left in the open…albeit lashed to somewhere within the boat.
On a model at 1:48 scale and larger, if the boat(s) are to be shown open without covers then at least some of the gear should be shown. A personal choice, but I believe that boats without covers lend a lot more interest to the model as a whole…even though it’s a pretty time consuming exercise.
If anyone is interested I can post a list of what the old Min of Transport decreed the minimum of gear required.
However. Gold Ranger had steel boats. The hulls I made in the same way as the Petrol bowser. The rubbing strips and gunwhale cappings are simple strips of plasticard, grab-line handles are just beads from a “craft” shop.
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Re: RFA Gold Ranger
« Reply #54 on: November 17, 2011, 12:07:10 PM »

Bryan I'm really enjoying this thread - it is as much about ships of the period and their equipment as it is about
the building of Gold Ranger.

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Re: RFA Gold Ranger
« Reply #55 on: November 17, 2011, 02:16:15 PM »

The final part about the Boat Deck.
Awning spars. Rather odd things to fit during the war, don’t you think? Not as if a grubby little RFA would have much time to host a cocktail party…especially in Murmansk or places cold and icy.
But fitted they were. The uprights are made from the previously mentioned plastic coated wire. Both ends stripped of a short length of the plastic coating and inserted into holes drilled into both the deck and the spars.Superglued in place.
The spars themselves are 1/16” thick spruce and 1/8” deep. I find spruce takes a paint finish better than obeche.
The funny looking “bottle” things in racks are smoke floats.
The little machine out on the port quarter is a Deep Sea Sounding Machine. As found on all ships of the era….but also on some ships well into the 1970s.
Finally, I come to the stern hose chute. It’s use can be easily seen from its construction. A pity about the near miss bomb attack, but that’s moderately easy to repair….I think. In fact, that’s the main bit of damage on the model.
Next time around I’ll move on the the bridge area, and that’ll be it.
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Re: RFA Gold Ranger
« Reply #56 on: November 17, 2011, 03:56:39 PM »

Hello Bryan,

A wee question for you because I know you like me asking them.  %)  Why put a sounding machine right over the rudders and props where there is the possibility of the sounding line getting caught up or cropped?

Just asking.

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Re: RFA Gold Ranger
« Reply #57 on: November 17, 2011, 05:35:30 PM »

Ask away my Caledonian Clankie. Anything to prove to you that getting your head (and career) out of the dingy bowels will be good for your soul. As the sounding wire has a pretty heavy weight on the end of it, and assuming some clown doesn't put the engines into full astern then the weight will plummet downwards. I hasten to add that the ship will generally be "steaming" ahead during the sounding process. And it's no good you quoting hypoteneuse over vertical distance either....there's a little tube attached to the wire with an internal coating that cahnges colour with water pressure, correlate the pressure with discolouration and the depth is easily ascertained even by the most junior of the Ivory Tower incumbents. Satisfied now?
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« Reply #58 on: November 17, 2011, 05:37:33 PM »

Gold Ranger…the final chapter.
I’ll start off with a general photo of the Bridge front. Forget the “grey” bits.
The bridge and wheelhouse front are all separate planks from the same strips of thin teak..not quite veneer, but close to it. The foundation is again formed from 1/32” ply.  The differences in colour gradation I ensure by simply cutting as many “planks” as I think I’ll need (over long, but will be trimmed), put them all in a heap and give the heap a shuffle. Then while fitting and gluing I simply use the bit that comes to hand first. Totally random. I do the same with the deck planking, by the way. The capping is obeche (again). All lacquered before being fitted into place….I don’t think there’s any need to go into the actual structure of the superstructure again. Same procedure as all the rest of it.
The “Gun”….A commercial item. I haven’t a clue whether or not it’s accurate in any respect. But it seems to look OK….except that it seems to be designed and fitted to blow the top off the funnel. On the 1st photo I posted on this subject I hadn’t seen the height of the sponson above the deck….I only went by the builders plan. I’m not going to change it now. If the then Ministry of War could originally have it designed that way, who am I to argue.
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Re: RFA Gold Ranger
« Reply #59 on: November 17, 2011, 05:41:57 PM »

Oh dear....not my fault 'guv. The electronic machine has a mind of its own now and again. That 1st pic was supposed to appear later. Sorry.
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Re: RFA Gold Ranger
« Reply #60 on: November 17, 2011, 06:20:22 PM »

Ask away my Caledonian Clankie. Anything to prove to you that getting your head (and career) out of the dingy bowels will be good for your soul. As the sounding wire has a pretty heavy weight on the end of it, and assuming some clown doesn't put the engines into full astern then the weight will plummet downwards. I hasten to add that the ship will generally be "steaming" ahead during the sounding process. And it's no good you quoting hypoteneuse over vertical distance either....there's a little tube attached to the wire with an internal coating that cahnges colour with water pressure, correlate the pressure with discolouration and the depth is easily ascertained even by the most junior of the Ivory Tower incumbents. Satisfied now?

O Great Sky-Gazer and Knower of All Things,
What does the internal coating on the little tube consist of and why does it change colour?  %)  %)

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Re: RFA Gold Ranger
« Reply #61 on: November 17, 2011, 06:36:09 PM »

A very enjoyable thread Bryan. Apart from the purely modelling aspects I am finding the insight into the construction and use of the various fittings very interesting. I think many of us model various details with little understanding of their significance and your postings are very educational!

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Re: RFA Gold Ranger
« Reply #62 on: November 17, 2011, 07:32:02 PM »

Internal coatings Barry? Well, it's a sort of rusty red stuff....a bit like the colour of the stuff you'll leak when I catch up with you.
I'm neither a chemist nor a fast moving skirt wearing hill runner....nor an inginere come to that. have another wee dram....Bryan.
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Re: RFA Gold Ranger
« Reply #63 on: November 17, 2011, 07:37:16 PM »

Sorry Bryan - I should have asked an Engineer  :P  :kiss:

Cheers,

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Re: RFA Gold Ranger
« Reply #64 on: November 17, 2011, 11:02:24 PM »

Bryan I assume the winch for the depth sounder is similar to the winches which used to be on the quarterdecks of most warships
and in their case was used for lowering the bathythermograph over the stern and into the depths. But ours contained a small glass slide
which changed colour and indicated the temperatur layers in the sea and was  for the purpose of helping in submarine detection

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Re: RFA Gold Ranger
« Reply #65 on: November 18, 2011, 10:59:15 AM »

Geoff (and the irritating "wee-free").
The machine you used is a deep sea sounding machine. In fact we used the one fitted on RFA "Pearleaf" for the same reasons you did....dunking a bathythermograph.
Although the advent of echo-sounding made these things largely redundant, they had one advantage over the echo-sounder...they could get a sample of the sea bed. In standard form the sample was a very small one, being collected by being "stuck" on a wodge of tallow pressed into a hollow formed in the base of the sinker. I can't recall the actual weight of the sinker, but it must have been in the region of 20lb or so.
When I was with Cable & Wireless we used various systems. First there was the "Hand  Lead Line"...which is as its name implies. A lighter, shorter line for use in shallow waters (Read "Mark Twain"). Then there was the one we've just been talking about...went down to about 100fm. Very useful for judging when a ship  is crossing the edge of a continental shelf in the days before more modern aids to navigation were invented. Then we had the use of the bespoke Steam Sounding Machine. This, using a cannon ball (56lb) could go down to 3,000fms. Then came the standard echo-sounder...and lastly a variation on the latter which used a "Mufax" machine as a receiver. The Mufax was really intended to get faxed weather maps, but worked very well when a more detailed scan of the sea bed was needed. Now to expound on the machine we started off with....
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« Reply #66 on: November 18, 2011, 11:21:12 AM »

A rider to my previous post….for those unaware of it, all “Continental Shelves” in the world are delineated at the 100fm line.
Anyway, to continue:-
Patent sounding machines are based on the fact that the pressure of the water on an immersed object increases with the depth to which it is immersed.
Boyle and Marriotte’s Law is made use of in some of them, as follows:-
“The volume of any given mass of air or other gas, decreases in the same proportion as the pressure upon it increases”.
A glass tube, the bottom end being “open”, protected within a brass case is lowered to the sea bed…or any chosen depth. The inside of the tube is coated with Chromate Of Silver. The salt water discolours the Chromate, turning it into Chloride Of Silver, thus showing how far up the tube the water has reached. This distance measured against a scale shows the depth to which the tube has descended.
The machines in general are used at the manufacturers recommended max ships speed of 10 knots. Or any speed below that.
Happy now Barry?
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« Reply #67 on: November 18, 2011, 12:00:23 PM »

After the previous welter of “educational” stuff, I feel I should re-post the pic of the bridge and monkey island that I inadvertently posted yesterday.
Bridge doors…in my experience all the outside doors to the wheelhouse were of the sliding variety..so when modelling the wood “runners” should be shown.
Wind dodgers. Most modern ships have wind dodgers built in to the bridge wings…usually just a simple outwardly curved plate with a gap between it and the bridge wing front. Some are effective, some aren’t. But older ships had to make do with a bit of plank as shown. These were often more effective than the modern arrangement…but with the disadvantage that only one person could get the benefit at a time….and guess who that would be.
The “standard” compass. Generally sitting on a grating or within a shaped grating so it does fasten to the deck. I find making a compass like this reasonably easy….but as with all things fitted to a ship, it helps to have first hand knowledge of the things. Abaft the mast is the RDF aerial. A turned ally pillar with the top part filed or milled square to act as a mounting point for the 2 brass hoops and the central (brass) rod.The large locker arrangement could be either a flag locker or to contain some radio aerial connections. I really should have incorporated both…but I forgot (again).
Then the “odd ball” thingy between the mast and the compass.
It’s obviously some sort of mechanical semaphore device. HMS “Nelson” ( as built by Brian Chambers) has a very much larger version somewhere down aft. I believe that the big ones were to indicate course changes or something. For some obscure reason a course change in Naval parlance is called a “Corpen”, this word being followed by another such as “November” to indicate what sort of ship formation is required. I’ll need the advice of “Pugwash” on this one.
But back to the smaller version on the Ranger.
The principle is simple and easily seen on the model. I’m not sure if the unit was fixed or rotatable…I’d assume rotatable as a fixed one would be limited to sending messages only to ships on the beam. But of course, the thing could only be used in daylight. At night the ships would have to revert to using a red shielded Aldis lamp. A couple of things come to mind here. If the idea of using the semaphore machine was to prevent the enemy spotting the ship, it was a wasted exercise if it couldn’t be used at night. So you may as well just use the Aldis lamp during the day as well as at night. All very odd.
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Re: RFA Gold Ranger
« Reply #68 on: November 18, 2011, 12:49:21 PM »

At what appears to me to be many moons ago, I mentioned that the hole left vacant when the for’d cargo hatch was removed was my front-end lifting handle. I forgot (until now) to show you the handle for the after end.
This is a photo of it……..
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« Reply #69 on: November 18, 2011, 12:55:12 PM »

This is another one showing the handle ready for use.
Rather simple but well hidden brass tubing made telescopic with a couple of slots in the larger tube and a couple of holes through the smaller one with a pin going through the holes but able to slide up and down the slots. Both ends very firmly anchored.

And that is the end of the "Gold Ranger" saga. Thanks for reading. Bryan Young.
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« Reply #70 on: November 18, 2011, 02:24:22 PM »

...and thank you for bringing it to us! Detailed, very readable, educational, enjoyable and full of ideas  What next?

Regards

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« Reply #71 on: November 18, 2011, 02:43:23 PM »

Thanks Barry. So pleased to see that you agree that your education has been improved.
Next? Well, we'll see. For now I'm going to concentrate on our mutually beneficient project. Bryan.
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« Reply #72 on: November 19, 2011, 03:43:16 AM »

Thank you Brian. I am probably one of the many silent members that have followed this thread with interest. I have had an education as well. Your skill & knowledge is really amazing, Thank you very much, Mick B. 
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« Reply #73 on: November 19, 2011, 11:31:59 AM »


What a great post Brian.  I learned quite a few  'Tips'  there which I shall be incorporating into my builds.  I too, like the small details which can be observed, unlike my wife who says 'that's a nice colour dear!'

Keep em coming.   :-))

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« Reply #74 on: November 19, 2011, 03:17:16 PM »

Thank you Kenny and all others who have made some reponse to that little saga.
Now all I have to do is fix the damage and hopefully have it ready for the South Shields show next year. Let's just hope that the coming winter isn't as white, damp, cold and sheer miserable as the last one.
You aren't the only one who has asked "what next?".
At first I was a bit flummoxed ....but then thought.....dangerous.....why not "Recorder"? I wrote at length about my time aboard her (if any of you can remember that far back). As she will be my next re-furbishment job, once I've finished off "Bayflower", it could prove a good memory jogger. There's also the fact that it's been too many years since she made a public appearance.
So if there's any sort of response to that idea I'll have a crack at it. Regards. Bryan.
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