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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #840 on: June 28, 2012, 09:01:16 PM »

well, bar the shouting, the three lifeboats came to completion late this afternoon.........have just the lifebelts/breeches bouys to rig with their crutch support and ropes and paint tomorrow and add to the cabins and the three boats will be ready for motors and r/c installing and go play with them ( but that'll be after my holidays later in July...as I can't afford to buy 4 speed controllers befor the hols...................I will take them out of the shed tomorrow for some proper pics in the garden, but took these three pics, one of each boat this evening showing the stanchions/chains rigged and the masts too.............I am quite chuffed with them...............

In order of posting they are the Beaumaris lifeboat RNLB Field Marshal and Mr Smuts,

Cromer Lifeboat RNLB H F Bailey,

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Ballycotton lifeboat RNLB Mary Stanford  (GM..the only lifeboat ever to be awarded a Gold medal for herself)
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #841 on: June 28, 2012, 09:04:45 PM »


I'd be chuffed as well if mine looked half as good as those.   :-))

Well done to you. I suppose you are ready to go into business selling the kits now.   :}

All the best

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« Reply #842 on: June 28, 2012, 09:11:23 PM »

Quite sad that these builds have come to an end.

Absolutely fascinating and thanks for the great details of the builds.

Whats next on the bench?

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« Reply #843 on: June 28, 2012, 09:17:25 PM »

Thanks Kenny.........as for kits.......these were purely an excercise in showing what goes into developing one from start to finish............I had my fill of kit manufacturing in the mid 1990's and far too much stress for me.................I'll pass on all the stuff to Dave and he can do with it what he wants now..........but it has taken him nearly 6 years to develope the Liverpool class lifeboat that I did those years back...........so I wouldn't hold my breath, lol.

Dan............next thing on the bench.................to clean it all up, lol.........

I fancy producing moulds for the Thames Class lifeboat, and may be having a bash at one of those................once I've built a Liverpool class kit.......bit o' kit bashing.nice and easy, lol.
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #844 on: June 28, 2012, 09:57:59 PM »

What can I add to what others have said,except a big thank you for giving me ideas,and for producing such a detailed account,and then finally,to see the finished superb models.
Have a good holiday my friend,and if you are down this way,you know you and yours are more than welcome.
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« Reply #845 on: June 28, 2012, 10:25:21 PM »

thanks Mick....................and thanks for the offer............going Scotland way.........perhaps may have a sail on a Clyde Lifeboat if Iain is around.........can live with dreams............hopefully.
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« Reply #846 on: June 28, 2012, 10:33:25 PM »

Fantastic insight of what goes in to a kit ,it would be a shame if they did not go in to production thanks again Neil have a nice holiday you deserve it after that build

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« Reply #847 on: June 28, 2012, 11:11:28 PM »

cheers Peter.....................I enjoyed building them,......kept the brain working, lol..................I'll veg out now and enjoy sailing them.

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« Reply #848 on: June 29, 2012, 01:32:52 AM »


It is amazing what transformation a coat of paint and some bits and pieces, (fittings) can achieve. O0 O0 O0

Not knowing anything about 'Lifeboats' it is certainly educational to see the transformation as the build evolved.  :-)) :-)) :-))
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« Reply #849 on: June 29, 2012, 08:19:46 AM »

All Gold Medal Stuff Neil - 3 at a time too :-))
Also this thread has been just a joy to follow anyway.
How about doing a fun Springer Lifeboat sometime?

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« Reply #850 on: June 29, 2012, 08:25:52 AM »

thanks for the comments guys.........inspirational........and keeps me going.
as to a springer, Dave.....................I honestly can't latterally think that way............some people come up with absolutely corkers of designs for them and I just wonder where they get their ideas from............but I just have no ideas myself..........would take me longer to design a springer on those lines than it would to build a lifeboat from plans from scratch, lol. {:-{ {:-{ {:-{
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #851 on: June 29, 2012, 08:36:44 AM »

Now on a more serious note , while you are cleaning your shop & going on holiday I will be happy to store all three boats in a nice safe place here in Canada, LOL. I do hope you get put on that Master builders list though, you certainly deserve it. Again thank you for all the insight you have given us all. You are certainly a master builder. I won't discuss here the amount of money you have cost me having me buy two lifeboat kits to build, I did not know one end of a lifeboat from the other until you got me started. I thank you for that too. Have a great holiday Neil you deserve it. Mick B.
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« Reply #852 on: June 29, 2012, 08:57:19 AM »

Don't worry there is still plenty to do fitting the RC lol
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« Reply #853 on: June 29, 2012, 12:23:43 PM »

Now on a more serious note , while you are cleaning your shop & going on holiday I will be happy to store all three boats in a nice safe place here in Canada, LOL.

I'll gladly swap them all Mick, for  a NICE TR5/250 or Austin Healey 3litre, lol..........would even crate them up for you. O0 O0 O0 O0
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« Reply #854 on: June 29, 2012, 09:10:08 PM »

bummer, BUMMER, BUMMER!!!!!

Just when I thought I had almost finished.............I was clearing all my pots of paint, and fittings etc, ready for the mamoth clean up when I looked and gazed at my models, to see , in horror that thwe plastic vynil that I had wrapped around my windscreens on all three boats............was lifting and curling at the edges like a British Rail egg butty...........and that was after I had had them pressed under weights for about 4 weeks to make sure that they bonded.
Now in an earlier post it was recommended that I get some stick on copperconducting tape as used in model railways, but that would mean buying a roll of god knows how many meters for about 600mm...............so decided that I would paint the "frames" in satin black.

I re cut some windshield to the correct size of the frames on the boats and then masked off using "Frog tape" covering the whole of each shield.....ad then cut around the perimeters and removed that little bit of tape which will be  painted on to............hopefully this will work.

and just a word of warning to all modellers out there..............to look after their tools.
Over the last few weeks my ol' faithfull 240-12volt transformer has been flickering and cutting out..................just thought that after 25 years of constant use it was giving up the ghost.
I always have left the power on in my workshop all day long whether I am in or out of the place or even the house, winter and summer.
Yesterday whilst doing my final finishing bits and bobs..........I was working with my dremmel dril and had the transformer just to my side, when I smelt a whisp of burnt electricity...........and out the corner  of my eye I saw smoke.............I looked down at the  transformer and not smoke, but a small flame was coming from the lead to the plug...........the damn thing was shorting out in a big way......and yet my trip system in the garage to protect from this sort of thing hadn't tripped out and shut the whole place down..............I was lucky..........had I gone out without seeing this, I might not have three lifeboats to talk about now, as grp, timber dust and other flamables don't mix with burning electricity.

I was b***** lucky yesterday, and have learned a valuable lesson.....swith off even if only going for a "p"
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« Reply #855 on: June 29, 2012, 09:31:24 PM »

I think we are all guilty to some degree of leaving things on when we shouldn't.

Lucky escape,  :o

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« Reply #856 on: June 29, 2012, 09:37:13 PM »


 Hi Neil
 
 Models look FANTASTIC, as for your transformer check for loose wire in the plug or a broken wire in the flex

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« Reply #857 on: June 29, 2012, 10:02:18 PM »

th\anks guys.
I took the transformer apart last night Paul............and it was the main power wire to the plug..............over the years it had bent so much that the inner flex had cracked.......crossing the power from live to neutral ( no earth wire in it) and so I replaced the wire to the plug.
cheers, neil. :-))
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« Reply #858 on: June 29, 2012, 10:40:15 PM »

Neil,

Need to get your tripping device checked.

Don't know about UK but In OZ we can manually test our circuit breakers (240V) to ensure they work also you may need to check the rating is not too high.

Like fuses in boat models if too high the appliance will burn out before the circuit breaker trips.

It is compulsory in here in Queensland to also fit an Earth core leakage device which simply put is super sensitive "fuse" and trips the entire system when just a trickle leaks to earth such as in a short. Well worth the money a couple of hundred dollars versus hundreds of thousands for the house etc.

Some tech stuff here http://www.alia.com.au/techtopics/elcb.htm
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« Reply #859 on: June 29, 2012, 10:47:27 PM »

thanks RR............funilly the system tripped the other day when just a starter went in one of  my florry lights......when I went to change the starter it broke inside the light and so ( being a prat) I stuck some long nose pliers in to try getting it out..........the system tripped ok then but have learned a valuable lesson and now switch off when I come into the house..........one flick in the kitchen kills the whole place dead.
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« Reply #860 on: July 01, 2012, 02:59:51 PM »

I took two of the boats into the sunlight for the first time a couple of days ago and took some shots of Mary Stanford and Smuts in their finished state, except for putting the lifebelts/breaches bouys on the cabins( forgot)....the sunlight hides the dust.........will wait for a more clemment day to take some of the H F Bailey.
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« Reply #861 on: July 01, 2012, 03:01:42 PM »

and the last one of that batch
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Re: 3 Lifeboat builds, What goes into a model kit.
« Reply #862 on: July 01, 2012, 04:04:07 PM »

Trips are normally earth leakage circuit breakers.
They will trip if there is a short to earth.
They dont see anything wrong with a live neutral
short which you had on your isolating transformer.
Thankfully your wonderful mpdels are still intact.

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« Reply #863 on: July 01, 2012, 09:37:32 PM »

They look fabulous Neil, stunning, can't wait to see them in the flesh.

Dave.  :-)) :-)) :-))

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« Reply #864 on: July 01, 2012, 09:59:07 PM »

cheers matey......looking forward to getting them down the lake...........going to put the motors and shafts  in them tomorrow......now, where's the vaseline, lol %% %% %%
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« Reply #865 on: July 02, 2012, 04:17:50 PM »

Aah Vaseline. Water soluble methinks.
Why then,do we use it to lubricate shafts?
I do and it works. Why doesn't it dissolve?

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« Reply #866 on: July 02, 2012, 05:29:14 PM »

It is insoluble in water Ned. It is soluble in dichloromethane, chloroform, benzene, diethyl ether, carbon disulfide and oil of turpentine.

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« Reply #867 on: July 02, 2012, 06:38:33 PM »

I.ve been using it to grease my prop tubes and shafts for years...........and have never had any water ingress what so ever.............so will carry on with that one.
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« Reply #868 on: July 03, 2012, 05:58:04 AM »

So whats the next project?
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« Reply #869 on: July 03, 2012, 08:54:57 AM »

It is insoluble in water Ned. It is soluble in dichloromethane, chloroform, benzene, diethyl ether, carbon disulfide and oil of turpentine.

Dave

I stand corrected Dave.
Just read the Wiki.
There was a topic on the forum some time ago when a couple of the more experienced members stated it was water soluble,
so I took it as read. Just goes to show even the gurus don't get it right all the time.  >>:-(  >>:-(  >>:-(

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« Reply #870 on: July 03, 2012, 08:58:29 AM »

I am undecided, as yet............am toying with making moulds for the 50' Thames class lifeboat...........I have the plans for that, but it was a bit of an ugly duckling that didn't turn into a beautiful swan, unlike the "Smuts".................but I am hoping that Dave Metcalf will have his Liverpool class lifeboat out by October Blackpool show, and if he has I'll be building one of those from a kit for a change.
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« Reply #871 on: July 03, 2012, 09:26:09 AM »

Hi guys...On the subject of vaseline, I used it for years and then i discovered Carlube aquaslip marine waterproof grease which prevents corrosion from saltwater, which is very handy when on the saltwater Fleetwood lake...trawlerman
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« Reply #872 on: July 03, 2012, 10:41:22 AM »

I'll be round later for some, lol
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« Reply #873 on: July 03, 2012, 10:47:55 AM »

Here it is
http://www.carlube.co.uk/index.cfm?product=109
and some word asociation - Fleetwood - Saltwater - Ribble Fox - Mayhem. I wonder what he did with the tug?

Neil if you ever found time I'd love to see you take on one of those beak bow lifeboats from France 8)

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« Reply #874 on: July 03, 2012, 12:22:58 PM »

ah yes..........forgot about those, Dave......now one of those at 1:12 and I'd have a crack at building.....bit more interesting than the new Shannon class........

any one got a set of plans and some photos to lend??????
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