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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1295 on: February 22, 2009, 06:54:34 PM »
Hi Jason

Are the 777 motors more powerful than a 540? If so you have not got a springer you have a submarine. My springers have 540 motors in them and at full power they will dive, even with the batteries set towards the stern.
At full power I have had about an inch of water pouring over the front of the springer and getting deeper. You might want to consider smaller motors, also do not forget to build a coaming around the opening in your deck mine is 25mm high all round and sealed to the superstructure.

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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1296 on: February 22, 2009, 07:06:21 PM »
How comes I'm the only one who has to add about 1lb of lead to the front of my springers to get it down...... lets see how my next 2 float--- :-))
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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1297 on: February 22, 2009, 07:14:52 PM »
Quote from: chingdevil on February 22, 2009, 06:54:34 PM
My springers have 540 motors in them and at full power they will dive, even with the batteries set towards the stern.
Brian

We we must agree with that, last year at Wicksteed, Brian's Springer was certainly the fastest, most powerful. and had
almost the best run time of all of them.
.... we never did see inside his Springer..... <*<

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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1298 on: February 22, 2009, 07:33:40 PM »
I think he was running 12v myself



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chingdevil

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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1299 on: February 22, 2009, 07:58:17 PM »
Sounds like sour grapes to me,<*< <*< <*< <*<


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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1300 on: February 22, 2009, 08:43:11 PM »
hi chingdevil

i do not no if the 777 have more power than the 540 motor but i will only be running on 6volt hope that it will be ok i will get back to on that one as for the coaming it will be 30 to 40mm high i do not realy wot a sub thanks for the help

regards jason  :-))
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chingdevil

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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1301 on: February 22, 2009, 09:40:53 PM »
Hi Jason

Mine only runs on 6 volt, I have two 6volt 4ah SLA's useful as ballast. They are wired in parallel to get the best run time for the springer.

Brian
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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1302 on: February 23, 2009, 04:24:56 AM »
Quote from: tugboyben on February 22, 2009, 06:33:47 PM

parts list
model motors direct 777
robbe 50mm kort nozzle
hitec servo
7 inch prop shaft
45 mm 4 blade prop
speed controller


If those are Proboat ESC's you may want to reconsider using those...
They are not known for their low end speed and seem to cut in at about 1/3rd throttle...
Mtronics are much better at low end speeds.

Looking good though Tugboyben  :D
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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1303 on: February 23, 2009, 06:21:31 AM »
hi toesupwa

thanks for that i have two mtronics 15amp speed controllers i can give them ago when i get them on the water :-))

regards jason
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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1304 on: February 23, 2009, 07:16:33 PM »
hi all

well moving a long with the build props & kort nozzles guled in i got my hands on some more motors mfa torpedo 500 6:1 ratio the output of the motor at @ 6v 1316 rpm & output @ 12v 2633 rpm wot do u think i will be happy for the comments

regards jason
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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1305 on: February 23, 2009, 07:47:42 PM »
Tell me are they easy to make. Could make a change from my normal go nuts out Makara and Hydro.
Could be a bit of FUN???
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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1306 on: February 23, 2009, 07:50:09 PM »
Bill
They are really easy to make,if i can do it anyone can
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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1307 on: February 23, 2009, 08:51:36 PM »
hi bill

very easy build go on build one i have only got 5 hours work in two i no a long way to go motors will be in tomorrow i hope i can't wait to get started on the super structures :-)

regards jason
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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1308 on: February 23, 2009, 10:25:17 PM »
Yes Cheer for all the encouragement. May be I will get round to it soon. Watch this space???
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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1309 on: February 23, 2009, 10:48:25 PM »
Theres nowt wrong with 12v , thats why there are two 6v bats in mine .
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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1310 on: February 23, 2009, 10:50:33 PM »
Bill, shall we do the NitroSpring? I've got an engine for it...
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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1311 on: February 23, 2009, 10:54:56 PM »
Hi Andy
Im doing nothing for a bit. you know why. Just an Idear at this stage. See what bits I can get in HK.
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« Reply #1312 on: February 23, 2009, 10:59:17 PM »
Fair does. I expect I'll be able to nab borrow some suitable ply from school
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tugboyben

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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1313 on: February 24, 2009, 07:49:32 PM »
hi all

got a bit more done today finished the props  korts nozzles on to the motors mount made servos for the korts nozzles & fit batterys tomorrow

regards jason :-))
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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1314 on: February 27, 2009, 06:52:10 PM »
Quote from: Bill D203 on February 23, 2009, 07:47:42 PM
Tell me are they easy to make. Could make a change from my normal go nuts out Makara and Hydro.
Could be a bit of FUN???
OK so it's time to own up. I thought I should give this Tug biasness a go in time for Wicksteed park.  I was not sure on the power plant? Then hiding under my bench this old engine. With a little bit of work i got it back to life. As you can see I have lots to do. Should be good for Wicksteed Mayhem.
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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1315 on: February 27, 2009, 08:04:05 PM »
Bill
I always thought you fast boys are nuts,no you have confirmed it  :}
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« Reply #1316 on: February 27, 2009, 08:21:08 PM »
Ah, the fastest submarine in Christendom.  You could have waited till April 1st {-) {-) {-) {-)
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tugboyben

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« Reply #1317 on: February 27, 2009, 09:13:00 PM »
hi bill

WOW I LOVE IT PICTURE PLEASE WHEN U GET ON THE WATER  {-) {-) {-)

REGARDS JASON
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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1318 on: February 27, 2009, 09:18:25 PM »
Quote from: Bill D203 on February 27, 2009, 06:52:10 PM

OK so it's time to own up.

I'm trying to think of a word...

Ummm...

Ummm...

'Nuts'  {-) ... that will do for now...
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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1319 on: February 27, 2009, 11:46:14 PM »
OK All i can say " IT HAD TO BE DONE" :-))
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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1320 on: February 28, 2009, 10:11:42 PM »
Hi Bill (you nutter) - how about a "tunnel hull" springer?  You need something on the front to keep it up  %)
Heavy duty swivel push arms (don't know the techy name?) which lower into the 'tunnel' position.
Precision drawings below. Easy!
Glad to see your keeping the mad good name of IC alive and well  %% %%

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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1321 on: March 01, 2009, 02:33:54 AM »
Quote from: tugboyben on February 23, 2009, 07:16:33 PM
hi all

well moving a long with the build props & kort nozzles guled in i got my hands on some more motors mfa torpedo 500 6:1 ratio the output of the motor at @ 6v 1316 rpm & output @ 12v 2633 rpm wot do u think i will be happy for the comments

regards jason

Jason

I run a couple of my Springers with the Robbe Navy motors geared 5:1 turning a 50mm prop inside a Robbe kort nozzle. I have been very happy with this combination at 6 volts. Lots of precision control :-)) However, I do not have the full skeg that you show on your boats. Looking good!

Best regards

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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1322 on: March 01, 2009, 03:19:47 AM »
Well Chingdevil I bet you will have met your match with Bill's creation



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« Reply #1323 on: March 01, 2009, 07:51:56 AM »
hi tugboat andy

thanks do you have some pictures of your springers i will post more picture soon of my build  :-))

kind regards jason
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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1324 on: March 01, 2009, 11:26:51 AM »
Stav

You could be right there, but I want to see it run before I worry too much. Not much of a coaming and a very big opening, the word "Dive, Dive, Dive" spring to mind :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))

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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1325 on: March 01, 2009, 02:46:27 PM »
Got its bottom wet today,very fast and manouverable,now i see why coaming is important.



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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1326 on: March 02, 2009, 12:04:13 AM »
Quote from: tugboyben on March 01, 2009, 07:51:56 AM
hi tugboat andy

thanks do you have some pictures of your springers i will post more picture soon of my build  :-))

kind regards jason

Hello Jason - I need to figure out how to resize my photos before I can post them here....Most of my pictures are over at RC Groups on the Springer thread.

Attached is the first boat I built. I have almost completely done away with the skeg on the two boats I am building now. They turn on a dime....er,uh....well you get the idea. :-))
« Last Edit: March 02, 2009, 12:19:39 AM by Tugboat Andy »
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« Reply #1327 on: March 02, 2009, 05:51:21 AM »
Here is an attempt at a few re-sized photos. My apologies, please bare with me on this. :embarrassed:
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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1328 on: March 02, 2009, 09:02:57 AM »
Some superb Springers here, so here is my effort, based on my son's tanker, The Tessa PG..
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« Reply #1329 on: March 03, 2009, 01:27:06 AM »
At the prompting of arrow 5, I've started a Springer. It'll have a Canadian flavour. Several upper decks reflecting that image have come to mind. I'll post photos when done.
  We've also decided to use this design as a club build. I think its a good way to get some members familiar with various techniques used in building more complicated vessels. Also it gives them confidence in doing a first scratch build.

John
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