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[ministeve]

Scots for tea i hope (big gulp) :-\

[arrow5]

A group of lawyers were fishing offshore in shark infested waters and one fell overboard , a crew member shouted "Sharks ! man overboard" and rushed to help. One of the lawyers said " dont worry, he`ll be ok", the crew member shouted "Why?".   "Professional courtesy" was the reply.  I tried to teach my dog to bite lawyers but he wouldnt touch tainted meat.  The difference between a dead skunk on the road and a dead lawyer on the road? No skid marks in front of the lawyer. A lawyer was killed while chasing an ambulance, he didnt see the reversing lights were on. Cant remember the rest of these quotes from RCGroups boaties.   Stevie; Whitehaven too far to come for another go at RO5 and a couple of other "biggies"? That was a great day at Ellesmere on the canal.

[hiapita]

Hello everyone, I got my boat wet for the first time today and I am very pleased with the way it goes. It turns in a couple of boat lengths and I was very suprised how fast it went and it also does a good impression of a submarine on full power, I think it was the prop, we used an x35 as it was the only one we had at the time and it lifted the back up alot, we will also need to adust the ballast and put less weight in the front and a bit more in the back.
My dad took some pictures of me sailing it I hope you like them.

 Hannah.

[tigertiger]

Hi Hannah

It looks good on the water. Well done.

I have another question/comment.
I notice a couple of nice schooners in the background.
The three masted one looks very nice.

Who owns them? Are they a club member?

[mogsy]

Hi Hannah (&Dad),  tug looks as good on here as it did up at Cwmbran this morning. Me and my dad and sister could see it from the other end of the lake it is so bright and cheery.

It'll be a race against time for my dad to build one before Graham finishes his Alkhubar tug build sometime in June.
So little time on his hands and he has to clear out the shed to make work space (Mummy not impressed with him using dining table for hobbies).

Good luck at mayhem weekend (Your dad said you were going)
see you at the lake next time our dad doesnt take us to Sunday school. (Mummy not impressed... again!!!) >:(

Dominic & Francesca

[hiapita]

Hi tigertiger, I don't know who owns the other boat in the picture as I have not belonged to the club for very long but he is a club member, I will try to find out for you and get some more pics for you.

Mogsy why not pm me and I might be able to talk dad into building one for you if your dad hasn't got time.

 Hannah.

[tigertiger]

Hi Hannah

Your Dad is gonna love you for offereing his boat building services 


Thanks for the info about the Schooners. And good luck at the Mayhem weekend.

[funtimefrankie]

I think you'd need a strong stomach to sail on one of these, and some dry clothes for after.

[kendalboatsman]

Hi FTF,

That looks fun, makes me think I should make my lifeboat version self righting

Clive :)

[arrow5]

Wheee ! you`ve got bow-thrusters fitted in that one, 4 wheel drift on the bottom pic.  You better read the posts on the RCGroups forum about how they handle and how "wet" they can be. Hanna found out about their submarine tendencies  :-[! They aint speed-boats by any stretch of the imagination.

[arrow5]

"Sprinkler" fireboat hits the water on MacPuffer`s still engine-less hull. Must flash the plastic soon  :(

[kendalboatsman]

Hi Arrow5,

I already read about how wet they are before I started building mine, hence the foam and watertight compartments in case it capsizes. I will build the superstructure and try to get it water/air tight like on the ECO class fast electric. That way if I do roll it, it should self right. I have only ever sunk two boats and that was two too many

Clive :)

[arrow5]

Good idea , floatation compartments going in mine too.

[toesupwa]

I think you'd need a strong stomach to sail on one of these, and some dry clothes for after.

LOL... 

Now THATS a Springer roll!

Try to keep the batteries as low in the hull as possible, a coaming inside your access as high as possible.. and build the superstructure as light as possible.  Yes they will heel over... and become submarines if you try going TOO fast... I've packed the corners (see earlier construction pics) of the hull with foam to try and add floatation... though i doubt if it will help in a 'real crash dive'.. :'(

Tigger wont roll right over even though the 'heel' is considerable in a tight turn. Templeton, with a lighter superstructure doesnt heel over as much.

[toesupwa]

"Sprinkler" fireboat hits the water on MacPuffer`s still engine-less hull. Must flash the plastic soon  :(

Niiiiiiicccceeee job Arrow.....

Two thumbs up from Mrs Toes.... and Mr Toes! (or should that be toes up?) 

[Marks Model Bits]

when me and hannah took her springer out last sunday we took it carefully to start with, however hannah did sail her boat across the wake of another boat, her springer submarined as she was going fairly fast at the time and the water was half way up the superstructure for 2/3 seconds, i thought holy sh1t she is a goner but she came back to the surface we brought it back in to check for water inside and it was bone dry. we have got no floatation in it just a light, very close fitting superstructure and coaming which is about 1 inch high.

 mark.

[arrow5]

Thanks Toesies . It is a bit quiet in here...everybody busy sailing or building during this hot Spring period here in UK ? Any new Anglo-Springers?

[Martin (Admin)]

I'm building a Fireboat Springer - a Sprinkler! 

.... where can I get a sound module with a British "Deee Daaar" 2 tone horn?

[funtimefrankie]

http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=25238&doy=4m5

[kendalboatsman]

Thanks Toesies . It is a bit quiet in here...everybody busy sailing or building during this hot Spring period here in UK ? Any new Anglo-Springers?

Or repairing decorating damage  :(



Nearly re-plastered the blown sections of plaster so I can make a start on the springer's superstructure.

Clive

[arrow5]

I'm building a Fireboat Springer - a Sprinkler! 

Bah ..copy cat, I`ll just have call mine "Skoosher" then >:(. Have a look at Umi`s on the "other place" (under Voight-Schnieder available in Dock Talk). An inspiration and a tour de force, LA Fireboat 2, talented lady.  Wondering about squirting water, any ideas for novice, windscreen washers , needs 12v ?

[arrow5]

Come on Kendal, we all know you just mixed too much filler so you can fill-in the dings on your Springer !  Looks like shum mishtake on my lasht poshht :-[

[Martin (Admin)]

Naa, I just got some red paint lying around!  ::)

Bah ..copy cat, I`ll just have call mine "Skoosher" then >:(. Have a look at Umi`s on the "other place" (under Voight-Schnieder available in Dock Talk). An inspiration and a tour de force, LA Fireboat 2, talented lady.  Wondering about squirting water, any ideas for novice, windscreen washers , needs 12v ?

[toesupwa]

I'm building a Fireboat Springer - a Sprinkler! 

Wondering about squirting water, any ideas for novice, windscreen washers , needs 12v ?

Yes, it can be done with a washer pump.. but on 12v... you might want to try it on 6v to see how effective it is or try to find a 6v pump...

[arrow5]

That is terrific Toes. Is it yours?  The monitors are nice, custom made? Not much red paint required then  ::)   P.S. Oh yes it is your`s ! Had another look and spotted your trademark distress flag signal again( inverted Union Flag) 

[Martin (Admin)]

..... a couple of links for Fireboaters...!


http://www.vac-u-boat.com/FireBoat.htm

http://www.vac-u-boat.com/Don's%20Fire%20Boat.htm

[arrow5]

Thanks Boss, is this going to end up "getting it up over the playground wall" ???? ( Oh how we laughed  ) 

[tobyker]

In order to reduce submarining tendencies at full chat, how about a wing on the end of the skeg to prevent the stern lifting? If it's fixed, it's not a rudder, and indeed if you used twin rudders it could be a rudder post end support bracket and not a wing at all, oh dear me no.

[Willit]

Here's mine in the style of a British Waterways Bantam tug......

would you believe thats exactly the superstructure I had in mind for mine? 

I'm afraid after seeing the whole "Springer" thing in the main site and seeing the print out side elevations, the idea kept nagging at the back of my mind to make one.  Finally after handing in my DT coursework and having a whole morning of nought to do in the school workshop, I grabbed some wood and built the hull.  Then this morning I kept looking at it and thought, "hmm better make it go".  A quick bit of scrap box raiding and I was able to produce a lot of the hardware needed.  I'm getting an old RC set off a friend for a fiver next week so hopefully I should have a working hull by the end of Wednesday, or not, I suspect the transmitter is a goner  :-\, at least I'll get a reciever and some servos, and I can just use Willits transmitter.  Unfortunately I made mine a little bit too long, more like 19 and a half inches!  Also I only had a 2 bladed prop handy for the prop shaft I used.  And yes before anyone asks, the bow and transom (not to mention a lot of the rest of it) is made out of 2 x 1 softwood.  I'm afraid my school doesn't go in for things like balsa, it was all I could do to get the thin ply for the bottom!  You know I said I did a bit of scrap box raiding?  By that I mean I forcibly removed (hammer) all the fittings from an old piranha boat that really was past it, which is why the prop tube is covered in old epoxy!

[arrow5]

In order to reduce submarining tendencies at full chat, how about a wing on the end of the skeg to prevent the stern lifting? If it's fixed, it's not a rudder, and indeed if you used twin rudders it could be a rudder post end support bracket and not a wing at all, oh dear me no.

                                                                                                                                                                                                           How about the bar that comes out from the keel to the bottom of the rudder, is anybody fitting them ? This could be the place to put "wings" or plates to stop the ploughing. I get the feeling some folk have forgotten the concept of a tug. If you want to go fast dont build a flat-sided pudding bowl. Or build a top that looks like the sail/conning tower of an Akula and charge full speed till it acts like a submarine on purpose   Hey good start killit, keep us informed when you next raid the parts-bin. BTW , I`d reduce the mass of the rear midship cross-brace if it isnt too late. Knock that one out and replace it with full depth ply same as hull-side to make a water-tight open top box.  Keep weight down low. Are you going to support the prop shaft ?

[kendalboatsman]

Morning Arrow5,

You still after a 6v washer pump, apparently some early VW vehicles had 6v electrics. Could try VW specialists for one.

Finally made a start on the Superstructure. Building it my usual way ( making it up as I go along with no drawings ) and using 2mm balsa. How's that for keeping the weight low. I have built a Tyne style wheelhouse and will add some photos when I finish building the superstructure. Have also turned the wheelhouse into a big sealed box, Will put the batteries in prior to radio gear and test it's self righting properties

Shame you won't be at Wicksteed with McPuffer.

Clive :)

PS Nice job Willits.  So how many Springers are being built now? And how many will be at Wicksteed?

[chingdevil]

My Springer is built and will be at Wickstead, just finishing th paint work as we speak.
Willit if you need a TX and Rx for your Springer I have a Bycmo 27Mz AM set complete with two servos just collecting dust, PM me your snail mail and its yours.


The otehr Brian

[arrow5]

Nice Ching.

[arrow5]

Any thoughts on Tobyker`s (and my ) idea about extensions on rear end mods, if you know what I mean,skegs, plates etc. or should we just accept the limitations of the design. There is always the throttle control !   Mayhem Weekend....hmmmm, I`ll be there in spirit and waitng a full report here . Take your cameras. Any Scots activity on Springers ? Largs? Buckie?

[toesupwa]

Any thoughts on Tobyker`s (and my ) idea about extensions on rear end mods, if you know what I mean,skegs, plates etc. or should we just accept the limitations of the design. There is always the throttle control !

There was a discussion (on the other 'board') about adding winglets, similar to F1 racing cars under the rear of a Springer to see if it would hold the stern down when at speed and stop the 'diving' tendancies of a Springer. I have been carving wing shapes ready to fit to Tigger, but have yet to try them to see what effect they have. One problem i CAN see though is that the stern 'digs in' when doing reasonable speed turns and a winglet may make the situation worse.. 

Yes Arrow, the Sun XXVI is mine.. and yes, the Union Jack is inverted.. 

Its nice to see how many Springers are being built / have been built over there in GB and we (the colonies  ) are looking forwards to reports and pics from some of the up and coming meetings..