Topic: Springer Tugs (Read 192540 times)

toesupwa · « **Reply #385 on:** June 14, 2007, 05:40:02 PM »

Quote from: arrow5 on June 14, 2007, 05:11:33 PM

So has Mrs toes checked her trinket-box for chains recently ? I`m trying to persuade my wife to invest in dull grey or black items of jewelry, even rust colour I believe is fashionable....pass it on

Try finding a 'beading' (its what the ladies dooo) store.. its a goldmine for those small chains and little 'items'

norry · « **Reply #386 on:** June 15, 2007, 11:27:49 PM »

...Hi Guys...

A wee picture & update on my Spriger Build...

I hope to have it finished for the Tug-In at Greenock on Sunday...

It will be named "TIBER 65" after the Amateur Football team that I am involved with...

The Football Boots (door springy things) can be screwed on when required them removed again for Barge Pushing...

I hope you like it...All The Best...Norry...

arrow5 · « **Reply #387 on:** June 16, 2007, 07:51:37 AM »

Some serious deck fittings there Norry. Towing very much in mind then? Looking good. Stick-on windows ?

arrow5 · « **Reply #388 on:** June 18, 2007, 08:52:34 AM »

The Greenock "Tug-In" was a blast and four intruder Springers were seen to be getting up to antics of a less serious nature. Norry was busy so his lad Johnny took the Springer out to do some tugging of his own, a very good he was.

norry · « **Reply #389 on:** June 18, 2007, 10:43:29 AM »

...Hi Arrow5...

I,m glad you enjoyed yourself yesterday at the Tug-In. It was a fantatic day, Way beyond our expectations...I assume you had a safe journey home...

As you say in your last message " Norry was busy" Too busy to take any pictures...

Would it be possible to have a copy of your pictures on a CD so that i can make up an event folder for Myself & The Greenock Model Boat Club, who as stand in hosts for the day were also fantastic...

...A Good Day Was Had By All Who Attended...

...Best Regards...Norry...

arrow5 · « **Reply #390 on:** June 18, 2007, 11:03:54 AM »

No probs Norry. I`ll get a disc burned with about 60 shots of the goings-on and you can name names and so on. The tugs were VERY impressive and very nice bunch of guys and gals. The crack was good and somebody bought me lunch. I enjoyed the day .....but I wish I`d known about the "weed end" of the dam !!!!! Dont forget Loch Insh in Sept, maybe we can repay your hospitality.

arrow5 · « **Reply #391 on:** June 18, 2007, 11:14:19 AM »

Oh yes.... there were four Springers and an impromptu game of footy ensued. Wee Johnny scored a goal against the "big boy", not saying who but I hope he was embarrassed

I just kept out of it ( no reverse or throttle,borrowed radio, weed on the prop excuses excuses)

arrow5 · « **Reply #392 on:** June 18, 2007, 11:28:10 AM »

....and proof. Goooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaal !!!!!!!!!!!

arrow5 · « **Reply #393 on:** June 18, 2007, 12:29:58 PM »

.....footballer takes up teaching instead.

Young member of public has a go.....

arrow5 · « **Reply #394 on:** June 18, 2007, 12:33:18 PM »

...and so does mum. ( Note the Arrow fleet at her feet.)

poll · « **Reply #395 on:** June 18, 2007, 08:37:10 PM »

Just co's I've had a bath Dad I'ts not time for Bed is it.

BlazingPenguin · « **Reply #396 on:** June 18, 2007, 09:18:38 PM »

Of course we should point out the fact the wee fella got a much better score than his daddy did !

arrow5 · « **Reply #397 on:** June 19, 2007, 06:53:42 AM »

Quote from: BlazingPenguin on June 18, 2007, 09:18:38 PM

Of course we should point out the fact the wee fella got a much better score than his daddy did !

Aha, but we want to know ..was he pushed or did he fall in ? I think it wis the big yin that he hammered in the football game. Wee johnny, ahead of his faithers footsteps already !

Martin (Admin) · « **Reply #398 on:** June 20, 2007, 09:21:09 AM »

Here an interesting site - loads of photos of Springers big and small....

http://www.towboatgallery.com/The_Towboat_Gallery.php

chingdevil · « **Reply #399 on:** June 20, 2007, 01:01:58 PM »

I have just started to build a 1 2/4 scale pusher tug (springer shape). I found a drawing on the internet at a company who builds them but they never sent me any details so I just photocopied the jpeg up and down until I got the scale dimensions. I will post some pictures soon, daughter has gone to Spain and borrowed my digital camera >:( >:(
The original drawing of this boat said it only had a draught of 5 feet, scale 2.5 inches this will definitely ship water at any speed.

The other Brian

arrow5 · « **Reply #400 on:** June 20, 2007, 02:54:47 PM »

The Towboat Gallery is just that "Towboats". We mustn`t confuse the Springer with any old towboat, although "Little Toot" would be a cinche for a scale Springer-like towboat. As I said in an early post a Springer is a specific class of boat with dimensions, power, prop size all specified. The appealing aspect of the Springer is that from the waterline up you can make any superstructure you fancy. Towboats are the inspiration and a great source of shapes, I hope we dont fall into the trap of calling all pusher tugs Springers. Sorry to sound pedantic but we do have US readers and it could cause confusion.

Ed-Teach · « **Reply #401 on:** June 20, 2007, 05:09:51 PM »

Quote from: arrow5 on June 20, 2007, 02:54:47 PM

The Towboat Gallery is just that "Towboats". We mustn`t confuse the Springer with any old towboat, although "Little Toot" would be a cinche for a scale Springer-like towboat. As I said in an early post a Springer is a specific class of boat with dimensions, power, prop size all specified. The appealing aspect of the Springer is that from the waterline up you can make any superstructure you fancy. Towboats are the inspiration and a great source of shapes, I hope we dont fall into the trap of calling all pusher tugs Springers. Sorry to sound pedantic but we do have US readers and it could cause confusion.

Arrow5

Couldn't agree more.. Wouldn't want to get into that debate.. These Springers are a great Fun Boat and the rules are there to make it enjoyable for everyone. Keeping it Fun is what it's all about.

Loved the Photos, especially seeing the Kids have a go. Next Generation Modellers getting a head start.. Keep it up, I say..

chingdevil · « **Reply #402 on:** June 20, 2007, 06:33:55 PM »

Springer Tugs are based on just the type of pusher tug that Toot is. Look at most truckable pusher tugs in the US and they basically have the same hull shape as a Springer. Americans call this type of boat a towboat
Springers are a class of boat designed to be easy to build and then equal in a competition, but the original design is based on an actual boat. How do the English get confused when the Americans do not?

I said I was building a pusher tug (springer shape) how is that confusing?

The other Brian

arrow5 · « **Reply #403 on:** June 20, 2007, 07:37:06 PM »

Ching, I think your post was perfectly phrased and correct in every way. My comment was directed at Martin`s reference to the excellent towboat site in which he referred to them as Springers. The US river barge-pushing type of craft isn't all that common in the UK and the Springer phenomena is just catching on so it is easy for confusion to set in, like all vacuum cleaners being called Hoovers. I must admit I went a wee bit daft when I put a Puffer top on mine but that was just to confuse the English even more. At least I have a couple more tops of more realistic shapes.

toesupwa · « **Reply #404 on:** June 20, 2007, 08:06:05 PM »

.. and just to confuse the issue..

Scoot.. with a 2 1/4" prop and a KORT nozzle..

Its a Springer... honest Mister :-*

chingdevil · « **Reply #405 on:** June 20, 2007, 08:12:29 PM »

Well Toesupa it looks and smells like a real Springer, but I am not so sure

Nice looking model, does the Kort nozzle make it more maneuverable than a springer with a standard rudder, only my one will turn virtually turn on itself.

The other Brian

toesupwa · « **Reply #406 on:** June 20, 2007, 08:18:24 PM »

Quote from: chingdevil on June 20, 2007, 08:12:29 PM

Well Toesupa it looks and smells like a real Springer, but I am not so sure
Nice looking model, does the Kort nozzle make it more maneuverable than a springer with a standard rudder, only my one will turn virtually turn on itself.

The other Brian

Well.. it started out as a Springer...

It seems more manouverable than Tigger (standard setup) is, and will turn in its own length.. If you have seen a Voith powered tractor tug doing pirouettes, its kinda like that... Oh, did i mention its 12v too..

Thanks for the complement too..

Martin (Admin) · « **Reply #407 on:** June 20, 2007, 08:25:14 PM »

Quote from: toesupwa on June 20, 2007, 08:06:05 PM

Its a Springer... honest Mister :-*

WoW!!! A Gold Class compition Springer!

arrow5 · « **Reply #408 on:** June 20, 2007, 08:53:10 PM »

Yup ! Gold Medal.

arrow5 · « **Reply #409 on:** June 24, 2007, 04:08:50 PM »

It is very quiet in here....any more UK Springers yet ? Knees going on "Maid o`Irn" today, (it`s raining).

norry · « **Reply #410 on:** June 24, 2007, 10:15:20 PM »

...Hi Arrow5...

What motor do you use in your Springers ? ...Or what motor would you recommend ? ...I am having problems with the Decaperm in Johnny,s boat so I am going to replace it....I can run on 6 or 12 volts...

Also what is the correct waterline on a Springer...I noticed that Johnny,s boat sat a bit higher in the water than Steve Jones,s boat...If you could give me the correct measurment from the Deckline down to the Waterline I could alter it if required...I have made Johhny,s boat with a rise on the deck of 12mm from stern to bow...

I laid up the first GRP Springer hull on Thursday night so I will find out this week how it went...

...All The Best...Norry...

toesupwa · « **Reply #411 on:** June 25, 2007, 06:06:39 AM »

There were a few Springers at the Seaway Cup in San Francisco this weekend..

I understand Springers took 1st, 3rd AND 4th...

toesupwa · « **Reply #412 on:** June 25, 2007, 06:15:49 AM »

Quote from: norry on June 24, 2007, 10:15:20 PM

...Hi Arrow5...

What motor do you use in your Springers ? ...Or what motor would you recommend ? ....I can run on 6 or 12 volts...

Also what is the correct waterline on a Springer...I noticed that Johnny,s boat sat a bit higher in the water than Steve Jones,s boat...If you could give me the correct measurment from the Deckline down to the Waterline I could alter it if required...I have made Johhny,s boat with a rise on the deck of 12mm from stern to bow...

Any 6v motor will do.. I run 6v ex car motors in Tigger and Templeton. To keep it 'legal' and within the rules, Springers are limited to 6v - 7.2v.

The waterline should fall 30 - 35mm DOWN from the stern.... and be at the underside to bow joint at the front. You will find a Sprinder handles a little better to be slightly stern heavy compared to the waterline

arrow5 · « **Reply #413 on:** June 25, 2007, 11:55:47 AM »

Thanks Toes nice pic....any silverware from SF event? ::) Norry; Toes gave you the answers, MacPuffer picture at rest shows how she is rigged, slightly tail heavy, same with Maid but the stern does seem to rise a bit under power but no submarining tendencies. Power is 450 standard "can" from Maplins, not a bad deal at about £7 as it comes fully suppressed ( three thingies already soldered on) and a bent metal mount. They also carry a line of sealed LA batteries ( AM 6-4.5) 6v, 4.5Ah which are very suitable. I run a 35mm Graupner 3 blade plastic prop and on "Maid" a 40mm cut down to 35 seems to work OK. I also have the motors water cooled as they seemed very hot to me even with some cooling holes ( inside the cludge and wheelhouse). Glad the photo discs were OK, sorry about other stuff on them. Before you ask I`m NOT planning a Springer floating restuarant !!!!!

arrow5 · « **Reply #414 on:** June 25, 2007, 12:01:31 PM »

..and the tail rising on "Maid". Loch Insh seaplane event is weekend 8th-9th Sept. Hope we can get a rake of Springers as diversion.

toesupwa · « **Reply #415 on:** June 27, 2007, 04:28:20 AM »

Quote from: arrow5 on June 25, 2007, 11:55:47 AM

Thanks Toes nice pic....any silverware from SF event?

Not for team Toes... :-[ although 4th wasnt bad considering it was Scoot's 2nd time in the water and i wasnt even planning on entering the event on Sunday :-\

ro88o · « **Reply #416 on:** June 30, 2007, 02:47:29 PM »

Hi,

Anybody up for a game of football at the Warwick show to show off our Springers

see the post on the shows heading and if we get enough boats we could have a football game

ro88o

arrow5 · « **Reply #417 on:** June 30, 2007, 03:15:08 PM »

Ro88o ; Yeah go for it Sassenachs, ye`ll need the practise for a Scotland/England international. I fitted the Madonna's today! Where are you Norry, I need support !!!!!!

arrow5 · « **Reply #418 on:** June 30, 2007, 03:23:56 PM »

..and a close-up. Weapons of mass destruction !

norry · « **Reply #419 on:** June 30, 2007, 10:48:25 PM »

...Hi Guys...

Check out E-Bay...Item number...180135360170...Newhaven Pusher Tug...

I thought at first this was the First Springer on E-Bay, But the dimensions are slightly larger...

Length 20" X Width 8.5"

...Best Regards...Norry...

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