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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1435 on: May 11, 2009, 08:13:05 PM »
Please, please, please make a video.
 :o :o :o :o :o :o
What ocean will you feel safe to run it on?? Surely not a lake?

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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1436 on: May 11, 2009, 08:20:15 PM »
Just come back from running it at the lake, a couple of issues (needs new tank - bung is leaking, and throttle linkage is too tight). Pictures will be up when Bill gets them on here :-))

Oh and it doesn't dive...
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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1437 on: May 11, 2009, 08:32:49 PM »
OK OK OK  :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
YES IT CAN BE DONE He he he he he {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1438 on: May 11, 2009, 09:22:24 PM »
Quote from: Bill D203 on May 11, 2009, 08:32:49 PM
OK OK OK  :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
YES IT CAN BE DONE He he he he he {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)

Ok...

So thats the shots of the motor ticking over... what about the shots when you opened the throttle?...  {:-{
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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1439 on: May 11, 2009, 09:34:06 PM »
Why go flat out??????
I can do that with my Hydro.
It was half way.
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« Reply #1440 on: May 11, 2009, 10:14:03 PM »
Quote from: toesupwa on May 11, 2009, 09:22:24 PM
Quote from: Bill D203 on May 11, 2009, 08:32:49 PM
OK OK OK  :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
YES IT CAN BE DONE He he he he he {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)

Ok...

So thats the shots of the motor ticking over... what about the shots when you opened the throttle?...  {:-{

It was going far too fast for the shutter to capture it %)
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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1441 on: May 13, 2009, 10:18:48 PM »
I have now got the LED lights working. When I was in Oz my Dig camera packed up. I kept the battery and charger. I am now using it to run the lights. They have been on for 4 hours and no sign of them going dim . Good Stuff ! Recycling can be fun after all!!!
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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1442 on: May 14, 2009, 08:50:30 PM »
Well the Gas Springer has had it second run. For starters it had a go at pushing a 5 gall plastic barrel around. That went well , but on to bigger things!!!! But Wot???
Oh yes our club rescue boat with Andy in it. Well that worked and I got bored with all that pushing stuff around. It was then pointed out to me I could be thrown out the club for hitting the rescue boat. Hum ! Still it proved it can do it.
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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1443 on: May 15, 2009, 03:33:55 PM »
Quote from: Bill D203 on May 14, 2009, 08:50:30 PM
Well the Gas Springer has had it second run. For starters it had a go at pushing a 5 gall plastic barrel around. That went well , but on to bigger things!!!! But Wot???
 

So what is its Bollard pull at full power?... Set it up on a 6ft length of rope and pull against a fixed fishing scale...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bollard_pull
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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1444 on: May 15, 2009, 03:59:48 PM »
He hasn't put a hook on it yet. I think he should because then he will be able to take part in the barge pulling next week...
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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1445 on: May 17, 2009, 02:57:15 PM »
I might be able to use the engine as intended if he is finished put-putting about on idle......the X4 manned Springer was under construction when I took heart attack and ended up in dry-dock for repairs.   Back home now and will be back on-the-job (and working ! ) pretty damn soon :-)).
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« Reply #1446 on: May 17, 2009, 03:14:09 PM »
Quote from: arrow5 on May 17, 2009, 02:57:15 PM
......the X4 manned Springer was under construction when I took heart attack and ended up in dry-dock for repairs.   Back home now and will be back on-the-job (and working ! ) pretty damn soon :-)).

I'm.... I'm.... I'm....  :o

"impressed"?....

We need more details Arrow!...  <*<
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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1447 on: May 17, 2009, 03:38:55 PM »
Hello all, good to hear that Arrow5 is still with us and leading the charge for bigger and better Springers. Mightily impressive and this begs the question "is there enough water in those Scottish lochs frequented by the mad springer maker?

Keep well and let's see more details of the build please.

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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1448 on: May 17, 2009, 04:24:32 PM »

This has GOT to be a camera trick!!!!   :o

 What is going to be it's motive power?

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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1449 on: May 17, 2009, 08:18:29 PM »
...Duncan,,,Wee Johnny says "His Springers not scared of that wee bit of wood"...

Will it be ready for Our Tug-Towing Day in June...

Hope you are feeling better after your wee trip to the Dry Dock...

...Best Regards to you & Yours...Norry & Wee Johnny...

P.S. Wee Harry took delivery of his first tug last week...
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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1450 on: May 18, 2009, 01:16:09 AM »
A Ford V6 engine will do the biz in that boat.
Way to go !!!
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« Reply #1451 on: May 18, 2009, 10:50:18 AM »
Or a big steam engine  {-) {-) {-)
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« Reply #1452 on: May 18, 2009, 11:42:32 AM »
Hi Phil
A James Watt jobby steam engine.  BIG BEAM job.  {-) {-) {-)
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« Reply #1453 on: May 18, 2009, 11:47:37 AM »
Quote from: norry on May 17, 2009, 08:18:29 PM
...Duncan,,,Wee Johnny says "His Springers not scared of that wee bit of wood"...

Will it be ready for Our Tug-Towing Day in June...
Hope you are feeling better after your wee trip to the Dry Dock...

...Best Regards to you & Yours...Norry & Wee Johnny...
P.S. Wee Harry took delivery of his first tug last week...
...about time too, thought you were sheltering him a bit too much.  Right Johnny can drive it then ! Dont think it`ll be ready for Julune, me-no-weel etc plus canny drive for 6 weeks !  Thanks for wishes etc now the biler tubes are cleared it`ll be full steam ahead soon :-)).  Duncan.
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« Reply #1454 on: May 18, 2009, 12:02:40 PM »
Quote from: Martin   -   Forum Admin on May 17, 2009, 04:24:32 PM

This has GOT to be a camera trick!!!!   :o

 What is going to be it's motive power?


No trick photography Martin.  Was hoping to try some electric trolling motor for fresh water and my trusty 5hp Mercury outboard for real push. The latter shoves the 31footer along at 7knots but that is a sensible shaped hull. Maybe get a massive scale tug bow wave on the Springer. It is all "suck it and see"
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« Reply #1455 on: May 18, 2009, 12:16:50 PM »
This will do the job for that "Big Boy"
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« Reply #1456 on: May 18, 2009, 01:05:10 PM »
Yeah sure but fitting a shaft, stuffing box, rudder and assosciated engineering,waterproofing etc. I`m not a boatie. The outboard covers all those things and can be hidden in a well below deck like on the carrier and gives azipod type 360 degree steering.  One easy bolt on and off between carrier and tug.
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« Reply #1457 on: May 21, 2009, 01:17:20 AM »
Now the TBW has re-established its production facilities in California, i have been back working on the Jet unit for the 'J' type.
The prop and its thrust mount are installed as is the nozzle and 'stator' that is behind the prop. The motor mount block has been shaped to fit the tube and the motor fitted to the block.

Yes, it all works when 6v is applied!..  :-))
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« Reply #1458 on: May 28, 2009, 05:24:01 PM »
The tube has been fitted and faired in to the bottom of the hull.. The motor mount has been fitted...

Ive done some planking and started (with some ply and more balsa planks) to get some of the superstructure shape..  ok2
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« Reply #1459 on: May 28, 2009, 05:45:46 PM »
Looking good or should I say F A B?
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« Reply #1460 on: May 28, 2009, 06:27:04 PM »
Quote from: dougal99 on May 28, 2009, 05:45:46 PM
Looking good or should I say F A B?

Was Raquel Welch in Thunderbirds?..  {:-{
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« Reply #1461 on: May 30, 2009, 09:37:21 PM »
   
New Springer Boat Works
   
Hi All

New Springer works on the Clyde at Lancefield Quay, Glasgow.

More to come

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Re: Springer Tugs
« Reply #1462 on: May 31, 2009, 06:07:39 AM »
Whit, nae photies ?
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« Reply #1463 on: May 31, 2009, 08:36:54 AM »
LQ.S.W.

Part 1
          The stuff 
                         DIY store off cuts box    12mm / 1/2"  WBP ply  600mm x 1200mm     ( 50p )   :-))

                         Old Drawers with 10mm ply sides 4mm ply bases       ( Free )   ok2

                         Pine frame off new oven packing              ( Free )   ok2

                         Plans of web site.  ( ink & Paper )   :-) <:(

                         Glue and Paint in cupboard  ( Stock )   :-)

                         Time   ( Very limited )    O0

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    ( photos to follow )
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« Reply #1464 on: May 31, 2009, 10:04:08 PM »
LQ.S.W.

Part 2

      Cutting , Sanding , Glueing ,  plus Motor mounting  ( Motor  540 / 3 = 1 Gear box )

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« Reply #1465 on: June 01, 2009, 06:25:17 PM »
....Hi Timo2...

Will you have one ready for the 14th of June...

If so...you are welcome to bring it over to the 3rd Annual Scottish Tug-In at Richmond Park in Glasgow...Even if its not finished & seaworthy still bring it over & display it beside the other Springers who will be attending...

...Best Regards...Norry...

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« Reply #1466 on: June 02, 2009, 09:48:09 PM »
Toes,
Will the suction from the front of the jet,not suck the front under,as they do like to dive
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« Reply #1467 on: June 02, 2009, 11:48:32 PM »
Quote from: craftysod on June 02, 2009, 09:48:09 PM
Toes,
Will the suction from the front of the jet,not suck the front under,as they do like to dive


Dunno Craftysod...  {:-{

I wont know till the test run.. I'm hoping the 'ram' effect will suck the problem bow wave in to the inlet...

.. you never know, i might have invented the worlds first submarine Springer...  :embarrassed:

Ermm.. hang on, thats not quite right is it..
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« Reply #1468 on: June 04, 2009, 10:49:26 AM »
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« Reply #1469 on: June 05, 2009, 05:38:20 PM »
Part 3 / 4/  & 5  %%

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      The inside / outside / Deck / & Wet    :-))

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