Topic: Can anyone name these motors please (Read 1381 times)

comtoray · « **on:** February 09, 2012, 03:37:15 PM »

Thank you...Ray

Circlip · « **Reply #1 on:** February 09, 2012, 05:06:26 PM »

Port one Herbert, Starboard one Henry

Regards Ian.

Look a bit Johnsonish.

Netleyned · « **Reply #2 on:** February 09, 2012, 05:16:48 PM »

Look a bit Johnsonish.
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Not the fleabay specials though

Ned

HS93 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 09, 2012, 06:42:55 PM »

they look like Graupner ones there is a bit of silver label showing on the right motor, if you undue the two screws holding it down you will see a label. what type of boat is it?

Peter

comtoray · « **Reply #4 on:** February 09, 2012, 06:51:57 PM »

Quote from: HS93 on February 09, 2012, 06:42:55 PM

they look like Graupner ones there is a bit of silver label showing on the right motor, if you undue the two screws holding it down you will see a label. what type of boat is it?

Peter

Thank you Peter

i just took out the screws they are Graupner Speed 700BB Turbo 12V motors cheers is that good/bad/or ok. This is the Tug...Ray

HS93 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 09, 2012, 07:01:59 PM »

Graupner Speed 700BB Turbo 12V motors are normally used in faster boats but the 12v ones are quite mild sail it see how it goes ,check to see how hot they get after a few min and see how long they run with the batteries you have, it should be powerfull plus they are internally fan cooled

Peter

comtoray · « **Reply #6 on:** February 09, 2012, 07:25:57 PM »

Quote from: HS93 on February 09, 2012, 07:01:59 PM

Graupner Speed 700BB Turbo 12V motors are normally used in faster boats but the 12v ones are quite mild sail it see how it goes ,check to see how hot they get after a few min and see how long they run with the batteries you have, it should be powerfull plus they are internally fan cooled

Peter

Thank you Peter will do

nick_75au · « **Reply #7 on:** February 11, 2012, 12:24:58 AM »

What voltage are you running them on? On 6 volts they will be quite good with around 40 mm props as they will have a no load speed of about 5500 RPM

Nick

Norseman · « **Reply #8 on:** February 11, 2012, 02:42:41 AM »

That looks very nice Ray.
Have you got plans to change/add anything?

Dave

comtoray · « **Reply #9 on:** February 11, 2012, 08:13:56 AM »

Quote from: Norseman on February 11, 2012, 02:42:41 AM

That looks very nice Ray.
Have you got plans to change/add anything?

Dave

No i have no plans as it is a tug i bought, can i ask would these motors run ok on a 6 volt battery thank you...Ray

comtoray · « **Reply #10 on:** February 11, 2012, 08:15:36 AM »

Quote from: nick_75au on February 11, 2012, 12:24:58 AM

What voltage are you running them on? On 6 volts they will be quite good with around 40 mm props as they will have a no load speed of about 5500 RPM

Nick

Would 6 volt battery run these motors thanks...Ray

DickyD · « **Reply #11 on:** February 11, 2012, 08:50:02 AM »

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comtoray · « **Reply #12 on:** February 11, 2012, 08:58:38 AM »

Quote from: DickyD on February 11, 2012, 08:50:02 AM

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OK yes i have, but would they if need be run on 6 volts

DickyD · « **Reply #13 on:** February 11, 2012, 09:28:09 AM »

Quote from: nick_75au on February 11, 2012, 12:24:58 AM

What voltage are you running them on? On 6 volts they will be quite good with around 40 mm props as they will have a no load speed of about 5500 RPM

Nick

Seems quite clear to me.

comtoray · « **Reply #14 on:** February 11, 2012, 09:46:03 AM »

Quote from: DickyD on February 11, 2012, 09:28:09 AM

Seems quite clear to me.

nick_75au · « **Reply #15 on:** February 11, 2012, 09:54:18 AM »

LOL

Thanks DickyD

Nick

DickyD · « **Reply #16 on:** February 11, 2012, 10:45:52 AM »

Pleasure mate, that was hard work.

comtoray · « **Reply #17 on:** February 12, 2012, 08:18:57 AM »

Quote from: DickyD on February 11, 2012, 10:45:52 AM

Pleasure mate, that was hard work.

OK Dicky another for you, if i take these motors out, what do you recommend can you point me in the right direction cheers...Ray

Netleyned · « **Reply #18 on:** February 12, 2012, 08:20:45 AM »

Quote from: ribble fox on February 11, 2012, 08:13:56 AM

No i have no plans as it is a tug i bought, can i ask would these motors run ok on a 6 volt battery thank you...Ray

Why change them then?

Ned

catengineman · « **Reply #19 on:** February 12, 2012, 08:27:03 AM »

Just my look on things here ribble fox.
If you take out the motors fitted and then fit larger motors you will also need to alter the mount and alignment and possibly the couplings for those motors (probably) this is a lot of work on a vessel which is in my opinion ready to work and with the motors fitted you should find it will tow very well and to scale as much as the models can be.

As I said just my look on things but it is your model and your decision

comtoray · « **Reply #20 on:** February 12, 2012, 08:32:30 AM »

Quote from: netleyned on February 12, 2012, 08:20:45 AM

Why change them then?

Ned

Only reason i can think of is im being told they will drain the battery fast

comtoray · « **Reply #21 on:** February 12, 2012, 08:35:29 AM »

Quote from: catengineman on February 12, 2012, 08:27:03 AM

Just my look on things here ribble fox.
If you take out the motors fitted and then fit larger motors you will also need to alter the mount and alignment and possibly the couplings for those motors (probably) this is a lot of work on a vessel which is in my opinion ready to work and with the motors fitted you should find it will tow very well and to scale as much as the models can be.

Well i dont think i will be towing i did think about it maybe sometime i will have a go, and thank you for your in put thats the sensible thing if it aint broke dont mend it cheers...Ray

DickyD · « **Reply #22 on:** February 12, 2012, 08:36:30 AM »

Quote from: ribble fox on February 12, 2012, 08:18:57 AM

OK Dicky another for you, if i take these motors out, what do you recommend can you point me in the right direction cheers...Ray

Have you tried this boat on the water yet?

It would be a good idea before you start changing things, it might run very well.

comtoray · « **Reply #23 on:** February 12, 2012, 08:42:46 AM »

Quote from: DickyD on February 12, 2012, 08:36:30 AM

Have you tried this boat on the water yet?

It would be a good idea before you start changing things, it might run very well.

I m off now to try it, hope i dont lose it

at the moment its very very foggy

catengineman · « **Reply #24 on:** February 12, 2012, 08:47:39 AM »

I seem to read that your a little worried over the battery drain, I would see the remedy for this with the purchase of a set of spare LSA batteries and have them charged before you go to the lake.
I have sailed a tug with the same motors for around 5 hours then changed to the second set of batteries and continued
I still take fully charged spare batteries when I sail my other tugs Tito Neri has two 12v SLA and one 6v SLA, the springer has a 6v SLA and the jet sky has a lipo (I can recharge the lipo by using a charger from one of the 12v SLA and also help out with others at the lake if they need a quick boost for their lipo's
Go to the lake and drive your tug hard then see how long your sail times are that way you will see if you have any need to change motors or find a way to increase sail times.
driving hard will give you the shortest run time from your batteries therefore it will be the best footprint to work from.

Netleyned · « **Reply #25 on:** February 12, 2012, 09:07:52 AM »

Quote from: ribble fox on February 12, 2012, 08:42:46 AM

I m off now to try it, hope i dont lose it at the moment its very very foggy

Hope the foghorn works ok

Ned

tugnut · « **Reply #26 on:** February 12, 2012, 12:43:16 PM »

NICE TUG

dont forget to take some pictures of her running

for us

comtoray · « **Reply #27 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:56:01 PM »

My local water was frozen solid, so I took a trip to Fleetwood, and I was pleasantly surprised I thought the Tug handles really well and the battery time was superb
Firstly I tried her on full power but this was far to fast and creating to much waves, the I sailed her at scale speed for a full 45 mins and no hint of the battery slowing down, I called it a day then very content with myself, id just like to ask you guys a technical question, I was using a 12 volt 7amph battery, when fully charged it was showing 13.60 after the 45 mins it was showing 12.65 can anything be gleened from this info, id just like to say thank you for the advice you guys gave me and the patience you showed cheers…Ray
A few pics here
full power

Scale speed

At rest

Netleyned · « **Reply #28 on:** February 12, 2012, 03:30:18 PM »

Is it a new battery?
Fully charged it should show around 14.25V
I use ex fire alarm back up batteries which have to be changed periodically
and when charged show around 13.5V I can live with that as the batteries
are free.
You will be ok at scale speeds then getting an hour plus from a fully charged set
You should be a happy tug skipper today Ray

comtoray · « **Reply #29 on:** February 12, 2012, 04:04:28 PM »

Quote from: netleyned on February 12, 2012, 03:30:18 PM

Is it a new battery?
Fully charged it should show around 14.25V
I use ex fire alarm back up batteries which have to be changed periodically
and when charged show around 13.5V I can live with that as the batteries
are free.
You will be ok at scale speeds then getting an hour plus from a fully charged set
You should be a happy tug skipper today Ray

Thanks Ned the battery came with the tug ive got a new one on order 12 volt 10amph that should be enough for me cheers

Netleyned · « **Reply #30 on:** February 12, 2012, 04:24:01 PM »

Will it be the same size physically?
i.e will it fit in the same place in the tug?

Ned

comtoray · « **Reply #31 on:** February 12, 2012, 04:28:15 PM »

Quote from: netleyned on February 12, 2012, 04:24:01 PM

Will it be the same size physically?
i.e will it fit in the same place in the tug?

Ned

The guy said it will only be the odd millimeter if that so i will have to adapt

Mine 150mm 63mm 94mm
new 10amp 151 x 65 x 94mm

Netleyned · « **Reply #32 on:** February 12, 2012, 04:36:43 PM »

No probs then Ray
Enjoy your good looking and good performing tug.

Ned

comtoray · « **Reply #33 on:** February 12, 2012, 04:41:56 PM »

Quote from: netleyned on February 12, 2012, 04:36:43 PM

No probs then Ray
Enjoy your good looking and good performing tug.

Ned

Norseman · « **Reply #34 on:** February 13, 2012, 03:07:54 AM »

Hi Ray

We were talking about corrosion on another thread and Fleetwood is salt water
so maybe a wash down etc is called for? But maybe already knew that ......

Dave

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