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Re: HMS Thames - an 18th Century two masted square rigger.
« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2012, 06:43:16 PM »

Post  10.

HULL (continued)
Several coats of Primer filler were applied to the hull after the deck was planked, each preceding coat being cut back to the GRP skin until all depressions and high points were obliterated. Rubbing strakes, head timbers and gunwale rails were then fitted in readiness for spraying.

To be continued………….
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Re: HMS Thames - an 18th Century two masted square rigger.
« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2012, 08:31:44 PM »

Post 11.

Hull (continued)
Fittings and other fiddly bits were fabricated  and set aside in readiness for  fitting out. (Photos taken after completion of model)

To be continued………
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Re: HMS Thames - an 18th Century two masted square rigger.
« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2012, 08:54:23 PM »

Post 12.

Hull (continued)
More fitting.

To be continued………
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Re: HMS Thames - an 18th Century two masted square rigger.
« Reply #28 on: May 02, 2012, 09:27:39 PM »

This is excellent, I've been reading up on hull construction and yachts / sailing ships and had no real idea how much is involved until fairly recently! You have great skill, it's a beautiful boat.

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Re: HMS Thames - an 18th Century two masted square rigger.
« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2012, 10:54:42 AM »

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Hull (continued).
More fittings.

To be continued…………………….
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Re: HMS Thames - an 18th Century two masted square rigger.
« Reply #30 on: May 03, 2012, 08:01:40 PM »

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Hull (continued).
Fiddly bits in abundance.

To be continued………………………….
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Re: HMS Thames - an 18th Century two masted square rigger.
« Reply #31 on: May 03, 2012, 08:25:49 PM »

Amen to "fiddly bits in abundance!"
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Re: HMS Thames - an 18th Century two masted square rigger.
« Reply #32 on: May 07, 2012, 04:43:39 PM »

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Hull (continued).
And yet more fiddly bits.

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Re: HMS Thames - an 18th Century two masted square rigger.
« Reply #33 on: May 07, 2012, 04:54:14 PM »

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Hull (continued).
And a few more, but fortunately the last of this 'Hull' batch!.

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Re: HMS Thames - an 18th Century two masted square rigger.
« Reply #34 on: May 07, 2012, 04:56:04 PM »

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Hull (continued).
And a few more, but fortunately the last of this 'Hull' batch!.


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Re: HMS Thames - an 18th Century two masted square rigger.
« Reply #35 on: May 08, 2012, 10:14:49 AM »

Very nice little vessel (I won't say ship as ships have 3 or more masts and are square rigged on all) She will make a smashing Prize for the Black Fleet
So clean and pristine
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Re: HMS Thames - an 18th Century two masted square rigger.
« Reply #36 on: May 08, 2012, 01:41:58 PM »

Very nice little vessel (I won't say ship as ships have 3 or more masts and are square rigged on all) She will make a smashing Prize for the Black Fleet
So clean and pristine
Black Jim

Hope Freebooter's  got sufficient spare hands to form a Prize crew coz you'll need 'em when I  enter your home waters in the near future (when it's warmer!) {-)
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Re: HMS Thames - an 18th Century two masted square rigger.
« Reply #37 on: May 08, 2012, 01:50:21 PM »

Post 17.

HEAD TIMBERS.
The head timbers and anchor cranes were laminated separately then joined together after I was satisfied that they fitted snugly on both bow and poopdeck.

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Re: HMS Thames - an 18th Century two masted square rigger.
« Reply #38 on: May 08, 2012, 02:09:15 PM »

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HEAD TIMBERS (continued).

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Re: HMS Thames - an 18th Century two masted square rigger.
« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2012, 03:42:19 PM »

Post 19.

DECK.
A 3mm ply sub-deck was overlaid with lime stripwood (5mm x 1.5mm) which was then covered with GRP wing tissue. Care was taken to ensure that the planking on the removable hatches was accurately aligned with adjacent deck planks to ensure that hatch openings were well camouflaged. Caulking was  simulated by running a permanent black marker along the plank edges (plank ends were first sealed with clear dope to prevent the black stain ‘creeping’ along the grain).

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Re: HMS Thames - an 18th Century two masted square rigger.
« Reply #40 on: May 14, 2012, 02:45:35 PM »

Post 20.

MASTS & SPARS.
Pine dowel of various diameters was used for all masts and spars. Main and fore masts were stepped in the keel and are removable  should the need arise. Topgallant and topmasts can be lowered to enable the models overall  height to be reduced for easier transportation.

T’gallant and topsail yards can be lowered for reefing and the spritsail can also be easily removed should the need arise..

The jiboom and bowsprit are retractable to provide some ‘give’ in the event of a front end impact.


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Re: HMS Thames - an 18th Century two masted square rigger.
« Reply #41 on: May 14, 2012, 04:09:25 PM »

I just wish the images were larger - they're at the point where squinting isn't helping.

Have you considered putting together a proper article for a modeling-zine like Seaways or Model Boat (they'll want larger images too).  :)

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Re: HMS Thames - an 18th Century two masted square rigger.
« Reply #42 on: May 14, 2012, 04:16:43 PM »

Post 21

RIGGING. Rigging was simplified as much as possible in line with the KISS principle (Keep It Simple Stupid), ‘though there was still far too much to contend with for my liking. The abundance of running rigging, essential if the sails are to controlled effectively  is, unfortunately, the price to pay if one wants to build a working square rigger.

Standing rigging comprised various sizes of ‘Cardoc’ laid cotton bricklayer’s line which was stained black with diluted Indian Ink after first being  boiled then hung to dry under slight tension. A total of 98 deadeyes of differing diameters were  used for the standing rigging whilst a mind and finger  numbing 896  bowlines were tied on the ratlines.

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Re: HMS Thames - an 18th Century two masted square rigger.
« Reply #43 on: May 14, 2012, 05:24:43 PM »

I just wish the images were larger - they're at the point where squinting isn't helping.

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Hi Jerry,
Many thanks for your comments.

Apologies for the diminutive size of most of my photos, the originalsl of which  have been downsized to comply with the maximum 161Kb per post for attachments 'though I've seen much larger photos on some threads - which I'm sure must exceed the 161Kb maximum. I haven't a clue how to achieve a similar result therefor if there is a method which is acceptable to MBM I'd welcome guidance on how to do it.

I'm a luddite when it comes to all things 'computer' as a result of which any guidance offered would need to be in Idiot Speak %). If it helps, I'm running MS '7' and have recently downloaded  'Drop Box'  though I haven't yet tried to use it :D

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Re: HMS Thames - an 18th Century two masted square rigger.
« Reply #44 on: May 14, 2012, 05:36:45 PM »

Typically you click "Add image to post" above the box you type the message in.  This should bring up a "pop-up" box for Postimage.org where you select "Many Images," browse to select the images you want, a couple of times if they're in different folders; mark them as "family safe" unless the figurehead is a bit risque.  The message gets a thumbnail that can be clicked on to open the full sized image, like so....


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Re: HMS Thames - an 18th Century two masted square rigger.
« Reply #45 on: May 14, 2012, 07:05:50 PM »

stunning detail popeye
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Re: HMS Thames - an 18th Century two masted square rigger.
« Reply #46 on: May 14, 2012, 09:57:25 PM »

Post 23.

RIGGING (continued)
Running rigging comprised 0.7mm and 1.0mm braided Dacron which was stained with Ronseal Medium Oak wood stain. Scores of bowsies were needed to facilitate the adjustment of a multitude of halyards, braces, lifts, sheets, pendants  etc..

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Re: HMS Thames - an 18th Century two masted square rigger.
« Reply #47 on: May 14, 2012, 10:16:00 PM »

Typically you click "Add image to post" above the box you type the message in.  This should bring up a "pop-up" box for Postimage.org


Ahoy Jerry,
Eureka -it worked .

Hopefully pics remaining to be attached will be much clearer thanks to your guidance

Many thanks & regards,

Popeye

PS. If anyone wants a clearer version of what's already been submitted let me have the pic number and I'll oblige pronto :-))

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Re: HMS Thames - an 18th Century two masted square rigger.
« Reply #48 on: May 15, 2012, 02:28:29 PM »

Post 23/24.

SAILS.
Sails were made from  lightweight 100% cotton gabardine which was repeatedly boiled , then exposed to the elements for several days before being boiled again in very weak tea (Yorkshire variety – the best there is) until the desired shade of canvas was achieved.

All sails were boltroped. and can be reefed or furled should conditions so warrant.

To be continued……………

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Re: HMS Thames - an 18th Century two masted square rigger.
« Reply #49 on: May 15, 2012, 02:36:06 PM »

Clicking on the images just gets me the Postimage upload page. BTW the test image worked ok

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