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« on: May 30, 2012, 10:56:47 PM »

Hi, is there anyone who has tried and used Mr R C WORLD's engine noise generator? It seems to be a real bargain at under £30 and that includes a speaker! There are quite a few variations on the sound produced,steam as well as diesel, but I would only be interested in the diesel version.
Mick F
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Re: sound generator
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2012, 08:23:10 PM »

Hi Mick, if I was in your shoes I would have no hesitation in buying the P100 from ACTion electronics, I have 3 of these units & they are as good as it gets, Also the level of service that Dave supplies has as far as I can see no equal. I realise that it is an expensive unit but in the end it has been my experience that you only get what you pay for. No, I am not a wealthy Canadian where price does not matter, I find the less you have to spend the more careful you have to be on how you spend your money. I have no connection to ACTion except as a very satisfied customer. Sometimes the products made local right outside our own front door are a much better product than its Asian counterpart. We also have the added benefit of the money spent locally staying in our economy & supplying jobs locally. Sorry Mick for the slight rant but sometimes we need to think with our wallet instead of how cheap is it. That nearly always becomes a race to the bottom, Mick B.
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Re: sound generator
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2012, 08:33:28 PM »

 Mick, yes I agree and I know Action is good stuff! I inherited a p100,but I just cant get it to wok as I think it should  ie engine start-up,and accelerating away.I just cannot get the startup sequence,and it does not seem to accelerate to the sort of speed I thought It would.I plan to take it to the Blackpool show in October,and see if Dave can enlighten me, not being too good at Electronics amongst many other things!
I have just today heard one of these cheapo sound generator,which does actually sound and perform exceptionally well!
 Mick F
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« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2012, 08:34:34 PM »

No link provided, but guessing that this is it -  http://www.mr-rcworld.co.uk/index.php?productID=1014
It would appear to not be oriental, but very local.  I would not expect a high sound volume under continuous conditions just looking at the speaker rating.  It looks like it is intended for use where weight is a limiting factor.
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Re: sound generator
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2012, 08:54:06 PM »

I know Action is good stuff! I inherited a p100, but I just cant get it to wok as I think it should. ie,  engine start-up,and accelerating away. I just cannot get the start up sequence,and it does not seem to accelerate to the sort of speed I thought
 Mick F

Hi Mick F

Did you get the disc with it as well ?  This will enable you to alter the parameters on a computer. There are sound files on the  P100 which can be altered to suit your desire for the correct noises and tones etc.

Ask Dave at ACTion who will help you get the sound you want.  I have two of these and in a spare slot I have made the sound of an ice cream van jingle ???   Love em.

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Re: sound generator
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2012, 09:16:15 PM »

Hi Malcolm?  yes that is the link,sorry I forgot to post it. Yes it is a small and light unit,but it really does perform well,even with the tiny speaker supplied,and not using a soundbox.
 Ken, yes I actually bought the disc off Dave last year at Blackpool, but I cant make head or tail of it! No one I know down here in the depths of deepest Cornwall (at the moment sinking under the weight of the thousands of caravans that arrived here this weekend!)  that uses a p100 so am no wiser in its use! I want to use in my Clyde Lifeboat
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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2012, 09:27:31 PM »

Mick. As you live in Canada, i wonder if youve had any experiance of the Modol Solutions sound units? The spec appears high and the cost probably not much more than Actions if you include postage. Before the brickbats start. May i say that i use actions sound unit and its fine. John.   
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Re: sound generator
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2012, 09:33:22 PM »

Mick I fully agree about the disc, I can't make head or tail of it either so I have left my ones alone the way they were shipped, which might be the smartest move for a computer dummy like me. Mick B.
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Re: sound generator
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2012, 09:15:56 AM »

Strange this. Here is an unedited E-Mail we had last week from a customer who lives in Prague - his first language is not English:

Dear Liz and Dave,
I´ve tried your (now my  :-) ) Noisy Thing and I want to tell you that this Thing is great and
I am enthusiastic! Everything is user friendly, quick setting, easy programming  and all sounds are very realistic. Even my wife does not need to go to some sea for holliday since I installed the seagull  sound with loop :-) .
I am looking forward to install it to my next ship. Thank you!
Regards
Radan

I suppose it depends which part of the manual you choose to read.  8)  Both parts are on the disc and also on our website here http://www.action-electronics.co.uk/art.php. They are not written in Czech or German.

If you are having problems with your P100 then please return it and we will check it over. It may need a software and/or hardware upgrade. If the engine start-up begins as soon as you switch on then you need to adjust the throttle trim lever on the Tx until it needs a "jab" to start it. Note also that some engine sounds don't have start-up sequences - this is all in the manual.

For UK customers Model Sounds Inc's SFX7 is £152 plus 20% VAT delivered, and extra sounds (a micro SD card) come at £16 plus VAT. You cannot program your own sounds nor change those already installed. P100 is £87.50 (incl VAT) plus £3.50 P&P. The CD with all the software and sounds is a fiver, and that includes a USB cable. You do the sums. I make it £212 plays £91 (or £121 with one of our 15W amplifiers). OK - so SFX7 has stereo output, but it's questionable whether this would make any difference in a model boat.

Dave M

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Re: sound generator
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2012, 09:50:52 AM »

Dave,
don't get me wrong, my intention is not to run any of your products down,as I know how good they are, having heard and seen them in fellow modellers models. I have tried getting my stick in the central position,as you suggest, but still it goes straight into run when stick is even slightly moved.It is more than likely my wiring,I must admit.All I asked on the forum was had anyone listened to the very cheap item I listed,and having now heard it myself,I am prepared to spend £30 on it,as it will do all I want for that price, and only needs to be plugged into the receiver,with a Y lead,and to the battery...seemples! for the likes of me.PS I don't want the seagull noise anyway,as there are enough of the damned things around here to listen to
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Re: sound generator
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2012, 12:16:17 PM »

I have tried getting my stick in the central position,as you suggest, but still it goes straight into run when stick is even slightly moved.
Mick F

No offence taken, old thing.

If there is no Engine Start-up file associated with the Engine Run sound then that is exactly what's supposed to happen. Mick. This is explained in the italicized text in the 4th paragraph of Page 10, User Manual Part 1. Check the website for a list of which engine has which files (Page 2). http://www.action-electronics.co.uk/pdfs/P100.pdf. TurboCat is an example of one which doesn't have a start-up.. We have an airstarter sound for this engine but it just won't segue into the run sound - it sounds all wrong. Hopefully we will be able to offer a complete folio of Start/Run/Shut Down sounds for all of the current RNLI fleet types by the end of the year, with some of the older types too.

As regards buying a simpler and cheaper sound unit then feel free - ours is far more sophisticated and would be a waste of money in a small or simple model. Like I always point out at shows, purchase isn't compulsory.

Hold this thought - Maybe there are no gulls in Prague................. ;)

Dave M
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Re: sound generator
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2012, 06:33:17 PM »

Hi Mick F
I have the RC World steam sound in my paddle steamer and it works very well, with plenty of volume even though the unit and speaker are small, the only down side is that there is no increase in speed of the sound with increase in motor revs.
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Re: sound generator
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2012, 08:49:58 PM »

Hi Dave there is nothing wrong with your disc that a reasonably smart person could not figure out but in my case just looking @ a computer screen makes what ever bit of brain I have left leave the room. All your kit is first class & only exceeded by your top notch service, thanks from a very satisfied customer, Mick B.
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Re: sound generator
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2012, 07:42:14 AM »

Hi Dave, figured the disc out, if I can do it ANYBODY can. I am not joking, I am hopeless with computers etc., Had to turn in my cell phone for one I could actually use. You should have seen the salesmans face when I told him I just wanted a phone that made phone calls with a simple on & off switch, his reply "we don't have such a phone" go figure. Mick B.
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« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2012, 09:27:55 AM »

Hi Dave, figured the disc out, if I can do it ANYBODY can. I am not joking, I am hopeless with computers etc., Had to turn in my cell phone for one I could actually use. You should have seen the salesmans face when I told him I just wanted a phone that made phone calls with a simple on & off switch, his reply "we don't have such a phone" go figure. Mick B.

Funny you should mention the phone thing.... we have been having the same problem with my dad.  He needs a new phone because the battery is getting old on his one (plus the fact its got to be at least 10 years old)
He wants a phone that makes calls, sends the occaisonal text with decent sized display and buttons and we found this brand of mobile phones
http://www.dorocanada.com/Our-Products/

Very good range of phoes and easy to use.  They are designed for the more.... ahem... "experienced" user :)
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« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2012, 01:01:49 AM »

Thank you very much Essex, I don't know if they are sold here, but I will check. Its called old age not experience in my book & is a sign that you should be much wiser now. Life was much easier when I was a young lad, the worst that could happen was you forgot to wind the alarm clock that woke you up for school or work . Now there is a clock on the Stove, Microwave, VCR,Cd Player,TV, Satelite Dish,Cell Phone, a designer clock on the wall & of course a watch for every occasion & don't forget the clock in your car, we really are a crazy bunch now. Mick B.
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