Topic: Venetian Vaporetto Build (Read 7056 times)

Mad_Mike · « **Reply #70 on:** July 17, 2012, 04:50:55 PM »

stanchions will repair easily. For extra reinforcment in necessary drill and insert and metal rod between the to broke parts. Not sure about the grafiti though

did you try that ca and bicarb we were talking about?

Im emailing you right now mike

essex2visuvesi · « **Reply #71 on:** July 19, 2012, 01:45:20 PM »

Quote from: Mad_Mike on July 17, 2012, 04:50:55 PM

stanchions will repair easily. For extra reinforcment in necessary drill and insert and metal rod between the to broke parts. Not sure about the grafiti though
did you try that ca and bicarb we were talking about?

Im emailing you right now mike

I did the same thing with my mayflower... works a treat. I glued the broken parts together and then drilled a fine hole through the top and then glued in a length of plastic rod (what I had to hand at the time)

ukmike · « **Reply #72 on:** July 19, 2012, 04:38:14 PM »

Quote from: essex2visuvesi on July 19, 2012, 01:45:20 PM

I did the same thing with my mayflower... works a treat. I glued the broken parts together and then drilled a fine hole through the top and then glued in a length of plastic rod (what I had to hand at the time)

Hi Gary.

Unfortunately the problem is that the week points are where the Laser cut holes, kit, or drilled holes, scratch are for the sliding barriers.

Can't drill a hole down the stanchions with a peg because it would block the holes where the tubes go through.

Will get over the problem no doubt.

Mike.

ukmike · « **Reply #73 on:** July 21, 2012, 03:29:04 PM »

Hello.

Have abandoned the hull sanding/filling for the time being as I have a couple of weeks leave comming up soon so will complete it then.

Decided to complete the electronic destination boards so to that end I have posted some pictures of the almost finished item.

I had to give up on the, 1 PLE. ROMA route as I couldn't faithfully reproduce it at a scale of 1/28.

Have decided on an allthogether easier route, i.e. Linea 1 LIDO and I have to admit to being quite pleased with the result so far.

The photo of the almost finished example was taken in full daylight so no need for dusk conditions to show it.

Mike.

pugwash · « **Reply #74 on:** July 21, 2012, 05:29:04 PM »

The lighting looks excellent Mike

Geoff

Norseman · « **Reply #75 on:** July 21, 2012, 07:41:15 PM »

I think Mike's subcontracted that part to the Liliputians

Dave

RAAArtyGunner · « **Reply #76 on:** July 21, 2012, 10:59:52 PM »

Quote from: ukmike on July 19, 2012, 04:38:14 PM

Hi Gary.

Unfortunately the problem is that the week points are where the Laser cut holes, kit, or drilled holes, scratch are for the sliding barriers.

Can't drill a hole down the stanchions with a peg because it would block the holes where the tubes go through.Will get over the problem no doubt.

Mike.

Is it possible for the holes to be drilled out after 'Peg' repairing???

ukmike · « **Reply #77 on:** July 25, 2012, 03:44:25 PM »

Have made some 1/64th ply doublers to fit either side if the stanchions and extent to the deck level to include the "stub" left below the break.

Should do the trick, I hope!!.

Here are the pair of destination boards after adding filters, again in bright sunlight.

Mike.

deadwood · « **Reply #78 on:** July 26, 2012, 10:21:46 AM »

Hi Mike,

your pair of direction indicators looks cute. Well done!

May I recap your sanding method, which I haven't understood yet?
So, you do apply some pencil scrawls on the (already pre-smoothed?) hull surface, and then you do sand it until all pencil marks have disappeared?
For this to make sense to me, do you take care to only leave scrawls on the bulges and skirt the troughs or dents?
And how does the filler/putty (if necessary at all at this stage) fit in the procedure?

Ralph

ukmike · « **Reply #79 on:** July 26, 2012, 03:57:28 PM »

Quote from: deadwood on July 26, 2012, 10:21:46 AM

Hi Mike,

your pair of direction indicators looks cute. Well done!

May I recap your sanding method, which I haven't understood yet?
So, you do apply some pencil scrawls on the (already pre-smoothed?) hull surface, and then you do sand it until all pencil marks have disappeared?
For this to make sense to me, do you take care to only leave scrawls on the bulges and skirt the troughs or dents?
And how does the filler/putty (if necessary at all at this stage) fit in the procedure?

Ralph

P.M sent

ukmike · « **Reply #80 on:** August 01, 2012, 07:11:09 PM »

Planking and sanding complete now.

Covered the hull with 1/2 oz. glass cloth and 2 coats of epoxy. Cut back to flat with 600 grit paper used wet.

Sprayed with high build grey primer ready for the silvery antifoul and black gloss above the waterline.

Will add some slime green around the waterline and some exposed red oxide. All of the paint is Italian Lifecolor acrylic

Next tho', before all of that will be the prop shaft and associated bracketry which I have yet to fabricate.

The gloss on the grey primer is because it is still wet.

Photo's.

Mike.

rmaddock · « **Reply #81 on:** August 02, 2012, 08:52:48 AM »

It could me trick photography Mike, but it looks like a super finish on that hull

ukmike · « **Reply #82 on:** August 02, 2012, 02:18:39 PM »

Quote from: rmaddock on August 02, 2012, 08:52:48 AM

It could me trick photography Mike, but it looks like a super finish on that hull

The finish is a bit too good really, the full size are very messy and full of dents, rust and flaking paint.

Hopefully I might be able to simulate that with "weathering", although I have never tried it yet so am still figuring out how to do it.

Mike.

sailorboy61 · « **Reply #83 on:** August 02, 2012, 02:23:03 PM »

The speed some of you guys work amazes me, not to mention the quality you achieve. All very impressive, I need to build up my skills base!

ukmike · « **Reply #84 on:** August 05, 2012, 01:18:03 PM »

Running gear completed now.

Not exactly as per full size, but a reasonable representation.

The large skeg is, I believe, intended to prevent damage to the propeller in the shallower parts of the Lagoon.

There is very little information available for these Vaporetti so most of what I'm doing is purely guess work.

Have a look at the pictures and make up your own minds, criticism or advice most welcome.

Mike.

Martin (Admin) · « **Reply #85 on:** August 05, 2012, 02:32:37 PM »

Looks good to me!

Is it made up of brass work?

ukmike · « **Reply #86 on:** August 05, 2012, 03:17:48 PM »

Quote from: Martin - Admin on August 05, 2012, 02:32:37 PM

Looks good to me! Is it made up of brass work?

It is as you have guessed Martin, all Brass, far easier to solder than mild steel.

Mike.

Norseman · « **Reply #87 on:** August 05, 2012, 07:49:54 PM »

It does look good Mike bt I am looking forward to you beating it up a ittle as a working boat

You do crack on with a build matey - I wish I worked just 5% as fast

Dave

Tug---Kenny · « **Reply #88 on:** August 05, 2012, 08:43:19 PM »

What a beautiful piece or work.

I am jealous of your skills. Well done Mike.

ken

Voyager · « **Reply #89 on:** August 05, 2012, 09:20:57 PM »

Most impressive

Can't wait for the next installment

deadwood · « **Reply #90 on:** August 06, 2012, 09:28:57 AM »

As smooth as a baby's bum.

Mad_Mike · « **Reply #91 on:** August 06, 2012, 07:50:28 PM »

looking grand that mike

ukmike · « **Reply #92 on:** August 06, 2012, 08:05:39 PM »

A little more done today

This is the passenger cabin entry, with sliding doors.

Nothing is glued up yet, just offered up the make sure everything fits so the alignment isn't set.

Doors need varnishing some more and the rest has to be painted before gluing.

Mike.

P.C. fixed then Mike, good news that.

Norseman · « **Reply #93 on:** August 06, 2012, 08:08:02 PM »

really looks the part that Mike

Dave

Mad_Mike · « **Reply #94 on:** August 06, 2012, 08:18:27 PM »

nope not fixed yet, on my dad pc at the minute

ukmike · « **Reply #95 on:** August 08, 2012, 08:11:54 PM »

Hello.

Antifouling sprayed on today, the Black from the waterline has to be added.

Have done it this way so that I will be able to weather it easier, scrapes, verdigris, marine growths etc.

Not all of the Vaporetti had silver antifouling, most, that were serviced in Venice by Actv, had the standard Red.

A photo of the mark that I am trying to simulate, also some pictures of the work so far.

I am a little sad because of the overly large access hatches, they are not in keeping with how I would have liked to have done it, but, necessary to access the R.C. gear etc.

Mike.

Mad_Mike · « **Reply #96 on:** August 08, 2012, 11:03:48 PM »

looking good mike, im back online now too

essex2visuvesi · « **Reply #97 on:** August 09, 2012, 09:26:59 AM »

Will you make the sliding doors operational? I have a couple of micro linear servos I pulled out of some beyond repair mini RC planes if you want to try :)

ukmike · « **Reply #98 on:** August 09, 2012, 10:04:10 AM »

Quote from: essex2visuvesi on August 09, 2012, 09:26:59 AM

Will you make the sliding doors operational? I have a couple of micro linear servos I pulled out of some beyond repair mini RC planes if you want to try :)

Morning Gary.

I don't think there is enough room to do that, (excuse No.1), also my limited skills just won't allow it either, (excuse No.2).

At the moment I am wrestling with the complexities of getting an airbrush to do what I want it to, seems these things have minds of their own !!

But many thanks for you very kind offer.

Mike.

Norseman · « **Reply #99 on:** August 09, 2012, 11:54:21 AM »

Keep to the board rules Mike
Excuse No2 should be posted on Humour

Dave

essex2visuvesi · « **Reply #100 on:** August 09, 2012, 12:31:26 PM »

Quote from: Norseman on August 09, 2012, 11:54:21 AM

Keep to the board rules Mike
Excuse No2 should be posted on Humour

Dave

Makes a change to see someone as modest as Mike

ukmike · « **Reply #101 on:** August 09, 2012, 05:34:25 PM »

Hi Guy's

How good is it having 2 weeks leave from work ?

Am doing a little every day now, hence the regular posts.

Have marked and painted the Black topsides down to the waterline using my, (make do and mend), scientific waterline marker, no cheque book modelling here.

This leaves me with silver under the black for later scruffying up, (is that a word ?).

BYW, I did what the consensus recommended, re the sliding door pelmet, wet and dried,dried and wet, until the plastic was smoother than my new grandsons bum.

Sprayed again and no prizes for guessing, exactly the same results, wood grain !!

Will leave it as is now, but, plastic Styrene sheet and I are forever deadly enemies.

A couple of pictures.

Mike.

Mad_Mike · « **Reply #102 on:** August 09, 2012, 09:26:43 PM »

its an unusual reaction your having with this peice of plastic. Are you spraying it or brushing it on. It might not be relevant to your situation but when i was painting my pt the paint went from flat to glossy, it turned out that i decided to change the paint brush half way threw the job and didnt think to clean it first. When you painted the parts that didnt go woody did you change something before you went paint the pelmet? like use a different glue or something?

Dont be put off plasticard its good stuff.

ukmike · « **Reply #103 on:** August 10, 2012, 08:17:27 AM »

Quote from: Mad_Mike on August 09, 2012, 09:26:43 PM

its an unusual reaction your having with this piece of plastic. Are you spraying it or brushing it on. It might not be relevant to your situation but when i was painting my pt the paint went from flat to glossy, it turned out that i decided to change the paint brush half way threw the job and didn't think to clean it first. When you painted the parts that didn't go woody did you change something before you went paint the pelmet? like use a different glue or something?

Dint be put off plastics its good stuff.

Hi Mike.

Can't think of anything that I did differently to that part that could have caused it.

The paint was sprayed on via rattle can but only reacted with the one part.

Going to do some tests on scrap plastic to try and find the cause as I need to be sure it won't have to the other more important parts.

Mike.

ukmike · « **Reply #104 on:** August 10, 2012, 07:27:32 PM »

Almost completed the passender cabin fore and aft bulkheads today.

Just need to add the window frames and glazing.

The rear exit doors are complete but waiting for the varnish to dry.

The long access cover has warped so have had to drill for two small fixing screws just to pull it straight, (bu**er).

Some pictures.

Mike..

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