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New to Boats
« on: January 02, 2013, 09:00:16 pm »

Hello
I am new to RC boats but have built and flown rc planes. I wanted to start with a small boat that my young son could use.
I wanted to build (rather than buy ready made) a cabin style boat about 15 to 20 inches long I would prefer a kit or cnc parts. failing that a plan with instrutions
It does not need to be very detailed more robust. Can you please give me some advice on where to start.
Many Thanks
Phil
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Re: New to Boats
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2013, 09:16:47 pm »

welcome to mayhem hope you enjoy the contact with other like minded people all the best with boating--charlie
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Re: New to Boats
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2013, 09:35:10 pm »

Hi Phil,

 Welcome to the mayhem!

 First of all, what sort of boat type appeals to you?


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Re: New to Boats
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2013, 09:47:10 pm »

I wanted to build a simple model as my first boat such as a cabin cruiser or a classic wood finish speed boat. It does not need to be true scale though
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Re: New to Boats
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2013, 09:48:37 pm »

have a look at vintage model boats,they do cabin cruisers of the size you are looking for all the best slug
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Re: New to Boats
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2013, 10:06:22 pm »

Slug thanks they do look good. that is the sort of thing I am looking for (if not a little more expensive than I hoped but looking around thats about right)
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Re: New to Boats
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2013, 10:55:49 pm »

hi.seen this,i know you wanted to start from scratch but this may be of use. ;)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Model-Boat-ideal-for-restoration-project-/121046809516?pt=UK_ToysGames_
not sure if im allowed to post this here? im sure some one will let me know,hope this helps? regards kurt :-))
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Re: New to Boats
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2013, 11:03:13 pm »

BMR good idea it could save on the initial cost if the price stays low
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Re: New to Boats
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2013, 11:08:19 pm »

Hi there, this may suit you, scroll down to the bottom of the page, it's the only boat there. Welcome to the madness and happy and productive boat building :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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http://www.slecuk.com/catalogue/Kits.html
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Re: New to Boats
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2013, 11:12:53 pm »

BMR good idea it could save on the initial cost if the price stays low
  you could always message the seller and see what he would take for it,i always do sometimes you can get a bargain, oh welcome to the house of fun, regards kurt  black magic racing :-))
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Re: New to Boats
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2013, 11:18:44 pm »

Hi there, this may suit you, scroll down to the bottom of the page, it's the only boat there. Welcome to the madness and happy and productive boat building :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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http://www.slecuk.com/catalogue/Kits.html
Nick I had seen that slec model befor as I use slec for some model plane parts but dismissed it as too large but having another look maybe not.
Thanks for all the replys so for it looks very much like I picked the right place
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Re: New to Boats
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2013, 11:21:15 am »

the sea nymph is looking favorite just because it looks good and is about the right size
I do have a couple of questions
can I buy a power set ( motor,esc and battery)to suit as a set. If not can anyone reccomend a set up
and dumb question time is i drill holes in the hull for the prop shaft and rudder how do you make them water tight. I am guessing for the prop shaft it runs down a tube an the end of the tube will need to be above the water line. Is that correct and is it the same for the rudder?

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« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2013, 11:54:16 am »

On my paula 3 (currently building) the prop shaft sits below the waterline and is inside a tube lined with grease. Then the tube goes through a hole in the hull which is sealed by silicone. The rudder tube is sealed with a rubber waser. Hope this helps.
 
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« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2013, 12:03:03 pm »

the prop shaft that passes through the hull can be sealed with epoxy adhesive, or fibreglass  resin or a multitude of products like stabilit express adhesive  etc....
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Re: New to Boats
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2013, 12:34:06 pm »

thanks again for all the help. I had better get on and order the kit  %%
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Re: New to Boats
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2013, 05:37:43 pm »

well I rang vintage model boat today for an update on the kit I have ordered. It seems the closed for Christmas and do not open until the 21st Jan. It looks like I will have to be patient (I was thinking I would have a large part of the model assembled by then  :(( )
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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2013, 08:01:23 pm »

The kit arrived yesterday and I have most of the frame complete already. I did drop it at one point ans snapped the side window off  >:-o . I am hoping some epoxy and filler will fix it

I need a motor, ESC and batter and need some advice on what to buy

I am at the point where without the above items I can not contine as the size ( of battery mainly) will dictate how I position things
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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2013, 11:27:56 pm »

Hi Phil, I reckon you won't go far wrong with the motor recommended by Vintage Model Boats, a 385, a 7.2 battery pack and an Mtronics 15 amp esc. Any photos of build yet? :-)) :-)) :-))
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« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2013, 08:05:44 pm »

Cheers PONick
I also saw this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X0-wynBWv4 that suggests a brushless set up that I already have (left over from a model plane). The plane esc has no reverse but I may get away with that on this small model
I did make a mistake on the build putting the cabin sides on inside out. they are grooved to bend the wood round the former. with mine I had the grooves inside so the wood curved around the former instead of a fold. Meaning the walls are not straight  {:-{
 
 
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« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2013, 07:21:56 am »

OK silly question time

I am almost ready to add the sides on. I plan to spray paint it so it would be easier if I could spray the hull and add the deck on last but if I do how do I make the join neat.

I know if I add the deck first and overlap the sides this will look neat but will require alot of masking when painting

any suggestions?
 
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« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2013, 09:13:36 am »

Good morning Phil, personally, I would follow the build sequence as set out in the instruction manual, either way ( Deck first or hull first) you are going to have to mask. In order to get a neat edge to the paintwork, you could apply a thin ( 1/16th x 3/16th for example) strip of timber around the edge of the hull a deck level, giving a good edge to finish to.
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Re: New to Boats
« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2013, 04:00:19 pm »

Follow the instrution manual! I had not thought of that :embarrassed:

Well I got a little more done over the weekend. I hope the motor is OK as it is glued in now.
I still am not sure if I can fit the tiller and servo in the very small space at the back of the boat
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« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2013, 10:48:34 pm »

I will offer a few words of advise builling this boat.
Get a piece of flat plywood around 13mm thick place the hull on it draw around the edge of the deck.get a jig saw and cut out the shape.Right then now the clever bit screw both these to the rest of the plywood so you have a former.Now soak the deck edge 1/8x1/8 pices under a HOT WATER tap and gently bend this to the shape of the former,DO IT SLOWLY AND CAREFULLY,as you do this put some nails to hold them in place,do this 4 times so all the deck edging are on top on each other.Now LEAVE these to fully dry,these will be so easy to glue on to the edge of the deck otherwise if you dont do this thenn they will SPLIT.
As regards the tiller Why not do it as Mrs Stav is going to....turn the tiller arm so it is pointing toweards the front of the boat and mount a micro servo in the  side of the rear deck well.Failinng that you will have to do the same as another member on here has done...Look for the topic Mr Tom and you will see how
 
 
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« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2013, 11:01:04 pm »

Stavros sorry but I do not understand your explanation of building a former?
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« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2013, 11:05:13 pm »

I will take pics tomorrow of the former that Mrs stav used to bend the wood for you
 
 
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