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Re: Props/Multiple motor single shaft drive
« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2013, 04:50:32 pm »

If you go for a brass prop its more than the tug is worth.

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Re: Props/Multiple motor single shaft drive
« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2013, 04:57:07 pm »

Fair point indeed Ned... hmmm a cununderum now... I think the thing to do now is get her battery and see how she goes... I do admit I have fallen in love with my little tug...
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Re: Props/Multiple motor single shaft drive
« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2013, 05:02:27 pm »

Sean,
Ned may well be right. It depends on how much you want to develop your model.  Try your new battery first and then work from there.
In respect of prop/nozzle clearance, full-size practice relies on a gap of a few millimetres. Model practice should give a running clearance and no more if you want the best Kort effect.
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Re: Props/Multiple motor single shaft drive
« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2013, 05:07:27 pm »

Thanks Barry and Ned, I will let you know how things get along...  O0

As always thanks for the advice lads, and sorry if I seem a little dim.. Im still finding my sea legs...  ;D
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Re: Props/Multiple motor single shaft drive
« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2013, 05:29:34 pm »

Sean,
Why I asked is if you search the other conversions most keep the motor and prop as this gives more than adequate performance.
If you start putting larger props on a 540 motor you will certainly improve the performance to that of a speedboat and increase the current draw from the motor.
To check the battery put a voltmeter across the battery when running in the bath.

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Re: Props/Multiple motor single shaft drive
« Reply #30 on: February 17, 2013, 10:47:52 pm »

Hi Bob,

I just popped the hull and contents in the bath and the battery voltage is way down on its stated 6.5 volt... I charged it till the charger light turned green, left it ti stabilize for a little while (about an hour or so) popped it into its connector any my voltmeter was ticking (i call it ticking) at 4 volts... then mum shouted at me for my tug being in her newly cleaned bath...  {-) {-) :police: >>:-(

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Re: Props/Multiple motor single shaft drive
« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2013, 10:49:58 pm »


If you start putting larger props on a 540 motor you will certainly improve the performance to that of a speedboat

Tug racing anyone??? (jokes) thanks for the heads up though!
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Re: Props/Multiple motor single shaft drive
« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2013, 11:40:04 pm »









if you increase the blade surface or size  and put a bigger redaction on the current motor it will improve the towing ability , but not effect the free running speed a lot
 IN THE REAL WORLD hull design only lets the boat go so fast then it starts to push water and bury its self , like most tugs  witch are over powered  for there  water line length
BUT hook them up to a dead pull and they will move the earth ( love um )


and it should reduce the batterie drain  (less load on the motor ) you can always free run at half throttle if you have to much POWER  {-)  like i will have to do 60mm 4blade brass prop on 6 .1 red with mfa 540 on 12 v if you hold yer hand  at the bow and not let it go forward at full noise it will bury the stern 









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Re: Props/Multiple motor single shaft drive
« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2013, 12:01:12 am »



if you increase the blade surface or size  and put a bigger redaction on the current motor it will improve the towing ability , but not effect the free running speed a lot


I like that statement, although she lacks the manuverablitiy for true tug towing events, but still I can have fun with her!

 IN THE REAL WORLD hull design only lets the boat go so fast then it starts to push water and bury its self , like most tugs  witch are over powered  for there  water line length


I believe this is why tugs have the high bow, almost like the atlantic bows on some naval vesels?

BUT hook them up to a dead pull and they will move the earth ( love um )


Thats the best bit! Nowt wrong with pulling 4 barges at a time!
and it should reduce the batterie drain  (less load on the motor ) you can always free run at half throttle if you have to much POWER  {-)  like i will have to do 60mm 4blade brass prop on 6 .1 red with mfa 540 on 12 v if you hold yer hand  at the bow and not let it go forward at full noise it will bury the stern 

Is there such a thing as too much power on a Tug? from what I have seen the Dickie is fairly robust, and a couple of well handled examples should easilly cope with even 1:76 scale warships of the biggest proportions... Do you have any photos of the reduction set up please? Eventually I want to build a warship of some kind (probably a battle cruiser type) when I have gained alot more experiance in things model boat... I don't think I will try and bury the stern...

however I still think tug racing could be amusing!  {-) O0

Finally, Shiny parts  ;D

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Re: Props/Multiple motor single shaft drive
« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2013, 12:46:14 am »

HERE IS A PDF of all the motors they make
http://www.mfacomodrills.com/pdfs/gearbox_colour_brochure.pdf

and a pic of mine is on page 9
sorrey about the size of the page (dont know how to enlarge it) theres more spec lower down on the page to






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Re: Props/Multiple motor single shaft drive
« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2013, 05:03:25 am »

Guys....this one had me scratching for the grey cells  :(( until I saw that the FWD motors were actually for the reversable pitch propellers
This electrics/motors are a real credit to the builder  :-)) ...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXMtpmDD06I
Here is another link to the bow thruster setup....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjCFhQzdWhI. ........Derek
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Re: Props/Multiple motor single shaft drive
« Reply #37 on: February 18, 2013, 06:15:25 am »

WOW it amassing what is out there
great stuff
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Re: Props/Multiple motor single shaft drive
« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2013, 06:57:03 am »

here is a bit of info i found about sizing motors /props etc
 http://www.building-model-boats.com/model-boat-motor.html
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Re: Props/Multiple motor single shaft drive
« Reply #39 on: February 18, 2013, 07:23:29 pm »

Thanks all of you for the bits and bobs of advice, guidence and putting up with me and my curiosity!

All the best

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