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Motor problems
« on: March 19, 2013, 01:18:45 pm »

Iam having trouble geting r/c going the rudder servo is ok but the motor wont run can anyone help.
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Re: r/c
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2013, 01:33:41 pm »

We need a bit more information


what type of radio gear is it?
What type of motor?
what type of speed controller
What batteries
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Re: r/c
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2013, 02:25:37 pm »

Hi ,thanks for the reply. motor is a thrustmaster t 4a. controller viper marine 20. control system planet t5. battery powercell rechargeble 12v 7amp  paul.
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Re: r/c
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2013, 02:52:49 pm »

any chance of posting a photo of your current set up , maybe somebody could spot the problem
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Re: r/c
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2013, 04:32:57 pm »

Stupid questions:
1. Is the motor in the right rx sonnection?
2. Is the connection the right way round?
 
Had this problem with another club member.
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Re: r/c
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2013, 05:18:24 pm »

hello dougal99, the connection from the controller to the receiver is as in the manual, the motor is ok because it works straight from the battery, the light on the receiver comes on ok, the rudder servo works but the controller does operate the motor. i hope you can understand all that, you can probably guess i`m new to all this.
thanks for your help,
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Re: r/c
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2013, 05:28:16 pm »

Have you set up the controller as per the instructions.

Do you get the red and green on the controller and press the button on it as soon as you see the red and or green flashing lights?

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Re: r/c
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2013, 06:12:49 pm »

no i dont get the red and green light it just red when i turn on.  paul.
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Re: Motor problems
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2013, 08:15:32 pm »


Your controller is not searching for the set up. It sounds broken.

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Re: Motor problems
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2013, 08:30:31 pm »

to avoid confusion which light are you talking about Paul. There is probably a light on the receiver which will illuminate when locked to the transmitter. There are also two lights on the speed controller, one red one green. These flash for a few seconds when it is turned on. If the little button next to them is pressed whilst they are flashing you can program the speed controller to your set up as per the instruction that should have come with it. If they are not flashing when you turn on the power then you either have a duff controller or no power is reaching it. The latter could be due to the throttle connection to the receiver being upside down. The former is the manufacturer's problem.
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Re: Motor problems
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2013, 08:43:36 pm »

I have had this exact problem with 2 fellow model boat members in the last 2 weeks.
Where I had to re-bind their radio sets for them. Planet T5s
Try re-binding the Tx to the Rx,
 switch on the power to the (receiver)
(without switching on the transmitter)
the light in the receiver will flash, press the binding button,(on the side)
the light will flash faster,
switch on the transmitter, wait for a steady light.
It should be o/k.
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Re: Motor problems
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2013, 08:27:59 am »

Having read back through the posts I would say the TX/Rx are bound if the servo is responding.
A steady red light on the Viper on switch on indicates no signal from the RX to the ESC.
This would indicate that either the ESC lead is in the wrong channel[size=78%] position or the ESC is faulty.[/size]
If the ESC lead was in the wrong way round the BEC would not power the Servo assuming
a separate Rx battery supply is not being used


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Re: Motor problems
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2013, 11:26:32 am »

Transposing the servo and ESC connections into the TX, does the servo respond to the TX stick that was the throttle? 
If not does it respond to any other stick? 
Does the ESC still just show a red light on power-up? 
If so, then the BEC in the ESC is supplying power to the system, but the control electronics in the ESC is not seeing a control signal from the RX.
Since the motor works direct to battery, that should be OK, and it is obviously a brushed type.  I'm not familiar with it, and the only references that turn up on a google are to a company that makes joysticks and suchlike, but I assume that it is within the capabilities of the ESC.
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Re: Motor problems
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2013, 11:29:50 am »

Ah Netleyned, you are wrong there the rudder servo will work if the
Planet Rx is not bound or not, as long as you have power to it.
Why I don,t know but it does.

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Re: Motor problems
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2013, 11:34:58 am »

The servo will twitch at power on but I would not have thought the RX would get a signal to control the servo from a Tx stick
if the TX and RX are not bound.


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Re: Motor problems
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2013, 11:37:53 am »

Ah Netleyned, you are wrong there the rudder servo will work if the
Planet Rx is not bound or not, as long as you have power to it.
Why I don,t know but it does.

john
If true, a real mystery, because if the RX is not bound to its TX, there is no control signal.  Any servo not having a signal is liable to twitch a bit on power up, but no signal, no control.  Hi Ned - you just beat me to it.
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Re: Motor problems
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2013, 11:55:57 am »

Planet receivers are haunted; some do what they're supposed to and others do anything but, but as there is no UK Service Agent then we're stuck with experimenting until we find something that works. I would suggest that if John44 has managed to solve an identical problem by re-binding the Tx and Rx then that's the next thing to try, even if it sounds daft.
You might also try swapping the ESC between channels 2 and 3 and switching from Mode 2 to Mode 1 (See here http://www.modelboats.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=81269)
I think the T4A motor is one of Mobile Brian's.
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Re: Motor problems
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2013, 11:57:56 am »

Didn't have this problem with "Bobs boards"   :-))
 
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Re: Motor problems
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2013, 12:02:49 pm »

Or microswitches...
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« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2013, 12:05:21 pm »

..............or steam...........or rubber bands.............or camphor tablets.............(or ACTion speed controllers?)   8)
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Re: Motor problems
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2013, 12:13:17 pm »

..............or steam...........or rubber bands.............or camphor tablets.............(or ACTion speed controllers?)   8)
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Or Braine Gear


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« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2013, 12:08:09 am »

Nice one Netley, yer didn't find that one on spline chunk. :-))
 
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« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2013, 09:45:43 am »


Or Braine Gear


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How true, but isn't that for steering and not motor control? Let's not confuse the kiddies on the forum, eh?
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« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2013, 11:05:31 am »

They'll think (?) it refers to grey matter.
 
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Re: Motor problems
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2013, 04:50:16 pm »

i`ve got it working! thanks to you all for all your help and all your suggestions.
paul.  :-))
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