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Dave W

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Choosing My First Ship
« on: March 30, 2013, 04:51:03 am »

Greetings to all. My first post here.

I'm new to model boat building and I would appreciate some help choosing my first project.

I have a fair amount of experience building model airplanes (R/C and free flight) and I have scratch built a number of planes, but I know building model airplanes is not the same as building model boats.

I want to build a 1/96 R/C warship. I'm thinking about something small like a WWII destroyer escort. The small size seems like it would be good for a beginner (reduced scope of work and expense) but I'm concerned that such small hulls may be unforgiving and tricky to set up properly. Would a 38-inch long x 4.75-inch beam destroyer escort be a good choice for my first model boat? Would you suggest an alternative?

I wouldn't mind building a plank-on-frame hull. I know I can do that, it looks like fun, and I think it would be good experience if I ever want to scratch-build another ship. (I have my eye on the BaD Ship Models kits.) I would also consider buying a fiberglass hull. Obviously there is a trade off in terms of time/expense. Are there any differences between POF and fiberglass hulls in terms of performance? Is there a certain size or type of model where POF or fiberglass has an advantage over the other?

Thank you in advance for any assistance you are willing to offer me.

Regards,
Dave
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Re: Choosing My First Ship
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2013, 07:11:41 am »

Hi,welcome to the madhouse you dont have to be mad but it helps.I would look at "Deans Marine" site as ron does 1/96 scale warship kits,i know you would like to scratch build,but it would give you and idea of the various warship kits that is about.baloo
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Re: Choosing My First Ship
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2013, 10:01:37 am »

I would google for "BaD ship model kit" first to find past comments about them.  As a first boat, I think a destroyer would be tricky.  If you like detail, at 1:96 there is plenty to add, and for a first try, it could be overwhelming, especially when you consider that as a type, they are very sensitive to ballasting correctly.  A launch might be a better starter proposition - there tends to be more scope for getting away with mistakes and still getting a good result in a sensible timescale.  Don't overlook the possibilities of plastic kits like the Revell corvette - doing something like that helps give you a feel for boats to ease the learning curve into scratch building, which a full wood kit often comes very near to being, with a very good chance of getting it right.
If you really want to go scratch, look out for the small warship plans by Glynn Guest.  They are intended for beginners, but there is usually no limit to the level of detail that the builder can add having done his own research into the particular subject.
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2013, 10:27:50 am »

I would agree with what Malcolm has said.  Having built a number of 1/96th Destroyers/Frigates both scratch on FG commercial hulls and Deans, ballasting and top weight in particular can be tricky.  With scratch building you might unwittingly add to top weight that makes getting a stable sailing level difficult - destroyers are in general long thin sleek hulls that can be unforgiving when making sharp turns.  If its a first attempt at a warship I would suggest as Malcolm has that you might consider picking up a Revell Flower Corvette for £50-60 off Ebay and work on that then move onto a 1/96th Destroyer.     
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Re: Choosing My First Ship
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2013, 06:27:21 pm »

Thank you everyone who responded here and by private message. I value your suggestions and the plans that were given.

At this point I think my biggest challenges will be weight distribution (stability) and complexity of details. I am still leaning towards 1:96 and I've just seen a Deans kit that looks like it might fit the bill, HMS Marvel, an Algerine class minesweeper. I think it's an interesting subject, the proportions look good, and at 30" it probably won't be too overwhelming a project (famous last words!)

I would be interested in what more experienced modellers think of this possibility.

Thanks,
Dave
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2013, 07:18:08 pm »

Algerines at 1/96th have a good beam to length ratio compared to Destroyers of the same scale and period.  So an Algerine in my humble opinion might be a good choice. 
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2013, 07:26:44 pm »

Bear in mind that the Deans kits are largely printed sheet for the decks and superstructure with a selection of castings for details and a good GRP hull, rather than a set of moulded parts as per Revell etc.  They are not weekend kits, persistence is required, but looking around various show exhibits, great results can be got.
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Re: Choosing My First Ship
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2013, 04:32:30 pm »

That's a good point Malcolm. I'm not looking for a quickie. I am used to putting 50-100 hours into a model airplane, so persistence isn't a problem. However, a ship is something else. I definitely need to read up on techniques and consult with experienced model boaters. Fortunately we have a club in SF and I plan to drop in sometime soon.
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